My friends, we have systemic fungal infection which has spread all over our bodies. If we don't take care of repairing our leaky guts, we will re-infect ourselves. We have to stick to a strict diet as other members have suggested.
One excellent source for repairing leaky gut is bone broth. You can make it or you can buy it already made. I suggest making it fresh. Google bone broth and you will get many videos on how to make it.
I'm on my 10th day of my treatment I'm still suffering splitting headaches. The following are symptoms that are normal when taking this medication.
Symptoms of Yeast Die-Off:
Fatigue
Nausea
Headaches
Muscle pain
Chills
Sweating
Swollen glands
Constipation or diarrhea
Faster than normal heartbeat
Acne or other skin breakouts such as whiteheads
Gas and/or bloating
Dizziness
Itchy skin with or without a rash
Sneezing
Fever
Cravings for sugary and yeast-based foods
Yesterday, I thought I was going to pass out because of the die-offs.
Just want to let you know that I'm going thru this treatment cause I pretty much tried everything. Nothing has worked for me but this. Even though I feel like my head is going to blow up, I'm PATM free. Having said that, if I don't stick to a strict diet and repair my leaky gut then it's obvious PATM will come back.
If your going to take this treatment, you have to repair your leaky gut or you will be sorely disappointed.
We have to attack PATM at its root cause which is candida Albicans. This treatment does just that, just keep in mind that there is 19 known different types of fungus Albicans known to infect the human body. Depending on which you have, this treatment might not work for you.
The 5 Stages of Candida Overgrowth
Candida is a fungus that is found in small amounts in healthy intestines. It is also a form of yeast. Certain medications, including antibiotics, and foods can cause this yeast to grow too abundantly. This can cause painful cramping, thrush, yeast infections, and a long list of other symptoms.
Candida grows in stages but can remain hidden through some of these stages.
The five stages of candida overgrowth.
How to get rid of candida.
Recognizing when the yeast is dying off.
Anti-fungal supplements to try.
A diet to control candida growth.
Five Stages of Candida Over-Growth
When candida yeast is growing too abundantly, stage one includes painful PMS.
Stage One
Affects the mucous membranes of the body, including the mouth, nose, vagina, and respiratory system. Symptoms include:
Infant colic, childhood and adult unexplained anger/rages
Vaginal yeast infections
Severe PMS
Urinary tract infections
Body rashes
Difficulty falling or staying asleep
Eczema
Acne
Oral thrush
Allergies to foods, chemicals, dust, fungus, yeast, and/or molds
Recurrent bouts of bronchitis, sinusitis, tonsillitis, strep, or staph infections
Gas (infant or adult)
Bad breath and body odor
Bladder weakness
Sun spots or liver spots
Cravings for sugar and/or alcohol
Belching
Heartburn
During stage two of candida over-growth, ear infections and tinnitus are common symptoms.
During stage two of candida over-growth, ear infections and tinnitus are common symptoms.
Stage Two
Involves more generalized and chronic reactions. Symptoms of stage two include those of stage one, as well as:
Unexplained weight gain or inability to keep weight on
Ear infections or tinnitus (ringing in the ears)
Chronic muscle and joint pain and arthritis
Headaches (including migraine)
Fatigue
Fibromyalgia
Infant or adult reflux
Endometriosis
Dizziness/vertigo
Bladder infection/UTI’s
Stage Three
At this stage, an individual's behavior and mental health will be affected. All symptoms that belonged to stages one and two are also present during stage three, as well as:
Inability to concentrate
Serious forgetfulness
Memory loss
Mental confusion
Not being able to think of words
Switching around words and letters when trying to speak and/or write
Loss of previous skills (such as how to type or play piano)
Irrational thoughts, unusual fears, phobias, and panic/anxiety attacks
Muscle twitching
Violence, depression, and aggression
Epileptic seizures
Infertility
Irritable Bowel Syndrome
Diabetes
Hypoglycemia
Thyroid disorders
Stage Four
Also known as "systemic yeast," this stage can result in the shut-down of some organs and systems, including these symptoms:
Adrenal gland failure
Endocrine system failure
Severe constipation
Total muscle weakness
Hives
Stage Five
Sadly, at this stage the entire body, down to every cell, is effected. At this stage the organs shut down and the individual may die.
