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Compulsive masturbation
I am currently being treated by a therapist/counselor for a problem with compulsive masturbation.
I have been addicted to porn/masturbation for 25 years.
About 5 years ago, I began experiencing significant muscle loss throughout my body, as well as burning/tingling in my muscles. I've also developed severe insomnia.
I have read an article, stating that excessive sexual activity can cause a depletion of the neurotransmitter Acetylcholine (Ach) in the brain, which can result in damage to the neurons and neuromuscular junctions.
I've had countless number of medical tests over the last few years and all have come up negative. Has anyone ever come across, a case like mine? Is there anyone else that experiences these symptoms? If my muscle loss is due to the depletion of Ach, then is there a way to increase Ach production? Will the muscles ever become strong again or will they always be atrophied and painful?
Need help!
David
I have been addicted to porn/masturbation for 25 years.
About 5 years ago, I began experiencing significant muscle loss throughout my body, as well as burning/tingling in my muscles. I've also developed severe insomnia.
I have read an article, stating that excessive sexual activity can cause a depletion of the neurotransmitter Acetylcholine (Ach) in the brain, which can result in damage to the neurons and neuromuscular junctions.
I've had countless number of medical tests over the last few years and all have come up negative. Has anyone ever come across, a case like mine? Is there anyone else that experiences these symptoms? If my muscle loss is due to the depletion of Ach, then is there a way to increase Ach production? Will the muscles ever become strong again or will they always be atrophied and painful?
Need help!
David
Don't look at anything attractive. Stay away from mirrors. Sometimes we loose our footing and take on a compulsive disorders because of some trauma or serious betrayal. But it is up to us to get ourselves back into control before it really affects our lives, i.e. obesity, smoking, over masturbating, random sex, etc. These compulsive disorders we had under control before this trauma. Meditation, serious meditation constantly reminding yourself of your dreams, your past, your real joys, your accomplishments. These set off the same chemicals and you don't have to masturbate. Get ahold of yourself by way of manually controlling and feeding thoughts to yourself. Practice other forms of soothing your aching anxiety issues too.
I masturbate I feel like masterbation has took control of my life and I need/want to stop so bad
I'm going through the same thing as you,these dont understand.
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Same here
I don't even mind this. On the contrary, I would like to have compulsive masturbators as friends. I even want to help them out. If anyone wants to talk, I am here.
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Can you help me?
just wanted to mention that i am a 40 years old chronic addicted virgin masturbator with at least 10 times masturbation every day...(me record is 22 times in 10 hours) and i dont think that muscle loss is happening cause of masturbating....jsut wanted to say
M is not the only problem. Find a safe place to meet people. Places like youth groups at church, single dances,etc. Just be friendly and only speak positive. This attitude will attract the love of your life. Find singles that are happy and the association will attract like minded possible partners. Go for it.
Hi! Sometimes I masturbate frequently and stopped and return masturbation days after. Is it okay and gives me a good result or still any other negative effects on my body? Is it harmful yet beneficial or what? Thanks.
Hey there! I read you comment to Katulu. How are you feeling? Making any progress? And how long have you been doing to M? I appreciate your feedback. Thanks!
It seems most comments, while varying widely from religious to scientific justifications, are ignoring an often overlooked and yet quite profound facet of reality: There can be no secular division between science and the physical ramifications of the unique creation we enjoy...most refer to this simply as "God" to simplify comprehension. As sentient beings, we do not follow strict accordance with scientific law (God) - we can deviate as we see fit - but that deviation does have consequences. The primary fallacy of ANY masturbation is poor self-reflection in the face of self-satisfaction. This has two equal and opposite ramifications depending on an individual's history:
1. Ego justification: I feel a craving not unlike hunger and I want to satisfy it because it feels good to do so and seems to have no direct repercussions. After all, I'm human and I'm more intelligent than a dog and also more aware of my body and its needs. I've seen dogs masturbate, so I'm not violating any natural law. However, comparing ones self to a lesser sentience is poor justification for filling a niche. Do we think Einstein was a chronic masturbater? Possibly, but probably not. He understood the natural law well enough to expand on it for the benefit of all and not reduce it to justify self-satisfaction.
