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Teen Suicidal for real?
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Roger Gould, M.D. - Mental Health, Wellness
Questions posted in the Mental Health forum are being answered by Dr. Roger L. Gould, author of the Mastering Stress and Depression program and affiliated with the UCLA. Department of Psychiatry. Topics covered include anger, attention deficit disorder (ADD) , bipolar disorder , dementia , electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) , learning disabilities, memory, obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) , panic , personality disorders, phobias , post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) , schizophrenia , stress , transitions, and work problems.

Teen Suicidal for real?

by teen's dad, Feb 17, 2001 12:00AM
I have a teenager, girl and the love of my life, I was confronted with the fact that my daughter has tried, in some very weak attecpts, to coment suicide, with Adval by taking the bottel, and by cutting herself.

she has everything, as in materal needs and she says she feels unworthier. she is doing very well in school, but she has no friends, she is a very talented musican and spends many hours playing. she lives with me, her dad but has a great relationship with bith her mother and I, she claims. her mother wants to take her for treatment and I agree if that is what she believes she needs. I on the other hand have little faith in the mental medical health field, I am an attorney, but If that is something she feels may help I will agree to anything.

she is a prefect girl but she does not want to be normal, or maybe she does not think she can be normal. she is concerned about hair on her body, and she is not any hairer that any other child. she keeps saying she does not need or want friends.

her statement to us is she has all of this but she just does not know why she is not happy. my first thought is she just has no idea how hard life is and she is ungratful for what she has and I should let her live like other struggling families live, like i lived and like everyone i know lived. both her mother and i have given her all the love, respect, unbderstand, and care you could give to a child and now i hear she is trying to kill her self because she is not happy, this is very hard for me to feel so this kind of behavor. she has talked to her mother in the past i was just brought into the loop. so want is the best approach, if there is one and why are teens so weak now?

by Roger Gould, M.D., Feb 19, 2001 12:00AM
The best approach is  to get her treatment. It may be a brief treatment, or an intermittent treatment, but treatment is what she needs.  When a teenager makes this kind of attempt it is a cry for help that must be  heeded.

The mind is a very complicated organ. It is not a matter of being weak.  Being unhappy and having a poor body image and self image is part of adolescent development that sometimes gets out of hand, becomes extreme, and puts children like your daughter at risk temporarily until they grow through it and come out the other end.

The best way to help her is to understand her, not judge her, and get her help.
Member Comments (4)

by lumtur4, Feb 19, 2001 12:00AM
give her the game; it will help her win.
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Is it because this is a<a HREF="http://www.mentaldisorder.com/pobox.htm"> great gift idea</a> for adolescents, parents, highschool students, college students, government officials, mental health evaluation experts, mad-doctors, subversives of mal-administration, principals, therapists, patients, card game enthusiasts,<a HREF="http://wwwihm.nlm.nih.gov/ihm/images/A/21/159.jpg"> psychology students</a> , women, men, and leisure happenings?
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</center><br><p>Is it because this game will be one of the best and least expensive things you can do for your mental state, family, and friends during the new millennium instead of submitting to a delusional shrink?
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by elerian, Mar 14, 2001 12:00AM
To: MHForumMD-RG
jeeze, im a 17 year old male and ive suffered from severe depression throughout my teen years. Now im alot happier and secure with the way I look and im not always concerned with what people think about me. I honestly think the last thing she needs now is some akward game. If my parents brought that home to me i would have literally lost it.

      I think what she needs most of all is the support of her friends and family to let her know shes loved reguardless of what she looks like. Its who she is as a person is what matters!
She needs to know that its okay to come home to her family and feel safe from gossip and have someone to really talk to about whats troubling her without feeling uncomfortable in any way! Its amazing how far a hug goes... Honestly I'd try and picture myself in her posistion with the thought that shes somehow "unacceptable" to other people, most importantly her peers(to her anyways). Maybe someone can discuss and help her with a hair removal product to make her feel better about herself. But whats most important is that she feels safe and loved at home in my opinion =)


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by Blk_Katz, Apr 20, 2001 12:00AM
I would take her to a psychiatrist immediatly! I am now 29, but when I was 17, I started to become depressed. I told my mom, and she didn't believe me for a long time, so I began to get sicker. I had everthing a teenager could want, I was a senior, I had a boyfriend, I was the lead in the play, I was in the dance team, I had some great friends, a car, and all I wanted to do was die.
  Then I started to cut myself, little ones at first. No one saw them, because I did them high up my arms where no one would look. Then more and more, and they got worse and worse. Finally my mom took me to a psychiatrist and he put me on prozac, but that made me feel worse and I snuck into my mom's medicine cabinet and took all of her pills. They found me in the mouring without a blood pressure, the parametic worked on me, and I recieved a shot directly into my heart. I was in the ICU for a week and for the first 3 days they did not know for sure if I would live.
  I went to a psychiatric hospital, and put on Lithium and got better.
   The point of this story is your daughter is going to die if you do not take care of her. Who cares if she has everything, she needs help and if you love her, you have to take care of her. Take her to a psychiatrist and a psychologist, both are great to have. Please before it is too late.
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