Bleeding never stops

Hi all, I'm new to here. Glad I found this forum but I don't find similar cases like me. Basically I was dignosed with ectopic pregnancy, but I have different symtoms (symptoms) like others. Below is my timeline:

12/15/2010 - TTC

12/27/2010 - Period (but afterwards I realised it's not a true period)

1/72011 - Went for vacation with hubby and planned to TTC

1/8/2011 - spotting

1/12/2011 - Back from vacation without sex at all, and still spotting

1/14 - First time seeing gyn, urine test positive, beta 643, nothing found in u/s, still spotting

1/17 - Second beta just to confirm if it is growing, result was 710, yes it is growing, nothing found under ultrasound, still spotting

1/19 - Third beta to check any ectopic possibility, result was 776, not good, had metho, start bleeding

1/24 - First time checking beta after metho, result was 805, gyno said it's fine when growing slightly, bleeding with clots

1/29 - Sac came out, it was sized like an egg! Still bleeding but with less clots

1/31 - Second beta after metho, result 633, it's coming down, still bleeding with less clots

2/17 - Third beta after metho, result 188, it's like a relif! Slightly heavier than spotting in dark red

2/21 - Had my first Chinese medical treatment, had acupunture shrink the uterus and push the "old blood" away. Also received 5 days Chinese medicine: 2 days of clearing blood, 3 days of building new blood. However, still bleeding after the treatment.

2/28 -Second Chinese medical treatment, received another 5 days medicine, all related to strengthen blood, kidney, liver and uterus. Still bleeding

3/1 - Heavier bleeding in bright red

3/2 - Heavy bleeding in bright red, just like an ordinary period, and I had all symtoms (symptoms) like breast pain, abdomin (abdomen) pain, insomia, emotion changes

3/3 - Heavy bleeding in bright red (strange is I usually have so much big clots in period, but this time with very little and smaller clots)

3/4 - Still bleeding, but coming down

3/5 - Still bleeding, colour getting darker

3/6 - Still bleeding, colour getting darker

3/7 - Fourth beta draw, result 2, yippie! But still bleeding. Also had u/s that blood/fluid still in uterus and abdomin (abdomen). Woke up with no blood, but bleeding after few hours working.

3/8 - Woke up with no blood, but bleeding after few hours working, less amount than 3/7

3/9 - Woke up with no blood, start having brown mucus and very very small amount of blood

3/10 - Woke up with no blood, still with brown mucus but no red thing coming out

3/11 - No blood still, but a brown clot came out in evening

3/12 - Brown mucus

3/13 - Brown mucus, and I started to take Chinese medicine again

3/14 - Red mucus, NO, red returns!!!

3/15-17 - Red mucus and blood alike came out.

Thanks for reading this long timeline. As you may be realised my question is, why am I bleeding, for so so long?! I asked my gyn yesterday, she said this on and off bleeding is very normal, because hormone isn't stable, and it will be unstable for a while. She has no comment about the Chinese medication which may interfere a bit (no research if it is a good way or bad way). I have no doubt on this but I just can't see the end of sight. I wish I can be like of you, having shorter bleeding days. Please please stop.....

Does anyone experience the same? I feel so alone as most of the metho treats took one or two months to heal with regular ovulation, while mine is not ending....

[webby09]

This is basically the same exact scenario that I am going through- so alike it scared me a little. I even had the heavy bleeding in which you described, and sometimes there is blood other times there isn't - brownish discharge as well.  Unfortunately, where I live I cannot get into see anyone until the 20th of June, so I am here on my own to figure out all of this. I haven't done any Chinese Medication either...

Just wondering did your gyn say anything about ovulation during this time frame?

[sweetpie01]

I am experiencing something similar to yours. I got pregnant in November and was almost eight weeks when i went for my first gyno check up to make sure i was pregnant. they confirmed and had me come in 2 weeks later to run some tests. when i went in the second time i was supposed to be almost ten weeks, my doctor was trying to find the heart beat and wasnt able to so we tried the ultrasound and still nothing. she then decided to measure and see where i was at. my baby was measuring at 6.5 weeks instead of the 10 weeks it was supposed to be according to her. she had me come and see her 5 days later to see if maybe my days were wrong or if the baby had stopped growing.

when i went in five days later she confirmed that i was going to have a miscarriage since the baby was still measuring the same. it just so happened that i started miscarrying that afternoon which was very light bleeding nothing too extravegant. then next day on the other hand was like a running sink with clots. i was in the bathroom every 20 minutes, i didnt know when to get up off the toilet. it was like huge clots were being released. i went thru this for like 3 days and then it got lighter. i bled for about 2 weeks straight and then it stopped for about 2 days. the third day i started bleeding again it was more like spotting since it wasnt heavy. i had that straight thru so begining of february 2011 all the way to now.

