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looks like MS?
Hello, About a month ago I came back from Japan (I live in france). 3 days later I started to develop "muscle" (I am not sure if it is right to call it muscle) pain all over the body. It was painful to sit down, to lift up my hands, to lift up my child etc. A day or two later I started to have paresthesia in my both hands - in the fingers. The most are affected the thumb, index finger and middle finger. Symmetrically on both hands.
Then I had a fever for 4-5 days up to 38.5C. Sometimes a bit of runny nose and cough. During those days the numbness started in my feet (symmetrically) and later on I had numbness around my coccyx. My penis is somewhat numb too.
In my face the nerves (or muscles) are very sensitive when I touch them, on both sides. No head ache or numbness.
So, my symptoms were quite stable, but the muscle pain gradually goes off, now, after 5 weeks, I am capable of doing much more than at the beginning.
But yesterday evening I started to go to toilet (urinate) quite often. I could not sleep well because I had a feeling I wanted to urinate every hour. But when I try to urinate, only small amount comes out. I have a sensation between my legs and penis that looks like I want to urinate.
I read in internet that this is due to spinal cord MS. I am terrified, but apparently there is nothing I can do to treat it.
What would be your opinion?
Then I had a fever for 4-5 days up to 38.5C. Sometimes a bit of runny nose and cough. During those days the numbness started in my feet (symmetrically) and later on I had numbness around my coccyx. My penis is somewhat numb too.
In my face the nerves (or muscles) are very sensitive when I touch them, on both sides. No head ache or numbness.
So, my symptoms were quite stable, but the muscle pain gradually goes off, now, after 5 weeks, I am capable of doing much more than at the beginning.
But yesterday evening I started to go to toilet (urinate) quite often. I could not sleep well because I had a feeling I wanted to urinate every hour. But when I try to urinate, only small amount comes out. I have a sensation between my legs and penis that looks like I want to urinate.
I read in internet that this is due to spinal cord MS. I am terrified, but apparently there is nothing I can do to treat it.
What would be your opinion?
You have repeatedly posted similar questions in various forums. I think the answers you were given were great.
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Hi there, Please do not think I am "in anyway" trying to offend or be disrespectful of your medical concerns!
What you describe doesn't sound like MS to me at all, specifically because your sx's multiplied and developed too rapidly to be typical for MS, symmetrical sx's, fever, cough and runny nose are inconsistent. I looked through your post history, trying to understand if there was any possibly related prior history, that could also of lead you to thinking it was MS.
From the perspective of an outsider looking in, (which may or may not be correct!) you seem to have previously focused anxiety about a different condition and diagnostic evidence and repeated reassurances did little to relieve your fears and concerns for a period of time. So I am bringing to your attention the 'possibility' that there 'maybe' an underlying anxiety issue that 'may' need to be considered as an alternate medical possibility and addressed if it is proven to be correct.
Please consider appropriate assessment if anxiety is a problematic issue for you, if not then please disregard my bringing the possibility to your attention, as I've said I do mean no disrespect!
Sincerely.........JJ
What you describe doesn't sound like MS to me at all, specifically because your sx's multiplied and developed too rapidly to be typical for MS, symmetrical sx's, fever, cough and runny nose are inconsistent. I looked through your post history, trying to understand if there was any possibly related prior history, that could also of lead you to thinking it was MS.
From the perspective of an outsider looking in, (which may or may not be correct!) you seem to have previously focused anxiety about a different condition and diagnostic evidence and repeated reassurances did little to relieve your fears and concerns for a period of time. So I am bringing to your attention the 'possibility' that there 'maybe' an underlying anxiety issue that 'may' need to be considered as an alternate medical possibility and addressed if it is proven to be correct.
Please consider appropriate assessment if anxiety is a problematic issue for you, if not then please disregard my bringing the possibility to your attention, as I've said I do mean no disrespect!
Sincerely.........JJ
Hi Yin - hyper-signal may mean hyper intensity. These are lesions that appear on MRI images. If they found lesions it might suggest MS.
MS is a clinical diagnosis. The clinical diagnosis is supported by MRI, blood tests, lumbar puncture and other lab tests.
You have now consulted two neurologists, who said MS was not likely, and had a clean MRI. Do you still think you have MS? I'm not trying to be short with you, but it might be a smoother path to relief of you symptoms to pursue other options.
Kyle
MS is a clinical diagnosis. The clinical diagnosis is supported by MRI, blood tests, lumbar puncture and other lab tests.
