Oh these Eyes......

    Hello Friends,
Been having some blurry vision and a bit of double vision for a few days along w/ some of the Peripheral vision coming and going (hope that meakes since).

   Called Optho, told me to come in in about an hour. Went in Once again my pressures are very high.
A normal IOP (IntrOcular Pressure is around 12 - 21 mm/HG...Mine was a 26 and 27 in left eye and a 25 and 27 in right eye (I may have that backwards) and mild to moderate inflamation (inflammation).  Calling this once again Uveitis ?

    one of the meds (drops) he wanted to put me on he said that he could not because it would cause an increase in pressure as a side affect...So he said he has to treat me w/ another for the inflamation (inflammation)...Hoping that in turn it will bring some of the pressure down so that he can then rx me the other med and take both.

      i goback to see him on Tuesday. He was not able to dilate my eyes because of the pressure being high?? He said it could make it higher??  i thought the major reason the IOP would be high would be from Glaucoma........He took the time to expalin to me that in AutoImmune Disease such as MS it can cause things to go hay - wire at anytime for no apparent reason.........he said that he in fact ws certain that this was nothing to do w/ Glaucoma.
     DOn't know if anyone remembers but I had the same thing happen to me and was treated w/ Roids about....oh i can't remember exactly but around 6 or 7 months ago? Then before that about........8 yrs before thqt(which was the first time it had happened)

      So any thoughts? Has this happened to any of you? Or any one you know w/ MS?
my Brain is just wondering what the H*** is going on and why......i mean I guess I know why from what he said.....
Thanks for letting me pick your brains  :)

~Tonya

[tonyad]

  
   Doing the Bump...Thanks....

[monkeygirl888]

Hi there

Im not sure about your eye pressure results or about them not giving you the drops to take a closer look into your eye. I have similar problem,  keep getting very blurred painful vision, especially in my right eye. Lost a lot of sight in it suddenly which is why was taken in to hospital. The found my optic nerve to be swollen and I am having to return on Wednesday to see if swelling has subsided and if has left any lasting damage. Colour acuity isn't so good in right eye and causing me some trouble still. They discussed putting me on steroids but then decided to wait until they ***** me after 3 weeks.
I have also had raised pressure behind the eye when admitted to hospital on several occasions but it seems to subside very quickly. My doc said optic nerve was almost certainly down to MS but other doc said it would have remained at it's worst state for longer if it was. From what I have experienced and read these annoying fluctuations do come and go. Some unfortunately stick like glue but the rest can fly in to our bodies, stay a while and we hope and pray they will leave us as quickly as possible.
I have been given drops to get better views at back of eye on numerous occasions especially last year when was seeing opthamologist every two weeks. I was suffering terrible bouts of double vision, blurring, swelling and drooping of the eye and they nearly always gave mr dops to expand the eye and they never said they couldn't use drops as due to raising IOP pressure etc. Not sure whether your doctor is correct about drops, maybe has to be careful with glaucoma. My doc puts drops in almost every time to dilate eye before he even starts consultation.
Lets hope someone else can help you. Sorry not been much help. Just have lot of eye issues sounding similar. Good luck and hope you get it sorted very soon.
Kim

[supermum_ms]

I know nothing about this, was interested enough to go looking for something useful for you to read, found this about Uveitis that you might find helpful......

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1209123-overview

I did notice Uveitis is connected to a lot of diseases, MS being just one of many lol

Cheers........JJ

[slightlybroken]

I'm not sure if I can be much help, but I do know that with steroid use, eye pressure can elevate. Usually after stopping steroids, the pressure will return to normal levels, unless the use of steroids was prolonged for months or years, or you have an underlying condition. Even asthma patients can have increase in IOP from steroid use from meds.

I've had off and on high IOP all of my life. My mother does too. It seems to run in the family. It will sometimes drop to normal levels, but will climb also..(I'm unDX as well). My mother has Sjogrens, and there is glaucoma in the family, so there is a whole list of things against me on this one.

I could see how MS could be related to high IOP, especially with steroid use. MS works so differently in people, causing different SX, but I could see how it  could wreak havoc in the body, especially the eyes, and mess with the pressures in the eyes.

Take Care

[Sailorsong]

I have had blurred and double vision for years now. My eye DR. has me on Travatan drops to reduce my IOP which is not Glaucoma level, but elevated ( I think it was about the level you stated). My eye DR. put me on those drops to keep me from getting to the Glaucoma state and also because of some bulging of the optic nerve.