i had a couple of lucky days where it stopped for 3 days and came back. the thing is i went to the docs office in mid feb he prescribed me to take medroxyprogesterone to elevate my hormones since they were still a little higher than usual which is common for women who have miscarried. after taking the meds i got a period again and that was when i had the 3 lucky days in the begining of marsh where i was blood free.

it started again and i went to see the doc he did blood work on me and found that my prolactin levels were a little higher than what they should be so i have to go back in to months to get that checked. meanwhile i am still spotting everyday. and i am having the same thing where it comes and goes. i was told by my gyno that its because your hormones arent stable and where they are suppoosed to be so it might take some time to get them back in their place.

Sorry for the story!

[v110617]

I'm sorry to hear your situation. Waiting is the worst thing in the world. I hope time flies quicker. But are you able to call your gyno for some answers?

I'm happy to update my status so that you can compare with yours. Just remember you are not alone, we all have similar issues.

My gyno just said that the hormone is unstable after mtx healing. Since my beta should come to zero by now, the hormone will tell the ovaries I'm non-pregnant, and it should start ovulation. And one more thing, it seems the blood is cleared -- no red fluid has been discovered for 2 days, so I hope it is over.

[v110617]

I'm sorry to hear your story, at least you know you are not alone, I experienced the same. But from November to March, this is way too long. Have you had your beta drawn recently?

When my beta was down to 2, my doctor seemed not so concerned about me. But 2 is a negative indication so as long as it's going down, the bleeding should be coming to the end.

There's no red or brown fluid or mucus be discovered in last 2 days, so I hope my issue is really coming to the end. Doc gave me some ovulation testing paper and I was testing that since saturday. There was a very thin and light line showed on the paper. Not sure if this should call positive or negative, but it looks progressing.

[webby09]

Thanks for all the support ladies- very much appreciated!
Here is a quick time line I went through:

Pregnant Dec 25th (I believe)

Jan 26 (Wednesday)  First Ultrasound showing 6w 3d
- I started spotting that night, and I knew then I was losing it.

By Jan 29 (Saturday) Bleeding started to pick up, from old to bright red blood.

January 30 (Sunday) Insane cramping starting in the a.m. Sac came out around 3:30 p.m.
- I bled for about 11days after, with clots and all, slowed down and stopped completely.

February 23- bleeding started again (I thought it was my period) it lasted 7 days and was exactly the same as my real period - I was excited!

From March 2- 19 I had spotting, some day's not so much, other days lots...

Currently March 20 to current date March 22 no spotting - finally!

So all and all from the time I actually lost the baby it took 48 days for the bleeding to actually stop. That it, if what I thought was a period was actually part of the mc process.

My Gyn is booked until June - that is the closest time I can get into to see them. I called and asked if he would talk on the phone and he wouldn't.  I am healing well, and I don't want to jinx it but no bleeding for the past 3 days!!!

I am curious to know about the period I thought I had, was it a period? or just a continuation of the mc?

Thanks everyone, it is so nice to have such great support from everyone on this site!

[v110617]

Hello there,

Looks your timeline is really similar to mine, and seems the bloody days is over.

The period alike bleeding could be a true peroid as your bleeding was completely stopped on Feb 11, it takes 14 days to ovulate and it matches your timeline. If you had your beta drawn after Feb 11 and read zero, it was very likely a true period. Just treat it as a true one.

My bloody days is over as well after 71 days of non-stop bleeding. This is TOO EXCITING! No more red or brown discharge but clear and a little milky! I have done some ovulation test at home in past few days, the line is getting more solid and that means my LH is rising. Perhaps you can get a box of those in drug store to check your ovulation status. Once you ovulate, you will expect a true period. I'm so looking forward to it!

[Ally_C]

Hey guys I also had a m/c recently but the bleeding didn't last very long after the sac came out (a few days). Have you all had another ultrasound to confirm that all the embryonic tissue is out? I've heard that if there's tissue still stuck in there it can trick your body into thinking it's still pregnant, and/or keep on hemorrhaging. You'll also want to make sure you see the placenta...it's a bit of an icky surprise if you aren't expecting it  :P  Good luck!

To v110617: if your ob/gyn is booked til June it sounds like you'd better look for another. That's total crap!

[webby09]

Hello,

I did not have any other blood work after the mc- my doctor felt it wasn't necessary and at that time I didn't want to deal with any other pain- I wanted it all to go away, so I opted not to push for blood work. In  hindsight I wish I would have, but I can't do anything about that now, but move forward.

