I imagine that if you had an abscess like me, they could see this on a x-ray or you would run a fever like I did. The only thing I can think of that can cause tooth lose without symptoms (SOMETIMES) is periodontal disease. Most of the time when you have this disease you'll get symptoms like bleeding gum, inflamed and swollen gums, receding gum lines etc... But sometimes there can be no symptoms at all, from what I've been told. On x-ray, however, they would be able to see that the bone that holds the teeth has receded. This is the whole reason why the teeth are lost. The bone recedes, letting go of the tooth, thus causing the tooth to be loose. The tooth then can allow bacteria and plaque to enter below the gum line, causing abscesses, pain, sensitivity, etc...
I was just guessing on why you could be loosing teeth, but I would ask your dentist, straight up for answers as to why. I thought too, that maybe my abscess & tooth roots is so close to the cranial nerves, that it might have brought me into a full fledged attack of TN, but this is just a hypothesis on my account. I think any kind of irritation could do so, for someone already pron to this condition.
Me again, I have too say.... well I already said I am afraid of dentist.. and I might have made this clearer...it's just I don't want to except it. I have gum disease and my teeth are falling out and getting loose, they have slowly gotten worse over the past 10 years. I used to go to my favorite dentist,
when my kids were young, I took them and went myself... I went every 3 - 4 months for cleaning as my gums were bad and I had to keep up with the cleaning. I did this for quite a few years, then out of the blue about 1998, my teeth started to get loose. My dentist at the time didn't understand why because I went and kept my teeth in good shape.
She told me to ask my Dr...who said he didn't know...and I left it at that... the dentist then had to pull a few teeth.. then a few years later she had too pull more.. I never looked into why? My teeth just got loose and then sore and had to come out.. so this is part of my problem.. but the pain I have had lately on and off is not the same pain as I had previously with loose teeth.. so now the pictures changes eh... sorry I should have explained...but ?? Its confusing..
so this is why he wants me to take more teeth out..they are loose too.
now I feel really bad for not saying more.. bye for now
wobbly
It sounds like the dentist wants to try pulling some teeth and "see if that helps things." WHAT???!!!!!!!!
Some tell this yahoo that TN is 1000 times more common in people with MS than in the regular population. What is he thinking?
OMG.... RUN!!!
SB - Your dentist is making some sense. I'm sure I have at least one extraction coming up. Pray, please pray hard...and I will for you.
Wobbly - there is nothing wrong with taking a couple of narcotic tabs to see if the pain dulls a little. It might help. Standard pain relievers are less likely to help with horrendous, but, brief, jabs of severe pain, but they can often dull continuous pain a little. You won't know until you try.
Quix
It looks like you and I are in the same boat again. I have to have 2 teeth pulled out tomorrow. I got in because I started to run a fever, and had my husband call early this morning. I didn't want to wait until Monday with this pain.
According to the dentist, I had a bad filling, which lead to an abscess tooth. The infection spread to another tooth, and now it's working it's way to another. For some reason I didn't feel it until it was already too late to save the 2 teeth. I'm getting them pulled ASAP because it could lead to bone lose, or other bad issues, and I don't need that right now.
He also said that some of my pain, the pain in my tongue,throat, upper jaw, ear, would not be from the infection. He said it could be from TN. He wants me to come back after the extractions for a cleaning, but the other doctor will go over the TN issues and the other things with me. I'm just hoping that this pain lets up soon. My percocets did nothing for me. At the most, maybe take the edge off, but when it was at it's worse, it was nothing.
I hope you feel better soon.
I'm with Pastor Dan on this one. It's not like you can put teeth back once they are pulled. What's going to go next it this doesn't work? It seems to me that many dentists today will do anything to save a natural tooth rather than yank one out. This dentist sounds like he's willing to remove good teeth without much hope that it will even alleviate your pain. (I'm scratching my head.)
Mary
Thank for in advise, I'm drinkin water as I type... I have been through T3s before and they were horrible..
take care
wobbly
I'm thinking, valuable as I consider the teeth I have remaining, I'd get a second opinion before anybody yanked any of 'em outta there. Maybe that's just me.
You described the T3 reaction as I'd have expected. Makes you sleepy, so if it still hurts, you don't notice t as much and can get a night's rest. Codeine (like most opiates) will slow down the intestines, though, so drink lots of fluids, eat fruit, etc.
I went to the dentist, he checked my mouth and shook his head? He said it doesn't seem to be from my teeth, but I should get a few taken out?? that's when I shook my head?
he said from my description of my pain and the teeth sensitivity, he can't say for sure what is going on. He would like to take out a couple of teeth that are doing nothing in the back of my mouth.
he said I don't have any at the bottom and the ones he wants to take out are at the top right side...he feels they might be bothering my sinuses and that MIGHT be the cause of Right side face pain?
He said they are doing anything, so I can take them out of the picture and if it helps Great...if not, then it's probably TN...
so now, I have to get some teeth taken out.. I HATE NEEDLES..
and teeth pulled out... OH MY..
ummmmm
wobbly
thanks for the replies, this morning my mouth is feeling alot better, not completely gone, just feeling numb... my ear is still abit sore and jaw when I move my jaw.. ???
I'll wait abit and see how I feel in a few hours, then call the scarey dentist if its not better, or feels worse.. I am so nervous of dentists.
thanks for answering and the T3 helped me fall asleep.. I needed to take two of them..
take care
wobbly
I'm taking gabapentin for TN which seems to work. I don't know about codeine because I've never have done well using codeine for any kind of pain. I hope the pain subsides, and your dentist figures out what the problem is.
Deb
I've read that narcotics don't help very much for TN pain. That said, I've taken a percoset on occasion (left over from surgery) when the pain was really bad and it did seem to help (or maybe make me care less??) But I don't know if it would work long term.
Good luck finding out. My first sx of TN (other than the years of tingling in my cheek) was all my teeth hurting.
Stephanie
I had a problem last summer with severe face jaw pain, the odds were either TMJ, or TN. And yes, vicodine was what was perscribed. It helped a lot, maybe 50%. It ended up being a displaced disc in the jaw joint. The pain was all over the right side of my face, and couldn't hardly open my mouth, so it was quite severe. The dx'd it as TMD. So I know how you feel. Also try cold or hot compresses if you can tolerate them. Hope you feel better soon. Take 2, and call your dentist in the morning.
Maggie