OCD and if it can develop in to paranoia and depression

[theQuestion85]

Im a 29 your old male and my question is about OCD and if it can develop in to paranoia and depression I have had some panic problems and depression problems back in my teens and early 20tees where I could just ignore it and move on, now im 29 and its gotten to a new level. panic attacks have gotten really bad and my emotions are just up and down I just had my worst panic attack I have ever had 5 months ago. I have tried some meds like klonopin,Zoloft and clexa witch made me real sick but in all nothing really worked just made me very groggy or overly emotional I did have an appointment with a therapist but canceled at the last minute I was worried for some reason witch started me having irrational fears about a lot of random dumb stuff. If any one can give me some advice I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for your time.

[itsgoingtobeokay]

that comment was for anothe ruser but my method can still apply to you

[itsgoingtobeokay]

Hi Marco. I want to help you because I've dealt with OCD alone and I cured myself. I never went to get help for many reasons and no one in my family knows what I went through. I'm here to tell you personally from my own experience that you can cure your own OCD through knowledge. The more you know about something the more you understand how it works the better you can fix problems in that area. Now don't get me wrong cognitive behavioral therapy and exposure response therapy can help immensely but you can do it on your own without medication and the long term effects it can have on your body in the long run. I want to start off by saying that OCD comes from an anxiety disorder. Before your ocd you delt with anxiety until one day "one thought" caused so much anxiety that it turned into an obsessive thought. From what I've read... you go look up male porn to see if you'll get a boner .. that is you seeking reassurance because your thoughts give you so much self doubt that it's hard for you to remember who you are in the mess of it all. That is a compulsion. You let ocd control you when you go out of your way to prove to yourself that you aren't your thoughts through those complusions. I want you to give you a clear picture/practical/realistic view of what OCD is and once you are mindful of what's going on then you can look at it from a outside perspective and begin to help yourself. Before I begin I want you to remember that YOU ARE normal, this experience is normal, you are not crazy, you are not homosexual. If you were crazy you wouldnt know it but you are in touch with reality to realize that your not. If you were homosexual you wouldnt question whether or not you were 24/7 and you would enjoy it but the fact that it bothers you so much is proof enough to realize it's just ocd. OCD is something you fear, which in your case is obvious. So you think about your fear because you're afraid of it becoming a reality. The more you try to not think about something the more you think about it. The more you try to repress or push away your thoughts the more they occur but WHY? because when you first had your ocd thoughts your body automatically remembers your reaction to those thoughts and an alarm went off inside of you "anxiety" trying to protect from this "harm" that is only in your mind. Now your mind thinks something is wrong with those thoughts and it reminds you of them but once you change how you "feel" when you think about them then you can re-program the way your body reacts to them. The best thing you can do #1 is to KEEP LIVING LIFE LIKE NORMAL regardless of your OCD. sitting around thinking about it and interacting with every thought that passes by doesnt help does it? cause if it did ocd wouldnt be a problem. you need to distract yourself with daily resposiblities regarless of how hard it may be. You need to have an attitude about you like "ocd doesnt control me, I will not give in to the thoughts or compulsions, I will continue to live my life and I will not interact with these obsessive thoughts, eventually they will subside and in time I will cure myself without the help of medication. I will die trying before I give up on myself" do you understand? that it's all in your mind? if you practice "mindful awareness" everyday and you let the thoughts be there without interacting with them just label them as just another annoying ocd thought and you crush all your self doubt by being realisitc and saying to yourself that you know who you are .. your not letting your ocd control you anymore. remember #2 IT TAKES TIME to heal. It took me 6 months to cure myself but with these tips after 2 months I was already feeling so much relief and eventually you are free again. be smart, be strong, "mind over matter" realize what is really happening and educate yourself for the betterment of your recovery. nothing is wrong with you, you just have bad anxiety DO YOU UNDERSTAND? its simple but complex at the same time. you are going to be alright my friend. Hope this helps.

[JGF25]

OCD is a neurotransmitter disorder of the brain.  Medications do help level out the problem but it does not make it go away entirely.  You still need to know CBT as a fall back for those times when the medication just isn't enough.  With both meds and CBT, you will be able to manage your life very well even with an OCD diagnosis.  

Also, a major part of therapy is not giving into the thoughts.  So for instance if you have a checking problem, you can check once and that is it.  After that you need to walk away and do some controlled breathing, self-coaching, etc.  You cannot keep going back otherwise you will get stuck on that OCD thought.  This applies to passwords too.  If you want to change them once, fine, but you cannot keep changing them.  If you do, you find that nothing changes, you are still stuck on the thought.  Say ENOUGH in your mind and move on with something else.  You have to make yourself.  

[theQuestion85]

i know your right, iam researching therapists right now, today was bad i ended up changing my passwords on most of my accounts about five times just because i could not stop thinking about them.

[123tushar07]

ocd cannot be fixed by changing diet, its not like diabetes or  high blood pressure condition,its an anxiety disorder, for ocd the best treatment is therapy and 2nd is medication, combination of both is  the best solution

[theQuestion85]

Thanks for the book recommendation. I have just read some stuff over the years about ocd I have tried every thing from changing my diet, lost a good bit of weight but did not fix the ocd problem tried the natural remedies way still no luck.

[123tushar07]

therapy is very important in ocd, it is more effective than medicines . either you can consult a psychiatrist or you can do yourself with the help of book "Overcoming Obsessive Thoughts: How to Gain Control of Your OCD" by Purdon and Clark, if your problems are pure o thoughts, otherwise you can take help from other books

[theQuestion85]

Thanks for the reply

No I have never been to a therapist before I just told my doctor and he gave me some things to try but he has said therapy my help but im not much of an open person about my problems”in Person” I haven’t told meany people what iv been going thought and im not for taking pills the side effects kinda scare me. yes Zoloft made me groggy and some what emotional, celexa made me feel seasick and food wouldn’t stay down.
Thanks again

[JGF25]

I have found out first hand that untreated OCD can develop into depression.  I mean who wants to get out of bed every day when you know your mind is going to go in a million different irrational directions?  After a while the fight is just too exhausting.  

You should call up the therapist again and make the appointment.  Did you ever learn cognitive behavioral therapy when you had treatment before?  Also, yes the klonopin will make you groggy but the Zoloft and Celexa probably wouldn't but that doesn't mean they didn't make you sick.  What happened when you took them?