I'm divorced for 6 years, have twin sons, 20 yrs old. Remarried a year ago, he has 2 sons: 21&18. All boys are self sufficient, have jobs and in college. He has 2 dtrs., ages 14/ lives with his first wife. The other, 8 and a product of a 2nd marriage. He lived with them, divorced when SD was 3. He saw her regularly. Last year her mother moved her out of state 1200 miles away, sheleft her other 2 children with their father (her first marriage ages 15&17) We saw SD on 3 occasions when we traveled to see her where her mother now lives. Then, suddenly her mother phoned and said she wanted to give her to us because she couldn't handle her anymore. We took custody at that time. This child is suffering from some abandonment and ???, her mother told her she is moving with her Dad because she is "bad." She is a holy terror everyday. I DO NOT want to raise another child and we had a happy home prior to her ...ENTER this girl, it has been hell since. She is deliberately defiant at home and school, grades good/conduct for semester one point short of an "F" (think teacher was being kind), has no friends; she is bossy, cries, pouts, yells back at when she doesn't get her way. When she finds a new friend, she tattles to the parent's for whatever. No one at school or in neighborhood plays with her. I cringe when she tells me someone invited her to go with them somewhere because I'm certain she invited herself and the parent is just being kind. How Embarrassing to us as parents. Sadly, I hope the neighborhood knows she is not MY daughter. Since she came, her mother's sister had her over one time and has never called again. Her Half & Step bros. leave as soon as she gets home, her father has a passive attitude, his solution is give her what she wants to prevent behaviors. I set all the rules, I enforce them and expect everyone in the house to respect that. She's grounded regularly, aggravates others, undermines both her father and myself by asking one for something when she was already told no by the other. I love her, she's a child, it's not her fault but I can't like her, tolerate her or feel any emotional connection to her because she is making my life miserable. I've never seen a child like this. She constantly has to have attention, negative or not... When she came, her mother said she would sleep in her bed with her everynight and if her mother tried to get her to sleep in her own bed, she would keep her up all night until she got her way. Her mother has a new boyfriend, he couldn't tolerate this child either. I believe her Mother sent her to us so she can keep the boyfriend as sad as it is. This child exhibits public displays of defiance, wants to be treated like a baby, walks with baby dolls strolling them in the neighborhood, no other children that age have baby dolls. When my new grandchild comes over, she hovers over her, I have no time with the baby. If I tell the baby she's so pretty, my stepdaughter says, "Lacy's (not her name) pretty too, see how pretty I am?" I tell the baby to look at her fishies in our aquarium and this child argues that they are her fish. I get very angry with this baby talk, baby acting out and tell her the fish were never hers and that our family had them long before she came to live with us. She'll ask for food, then say she's not hungry and cry if she's made to eat it. I have tried very hard to like her but the thought of even seeing her after work is appalling to me. This week-end we are camping and I know that I will be the baby-sitter and she'll have a fit to sleep in the tent early tonight after waking everyone in the house at 5:00am this morning. Naturally, I'll be the one to go to bed early instead of enjoying my family and friends because she'll make everyone's time as miserable as she can until she gets her way. She responds to rules and consequences from me only but will do the same bad thing over and over as the days pass. I told my husband out of honesty that had I known we would EVER get her to raise, I wouldn't have married him. At that time I was speaking of a normally behaved 8 year old, well this is like I added fuel to the fire, she is hell on wheels!!!! I resent her mother for sending her to us and deserting all her kids, I resent her for being a child of this woman (My husband's first wife & mother of his other 3 kid's I get along with fine), I resent being put in a position at 48 yrs old to raise another child especially one of this caliber, and I try not to but sometimes I resent my husband for ruining what we had; our marriage, my sons, grandaughter and the other kids were the best things that ever happened to me. However, I also know that I would lose respect for him if he sent her away. The sad thing is, no one wants her because she drains the life and happiness out of you daily. I also know it's deliberate most of the time because I can tell she knows what problems she causes and keeps repeating them after she's punished for them. I don't know what to do because I know factually I cannot do this for the