You have now consulted two neurologists, who said MS was not likely, and had a clean MRI. Do you still think you have MS? I'm not trying to be short with you, but it might be a smoother path to relief of you symptoms to pursue other options.
Kyle
Hello,
Today I had MRI scan of the spine. As far I understand the summary of the results (written in French), they scanned with T1, T2 and T2star technique.
They found I think a couple of protruding disks in my neck, but the doctor said it was a little.
Then i understand that with T2 and T2star they found no places with hyper-signal. I understand it as no liaisons, but I am not familiar with this wording.
Do you know what it means - hyper-sugnal?
That is basically it.
Today I had MRI scan of the spine. As far I understand the summary of the results (written in French), they scanned with T1, T2 and T2star technique.
They found I think a couple of protruding disks in my neck, but the doctor said it was a little.
Then i understand that with T2 and T2star they found no places with hyper-signal. I understand it as no liaisons, but I am not familiar with this wording.
Do you know what it means - hyper-sugnal?
That is basically it.
Thank you very much for you reply. I consulted a neurologist (but before I started to develop urinate problem) and he told me that the MS is not the first diagnosis he would think about based on my examination and symptoms. However he prescribed MRI of the spine cord. I am scared but I what can i do...
I also consulted a neurologist online, explained my symptoms, and his opinion that it seems unlikely to be MS. I do not know, maybe they all are trying to keep me calm.
I keep yo posted.
Thanks again.
I also consulted a neurologist online, explained my symptoms, and his opinion that it seems unlikely to be MS. I do not know, maybe they all are trying to keep me calm.
I keep yo posted.
Thanks again.
Also, if by some chance you do have MS, there are indeed a number of ways to treat it. No cures, but lots of treatment to make life better and to keep disability to a minimum. So don't rely on your interpretation of the internet :-)
That will only upset you.
ess
That will only upset you.
ess
Hello, and welcome to our forum.
The internet is a great resource for lots of things, but researching health conditions has its perils. Because MS affects the central nervous system, which is a big place, there are dozens of possible symptoms, some more likely than others, but still dozens. So when people google their combination of symptoms, MS very often is a match. This can be very misleading.
For several reasons, it's unlikely that you have MS. First, MS can't involve 'all over' symptoms, because each symptom or problem is caused by a specific lesion in either the brain or the spinal cord. It is inconceivable that lesions would appear simultaneously everywhere in the CNS.
Also, fever is not associated with MS, and there is no infection involved. And problems which are extremely symmetrical, such as those you describe in your hands, rarely happen early in the MS process. Really, the only symptoms you describe that are worrisome in terms of MS are the numbness and the problems with urination.
So what I suggest you do first is get a complete check-up. Blood testing could help identify what is going on with you. If necessary see a neurologist too, to find out in particular whether something is impinging on your spinal cord, or whether something else neurological might be wrong. It's way too soon to be zeroing in on MS and to be worrying yourself to the point of terror. Even those diagnosed with MS are not terrified.
You could be sent around to various specialists to get to the bottom of things, but that's all to the good. If you'll be using France's national health resources, I understand they are among the best.
Good luck to you, and please let us know what happens.
ess
The internet is a great resource for lots of things, but researching health conditions has its perils. Because MS affects the central nervous system, which is a big place, there are dozens of possible symptoms, some more likely than others, but still dozens. So when people google their combination of symptoms, MS very often is a match. This can be very misleading.
For several reasons, it's unlikely that you have MS. First, MS can't involve 'all over' symptoms, because each symptom or problem is caused by a specific lesion in either the brain or the spinal cord. It is inconceivable that lesions would appear simultaneously everywhere in the CNS.
Also, fever is not associated with MS, and there is no infection involved. And problems which are extremely symmetrical, such as those you describe in your hands, rarely happen early in the MS process. Really, the only symptoms you describe that are worrisome in terms of MS are the numbness and the problems with urination.
So what I suggest you do first is get a complete check-up. Blood testing could help identify what is going on with you. If necessary see a neurologist too, to find out in particular whether something is impinging on your spinal cord, or whether something else neurological might be wrong. It's way too soon to be zeroing in on MS and to be worrying yourself to the point of terror. Even those diagnosed with MS are not terrified.
You could be sent around to various specialists to get to the bottom of things, but that's all to the good. If you'll be using France's national health resources, I understand they are among the best.
Good luck to you, and please let us know what happens.
ess
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