I am a 52 yr old male, 5'08" 158 lbs, in pretty good shape (about 13 % BF). I weightlift 3 x weekly, stretch for a half hr each AM, do some lower back exercises and cardio other 3x weekly. Eat better than I ever have in my life (low carbs, fairly high fat).
Having trouble getting my testosterone to normal levels. Have tried a lot of herbal type supplements - take a good mix of vitamins (A, B, C, D, E, CoQ10, aminos, NAC, Lipoic Acid, Betaine ) Here is my most recent endocrine results - very not pretty (reference ranges in brackets)
AM Cortisol 474 nmol/L (200 - 690)
Estradiol 20 pmol/L (0 - 160 ) Note I recently starting take a fairly large amount of DIM and eating 3 cups cabbage a day - Estradiol used to be around 110 just two months ago.
FSH 3 IU/L (1 - 18 )
LH 4 IU/L (1 - 9)
Progesterone 1.7 nmol/L (0.0 - 3.0)
Prolactin 6 ug/L ( 0 - 15)
Free T3 3.9 pmol/L (3.4 - 6.5)
Free T4 16.9 pmol/L (10.0 - 25.0)
Total Testosterone 13.7 nmol/L (8.0 - 29.0)
TSH 2.88 mIU/L (0.20 - 6.00)
Albumin 37 g/L (33 - 48)
Sex Hormone Binding Globuline 59 (10 - 55) HIGH
Free Testosterone 194 (175 - 700) ( OK for an 80 yr old man but not for me )
So, presently I think my estradiol is too low, my SHBG is going overboard resulting in very low free Testosterone. My blood work (dont want to overwhelm this thread right away ) shows low red blood cell count - consistent with low testosterone. Other than that liver results etc all look pretty good. Symptom wise - no morning wood, can still get a solid and firm erection on appropriate stimulation, lethargy and lack of motivation.
I am currently trying a product called HCGenerate - has significant amount of the active ingredient from Stinging nettle which is supposed to bind / de-activate excess SHBG. In addition to this I am taking 3-4 grams D-Aspartic Acid each morning, as well as some glandulars (orchic tissue, pituatary, liver, adrenal, hypothalmus). Just started this after doing the above blood work, planning to test at one month and two months. If that doesnt work - maybe try Clomid ??
I have historical results for all my tests (blood work etc ) if anyone wants to see them. The prior endocrine results were not as thorough as these. I am still waiting for reverse T3 and bio-available testosterone - but bio-available testosterone will be bad no doubt.
I think I have a similar problem with my testosterone.
I am about 60 and I have a young girlfriend and she is always around and doing something. I can't do everything with her. I am mostly tired and sleepy. I also have no interest on sex. She is sometimes disappointed and not happy. I don't want to lose her. I enjoy every single day with her. If we just had some more sex.
Do you think this I should take some of the stuff you took. And where can I get them?
Hi Jonny, I'm just try to keep this short but have had ED which is low testosterone, so now in recvery, and below you will find my way out of it, what you will read is a post I have on an ED site, titaled HERBS VERSUS DRUGS, HERBS MY CHOICE, so please give it a read and then a 12 week trial.
What is below is a reply I put in to a discussion on side effects to ED drugs.
So if he drugs don’t work or work well but with bad side effects, then go the herbal way, and it works, but you need to go the whole way with them and give them a good try, but remember these things take up to 8 weeks to get to full power, so you need to be on an 12 week trial, but just like drugs its a mix and match affair to find the right mix.
Now for me, I'm in ED recovery and if like me you can get the mix right it will also give you a healthier life style thrown in as a side effect, so that cant be bad, can it.
OK for me, I was given Viagra here in Greece when a was told all that I had was anxiety, its great when your told that, without any examination, and then given Viagra without any tests of any kind, all this I found out later of line, and after this decided that I then needed to find my own way out of ED if I could, the one thing if you start looking is DHEA comes up a lot of the time, so did research into it and asked on a couple of forums for info, for or against.
So I'm now on DHEA 75mgs a day, this is something you really need to read up about if you think its for you and start low to see how it sits with you,
I now take Tribulus, this now backs up my DHEA, I'm now taken Tribulus 2 x 750mgs a day, its a bit like DHEA gives your testosterone and libido a boost, but with no side effects, not that I've had any from DHEA, these I take for 5 days then rest for 2.
DHEA can have some funny side effects with the odd person, so just do some research on it before taken it.
Garlic, I also take Garlic chopped up fine with olive oil and parsley, and do a whole head at a time.
Cayenne, I also take Cayenne, this I put into tomato paste and mix it smooth with olive oil to a heat that suits you, but after a couple of weeks you may find its needs to be increased, both of these I rotate alternate days then change them round the next week and only take for 5 days then 2 days rest, These you need to wash down with water before meals.
Ginger, I also have Ginger in lemon and honey tea (black or green), I fine grate Ginger from the freezer. grate to the size of a large egg put in cup with lemon and micro wave30 secs then add your tea, tastes great,( on pegym they call this erection tea ) Green tea is also a help with ED.
Green tea, I now make up a 2 pint pot with 4 tea bags and add some herbal Tribulus, I use Bulgarian which I can get here in Greece, its best to let this steep overnight and just keep it that way as I use it the next day.
I read that honey and lemon is good for the blood.
Cayenne, Ginger and Garlic are all known herbs for cleaning the blood and given heat down below they all help open the veins up, and to help get blood into the penis, and believe me you will fill this some time later.
On pegym they have what they call the 5Gs it’s all herbal and well worth a look at, just Google the 5Gs, it will take you straight there.
There are lots of other things you can try, Borax see earthclinic for this under ED, Glycine, Nutmeg, but watch this one they say it could be a mind bender, D-Apartate at 3 grams, Ginseng, Gingko Biloba, Vitamin B ( I take Brewers yeast as it’s a complex of all bs) and zinc, but the list is endless.
There does not seem to be many side effects to most herbs, I did get some high blood pressure from Viagra, but now since being on mostly herbs I feel and get some real good erections, and the morning woods are good, I even get woken in the night with some real boners and never had that before.
Look I do hope this may help with some of you guys out there who think that the doctor is the only place to get help, I do some answering on medhelp and webmd the doctor on webmd does not like me given people advice on herbs, but he forgets that all modern drugs come from herbs in the first place, and a lot of new drugs have there roots in herbs, and druggists are still researching roots, herbs and flowers to find new drugs.
One last thing to anybody using low dose aspirin, you must give these up if you take either Ginger or Ginko Biloba, as these two thin your blood.
Good Luck We Need IT
Lots of the above can be Googled by just adding ED on the end of them.
Cayenne can give lots of support to the prostate, also by mixing things with olive oil boosts your omega intake, and by taken 2 table spoonfuls of olive oil a day gives you even a bigger boost of omega, and a big help with your joints.
My DHEA I take 50 mgs first thing in the morning, this I got from a web site on dosage of DHEA, this is because the body’s own DHEA is at its highest then, and so what we take can help boost it.
Yes and don’t forget your vitamin D, just get yourself out in the sun and you can pack your body with it, its free that way, they say you only need 15 minutes a day to get enough of it , me I’m out in it all day long here in Greece, and most of the time naked.
And the last thing I got my wife a **** ring for Xmas, it’s a Hardwear Ice made of glass and works really well, once you get used to wearing it, and can give you some fantastic boners that are really strong.
if interested just google hardwear ice.
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