I did take a hpt about a week after I had the mc and it came back negative, so I figured everything would be good. My husband and I were sexually active during my ovulation time (or what I was guessing to be was, based on what I thought was my period) (that's a bit confusing). So now I am waiting for my AF to arrive. I am having a few symptoms, tender breasts, little bit of cramping, but i don't entirely know what that is result of. I'm too afraid to take another hpt- even though I should.

Are you planning to ttc soon, or are you going to wait a few months?

[webby09]

I did have a second ultrasound and it was confirmed that everything had passed.I live in a small city (60, 000) there are only 3 Gyn's and believe it or not, the one I am seeing has the first opening. I had already booked the appointment last November, just get checked out- because I had already had one mc and this coming June was the date I was given - nice!

I am hoping that it is all finished and that I can move forward now!

[v110617]

Ally_C: I'm gonna have an ultra sound early April, just an overall checking if the blood in abdomin (abdomen) has been absorbed, also I'll request for an HSG as it was an ectopic pregnancy. So it's important to invest where the problem was. Gyn said it was very likely to be in the follopian tube, but we didn't have any proof.

Webby_09: My mind is ready to ttc but my Chinese medical practioner advised me to wait for 3 cycles before trying again because it was an ectopic pregnancy. Well yes I should have better preparation and take supplements before trying, or will end up with another one. I'm 32 turning 33 in June and I cannot afford with another ectopic pregnancy. It is the most horrible thing in the world! Will see gyn early April to follow up and have HSG, make sure there's no blockage. What's your plan now? Are you gonna TTC soon?

[webby09]

I'm not quite sure what I'm going to end up doing. My mind tells me to wait, but my heart is saying otherwise. I lost my first last May( 2010), I ended up having a D&C in June and it took until September to get my cycles back on track, and eventually I was pregnant again in December. With that being said, I have a funny feeling it is going to take till  about August to conceive again. -Roughly 6 months or so.  

I'm only 25, so I have a bit of time. My husband and I are going on our 4th year of marriage come June and come December we'll have been together for 10 years. So we are really ready for the next step, I feel like its long over due and we both would love to have a baby.

I still feel very torn right now, I want to make sure my body is ready to hold another pregnancy, even though I feel like it is. I don't want to have to take on another loss, it took me a while to get over this one- and its still really hard. One of my good friends is due the beginning of April, her and I both had our first mc together last year, and we were pregnant again together and I ended up losing it, so seeing her baby will be very hard on me.

I know this sounds a little weird, but I feel happy, excited and hopeful when we are trying to conceive again it helps me to move forward with the loss and look forward to the future. For me its closure, knowing that the mc is done and I could possibly start a new pregnancy. I guess its what keeps me going!

Thank you by the way, it is so nice to have someone else to talk to other than my husband!

[sweetpie01]

I don't know where i'm standing with this. I was supposed to get my period this week and it never came. I'm starting to think like there is something wrong but my docs arent catching it. I'm still bleeding. I think it's a little odd to still be bleeding since my miscarriage. i miscarried on January 14 and it hasnt stopped since except for the maybe 9 or 10 days in the end of february beginning march. I dont know what to expect anymore. After having the non stop bleeding from jan 14 thru feb 14 my doctor put me on medroxyprogesterone and that made me get my period and made the bleeding stop for about 9 days. then all of a sudden here it is again! it's like a surprise every morning waking up and seeing that it has continued. I dont know exactly whats going on. the other day i kind of had a little more bleeding than the normal spotting i get and passed 2 clots but it wasnt like a normal period. has anyone ever gone through something like this! my doc did blood work in february which came back stating that my prolactin levels were a little higher than usual but i still dont think that could be responsible for the bleeding!

[v110617]

I have difficulties to talk to my husband some time, he just doesn't understand a woman's body! And my gyn doesn't speak a word and earning a fortune from me! I love to discuss with my Chinese medical doctor, she explains well.

Any comments from your gyn about the difficult pregnancy? I've read an article in a Chinese magazine (I'm a Chinese btw) of how to have quality eggs and sperms and I'd like to share with you.

First of all, liver. It responsibles for detoxification. You absorb with what you eat. There are many food and medicine nowadays have different kinds of hormone. It is basically unavoidable but the liver works really hard to break down the toxin and release it. Do more exercise and try to avoid pills to reduce the liver's pressure.