next 10 years, I had no intention of raising anymore kids, it was made very plain to me that this mother would NEVER, EVER part with this child so I married again. I'm too old for this, feel like I did my time and raised two great boys, no matter how I try, I'll never be able to love her like I love them. Am I selfish? My husband would do the same for me if this were my child, I don't think he would tolerate the behavior and inability to control or change it, the manipulation and deliberate actions to create problems with the entire family. Please advise, I'm desperate and about to move out of my house with my son, I'd even take his son's with me but never her! My husband and I keep saying that divorce is not an option but I'm starting to think it's a very real option to me. Especially after this morning. At 5:00am my husband got home from his night shift (he works rotating shifts), got in the shower, she came downstairs when she knew he was in the shower, woke me and said she heard Daddy come home and had a nightmare and was scared. This is a manipulation because how does 5 minutes elapse and she heard her father come in, went to sleep, had a nightmare, and come downstairs? I told her everything's fine, Daddy's home and to go back to bed, she argued to lay with us in our bed which was something that took us over a month to stop, I told her no and go back to bed, she went upstairs, woke each and every brother one at a time, each yelled at her to quit waking up people/acting like a little baby.. She waited until her Dad lied down and she came back AFTER I had told her to go to bed. My husband's response was to go turn on her TV and then she won't be scared. I got up, told her she's NOT turning the TV on, the latest rule is the TV is out at 9:00pm, no exceptions,we just started this 3 days ago. This of course affected my husband and I, and I told him his answer was just an easy course of action to keep from dealing with her, a short term solution/long term problem, once again...her mother created. So, I was up 4 hours before work, my day will be very long, I'm tempted to not go camping with the family because of it. As she left for daycare this morning she said, "Gosh, you have two hours now before you even have to go to work." I looked at her, then she smiled her defiant smile so her father couldn't see. What do I do? She has been to a psychologist for the failure to sleep in her own bed, constant lying, disrespect, ect... Her mother also had her on 50mg of Ritalin a day which I titrated her off of. Her behavior was no different with the meds than without. I'm desperate, please advise, thank you for reading this, I know it's long but felt it important to let you understand as much as possible for a profesional educated analysis.
counseling maybe. this kid sounds like she has some serious issues. if she doesn't take to the counseling is there anyone else who can take her? it is absolutely unfair for your husband and the girls biological mother to expect you to raise her. it's not fair to your marriage or to your other children. if there are is no other family....i honestly don't know what to tell you besides seek out a counselor.
have you thought about spanking? i know a lot of people are anti spanking but....in all honesty if my mom wouldn't have spanked me as a kid when i was bad i probably wouldn't have taken her seriously. when she said she would punish me and i kept up with the bad deed....she delivered on that promise and i got my bottom smacked...hard. i didn't do that deed again. so i was a good kid. lol.
Her mother also had her on 50mg of Ritalin a day which I titrated her off of. Her behavior was no different with the meds than without. -- your words
This statement tells me that this child is not ADHD. I do suspect this child is suffering from some severe mental health issue. If mental health issues are the problem, spanking won't work eiher. I wish I could help you more - are there any mental health services for children in your area? Could your family doctor or pediatrician or church pastor or school principal or local medical centre/hospital or even the yellow pages of the telephone book point you in the correct direction?
You claim that you "took custody" of this child; but I assume that is not legal custody. If so, then contact a lawyer to see your options. It does sound to me as if this child should be in some structured form of protective care with overseers from the mental health field. Perhaps others on this site can offer additional solutions ....
It sounds as if your Stepdaughter could have some sort of medical issue that has either been overlooked, or not at all. There are TONS of other issues children have than ADD and ADHD. She definitely needs to be evaluated and even counseling. There are things going on with her that need to be worked out. Her own mother gave her away! Can you imagine how troubling that would be? Even if she was being "bad" before her mother gave her up, did she at least try to get her daughter some help?