Is it some type of probiotic or what? Sometimes I wish people on this board would stop being so vague and ambiguous in their posts.
what is the medication you are taking?
Hi, Ray. When you receive lufenuron coughing around you stopped? I am from Russia and ordered the drug. Really I want to try, as the other tools do not work. From diet only grow thin and RATM increases. Thank you for sharing.
I have the electric shock too but it comes and goes and when it comes I get upset.
PATM Members,
I'm on my last 2 weeks of my treatment and I'm still 100% PATM free. I think this might finally get rid of PATM for good. Still have my fingers crossed.
The true test will come when in a few months when I'm not taking this treatment anymore.
Members talk about taking this taking that but they don't really explain in detail the science and the health benefits behind it all. Here are some tips that members have suggested in the past but did not really explain why!
Here are some simple ways you can start detoxing your body by making simple additions your diet.
Take An Epsom Salt Bath
The skin is our biggest organ and it is responsible for a hefty portion of toxin elimination.
Epsom salt baths are great for pulling toxins out of the body through reverse osmosis, leaving your skin silky smooth. The salts also provide the body with a nice big dose of magnesium which helps relax the nervous system and soothe back pain and achy muscles.
Make sure to use pure epsom salts, also known as magnesium sulphate. None of this artificially scented stuff. Rule of thumb, if you can’t eat it, don’t put it on your skin. Same goes for moisturizers and creams, if you wouldn’t put it in your mouth, don’t put it on your body. A great alternative for moisturizer is coconut oil.
If you want to add a nice scent to your bath, use a few drops of essential oils. Citrus oils are especially great for detoxing the liver.
Use about a cup and a half of epson salts in your bath and stay in the tub for about 40 minutes. Twenty minutes for the toxin flush and twenty minutes for the mineral absorption.
Massage Yourself
The lymphatic system helps the body remove toxins and wastes. Many times this drainage system can get backed up because it doesn’t have a pump system and needs some manual help.
Professional lymph drain massage is pretty pricey but you can save your money and do it to yourself. This type of massage is very simple and gentle. You use your fingertips and apply the same amount of pressure as you would to move a quarter across a desk.
You slowly press and stroke the lymph node areas of your body: the throat, the neck, the arms, underarms, chest, and upper thighs. Always going towards the heart.
You can do this while watching a movie or while you lie in bed waiting to fall asleep. Just 3 minutes a day can make a huge difference.
Click here for a quick video on how to do a basic lymph massage on yourself.
Also massage in general is a great way to manually influence nutrient and waste exchange in your cells. Exchange weekly 10 minute head, back, neck, or foot massages with your partner, family members or friends. You don’t need a fancy spa to get the great benefits of a massage.
And the last one for today is probably the most simple detox methods of all time.
Breathe
Breathing is a major way of releasing toxins. About 70% of your body’s waste product is eliminated through the lungs.
Try this out for size. Every time you go to check your phone for the time, or an email, or to use one of your fancy apps on your iphone, take a long deep inhale through the nose and long deep exhale out the nose. About 4-8 seconds in and 4-8 seconds out, using 100% capacity of your lungs.
Most of us are only using 10-20% of our lung capacity in our day to day activities. By using more of your lung capacity you take in more oxygen which allows you to deliver more nutrients throughout your body and release more toxins. And as an added bonus this deep breathing technique drastically lowers stress hormone levels.
Become conscious of your breathe and try to incorporate this type of breathing when ever you can: in bed first thing in the morning and last thing at night, during commercial breaks while watching TV, at your desk at work, or waiting for the bus.
You can literally breathe anywhere. No excuses.
Lufenuron does not work for electrical type of PATM...I bought some from a supplier in Europe a couple of years ago and it did nothing for my set of symptoms
Has anyone taken the oral diamatacious earth 1x day??
Then instead of taking that dangerous toxic flea med take a spoonful of diamatascious earth -- oral only not outdoor one
Same but safer it's an exoskeleton killer
Please don't criticize me for doing this but as you know everybody that has suffered from this horrible disease, called PATM, is very desperate and desperate measures require desperate acts. Research it yourself to see if it's something you want to try yourself.
I'm going to give you some info first before you even think about trying it or maybe some of you have already tried it.
