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Seizure After Getting The Wind Knocked Out?

My 6yr old son was playing soccer the other day with his aunt who accidently kicked the ball into the RUQ of his abdomen. I know that because of the mark that it left there right after it happened. Of course right away we all could see that he had gotten the wind knocked out of him. He was hunched over trying to catch his breath. His father and I then laid him down supine as much to our surprise he didn't appear to be breathing yet (we waited the usual time that you would expect someone to start breathing again). He then was very pale( it was starting to get dark outside, so it would be safe to say that if he was breathing it was not effective). His eyes then started to roll into the back of his head and he extended his legs while his upper body rocked from side to side. It felt like forever, but I'm sure this whole incident took place over just a minute. At the end of the jerking with his eyes in the back of his head he appeared lifeless extremeley pale (hard to say if he was cyanotic given the dim lighting), and I was getting ready to give rescue breaths when he started to breath again. His color was back to ruddy right away, and he responded to the question "...say something if you can hear me!" with "forget". Weird.
What I would love to know is why would this happen. His doc is sure that he had a seizure and that it was a fluke incident. I asked if this would happen every time he gets the wind knocked out of him or any othe traumatic event. He didn't think so. My son did play a game that night and the doc did wonder if he was perhaps slightly dehydrated. Could've been. He had 2 bottles of water during his game, but it was 88 outside too. Should I have anything else checked out. Dont have to worry about brain cancer or anything?
Thanks So Much!
WORRIED MOM
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Hi Andrea,
Since your son didnt have a head injury, more than likely he will be fine. As far as having another seizure if and when he gets the wind knocked out, thats hard to say. Your son had what is called a Vasovagral related seizure.Im asuming that you are a nurse? If so, you are probably familiar with vasovagral syncope that happens to people (like myself) in response to sudden intense pain, blood test procedures etc. I have a tendency to have a drop in blood pressure and have to lie down if I cut myself, or if I have to have blood tests done. Anyway, two years ago I had a seizure during a vasovagral incident. I had never had a seizure before and havent since. What happened to me was unexpected. I had just gotten into my car with my husband on a very hot summer day. I opened a soda and drank a big sip. It went down the wrong way causing me to momentarily not be able to breath AND caused a very sharp pain in my chest. Next thing I know i felt the familar nausea and hot flash that comes right before you faint. My husband then says i fell over into his lap and then  had a grand mal seizure. He says I then came out of it saying "I dont know". After going to the hopital and having a CT scan as well as an ECG done to rule out something more serious, the doctor determined that the seizure was caused by the vasovagral episode. She told me that sometimes a combination of things can bring on a seizure like that. In my case it was probably the sudden sharp pain and inability to breath for a minute.Doc said that also since it had been a few hours since I'd eaten AND it was very hot in the car that those things probably contributed to the vasovagral related seizure. A soccer ball to the stomach (my son also plays) causes sudden intense pain and inability to breath which prbably caused his blood pressure to drop
vasovagral episode.This in turn caused a seizure.Doc told me that it probably wont happen again.Hope all is well for your son.
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I was relieved to read your story because we had a very similar incident with my 3 and a half year old last week.  He was at preschool, so I didn't observe it.  But as far as we can piece it together, he fell and had his wind knocked out, walked towards his teacher who met him halfway, and while she was holding him, he either fainted or had a seizure that was much more subtle than your son's.  The teacher reported tenseness in his body when she laid him down to perform CPR.  He turned blue and she blew breath into his lungs two times and he woke up.  I believe he would have woken up anyway.  He was reportedly slightly dazed, but when asked his name and age was able to respond.

You posted this over a year ago.  Have you had any incidents like this since?  

Thank you.
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I am not sure what parents did before the internet but wanted to thank you all for allowing me to calm down and breathe normal again. I am right now on my blackberry at mcdonalds and blessed to have found this posting. My almost five year old just fell and landed on his chest across the plastic stair to the play structure here. He immediately screamed and ram toward our table but as I grabbed him I realized he was not breathing. His body had gone limp and his eyes glazed over and his head flopped back. I had never seen anything like it. He started breathing and after about 15 seconds of disorientation appears fine. He ate and is playing again! Thanks for sharing your stories. Gives me a huge sense of relief and peace.
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I agree, this post has just put me to ease.  My daughter fell at the playground and hit her abdomen on a bar.  She ran to me telling me her belly hurt and then passed out turned pale and was making a snorting noise with her eyes fixed open.  Looked very seizure like but without jerking movements, more stiffness.  She came back around after about 15 seconds and is now very tired.