I know how easy it is to just give up! I am having my own issues with my stepson. I am constantly on guard to protect my other 3 kids from him. He was only 4 or 5 when he started inappropriately touching my son. Then I caught him doing it again about a year or two ago to my other 2 kids. He took a meat cleaver to our leather couches, he's kicked, hit, slapped, punched the kids as well. He spray painted a neighbor's boat AND egged their house. I can totally relate! I felt (feel) the same way you do. I know I don't love him like I should, but seriously! He has basically molested my children and I'm supposed to be forgiving of that??!!
Anyway, we put him in counseling and it has done wonders for him. He's been so much better and I am slowly starting to work on forgiving and loving him the way I'm supposed to.
There is no doubt in my mind that she has ADHD. I am living with ADHD child, and 3 other normal siblings, so I can smell ADHD from mile away: impulsive, no remorse, hyper, seeking attention, sometimes good one-on-one; bossy, etc.
50mg of Ritalin obviously did not work for her; so the next step is to either UP the dose or change the ADHD medication. You can spend a million dollars on therapy, spanking, taking away, etc. Nothing will work, because this is a pure chemical issue. Find her a right medicine with your pediatrician, psychiatrist (forget the psychologists!!!) - and you will have a transformed child!!!. Do not blame her mother - they are born that way.
Adhd does not smell. This very well could be other things and how you drew that conclusion that it is absolutely ADHD from this story I have no idea. I have a son with sensory integration disorder that has many of the behaviors of ADD/ADHD but treated differently. There are also mental health issues that can affect someone in this way. This poor poor child needs to be evaluated and given help.
What I think is the saddest thing about this is that this poor girl has had to move into this house. It wouldn't matter if this little girl were an angel as the poster said---- she doesn't want kids now, she did her time, yadda yadda yadda. Remeber the promise or she wouldn't have married her husband? So a girl with issues is in a place she didn't have a chance in anyway. I read a book recently that spoke of kids like this. It said that the rest of the world can be hateful and cruel to them so they really depend on their parents for love and support. What does this girl have? NOTHING. And for that, I am truly sorry.
I would totally disagree. her stepmother is doing everything in her power to introduce structure, love and keep sane at the same time. It amazes me how little people recognize the caregivers and what it takes to raise an ADHD child.
I have 4 children, and I love them endlessly. THe one with ADHD though, when he gets the best out of me - I sometimes seriously wonder about my love for him. He RUINS the family, the marriage and definitely the well being of his siblings. Yes, yes - he can't help it; but life WOULD be so much easier without him. Plain truth. To take somebody else's child that has ADHD, knowing what I know now? Let me put it this way - it would be like asking me to sell the self esteem and the childhood of my own children. No, thanks. We are all human. I will raise the one that I have to, and that's all.
Now - this was all IN DEFENSE OF THIS POOR Woman's feelings.
She has to get this child some professional help.
kss61 - try putting this child on some kind of medication. Trust me, the medication will have far less side effects, than the side effect of you abandoning her. You are the last thing obviously that is any good that she has. So you make it MANAGEABLE FOR YOU.
Thumbs up to you for even coming to this forum, and don't worry about negativism that is here. We feel YOUR pain.
I also raise a child with a delay. It wasn't that I responded to but the poster made several comments that made me feel sorry for the little girl. Anyway, this is an old post if you didn't see the date.
Well i must say i really felt your negativity jump off of the page and if i can feel it so intensely , you can bet your life on it this child does also..Yes i am sure this child does have some serious issues but if you accepted this child into your home then you must also accept that it is your responsibility to help with them ie, councilling..but you just seem to be eaten up with resentment..In regard to her coming into the bedroom... im dumbfounded how you see this as such bad behaviour.. it seems to me that she is craving some affection and understanding and that she may get something resembling that from her father. I understand that is so much harder to tolerate a childs 'bad' behaviour when they are not biologically yours and the fact that you have raised your children and were comfortable with your life..but you made the decision to let her into your family home and take on the responsibility of raising her so you really need to put your feelings aside and work at making a connection with her.. and if you cannot do this then maybe you should consider whether you are able to look after her at all...every child deserves to feel loved and wanted and from your post i feel this young girl is not getting that.
i am also going through the same thing but maybe a little worse because my significant other does not believe there is an mental issue.I have caught his 10 year old son hurting our puppies, hurting smaller kids such as 3 and 4 yrs old and stealing ,lying,and will cry and say it wasn't him just for his father,my mate,to believe him even after I told him I seen it,Im losing my battle and am planning my great escape...
