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Migraines and LED lighting

Our offices are being gutted and rebuilt.  Currently I have a private office where daily I turn out the flourescent lighting and use lamp lighting.  In the remodeling, there is discussion of eliminating all private offices for more open space.  This means, more than likely I will be in a cubicle, and unable to control the lighting.  They are likely going to install LED lighting (supposedly more natural "white" lighting).  On many websites today, there is talk of LED lighting being so much better than flourescent lighting for migraine sufferers.  Does anyone have experience to share on whether they have worked in LED lighting as a migraine sufferer?  Did it effect your migraines negatively or positively?  I read one article about how some sufferers felt that the LED lighting in recently updated stores caused headaches.  The only experience I have is when I pass a car with LED headlights, they seem much brighter and can instantly hurt my head. However that direct beam of light may be different than overhead lighting.  Please share your experience?
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The medical evidence for this is so sketchy, yet the physics evidence is so abundantly clear in favor of this condition actually occurring.  The best reason for this conumdrum is similar to the reporting of pain.  One persons' tickle is another persons' excruciating pain.  Measuring pain objectively is getting better thankfully.

My education and work background prepared me to understand the physics of this problem while my marriage to a brain aneurysm suvivior for more than 17 years allowed me to study the anatomical effects of electromagnetic fields EMF's (of which light is generated by) on the nervous system.  

You have correctly targeted one of your triggers but there may be more simply due to the proliferation of EMF's in the work environment.  In my opinion, lamp lights generally are safer because it uses an analog form of power to generate light (think of ocean waves.)  CFL's and LED's use a digital form (1's and 0's for quick on/off to stand in for the wave form) to generate light.  Digital is no doubt more efficient in light output cost.  The problem with it is that it is also more efficient at concentrating EMF's.

In most folks, EMF's don't generate pain (it's a long story to explain this part) but that dosen't mean they are unaffected just not pained by it.  

Have you ever sustained a head injury, even if it was relatively minor?  If so, is the migraine on the same side?  Are the migraines daily or just come and go?
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The medical evidence for this is so sketchy, yet the physics evidence is so abundantly clear in favor of this condition actually occurring.  The best reason for this conumdrum is similar to the reporting of pain.  One persons' tickle is another persons' excruciating pain.  Measuring pain objectively is getting better thankfully.

My education and work background prepared me to understand the physics of this problem while my marriage to a brain aneurysm suvivior for more than 17 years allowed me to study the anatomical effects of electromagnetic fields EMF's (of which light is generated by) on the nervous system.  

You have correctly targeted one of your triggers but there may be more simply due to the proliferation of EMF's in the work environment.  In my opinion, lamp lights generally are safer because it uses an analog form of power to generate light (think of ocean waves.)  CFL's and LED's use a digital form (1's and 0's for quick on/off to stand in for the wave form) to generate light.  Digital is no doubt more efficient in light output cost.  The problem with it is that it is also more efficient at concentrating EMF's.

In most folks, EMF's don't generate pain (it's a long story to explain this part) but that dosen't mean they are unaffected just not pained by it.  

Have you ever sustained a head injury, even if it was relatively minor?  If so, is the migraine on the same side?  Are the migraines daily or just come and go?
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I live where I don't have a choice in the matter of whether to live with fluorescent lighting in the apartment fixtures or not.  And, the light fixtures all use "special" shaped light bulbs, rather than the screw in type.  I find that I experience more nausea associated with silent migraines under fluorescent lighting.  And, unlike incandescent light bulbs, which the powers to be decided for us and are being phased out, fluorescent light bulbs have a really nasty habit of flashing when they're ready to burn out at the end of their life.  I prefer the incandescent light bulbs, because they don't have this annoying flashing that really makes me sick.  I always get migraines when the fluorescent bulbs are ready to burn out.  Where I live, the kitchen has those standard long fluorescent tubes, like you find in office buildings.  I can't change those ones myself.  This means that when they start flickering, I have to go without light in the kitchen for however long the "management" feels like making me wait for their maintenance people to change these tubes.  I'm not happy that the powers to be decided for me which lights I have to live under.
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To answer your question, yes, I experienced a head injury when I was a child.  I had a collision with another bicyclist, which landed me on my head on concrete.  The result was a severe concussion and fractured skull.  I don't remember the days that followed while in the hospital.  The first memory was of waking up in my parents' bed, watching my mother walk across the room to me, and instantly being sick.
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This lighting issue is a problem for those with Chiari Malformation as well,,, we are all affected by florescent lights and I already know just seeing the new  LED types are not much better.....I do not understand how the gov feels it is their job to oversee what type of lights we use .....especially when so many are affected by florescent lights already.....and the disposal of these new twisty lights is not easy as they have mercury in them....how is unsafe for the environment better for all?....
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First let me thank the Moderator for the "Best Answer" award.  It made my day!

If you haven't seen a Neurologist in some time, it might be a good time to do so now.  The reason for this is that your Doctor may be able to provide medical guidance and help with respect to making accomodations in the workplace.  Finding a good Neurologist starts with you being able to make a good case of your medical history especially as it relates to the head injury and explaining how this relates to your current headaches and the work environment.

For your own knowledge and to rule out EMF's as a headache trigger you should consider trying following:  Use the upcoming holidays to take another type of holiday (at least a few days straight) from electrical products use including shutting down your computer, monitor, and printers (all of them),  if you watch TV try to minimize it and don't forget to turnoff the digital converter box by pulling the plug then you know it is truly off.  Keep in mind other electrical appliances like microwave ovens to electric alarm clocks give off huge amounts of EMF's Use this time to catch up on some reading or other things around the house.  I realize it's a tough thing to do but do try this.  If you live in a apartment or condo you won't have any control over what your neighbors use and unfortunately the above won't work so well because the EMF's especially the magnetic portion penetrate just about everything.

That brings me to why I originally ask about the head injury question.  Head injuries change the anatomical structure of the skull bone.  In a perfectly formed skull, it is uniquely designed to prevent electromagnetic fields from interacting with our central nervous system - the brain.  We know this because medical specialist that provide transcranial magnetic stimulation have an exceedingly difficult time generating a safe electrical dose to the brain.  In a head injury patient, a fracture or concussion changes the bone anatomy allowing ingress of EMF's thereby triggering the migraine storm.

Thanks for allowing me to provide some information aout this.  Please give the suggestion a try and see if this helps you.  I also be honored to hear your results.  

    
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Would EMF's also contribute to the pain associated with Fibromyalgia?
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Sorry, my research hasn't shown any connection.  What would be important to make this connection would be to establish a cause and effect relationship.

That's what allowed me to accurately discuss how the EMF's can trigger a migraine.  Without reproducible proof of this connection I wouldn't even consider making such a claim.
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That's alright.  I will do my best to limit EMF's in my apartment.  Like you said, there isn't a lot I can really do, since I have no control over what appliances and computer equipment the neighbors themselves use.  I also can't do anything about which direction the two main electrical lines go either.  I need to see if I can at least get rid of more of these migraines.
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