1. It has not been approved by the FDA for human consumption even though people use it all the time around the world.
2. Doctors have gone out of their way to say it's extremely dangerous. That's why I'm trying it first. (Maybe it's biting into their profit)
3. I know that it is an inert chemical when humans consume it and it has no affect to the vital organs.
4. It's only supposed to be used on mammals which we are a part of.
5. If you do decide to use it, buy the type that is meant for human consumption and not the animal grade. (Very dangerous)
6. Don't buy cheap brands that could have heavy metals or be contaminated with by-products.
7. Drink plenty of water when taking it to lessen the die-offs.
8. You have to take with some type of fat, whether it's beef or chicken etc.. It gets absorbed into the fat cells of our body and gets slowly released for up to six weeks.
9. I bought mine from a certain supplier in Thailand but they were not the cheapest but had good feed back from previous customers.
10. It is not a guarantee that you will be cured from PATM because it could come back and re-infect you if you don't take care of yourself.
11. Look at testimonials of people on YouTube that have taken it and you be the judge. (None of them mentioned PATM)
12. I personally think it's much to soon to come to conclusions because I have only taking it for 20 days but members are insisting that I give out the name.
It's called Lufenuron and it's made by a huge pharmaceutical company in Sweden or Switzerland. They had a patient on the drug for many years until just recently it ran out.
PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH and YouTube it. You will find many informative videos on YouTube.
Good luck and God Bless you all.
Hello Grateful,
I'm convinced that if I don't heal my leaky gut, I will re-infect my body with fungus Albicans.
I don't suffer from explosive headaches anymore, just a mild headache here and there. I'm still 20 days from finishing my treatment. I have also been doing the GAPS diet.
We will see if PATM stays away.
One good way to find out if you have candida overgrowth is to get a 6 oz glass of clear water first thing in the morning. Work up a spit before eating or brushing your teeth. Spit in the cup and observe the spit for 15 minutes. If it is murky or cloudy and it starts to sink to the bottom of the glass, then you have candida overgrowth. The spit will also kind of string out to the bottom of the glass.
If the spit is clear and it floats at the top then I would be pretty confident that candida overgrowth doesn't exist.
This is just a quick inexpensive way of finding out what your condition concerning candida overgrowth. Also, a white tongue first thing in the morning would also indicate that you candida overgrowth.
Try it, it will not cost you anything but a few minutes of your time.
RAY2502
update us please on how you are doing with the bone broth
I bought protein bone broth powder , so far so good for me
God Bless all !
Yes, could you tell us the medication you are using Ray? I understand you talk about bone broth just as a good repairing for leaky gut
My friends, I know that all we all want is to have is our lives back, enjoying being with the people we love but we have to be patient.
I'm on my 12th day of my 45 day treatment and still PATM free. My headaches have subsided and I have noticed that my bowels have these white specks. I have also noticed them being cloudy white. (Sorry from being so graphic)
Several months back I was diagnosed with having very low stomach acid. Doctor said to chew my food 20 times before swallowing to eliminate low stomach acid. There is some over the counter meds that I can take but instead I rather do it naturally and chew my food. What does low stomach acid have to do with PATM? Well, the mouth is where it all begins. If we don't have enough hydrochloric acid then we cannot break food down properly and low stomach acid does not kill bacteria or microbes that are present in food.
It's partially our fault that we are in the predicament that we are in because of our harmful decisions and bad habits. If we don't change, we will continue suffering for many more years to come.
Have a blessed Thanksgiving and I will report back in a couple of days.
God bless.
I hope the bone broth idea helps people. I tried it and it did not help (I have the "electrical" type of PATM, I don't think Ray has that type, not sure)...but even it it doesn't help the PATM, it is a good source of nutrients...
I thought Ray was going to tell us about a pharmaceutical he was getting from India (see his thread a few days before this one)...While the diet, etc. is helpful, it does not eradicate the source of the problem, and in my case, diet alone will not diminish the PATM effect as dramatically as it has for others, in fact, it I would say it only helped me maybe 10% versus 90% or so that others have experienced. I was on the SIBO diet called Specific Carb Diet for about two years, SCD diet is very strict, anti-yeast/carb diet, and I lost so much weight I was a walking skeleton. I decided that if I was going to offend people I might as well not look like the walking dead. I watch my diet now (no white sugar, limited carbs, clear booze) and attack this thing from a different angle---try to get rid of it, not just placate it.