Lots of words, tonns of negativity. Don't you think she feels it? I am with specialmom and syrie35 on this one. But, again, I am a weirdo that beleives that all people want love and acceptance. There are no "bad children". There are children that feel lost, different, due to environmental or genetic factors, what have you, and act out.
If the child "ruins" your marriage - you may want to start there, as to what you want from your marriage. I am not from around here, and many peopel seem to have oh-so-rosy-and-unrealistic expectations. About marriage, child rearing, etc.
I know its been a year and you prob wont check this but I treaten my daughter that I will send her to live with her dad since she can not seem to get with the program of our life only because she adores him so and she gives him no lip not questions she is a perfect angel when she is around her father and a wreck with me ............ So my point to you is maybe the mom felt this way that it would be easy for the dad and that maybe you should make the father do his part as well as love her the way a daddy's lil girl is supposed to be love this lil girl prob thought it would be great to be with dad but all dads are absent minded when it come to children and their needs ........... also I want to add that as much as she loves her dad and want to be with him she breaks down in fear and sadness at the thought of me sendind her away and not wanting her I had to apologize and I dont wanna say that to her anymore Ive been watchin nanny 911 for controling extreme behavior Im on day 1 of building a great relashionship with my daughter and loving her better
I have an 8 year old SD, and have been a part of her life since she was 3. I also have an 11 year old daughter of my own, and "we" (her dad/my husband) and I have a 3 year old son. Her mother decided to move to the California (we are in Hawaii), and essentially gave my husband full physical custody. It's been about 6 weeks now, and I'm ready to lose my mind! I've finally been able to get through to my husband, and remind him that she is 8, not 3. She was caught stealing from our friends 5 year old daughter three weeks ago. She hurts/says mean things to my 3 year old son. My 11 year old daughter hibernates in her bedroom to be away from SD. Two days ago, she brought home a letter from her teacher, informing us that she'd been in trouble at school for pulling other little girls hair in class. Today, we get a letter sent home because she and another boy were in trouble for spitting on each other in class. I'm exhausted! I've asked my husband to consider therapy for her, he initially got really upset, then disregarded the conversation. I sympathize for you! I feel the same way. It's sad, because I always get to play "the heartless/cold stepmom". It's not me....
The poor girl probably feels as if no one loves her she most likely feels left out. And btw I know of several children including my own that still play with dolls. The child needs one on one affection and constant love. Ask your self how u would act knowing your mommy didn't want you cuz she wanted to make her boyfriend happy by getting rid of you. Or knowing daddy is happy with his new family so maybe she feels as if she's not wanted and how you worded everything it actually sounds that you don't want her again another adult in her live that is "throwing her away"! The feeling if not being wanted Is enough to make anybody ( including yourself) act out irrationally and she wants attention but she ain't getting it so she is acting out to get any kind of attention possible even if your yelling at her that's still you giving her attention just negitive and she's willing to take any kind she can get. Marrying this guy you knew he had prior kids and there is always the possibility that you and your husband would have to take custody of this little girl you knew she existed before you said I do. So if you can't handle the heat of an 8 year old LITTLE girl that's crying out for positive loving reassuring attention then maybe it's time for you to pack your bags because this little girl wants to be loved and told she's pretty to she hears you say that to your granddaughter but not to her? She's 8 and already feels abandoned un loved unworthy of anyone's time cuz maybe she's scared that you and her father are going to so to speak throw her away also! When you have kids it's not about you anymore it's well should be 100% about the kids first find the root of the problem because she's still a kid and still needs love and affection in a positive manor! Don't mess this little girls life up by throwing her into protective custody if the state that's only going to mess with her and ruin her life every little girl needs a mom and hers threw her away very sad however that's where you should step in and give love in a positive way
I feel the pain here. I raised a son with textbook, classic ADHD and he was a delight to be around - he just couldn't focus and was quite disorganized. He still is a delight.