2. God-minded/Scientific justification: Natural law (God) permits masturbation because it otherwise would not be possible. So long as I don't lose my touch with the relational and reproductive importance of sexual pleasures, I can balance risk and reward and float on. Though not clearly evident, this justified behavioral pattern results in oscillations between OCD-type patterns and a higher state of mental wellness. The balance promotes itself, and any sustained behaviors that challenge this "average" will promote the opposite behavior. I know this from experience with many many MANY facets of overindulgence, not just chronic masturbation. Self-acceptance is usually a balance of self-promotion and self-loathing, but it is still a far cry from "natural order".
If a person strays from the natural order set forth by the history of the universe as we know it, their sentience becomes polluted by a self-imposed manifestation: a.k.a. OCD. It is simply a lack of putting things in proper perspective and being appreciative that we exist and do probably have a more significant purpose in this universe than we are aware of. Whether this is self-realized or not determines acceptance or avoidance of self-reliance, but regardless the behavioral (and thus mental) deviance continues. This gives credence to the above posts suggesting those with the problem "Turn to God" for resolution. By removing ones self from the equation, the requirement for self-satisfaction disappears altogether, and before the recovering addict is even aware, he/she is enjoying natural satisfaction in ways they never thought possible...mostly because their thoughts were focused on pleasuring one's self and maintaining some sort of pattern of justification.
The biggest problem in modern day as it relates to excessive masturbation is in all actuality a problem with self-awareness in a grander scheme. There are a great many distractions that deprive our senses of this logic, and the biggest contributor (as it pertains to masturbation) is quite obviously pornography. Anchor yourself in the true reality and not your own, and the effort (and thus the obsession) fades into the nothingness that it truly is.
1. Ego justification: I feel a craving not unlike hunger and I want to satisfy it because it feels good to do so and seems to have no direct repercussions. After all, I'm human and I'm more intelligent than a dog and also more aware of my body and its needs. I've seen dogs masturbate, so I'm not violating any natural law. However, comparing ones self to a lesser sentience is poor justification for filling a niche. Do we think Einstein was a chronic masturbater? Possibly, but probably not. He understood the natural law well enough to expand on it for the benefit of all and not reduce it to justify self-satisfaction.
2. God-minded/Scientific justification: Natural law (God) permits masturbation because it otherwise would not be possible. So long as I don't lose my touch with the relational and reproductive importance of sexual pleasures, I can balance risk and reward and float on. Though not clearly evident, this justified behavioral pattern results in oscillations between OCD-type patterns and a higher state of mental wellness. The balance promotes itself, and any sustained behaviors that challenge this "average" will promote the opposite behavior. I know this from experience with many many MANY facets of overindulgence, not just chronic masturbation. Self-acceptance is usually a balance of self-promotion and self-loathing, but it is still a far cry from "natural order".
If a person strays from the natural order set forth by the history of the universe as we know it, their sentience becomes polluted by a self-imposed manifestation: a.k.a. OCD. It is simply a lack of putting things in proper perspective and being appreciative that we exist and do probably have a more significant purpose in this universe than we are aware of. Whether this is self-realized or not determines acceptance or avoidance of self-reliance, but regardless the behavioral (and thus mental) deviance continues. This gives credence to the above posts suggesting those with the problem "Turn to God" for resolution. By removing ones self from the equation, the requirement for self-satisfaction disappears altogether, and before the recovering addict is even aware, he/she is enjoying natural satisfaction in ways they never thought possible...mostly because their thoughts were focused on pleasuring one's self and maintaining some sort of pattern of justification.
The biggest problem in modern day as it relates to excessive masturbation is in all actuality a problem with self-awareness in a grander scheme. There are a great many distractions that deprive our senses of this logic, and the biggest contributor (as it pertains to masturbation) is quite obviously pornography. Anchor yourself in the true reality and not your own, and the effort (and thus the obsession) fades into the nothingness that it truly is.
Hello! I read your post. Very informative. How are you doing with your addiction? Hope you're great! I too have taken on a healthy diet,taking vitamins and cleaning my mind from this addiction. Trying my best. Good post! Thanks for your help and input.
That's a good story! I'm going to follow your example. Put God in my mind and throw out the sexual/physical garbage. I'm 6 weeks so far in quiting my masturbation addition. Trying to do a lil spring cleaning mentally. How are you doing? Thanks for your help and input.
I just read your post. Wanted to know if your feeling alot better. Did you quit masturbating or still doing it? Are you still having anxiety and depression issues? I too am trying to quit my masturbation habit. It's been six weeks now and doing my best. Stop thinking about porn,sex or anything in that area. Keep myself busy through the day. This is what I'm doing. Thanks for your help and info.