I also use Natual Tears drop several times a day due to my chronic dry eyes from Sjogren's. So far I have had my vision checked several times over the last 6 months and it has varied from 20/20 to 20/40.  

Dennis

[PastorDan]

My "new" prism lens seems to have helped significantly with my double vision, but my eyes still tire very easily.  Also, I seem to have more trouble with certain visual tasks at different times and in different situations.

For instance, I went to breakfast this morning about 12 miles away, and had no trouble at all reading road signs, etc.  I also had no trouble reading the guest check that the waitress brought me when I was finished, text messages from my wife, etc.

However, I have noticed in recent weeks that I have trouble in the grocery store, switching back and forth between reading labels, my shopping list, and other close text, vs. seeing farther away, like halfway down the aisle of the store, where a close friend could be standing and I wouldn't recognize them.  Scenes are too blurry.

Still, docs have looked at my eyes over & over, & don't claim to have found anything.  I don't understand, except that the last eye doc I saw said that he was taught in school that the typical case of optic neuritis means that the patient can't see anything and neither can the doctor.  I really can't say that this is ON, but I know it often hurts (I thank God for gabapentin), and I know that my eyes have declined more in the past two years than in the 51 years before, even if their reading tests don't reflect that.

Might ask the neuro to do a new VEP when I see him on 5/6.  I still don't have any confidence in the lab that did the prior set.

[tonyad]

   Yes,. the drops he has me on now are NSAIDS because he can not give me any
Steroidal drops because of fear that it could raise pressure. He is trying this approach first.   Then, on Tuesday at return visit, he is hoping to be able to add Roids and a Beta Blocker drop...?.

    thanks for the link...I did scan over it and YES! Sarcoid is one of the things that could also cause the Uveitis as well as MS......

    Not sure if any of you recall but I was dx w/ Sarcoidosis through lymph node biopsy about 15 yeasr or so ago.  Not in Lungs! only in lymph nodes....Never had to be treated (no roids or anything) and that was the end of it. A repeat CT about a year later was clear.

     I DID see my PCP today (as they wanted me to come in when I called to inform them about Optho appt....Ordered  ACE (just in case), SED Rate, CBC, T3, T4, Reverse T3, and something else......They are good and cautious...I like them....They are a keeper  :)

      She did confirm that I had Trigeminal Neuralgia, as well as increased balance issues....obvious when I'm standing there talking and then Over, Over, Over, to the right I go.....Another Kudos for "Diva Grace" (my Cane) as she helped me out once again.......Lol

      So to sum it up.....I am not on and have not been on any Roids, Yesterday givin NSAID drops (4 times daily) until Tiesday when he can take a better peak, oh ya, PCP did give me script for Meclyzine (did I speell that right?) as well as some pain meds for the TN.

      Dennis: So, you also have a history of IOP but certainly not related to Galucoma right?
      Slighly Broken:   You also have the same issues up and down IOP...Hmmm this is kinda weird......

        I hope that we can all fingd answeres and whichever of us here anything or ideas
or info from our Optho lets make sure and let each other know so we can share this info w/ our Optho...Sound like a deal????
Have a Safe weeken to everyone :)
~Tonya

      Thanks once again Friends.....
~Tonya

[Quixotic1]

Pastor Dan - That eye doctor skipped the critical lectures on ON for the Tiddly Winks tournament across the hall.

Tonya - yes, uveitis and iritis are also seen in MS, just less frequently than ON.

Quix

[jensequitur]

Tonya, how are the eyes doing?

I've had more than one bout of optic neuritis, and now my eyes are having problems with double vision.  Really sharp double vision - sometimes it looks like one of those Magic Eye pictures, or a kaleidoscope.  I can turn my head and the image turns around itself.  I've also noticed that the vision in my right eye has gotten really bad - blurry and unreliable.

One of the most noticeable things about ON is the color change from one eye to the other.  My right eye is washed out at times, and sometimes it looks like the left eye is really over-saturated.  Somebody's been messing with the knobs, I guess.

I don't know if it was related to the optic nerve, or to simple brain damage, but I had a real problem with moving the eyes back and forth.  Trying to look at things to my right or left would give me a really disquieting feeling, like something wasn't right.  Flickering light did the same thing.  I still get this when I'm feeling symptomatic.

When I told this to my neuro, he told me to wear a hat.  So not much help there!