Hello Christine! I am the new Orthopedic Community Leader. That was a great story! Can I refer any future "frozen Shoulders" to you if they are contemplating surgery? I am a Orthopedic Surgical First Assistant and I have helped to arthroscopically release tissues around the shoulder joint many times (over the last 25+ years). I think if they all worked it like you, we wouldn't have had to take so many people to surgery. Thanks for sharing!
Have a great day! JD1963
Christine,
Thank you so much for that information. In October I started experiencing the same symptoms. I did see an Ortho and after x-Rays and MRI's it was confirmed I have frozen shoulder. Matter of fact I saw 2 ortho's to get another opinion. I am 44 years old and a mother of 3 grown boys. I have to say it has been debilitating. I was sent to PT and my symptoms got worse. I too have begun my own program with stretching and activities in the pool. (I live in FL so I am very lucky) I found that Chiropractic adjustments and massage have helped as well. I use a ten's unit once a day for about 15 minutes in the morning. It is going on 6 months now and I am hoping that this subsides soon. Please share any other secrets you may have. I have told many people that I would go through child birth again and again over having this frozen shoulder!!!!
hi my left arm is in pain and it has a briwn spot thats what causing the pain.
anyone know abut this
Oh I don't know about that " if they would have worked it like you, so many wouldn't have had surgery" Sometimes it works depends on what the problem is or causing the joint to freeze. I have suffered with Frozen shoulder 4 times. IT *****! it did not help that I tripped over the dog and fell off the porch on to it (go ahead laugh, our porch dog doesn't move) Anyway, when I fell I separated my shoulder and broke my collarbone NOW im in real agony, seeing surgeon tomorrow. So it is my belief once you have frozen shoulder its a touch and go sometimes it comes back and sometimes it exacerbates things in the future.. My first frozen shoulder HOLY COW, exercise it NO WAY! I couldn't move it for 3 months it was a slow process to unfreeze Im glad the young man found relief but I don't think it was frozen shoulder, frozen shoulder does resolve itself but not that quick could have been a bone spur but frozen shoulder is excruciating pain I have a high tolerance to pain I used to be very athletic, I have broke every bone in my body never needed pain pills too much but the aging process is brutal :)
UPDATE: I really thought I should update my original post because the problem has resolved itself.
Sometime after I first posted on this forum, I started to do a series of shoulder exercises. I did them pretty faithfully, almost every day for about 3-4 weeks when I started to notice significant improvement. I continued for another month or two with the exercises and my shoulder continued to improve. Perhaps about 4 months after starting the exercise regimen, my shoulder was 90% better.
Right now it is 100% healed. I am not sure if the exercises did it or they just coincided with the shoulder getting better on its own. I am almost positive I had "frozen shoulder" and I read that it can resolve itself over time.
I had this thing for over a year. It slowly got worse until more and more movement was restricted, but it never got painful enough that I had to take aspirin or ibuprofen. But It was unpleasant.
I am so happy now that I have been totally pain-free for quite awhile now. I don't do the shoulder exercises anymore but I have written them down and if I ever experience this frozen shoulder again, I will start on the exercises immediately. When I did the exercise, I would stretch my own arm/shoulder to the point where it would hurt.
I never went to a doctor for this as I didn't have medical insurance at the time. From some of the horror stories I've read regarding surgical treatments, I'm kind of glad I avoided any major medial intervention.
I believe I got the exercises from the web. You can find some of these exercises in books such as "The Healthy Shoulder Handbook" and there may be other books that concentrate on the shoulder as well.
I did the exercises for just about 15-30 minutes a day.
So if anyone has "frozen shoulder" you should definitely try an exercise regimen.
please let me know if things are any better now for you, because I have similar symptoms as you do and I am at the point of exploration as to WHAT to do next. Other than go to the GP and start with a routine check. I just want to get to real heart of the problem instead of all the ordeal of what physicians put you through now days, just to generate a bill. I am just 60 and too young for this bologna... got things to DO ! If ya know what I mean.
Please let me know if you got reasonable results as I have same symptoms as you. I'm skeptical of surgeries for these kinds of things and would see a chiropractor at least first anyway.