Right on. However, i'm wondering why i almost prefer to get myself off than the "trauma" of anticipation whether or not i can come with her.
Hi,Although I am a medical Graduate and I am very fond of watching nude indian woman picture and masturbating. Althogh I feel guilty but I cannot stop me from doing it.
Your brain has rewired himself on porn , you need to stop this if you don't want to lose your mind .You have problems with your neurotransmitters , and neuro-hormones Acetylcholine , GABA , serotonine and espiecialy dopamine . You need to go on a diet with lots of vitamins , i suggest you : Bananas , apples , rice , dark chocolate , lots of dark green leaves . You need to change your thinking , to want this change , it is a very big problem your mental state . You need to understand that porn and masturbation is a bad thing , just find something else to do , to focus on .I am speaking for everybody , life is worth living you need to find yourself again , to be a new you . Pray if this helps to whatever it takes to become the old you , change your habbits . This are the main problems in M. :Loss of memory , anxiety , sometimes lower abdominal pain , problem focusing , unusual behaviour .The loss of memory and focus can be repaird by time , eating the right stuff , sleeping 8-9 h /day + supplements ( Vitamin C , B , Zinc , citric fruits , apples avoiding junk food , spicy food) avoid mental exercise when you feel tired .Make a new scheldue , and respect it , less computer and TV helps .Just think like this , you have 2 problems here 1 physical and 1 mental . The Physical problem is that you are tired , you lack of sleep , you need to sleep more eat right and give your body what he needs to recover . The mental one , get the M. out of your life and the obssesive behaviour .I have this problem too , it is harder and harder . But , i have done some research and i think this may be the cure , i used to have a great mind an iq of 145-170 but now i am somewhere arrownd 110-120 with focus and memory problems , i am tired all the time , sometimes i am dizzy , blurred vision and speach. I hope this helped you all , if you still want to find the answer search it by others , keep searching other recovery stories whom succeded .I wish you the best , thank you .
That's ignorant on so many levels. But hey, if we can't expect a majority of neurologists to understand the disease of addiction (and only a few general physicians), how can we expect the general public to comprehend what has been proven by the world's top neurologist in addictionology. It is an addiction, no different than alcohol, heroin, cocaine, etc. Indeed, in the case of masturbation, the addiction works on the very same cyclical neurotransmitter and glandular release/uptake/void as heroin.
Again, I don't blame you or anyone else for failing to understand addiction, the science is up to speed but the medical community is far behind in educating the public. You admitted to not understanding the problem by your statement, "I have masturbated ever since I was like 10 years old and between age 10 to say 19 I use to masturbate 2-3 times a DAY every single day." You're not getting it. That's like somebody telling an alcoholic they "used to drink a lot of beers at keg parties in college" -- that has nothing to do with the alcoholic's problem in downing 750 ML vodka jugs daily which rips apart his liver, kidneys and intestines worse than direct poison. You will not understand this reply comment more than a family member that lectures an alcoholic about drinking and driving, and then at his funeral the next week, just can't understand "why he didn't listen." Well, "he" did listen, but the disease could care less. Like alcohol and other drugs, there are indeed harmful physical and neurological consequences to chronic/obsessive masturbation. And actually, the ones complained about are some of those harmful consequences.
This issue is not about morality, or "freedom of sexuality dude" or whatever the hell else -- it's about The Disease of Addiction -- and the sad state of reality that this poor guy is probably screwed because medicine, the public, and 99% of these bloggers are clueless. And- so will be the people to whom he turns for medical help. My advice=- a good rehab facility that is highly ranked to treat porn/sex addiction.
Again, I don't blame you or anyone else for failing to understand addiction, the science is up to speed but the medical community is far behind in educating the public. You admitted to not understanding the problem by your statement, "I have masturbated ever since I was like 10 years old and between age 10 to say 19 I use to masturbate 2-3 times a DAY every single day." You're not getting it. That's like somebody telling an alcoholic they "used to drink a lot of beers at keg parties in college" -- that has nothing to do with the alcoholic's problem in downing 750 ML vodka jugs daily which rips apart his liver, kidneys and intestines worse than direct poison. You will not understand this reply comment more than a family member that lectures an alcoholic about drinking and driving, and then at his funeral the next week, just can't understand "why he didn't listen." Well, "he" did listen, but the disease could care less. Like alcohol and other drugs, there are indeed harmful physical and neurological consequences to chronic/obsessive masturbation. And actually, the ones complained about are some of those harmful consequences.