This isn't ADHD that's causing this girl to behave this way. ADHD is characterized by inability focus, and become organized, and also too much energy that makes kids run amuck a little and act impulsively.
The fact that 50 miligrams of ritalin couldn't pound this behavior out of her is proof positive - IMHO - that she doesn't have ADHD. Frankly, I've never heard of a daily dose that high - that's about 3 times the highest dose I've ever seen anyone taking daily. And it didn't make a difference.
I don't know what specific thing is being described here, but I've certainly seen it in kids! And I've never seen anything that "works" to change it.
This is an older post but I was also thinking that you're speaking quite harshly about an 8 yr old girl, who is a child, and she can feel your attitude towards her and that is making things worst. My eyes are filling up with tears as I type this becsause your step daughter needs love and help- she is not getting it. Your husband needs to be involved also and though I am not a big fan of medicating kids, maybe a child psychiatrist can diagnose something. Your family needs some structured and intense parenting, and it could be this girl has suffered some trauma and some psychological damage from her mother, the divorce, abandonment, etc. Something has made this 8 yr old this way- she didnt do it to herself. You and your husband cannot give up on her and it sounds like you two are doing just that. She is 8, seek some professional guidance with this child. If you feel this child is 'ruining' your marriage then you certainly are a part of the problem. i dont know what else to say here except this child needs compassion and some medical and professional help soon. She will not get better on her own.
spanking an 8 year old.. really?? You have no idea what you are talking about. Spanking is not what this child needs.. both you and the poster need to be more sympathetic to this child. This is an old post and I am reallly curious as to what has happened since.
I know im very late on this post but there's this thing called LOVE! you should try it, you speak so harshly of this child it is appalling no one seems to really want her she is hurting, if you were treated the way she has been I'm pretty you would act the same way. She's screaming on the inside that she feels she is unwanted an no matter what she does even good behavior she feels will go unnoticed so she acts out negatively I can guarantee you that well she was with her mother she had good behavior but was but off to the side an her mother couldn't bother with her b/c she was to busy being a flousy with men an to absorbed an wrapped up in her own world with men that she forgot about her child, there for had to make up a story to send her off to you an her dad etc an so the child now feels the only way someone will pay attention to her is if she acts bad.
I think if your in the USA You need to call me **************.
Sorry you have TEN LONG years of this ahead. I need to tell you this will not get any better. As,she gets older she will evolve into bigger and better ways to **** you off. She will become like a constant jack hammer of torment for you. Lies will be constant, passive defiance, open defiance. She will do ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO MAKE YOUR LIFE MISERABLE. IT IS A FACT THAT YOUR HUSBAND HAS YOU AND YOU ALONE RAISING A CHILD THAT WANTS TO MAKE YOUR LIFE A LIVING HELL. And , he helps her DO IT. He lets her get away with disrespecting you. He basically rewards her for treating you like crap. You blame the mother??? You better look REALLLLLLL close at what your step daughter does and how HER FATHER REACTS. You will /or are being made out to be the bad guy. You tell him the problems your having with SD, and he will or already tells you ( YOUR TOO HARD ON HER. ) or ( LEAVE HER ALONE ) Your SD may have or WILL see him yelling at you about her.... This gives her and shows her that SD has ALL THE POWER. Look what I can do I can get my dad mad at her LMAO. She may get really smart and act perfect everywhere but at home. Then by the time she enters middle school , everyone will think she a perfect child....... Teachers and the school will think your the crazy one. She gets good grades.... she doesn't look bad....... OMG Either did Ted Bundy the serial killer. He was pleasant , smart and did not look like a monster. Your husband will resent you for even bringing her up. GO FIGURE??? He won't want to be the one... the one to take her to counseling. He will tell you ( why do I have to do it? ) But your the crazy one, why do you not like the way she treats you , BUT HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE TREATED THIS WAY. As long as he doesn't hve to hear about it , see it, deal with it he will be ok, and he wants you to stop complaining. These will be the teen years. She see at this young age she can run the whole show. My step