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Legs twitch
I am a 57 year old male. I recently noticed that my right and left calf will twitch when at rest. More on the right and less on the left. It is not constant and cannot be felt or noticed when I excercise. I have some dull muscle pain or stiffness in the right leg that I have had for months and maybe a year but it comes and goes depending on my activity level. I attributed this to the aging process. I have noticed no weakness in the legs, balance is not a problem, no obvious loss in muscle mass in the legs hands or arms. No speech problems. All limbs appear to be as flexible. No reflecx issues.
I am nearly phobic about ALS and have gone for a complete physical in a family practice. The results of the physical were positive with nothing to be concerned about according to the doctor.
I need to get this fear of ALS in perspective so that I do not think that every pain or twitch is a symptom.
I am nearly phobic about ALS and have gone for a complete physical in a family practice. The results of the physical were positive with nothing to be concerned about according to the doctor.
I need to get this fear of ALS in perspective so that I do not think that every pain or twitch is a symptom.
Thank you for information. I appreciate the input. This is a great service for people who seek information about rather complex problems.
First of all, keep in mind that I am unable to diagnose you because I am unable to examine you, this forum is for educational purposes.
I agree that some information on ALS will be helpful for you. The symptoms that you describe of twitches in the calves in the absence of weakness or atrophy is not consistent with ALS (also called motor neuron disease). The twitches that you describe are likely fasiculations and these can occur in normal people, after exercise, after a viral infection, with electrolyte imbalances, and also in some neuromuscluar diseases including ALS. The vast majority of fasicualtions are benign, and are termed benign fasicualtion syndrome. In ALS fasicualtions accompany weakness and atrophy of muscles. Fasiculations are not an early sign of ALS and without other features, fasiculations themselves should not give concern about ALS. Other 'clues' is that benign fasiculations tend to be more wide spread (all over the body, on both legs, etc.) while in ALS the fasiculations tend to be more prominent in the muscles that are affected by weakness and atrophy as well. In patients that present with isolated fasicualtions, I suggest several things: first an EMG (muscle-nerve test that will show specific changes if there is signs of ALS) to put your mind at ease that in addition to no weakness or atrophy there is also no electrical signs of ALS. Second, an electrolyte panel including sodium, potassium, chloride, Co2, BUN, creatnine, calcium, magnesium and phosphorus (blood work).
I hope this has been helpful.
I agree that some information on ALS will be helpful for you. The symptoms that you describe of twitches in the calves in the absence of weakness or atrophy is not consistent with ALS (also called motor neuron disease). The twitches that you describe are likely fasiculations and these can occur in normal people, after exercise, after a viral infection, with electrolyte imbalances, and also in some neuromuscluar diseases including ALS. The vast majority of fasicualtions are benign, and are termed benign fasicualtion syndrome. In ALS fasicualtions accompany weakness and atrophy of muscles. Fasiculations are not an early sign of ALS and without other features, fasiculations themselves should not give concern about ALS. Other 'clues' is that benign fasiculations tend to be more wide spread (all over the body, on both legs, etc.) while in ALS the fasiculations tend to be more prominent in the muscles that are affected by weakness and atrophy as well. In patients that present with isolated fasicualtions, I suggest several things: first an EMG (muscle-nerve test that will show specific changes if there is signs of ALS) to put your mind at ease that in addition to no weakness or atrophy there is also no electrical signs of ALS. Second, an electrolyte panel including sodium, potassium, chloride, Co2, BUN, creatnine, calcium, magnesium and phosphorus (blood work).
I hope this has been helpful.
Just a note that about 6 months ago I had many neurological symptoms that were similar to what I am reading here. It took a while but whas diagnosed with Celiac enteropothy or gluten intolerance. I had severe dizziness, burning of the hands feet and top of head, fatigue, ataxia, joint sweeling and pain, vasculitis, skin lesions, brain fog, muscle jerking/spasms at night and overall muscle vibrations. Dissiculty breathing. Early on I had difficulty swallowing, chest pain and extreme palpitations. Mri even showed possible demyelinations disease. Now that I have changed my diet, I am sooooooooooooo much better, the celiac has caused malabsorption of vitamins and I am very low on magnesium and ferritin. This disease can cause many autoimmune disorders, I have hypothyroid. Anyway, it has been a long road but I am getting better with the help from my rhuematologist. I encourage anyone with these symptoms to think of this as a diagnosis, the diet change is the cheapest most effective way to feel better. This you can do on your own, without the help of a Dr. Diet change is life long, but then again so is feeling bad. Hope this helps even one person.
Have you ever asked your doctor about RLS? Restless leg Syndrome? I don't have it but I keep seeing a TV commercial regarding it. I don't know much about it, but I'm sure you can Google it. It sounds like you have a few of the symptoms. Just a thought.
Dear, "Ulk"
Please be advised that I am not responding to you as a physician but that of education, and information.
A few variables fit for ALS but it seems that there are not nearly enough. Your family doctor as we both know is not qualified to say "no" but he is qualified to see danger signs. To get this fear out of your mind see a neurologist who specializes in ALS. And, do not forget to do some research on Lyme disease, et al.
Good Luck!
JCmcc.
Please be advised that I am not responding to you as a physician but that of education, and information.
A few variables fit for ALS but it seems that there are not nearly enough. Your family doctor as we both know is not qualified to say "no" but he is qualified to see danger signs. To get this fear out of your mind see a neurologist who specializes in ALS. And, do not forget to do some research on Lyme disease, et al.
Good Luck!
JCmcc.
I was hoping that a doctor could give an overview of this illness because there is so much misinformation about weakness, atrophy and muscle twitching. If you read the information it is impossible to know what to think. In my case I can see the skin move in my calfs (both right and left).
JcMcc is correct, you need to get to an ALS clinic, they are the specalist! Also, no neuro will be able to diag you if there is no weakness and atrophy, but go for your peace of mind.
Good Luck
Good Luck
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