This issue is not about morality, or "freedom of sexuality dude" or whatever the hell else -- it's about The Disease of Addiction -- and the sad state of reality that this poor guy is probably screwed because medicine, the public, and 99% of these bloggers are clueless. And- so will be the people to whom he turns for medical help. My advice=- a good rehab facility that is highly ranked to treat porn/sex addiction.
The modern medical profession is very good to have around if one needs an arm or a leg sown back on, or has been in a car accident, etc. But they really are deeply ignorant about many health issues, one of which is the harmful effect of excessive loss of seminal fluids. No you do NOT have to masturbate to remain healthy. The more of your semen you can retain, the healthier you will be. Google 'what is in semen', it takes a lot of the body's energy to manufacture.
Although I this message is for 'all' I would like to say that in now way I am putting anyone down because of being non-believers. I am a believer in Jesus Christ. I was a compulsive masturbator most of my life, I was also a promiscuous guy (very promiscuous!!!). Needless to say, I turned to the Lord for help because NOTHING else was helping. However, it is true that when I first turned to God for help, I felt quite guilty, not that I was not feeling guilty before for the emptiness and guilt that comes after masturbating so frequently is not "property" of the Christian only. Non-believers feel guilty as well. Anyway, the change started to happen when I TRULY AND HONESTLY AND COURAGEOUSLY AND WITH TRUE INTEGRITY I committed to the LORD for help. When I asked Him for help, I did my part as well. I stopped watching porno, stop watching as much as possible movies with sexual content of any kind, and even stop looking at semi-naked pictures from 'regular' magazines or the Internet. Now, I also REPENTED. Of course the word "repent" may trigger to many of us feelings of more guilt and depression; that's true and it was for me too. HOWEVER, when I found out that the Greek word for REPENT means also CHANGE OF MIND, things came into a better perspective. So when I repented, I changed my mind. I changed my mind by acknowledging to myself that what I was doing to myself and did to others WAS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO for it was destroying me and them. I was very anxious to the point of just masturbating without stopping even in the classroom; I would get arouse at the 'fall of of hat', my mind just couldn't stop thinking about having sex. As soon I got home I went to the computer and plugged myself into the obscurity of porn. I did so many things to arouse myself and keep my mind into the 'mood' that it occupied my free time. My concentration at work was dismal, my moodiness unbearable. As you can tell from this short true story of my life, I was a mess!!! But it took COURAGE, oh boy, lots of it, to put myself in the hands of the Creator of all, for I thought I have no control now of my life...but to my surprise, the LORD put the strength back into my feeble mind, opened new vistas for my future and strengthened my self-control. Yes, I have masturbated since: Four times in ONE YEAR!!!, two of which were out of desperation because I had a horrible neuralgia that couldn't be stop with pain meds, so I needed sleep to get to work. HOWEVER, when I was going to masturbate the THIRD time out of desperation, I ASKED the LORD please help me go sleep. I don't want to masturbate just because of this unbearable neuralgic feeling...and HE responded. I fell asleep a few minutes later. So I hope this help many of you, Christians and non-believers. This is my honest and true story. Do I still want to do masturbate? Sure, mostly in the mornings when my testosterone is highest (I'm 51 years old and still have enormous sexual drive), however, I clean my mind by CHANGING MY mind and thoughts and SUBMITTING to the LORD's help. And HE DOES!!! A note for any Christian here in this forum: REPENT (CHANGE YOUR MIND) of every sexual or dirty or negative or hateful, or angry thought you had during the day every nite before you go to bed. Every time I do that I feel enormous relief. I am much, much stronger today and my concentration, work ethic, mood are well above of what they used to be. Praise goes not to me...BUT TO MY GOD, MY LORD.
That's a very big problem if it goes out of hand. I think that some external causes such as having a partner who's not as sexual and looking at Internet porn are two of the biggest issues. Let me first clarify the latter.