Second, kidney. The health of egg and sperms are depending on the kidney, that means if the kidney is healthy, the egg and sperm are healthy. The magazine didn't state why though. I understand a healthy kidney can produce better sperms as they both the urinary system. But for the woman's side, I guess the kidney and the ovaries are very close to each other.

The thickness of internal wall of the ovaries will get thinner by each miscarriage and aging, and so the quality of the egg will reduce by 6%. It encourges to take more folic acid, calcium and iron to replenish the loss. It also suggests some Chinese medicine which so call to have a miracle effect. If there is a Chinese medical centre in your area, have a chat with them see if a different treatment helps.

Women should avoid cold/icy drinks too as it makes the internal wall of the uterus to turn thinner, it is not an ideal "home" for the fetus.

Last but not least, it encourages to use condom instead of birth control pills. pills affect the hormone.

These are just said in a magazine based on Chinese medical knowledge. Afterall just one message, we need to have a healthy body. Relax and be well prepared for the baby. Good luck~

[v110617]

I can understand how hard it is for 2 bleeding months, I had exactly 71 bleeding days.

Have you checked your beta? As far as I understand it can carry on unless beta turns zero. While my beta was 2, I was still bleeding. I asked my gyn if I should receive some special treatment to stop the bleeding may be a progesterone shot, she disagreed about this thought. She said the hormone will be unstable for a while even beta is negative. It continued for another 10 days then it stopped bleeding. As long as it is a negative reading, it shouldn't be too far to go.

You may ask to ultra sound the uterus to see how much blood left and the position of the blood.

Meanwhile, avoid cold drinks and food, will bleed more.

[webby09]

Thank you for your input, I have been taking prenatal vitamins with folic acid and calcium tablets, but I will need to pick up some iron pills.

I've never actually been to see my Gyn. For my first loss my doctor said they wouldn't take me until I had another so I have never been able to ask any questions or get any answer, I know hard to believe.

Thanks again for all your help, keep me up-dated if things change for you!

Good luck to you as well!

[webby09]

I would suggest having another ultrasound as well, I miscarried Jan 30 and just last week the bleeding finally stopped. It could be that your body is still in the process of healing and the bleeding could be its way of getting rid of all the excess.

If it does continue for much longer I would push for more tests- just to be on the safe side!

[sweetpie01]

Well better news! Hopefully when i wake up tomorrow morning i'll be good but i noticed today that it got alot lighter, I'm hoping that when i wake up tomorrow morning it'll be gone. I want to be back to normal because these last three months have been killing me! I'm trying not to get my hopes up because last time it tappered down it started back up again! I'm wishing hopefully this wish will come true. well i decided to give my doc another couple of days if i still see the spotting/light bleeding by Monday, i'm going to call to make an appointment for tuesday. i need to get this resolved. I can't handle the stress anymore.

[sweetpie01]

And i woke up to it again! I can't understand whats going on. I really think that monday i'm goign to try to talk to my doctor and if i see he still tells me to wait and see what happens, i'm going to switch doctors. I can't wait around any longer. I feel like there is something wrong and the doctors dont have the time to actually see what it is. This has been a stressful year so far. I didnt think it was going to be like this!

[v110617]

That's not good. It's being too long. Check your beta and ultra sound tomorrow.

[webby09]

I agree, I'd make an appointment today to have everything looked at. I'm not sure about birth control, but my doctor had suggested it to me to get my cycles regular again. Maybe ask him/her about it?

[sweetpie01]

Somewhat good news, A couple of days ago it all stopped. I'm guessing i'm finally back to normal. Hopefully! I'm guessing that maybe it was my hormone levels trying to get back to normal on their own. It finally stopped. i feel like i'm back to me. I hope i get the chance to get prego again. I kind of have that feeling like i'm not going to get the full experience just because i was so happy the first time around. A friend of mine was prego the same time as me she was three weeks sooner than me. She just delivered her baby on tuesday, of course a preemie, but she wasnt due until july, so it did make things a little awkward for me being there and thinking i could have been over 5 months right now getting prepared myself. I dont know how long it will take me to get that opportunity again! hopefully soon!

[v110617]

Congrats it finally stopped! Observe for 2 more days if no more strange things coming out, then it's really stopped. Did you see gyn?

Since you are just recovered, don't rush to try now, wait for 1 or 2 cycles, make sure everything is normal, then it's good to try again.

If you have a chance to get some ovulation testing paper, get some of those and do home tests. If it gives a positive ovulation result, that means your body is really coming back to normal.

[webby09]

I'm glad to hear that sweetpie01, I thought mine was complete as well- bleeding stopped for a week then the day my period was due the spotting started back up? I went to the doctor checked all levels everything is good. I had two episodes of a brief period as well, literally it came I wiped (sorry for the detail) and it left back to spotting. I am so confused, I feel helpless.