HI, I have noticed something very similar over the years. It started out as pain in my upper arm. It is located between the two muscles. This has bothered me for years, figured I was sleeping on it wrong. Last week it flared up so I took ibuprofen and the pain went away and I could move my arm. I worry that the movement damaged something because this week the pain is excrutiating. Now, I can't even move my hand past my hip. I can lift the arm with some discomfort, but can't button anything behind me. Nor can I button something in the front then twist the article of clothing around. The twisiting takes about 15 minutes due to pain and lack of strenght. If I massage the arm muscle, my last two fingers tingle then the fingers curl and the entire arm aches. I also have pain in my clavicle and shoulder. I have noticed over the last few years a diminish in strength and range of motion on my ENTIRE right side and I am right side dominant and used to have incredible strength and muscle mass. I am afraid to take anything for pain because I worry that movement will cause further damage.
This is very helpful, I am experiencing pain in my upper arm/shoulder, I can not reach behind me without suffering terrible pain. I am also having pain in the upper arm bicep/tricep kind of like where you would receive a vaccine.
I am going to try a chiropractor
Thank you
Is the pain just down from the shoulder joint?
If so you may want to check to see if your neck is not out. I know it sounds odd but having your neck out can give intense pain in the upper arm, I know I have it. You'll need to see a chiropractor and probably for a couple of days a week for at least a month.
I'm currently having this in my left arm and am going to the chiro, I had this in my right arm and intense chiro manipulation cured it.
You may want to look into acupuncture, don't ask me how it works only that it does.
Hope you can get this fixed
Is the pain just down from the shoulder joint?
If so you may want to check to see if your neck is not out. I know it sounds odd but having your neck out can give intense pain in the upper arm, I know I have it. You'll need to see a chiropractor and probably for a couple of days a week for at least a month.
I'm currently having this in my left arm and am going to the chiro, I had this in my right arm and intense chiro manipulation cured it.
You may want to look into acupuncture, don't ask me how it works only that it does.
Hope you can get this fixed
Hi I had frozen surgery a year ago and went thou p/t for 4 mons and had a pulling min at home to pull my arm up and down for 3 weeks and many shots for pain and now I still can't get my arm behind my back or throw a ball or touch my right side with ourt servere pain and when I rotate my arm It pops and then servre pain I have tried shots and steaching nothing is helping had mri and it showed nothing this pain is horrible and now I can't put no pressure on my left arm or shoulder. Anyone know what this is? Thanks
Hi there!
Well, there could be several possibilities to the situation like dislocations, fractures, muscle/ ligament/ tendon injuries, nerve impingent/ damage, muscle strain causing stiffness, inflammations, myositis, bursitis, capsulitis, arthritis etc.; though inflammatory conditions would generally cause tenderness. Unless a cause is diagnosed, it would be inappropriate to suggest a treatment plan. I would advise seeing an orthopedician, or atleast a primary care physician and get a few basic tests such as x-rays done. Aside a physical examination, a complete evaluation may require a few more tests such as imaging studies like the MRI, routine blood tests, EMG, nerve condition studies etc; if suggested on a physical examination. Management again would depend on the cause diagnosed and may include medications, surgical repair in severely injured cases or fractures, physiotherapy etc. Meanwhile you may try hot fomentation and OTC NSAIDS and see if they help.
Hope this was useful.
Take care!
Hi kbug. Thanks for your reply. What was the source of your frozen shoulder?
As I said, I don't have medical insurance now and can't afford the range of tests they'd probably put me through. Can you describe the type of exercises they give you in physical therapy? Do they stretch you until it's painful.
I can do some exercises myself, even if it hurts. The only thing I'm worried about is making things worse. Is that possible if I push myself too hard?
What kind of prognosis did the doctor give you?
I have frozen shoulder syndrome in both shoulders. I would go see a ortho doc if you could. I have had mine for about 10 months as well. I am in PT and it is helping. I can get my left arm up my back and over my head now. My right arm is still a little more angry. But it could be Rotator cuff tear. or bursitis. Its worth a check. I hope this has been of some help