The drug I thought maybe Ray was referring to is Amphotericin-B. I have tried all the other anti-fungals that can be prescribed in the U.S., prescribed from an M.D. because I have high fungal counts for 4 types of molds: two types of aspergillus, penicilium, and cladosporium. Nothing helped. In my case I can vouch that all of the regular prescription anti-fungals: ketoconzaole, fluconazole, itraconazole, etc. (plus all all the over-the-counter ones) did not work. The -azole class of antifungals was ineffective in my case.
Amphotericin-B is an antifungal that is not in the -azole class. I obtained it from overseas, as it is impossible to get in the U.S. due to that it has to be injected to work systematically. I am not willing to inject it, but it can work topically as well (like Nystatin does...nystatin too weak to do anything though).
It has not eliminated the problem, even though I feel it w
"working" when I apply it, as I believe that I am re-infecting myself with something in my environment at home, specifically the kitchen. I have had professionals look at the problem (air samples in kitchen), they found an elevated cladosporium count but said that is normal, since there is a lot of clado outside normally that comes in through the kitchen door and windows. Of course, I have tried to control the problem with throwing out everything, running air purifiers, etc.
Anyway, I believe this not just fungal but a combo of fungal and bacterial. If it were just fungal, more people would have PATM.
Topical ampho (especially on scalp...it even reaches the sinuses that way) may be of benefit to others, especially those with the electrical type of PATM, but of course I am not recommending that anybody try it, you have to make that decision for yourself.
Ray that's outstanding!!!
I've heard of bone broth helping cure leaky gut but never went out of my way to try it. Iv done research on this and all the info I have found is all positive. Dr. axe a famous doctor of natural medicine sais he has done many cleanses in his life but nothing compares to the bone broth cleanse. In my 10+ years of living with PATM I have no doubt in my mind that this problem is gut related. Imbalance of gut flora and leaky gut. Can't wait to try this!
Did you use chicken or beef bone broth? Also where did you purchase the bones?
Anyways thanks for sharing this info with us I'm forever greatful. Hopefully people start reporting their results. Happy thanks giving everyone and take care.
RAY2502 Excellent!!!
thank you, thank you for letting us know about bone broth
i will go to Whole Foods and get some
like patmhalp - I also take the desiccated liver capsules daily
Thank you soooo much for stressing the need to be on a strict food diet in order to repair our leaky gut or else the Patm will return - as I found out in the past as well
Happy Thanksgiving everyone and enjoy the blessing that Ray2502 has shared with us !
Hey Ray I'm glad for your new discovery. I'm doing pretty well myslef but still haven't managed to cure this completely. I really hope you share your discovery with us because in doing so we can have more people try what your doing and determine if this is the cure. I'm sure everyone here will appreciate your hard work and dedication.
That sounds like some serious stuff ur taking. Hope u get the results u are lookin for. I got rid of 90% of my symptoms by changing my diet, and exercising like a madman.
Thank you so much for posting this on the forum ray. This is glimmer of hope we need to keep positive and it would be amazing for this to be another step closer to ending this curse. Please share whatever details you are comfortable with.
This is not some sort of magic pill that you can take and wala your cured.
It has taken me decades to get to this point. I have followed other members advice and even though I'm grateful, it did not help me to get rid of PATM.
I have thought I was cured in the past only to be discouraged when patm came back. I do not want to misinform or mislead anybody, that's why I'm being careful and not jump to conclusions.
I'm on my 5th day of my treatment and I've had nothing but massive headaches due to die-offs. These are following changes that I have noticed in my body.
1. No PATM reactions.
2. My nose is not stuffy or congested.
3. I can eat dairy and sugar without getting bloated or have PATM reactions. (tried it a couple of times)
4. Don't have that nasty awful smell in my mouth after eating dairy.
I have not seen anything in my bowel movements but just to reiterate i have never experienced this with any supplements that I have taking since I have been a PATM member on this sight.
Please have patience because I have to make sure that this will work.
I will keep you guys updated.
God bless....