@ V110617, did any of this type of thing occur with you? Bleeding stopped completely for 8 days, then came back at time of period? I'm lost !

Thanks again ladies!

[sweetpie01]

thats what happened to me, i'm happy that it stopped. I feel like me again (?before i got pregnant). a question for you v110617, you mean the ovulation tests right or is there something else. i was going to pick a box of the ovulation kits today but realized that i felt like i was back to normal. I know i'm ovulating right now cause i have the regular symptoms. i didnt see my gyn. last time when i talked to him 2 weeks ago he told me that it could have been that it was taking my body a while to get back on to its normal cycle on its own thats probably why it finally stoppes. i even started doing some exercise the other day to see if it made a difference, it might have helped. I'm just curious now, with me finally getting back on track, am i still fertile enough to get pregnant right away. this was my first and i'm trying to keep track of everything to make sure i dont go through this again!

[v110617]

Similar to your case.

I was bleeding for 71 continuous days. It was actually becoming very light at the end of feb which I thought was ending within days, but it turned heavy on 2 March and it became like a normal period in the next 5 days. I thought that was really it, it should be ending, but it wasn't until another 10 days. Those 10 days was a nightmare! It wasn't a heavy flow, but discharging with brown and red mucus (sorry tmi).

It was indeed confusing. I was told by my Chinese medical doctor that that could be a true period. May be it was just words to comfort. Anyways, it's ended 2 weeks ago. I'm expecting a true period to arrive on 5 April.

[v110617]

The first ovulation test was done on 19 March, the day when it actually stopped bleeding. The test showed a fainted line. I kept trying again until 22 Mar, it showed thicker line and slightly darker. My doctor told me to treat it as a positive result.

I dunno how ovulation feels like, not even from the past 20 years. But the result tells me that I should expect af on 5 April. We'll see.

[v110617]

Hi ladies, I found a website which is about expecting period after miscarriage. Hope it is useful. http://www.*************.info/waitingforaf.htm

[webby09]

Thank you for the info, I'm going on day 63, and like I said before on and off again, today it was very brown and a few small clots have been passing. My mom is a nurse and she thinks I may have to have a D&C to get everything cleared up. I don't see my Dr. till next week, but I am hoping he can give me some pills to maybe inflict my period to come. Did your specialist say anything about having old blood and very tiny clots at this stage? I am concerned now, since I really don't want to have another D&C.

[webby09]

I tried to log onto the site as well- but there are those small stars that seem to be replacing letters and words- not allowing me to log on.

[v110617]

Strange it pops up with stars... Please replace those stars by typing "pregnancyloss" then it should show the page.

I'm confused now.... I thought you've recovered, it comes back again?! Would it be a period? There are a few scenarios describe in the website that I suggested. Hope there is one matching your case.

My Chinese medical specialist said if the old blood doesn't release at all, fresh/new blood will not be produced. In the last 10 days, there was no clots coming out, but blood and mucus. To be honest, I dunno how to tell if the blood is old or new, just the pulse told her it was old.

As you said your doctor has checked everything and level was good, there shouldn't be much to worry about.

[webby09]

Thanks a bunch, it helped a lot! Yes, I thought it had finished, it went away for 8 days then returned and has been here since (during the time my period was supposed to be here, but it is not a period, just spotting).

I am sure it will work it self out, thanks again for all your help : )

[v110617]

You welcome.

I'm happy to say, period arrived, and it is a true period. Hope you'll expect yours soon.

[sweetpie01]

Mine arrived two days ago and it has been a heavier than usual one. probably because i was on and off again for the last couple of months. It finally started tappering down two more days left and i'll be free. this would technically be my second cycle. I'm hoping i can ttc. I really want a baby, all i see around me are moms with newborns. It makes me think of what i could of had but dont have anymore. But i do believe things happen for a reason so hopefully god has better plans for me. Someone told me that your very fertile right after you have had a miscarriage or delivered but it's been over 3 months for me. I don't know, i'm i hope they are right!

[webby09]

That's great news!
I just finished mine on Wednesday (it finally arrived) But now the spotting has started again- I am currently waiting for my dr. to call me back and figure this thing out! I am thinking he might put me on bc :( I hope not, but I have to get this all figured out. I too want to have kids so bad- one of my close friends just had a baby on Monday. It's hard to deal with since her and I both had our first mc's together- she was the only one who understood and now she has a baby and I feel very alone.
I'm almost scared now to ttc again, it seems this process has drawn on for so long that I really don't want to go through it all again!