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Brain lesions and chronic pain: MS or FMS?

by jcg43, Jun 24, 2007 12:00AM
Dear reader,
For the last 9 months, I've been experiencing a variety of symptoms which have become persistent and disabling: fatigue, difficulty concentrating, severe neuralgias, allodynia, hyperalgesia, hypertonia. I also had several episodes of balance and orientation difficulties. An MRI revealed several lesions on both sides of the frontal cortex and the left temporal lobe. Serum CPK was consistently high (around 300-400 on four separate occassions). Serum and CSF testing ruled out Lyme disease, lupus, and RA but did not confirm MS. Consult with a couple of neurologists and rheumatologists have yielded no definite diagnosis but a "mistery condition." I've been told that the brain lesions and symptoms do not support or rule out MS and a 6-month follow-up MRI was suggested. I'm a 43 yo female otherwise healthy with no prior hx of medical conditions. I've done some reading on MS and FMS but I'm still unclear as to what are the differentiating characteristics: Are brain lesions found in FMS patients also? are the locations different from MS?

Sufferring and totally confused. Many thanks in advace for your feedback!
Member Comments (20)

by dottypotty, Feb 15, 2008 06:44PM
fms ad ms ae very simmilar done ll that with hospitals i get down sometimes hubbydosnt under statnd

by patsy10, Feb 15, 2008 07:57PM
FMS and MS do have similar symptoms.  Primary FMS is just fms in itself.  Other conditions can cause secondary FMS like MS.  FMS doesn't cause brain lesions.  I'm not a doctor but I would suspect whatever is causing your brain lesions is causing fibro symptoms as a secondary problem.  Just my opinion.  Is your neuro an MS specialist?  An MS specialist can rule in or out MS or conditions that mimick MS.

by dottypotty, Feb 16, 2008 09:58AM
To: Patsy
Doy suffer from this ive had it about 8yrs me and my daugher was in a car accident thats what made it worse whats bothering me is the numness in my face i have had it all day

by dottypotty, Feb 18, 2008 04:25PM
Patsy its me again think the tingling could be med Gabapentin also caused me to put on weight a stone in one month i dont know whats the answer

by dottypotty, Feb 18, 2008 04:25PM
Patsy its me again think the tingling could be med Gabapentin also caused me to put on weight a stone in one month i dont know whats the answer

by dottypotty, Feb 18, 2008 05:46PM
sorry its put it though twice pcs

by patsy10, Feb 18, 2008 10:11PM
It does cause weight gain.  I tried it for my numbness and tingling and it didn't do anything.

by dottypotty, Feb 19, 2008 04:01PM
To: patsy
So do y think with fms that is with the condiner that y get the numness and the tingling My tingling has only started  since i went on gabapentin What med are y taken and does it help from dorothy

by patsy10, Feb 19, 2008 06:58PM
To: dotpot
I don't take any meds.  I just live with this stuff.  Fibro is not a disease.  It's a group of symptoms without a known cause.  So even with a fibro diagnosis you really don't know what you have. I really think I have something much worse causing the fibro symptoms.  My neuro gave me neurontin to treat the numbness and tingling.  It didn't work so I stopped it.  I'm not sure if it can cause numbness and tingling.

by dottypotty, Feb 20, 2008 04:16PM
To: Patsy
How do y not take any meds I dont know how y stand the pain and get to sleep The numbness and tingling in my face is sending me crazy It goes off for a bit but soon returns ps how long have y had this

by dottypotty, Feb 20, 2008 04:16PM
To: Patsy
How do y not take any meds I dont know how y stand the pain and get to sleep The numbness and tingling in my face is sending me crazy It goes off for a bit but soon returns ps how long have y had this

by dottypotty, Feb 20, 2008 04:17PM
To: Patsy
How do y not take any meds I dont know how y stand the pain and get to sleep The numbness and tingling in my face is sending me crazy It goes off for a bit but soon returns ps how long have y had this

by dottypotty, Feb 20, 2008 04:17PM
To: Patsy
How do y not take any meds I dont know how y stand the pain and get to sleep The numbness and tingling in my face is sending me crazy It goes off for a bit but soon returns ps how long have y had this

by dottypotty, Feb 20, 2008 04:19PM
To: Patsy
silly pc ive sent it twice again

by patsy10, Feb 20, 2008 06:07PM
To: dotpot
I've had this for 3 years.  I have a very high pain tolerance.  The tingling and numbness bothers me more.  I have just learned to live with it.

by dottypotty, Feb 21, 2008 12:54PM
To: Patsy
Thats whats bothring me it horrible my face is numb and tingling and also pain Irung the drs he said it could be meds i am taking but the numbness is part of the condition

by patsy10, Feb 21, 2008 06:33PM
To: dotpot
Have you had a full neuro work-up with MRI's, etc..?  I personally don't believe the numbness is from fibro.  I think it's something else.  I think the fibro is secondary to something else.

by taniaaust1, Feb 21, 2008 07:47PM
To: jcg
Brain lesions are found in ME (also called Chronic fatigue syndrome by many), FM patients very often have CFS/ME (the statistics are 25% of those with FM)  ...so hence I know that brain lesions in this case may certainly be found in a large group of those with FM.

MRI scans of someone with CFS .. may show elevated numbers of punctuate lesions, particularly in the frontal lobes and the subcortical areas.  

(im no medical person..but just someone with CFS and FM)

  

by dottypotty, Feb 22, 2008 03:08PM
To: Patsy
I b  but ti  went drs today and what a releve numness and pressing in my face was sinuses

by dottypotty, Feb 22, 2008 03:28PM
To: PATSY
i should have added this  What is a neuro work up  with mris etc I had a mri on my back because i was having a lot of pain They found my disc was rubbing together I WAS ALSO IN A CAR ACCIDENT SO I HAVE GOT MORE THEN ONE THING WRONG

by dottypotty, Feb 22, 2008 03:31PM
To: jcg
Am sorry dont know this one hope y get soughted

by patsy10, Feb 22, 2008 03:56PM
To: dotpot
A neuro work-up would be seeing a neurologist and getting tests run.  Numbness and tingling can be  a sign of a neurologic problem like MS.  At the very least, an MRI of the brain to see if there are any abnormalities which may be causing symptoms all over your body.  I've heard of sinusitis causing pain and pressure in your face and head but I have never heard of it causing numbness on the face.

by dottypotty, Mar 25, 2008 05:12PM
To: patsey
I lost my password Hope you are not to bad The pains i get get sharper its the numbness down one side of face Used to get in my leg for about 3months then it went Drs says cant do anything for numbness it comes and goes in my hands and fingers He does not want to send me any where because rumbatoloist named the condition and had mr scan on back showed my disc s rubing together then car accident 3yrs ago has made it worse love from dorothy x
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