I called her pediatricians office and they wanted me to send her to the ED.  I am a nurse myself and in attempts to avoid her being poked and proded and put through a bunch of tests in the ED, I opted to observe her a home for a bit and do some research.

She is now back to normal after about 45min of rest, and just ate a meal.  After seeing this post, I am reassured that to follow-up with the doctor in the morning will be just fine.  Thanks
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My 7 yr daughter experienced exactly the same (wind knocked out followed by brief seizure) after falling of a bicycle.  I am not a 100% convinced that it was a Vasovagal event, in which reduced BP and hence reduce O2 to brain results in syncope.  Here, all kids seem to have experienced some sort of a seizure --- my daughter went stiff w/ mild convulsions, then limp w/ eyes rolled up.  However, it is reassuring to me that this happened to other children under similar circumstances and they have all recovered fully within minutes.
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My daughter who is 11 got the wind knocked out of her blocking a soccer ball that went into her abdomen--she went down like most kids with "getting the wind knocked out" and then suddenly went into a violent seizure-side to side flipped over-the coach got to her first said her eyes rolled in back of her head-foamed at the mouth-wasn';t breathing--we ran over(this all took about 30-45 seconds)she had come to and thought she "had a dream"-knew where she was--ambulance came went to emergency room had EKG and chest X-ray-both normal--just got back EEG results-it's been 6 weeks since incident and although there is no seizure activity, there is "slowing on left side of brain"waiting to talk with Dr.--what does this mean?  Now they want to follow up with MRI--she has been completely normal, now I am freaked out
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This is the only forum after an hour of searching that seems to share the same cause and symptoms of what happened to my 5y/o daughter today.

Playing on the ramp of a bouncy castle, she camp too far off the ramp and landed on her bum/lower back.  She sat there for ~5 seconds looking at me, then walked over and started crying which turned into a moan, and on my lap she had what I would have called a seizure more-so than a fainting.  Head back, eyes rolled back, body limp but stiff semi-stiff.  Out for about 15 seconds, then gradually regained consciousness.  She was fuzzy for a couple minutes, but eventually responsive.

At first I was worried about spinal trauma so I was more concerned with immobilizing her and making sure she could feel her legs, but she could.  It didn't occur to me until later when she explained that she was "trying to cry but didn't have any air" that she'd had the wind knocked out of her.

We had her in the ER for two hours and they still weren't anywhere close to getting to her (after the initial nurse's triage) and by that point she was bouncing around and being her normal self so we went home.  The trauma happened 10 hours ago and she's been perfectly fine ever since.
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Thank for this. My 11 year was playing basketball when someone threw the ball and knocked the wind out of her. Coaches and teachers ran to her side her eyes had rolled back in her head and her whole body tighten. She opened her eyes for a moment and then again her eyes rolled back. The doctor was unsure and is sending her to a neurologist to have it checked out but your post really helped to puty mind at ease during this tome of waiting
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Yup.  Just saw this same things last night.  Mild case.  Girl fell on a soccer ball after getting tripped from behind.  She wasn't able to brace herself well, so she got the wind knocked out of her - a bad case of it.  Her voice let out a constant, single pitched noise for about 10 seconds and I knew immediately that she was in that helpless, cant-breath state.  

I went over to her and told her that she would be fine.  I rolled her over to her back and, with her eyes wide open, she started to drift.  Her eyes mildly rolled back but never closed.  Her eyes went blank - that undeniable look that she had lost consciousness.  At that same time, her body went stiff and she appeared to be having a small seizure.  From the time her eyes started to roll to the time the life came back into her eyes was maybe 5 seconds.  

She let out a gasp and said, "I am fine now."  

I was never scared for her.  I have seen concussions and seizures and whatever she was going through was not concerning to me. It seemed bizarrely safe, if I dare say.  

After reading the prior blogs, my guess is that the pain, stress, loss of oxygen, and perhaps even some dehydration, led to a vasovagral incident.  

She sat out the rest of practice, very reluctantly.  I gave a full report to her Mom.  Her parents reported she was totally normal ever since.  
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