daughter is now 17 years old and I can't take it anymore. We found out she was using a cell phone during her high school classes to sex text, we read 2 years worth of Facebook crap, sex with 22 yr old's, drug use , drinking, stealing, going to her friends and running the streets all night drugging , having sex. Her friends mother allowed this and we had no idea. We grounded her OF COURSE, we took away her NEW PS3, and told her NO MORE FRIEND Who lets her drug, drink, sex. This was enough for her to run away. She was gone ten days then called her DAD , said " my boyfriend kicked me out I WON'T TELL YOU WHERE I AM, Dad you are going to let me live with my friend and her mom cause I will not come home ." her FATHER SAID" no way will you live with that friend...." SD then went to police dept. and told them we are abusing her , ( so , she can get out of his custody and into her friends mothers custody. CPS came to our house and the CPS women said " Your daughter wants to live with her friend." Are they all mad. I let the CPS women read some of the activities SD was being allowed to do at that friends house. Poor poor SD , You will hear that SD is the poor little thing, she gets good grades so the school won't care. You will find out there is NO punishment to get her to stop, and she will never ask to get off. If you ask her what punishment will get her to stop she will tell you , " can't think of anything.' As you get more and more tired of all this the harder she will try to make you crazy, it is like arm wrestling. She will never stop, never lose, she will try and break you. But this is hard because' YOU ARE A PARENT.' Your use to doing the right thing and not let your kids run the house. Your use to following thru with punishments or you will lose all control of the house. SD will defy you no matter what, and if she can get you in trouble with her father she most certainly will. She will lie, twist and turn and YOU ALREADY KNOW she enjoys it all. So, if you need to talk call me. JENNY
You've had but one unique experience. not fair to say everyone will have the same as you. And we do sometimes forget to think of things in terms of how the child to our partner must feel. Wish they'd post more with their point of view. You sound very bitter and that is a lot to carry around. I would recommend some therapy to sort out your emotions. good luck
Well, Her father refuses to talk to her anymore she still lives with him. He has not spoke one word to her since Feb 7th 2014. He's done......"he says." So, I guess I am the only one to call her down to eat. You see, she was not allowed to use the internet over a year ago. She was caught using a friends cell phone in her high school classes. It is against school policy for cell use during classes. She did not delete any Facebook messages for over a year. We preceded to read all the detailed messages. Her drinking, drug use, spice smoking, sex with 22 yr olds. Out all night riding buses to go to men's houses. All, this when she said she was sleeping over at her friends house.
So, of course she was grounded and we took her new PS3 away. Her response was to run away for 10 days. When she did finally call her father, she told him , " I am not coming home I am going to live with my friends mom. ( the mother I spoke to that informed me Yes, I let her do drugs and drink, and have sex with older men,) Her father said " Hell NO " He told her that Las Vegas Metro Police is looking for her. She turned herself in. She quickly found out she can not get emancipated with out a job and good reason. So, she told metro that her dad was abusing her. Now why would she wait 10 days to report that??? LOL Of course CPS showed up on our doorstep. And, the case worker stated" She is highly manipulative." LOL like we didn't know .LOL So , she ran away because she was grounded and we took her PS3 away. Her counselor has told her for 4 years she will get off restriction if she stops the behavior. So, the counselor keeps asking her if shes will stop. Her answer is always-(NO) Step daughters answer is to keep doing the bad behavior and when she gets in trouble- just run away. After this last run away episode her father is finally done. CPS of course found nothing wrong with our parenting. We just do not want our daughter doing drugs , alcohol, sex texting with men, running the streets all night.
As, far as the women I commented on: I see the mirror refection of her situation , which is the same things we went thru . But, heck I am stupid I have never had any children over 5 yrs old... I have 30 , 27, 18 , 17 15, yr olds. But I do not know about any kids. Hers ituation mirrored mine so I think I have some experience since WE HAVE LIVED IT. I wish I was a information as to what I COULD be in for in the future. I am sure the women has also gotten many different perspectives that will also be very helpful.
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