I'm 31 and I've been Ming since I was 12. I believe that if you don't have any kind of readily available pornograhic material at home that will never fail to stimulate you, you will masturbate less. People must get away from all kinds of porn material because I think that watching/viewing porn is just like ordering/eating junk food. You simply don't make any effort to feel the way you want to which is feeling satisfied. Compared to establishing a healthy relationship with a member of the opposite sex, it requires much less effort and there's always loads of material in which you will accidentally discover or actively seek out people who look like the persons you have actually met and felt attracted to but didn't make a move because, well, it was "too time consuming," "worth the effort," "too risky to be good to people," "too risky to open up," etc. As a result of all this there will always be an emptiness that can not be filled up as long as you feed your compulsion. You should get away from all kinds of porn. That is to say external, artificial stimulus which is not your own doing. Your imagination is O.K. I guess because your fantasies are a part of you - not some people that you don't know adding to your feeling of isolation.
The second issue is the first one. Sometimes your partners can be a problem, but don't let it make you descend to your previous life. Let's say you finally quited looking at porn and are abstaining from doing it. You somehow get a partner but your partner doesn't feel as sexual as you do. You can't get back to your old self. If you want to be satisfied sexually you must earn it. Besides the emptiness will also be filled up with emotions that you craved for. You should talk it out with her, or wait for things to get better (this is the most difficult because restraining yourself is harder than abstaining altogether), or you can be with someone new as you did before now.
These are all from my story. Hope it helps.
I'm 31 and I've been Ming since I was 12. I believe that if you don't have any kind of readily available pornograhic material at home that will never fail to stimulate you, you will masturbate less. People must get away from all kinds of porn material because I think that watching/viewing porn is just like ordering/eating junk food. You simply don't make any effort to feel the way you want to which is feeling satisfied. Compared to establishing a healthy relationship with a member of the opposite sex, it requires much less effort and there's always loads of material in which you will accidentally discover or actively seek out people who look like the persons you have actually met and felt attracted to but didn't make a move because, well, it was "too time consuming," "worth the effort," "too risky to be good to people," "too risky to open up," etc. As a result of all this there will always be an emptiness that can not be filled up as long as you feed your compulsion. You should get away from all kinds of porn. That is to say external, artificial stimulus which is not your own doing. Your imagination is O.K. I guess because your fantasies are a part of you - not some people that you don't know adding to your feeling of isolation.
The second issue is the first one. Sometimes your partners can be a problem, but don't let it make you descend to your previous life. Let's say you finally quited looking at porn and are abstaining from doing it. You somehow get a partner but your partner doesn't feel as sexual as you do. You can't get back to your old self. If you want to be satisfied sexually you must earn it. Besides the emptiness will also be filled up with emotions that you craved for. You should talk it out with her, or wait for things to get better (this is the most difficult because restraining yourself is harder than abstaining altogether), or you can be with someone new as you did before now.
These are all from my story. Hope it helps.
Masturbation isnt the problem, pornograhy is...its simple. The problem is being addicted to watching porn. if you litter your mind with trash there are consequences. start watching something more positive like the secret, or tony robbins or something. Its like if someone is doing crack and obsessing about drugs, it will mess up different areas of their lives. Well if you obsess about positive thinking, that will effect your life in different ways and make you happier. Your subconscious mind will give you whatever you give it. It doesn't perceive "good and bad" like you conscious mind does, you perceive porn as "bad" like I do, so if I watch it, bad things seem to happen, or I just seem to feel bad. Recognize your morals, if porn hurts you, its because deep down you think its bad...listen to yourself and dont watch it.
Yeah I have a book that has be a great source of comfort and has helped me understand Sex Addiction in greater detail but yet I still find myself looking for comfort in masturbation or on occasion porn it is really starting to take control of me. I have told a few people about my problems but I guess the best place to talk about it is here with people who know exactly what I am going thorugh. Any advice please.
First and foremost, there is nothing wrong with masturbation. Secondly, your daily routine might have a lot to do with you feeling depleted; lack of exercise, poor diet, etc. Third, don't turn to Jesus, or "God", you'll just end up feeling worse than you did before; self guilt is meaningless in recovery from an assumed problem.
Try finding a good woman or guy, that masturbates a lot to. Also, not to insult you, but make sure your not a hypochondriac . . .
Good luck to you!
Try finding a good woman or guy, that masturbates a lot to. Also, not to insult you, but make sure your not a hypochondriac . . .
Good luck to you!
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this is a good resource I have used in the past and continue to use today. It is an obsessive compulsive disorder.
this is a good resource I have used in the past and continue to use today. It is an obsessive compulsive disorder.
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