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People Are Allergic To Me (PATM)
People are allergic to me. And a lot of other people around the world are suffering from this condition. Doctors do not beleive the reports, and most of them claim that we are crazy but we all know that we're far from being crazy. This condition causes so much heartache and stress. I have sent emails to CDC, NIH and WHO with no help. Would you please address this issue?
Hey grateful2011, you said you take digestive enzymes and it helps. My experience with digestive enzymes is that it makes my patm almost 20 folds. I question whether we all have the same problem or not. I had tried stopping them for short periods and then start all over again but the same effects were observed. So I stopped completely.
I was astonished when you stated that digestive enzymes assisted you with your patm problem. I can’t help thinking about the possibility that we are sufferers with different conditions but with overlapping or similar symptoms. The other possibility is that you and I are trying out different enzymes. I tried it years ago without any luck. Therefore, can you please tell me what kind of digestive enzymes you’re taking? I don’t intend for it to cure me as I know it won’t but I am optimistic that the brand you use will at least not worsen my patm but help out with my digestion. I’m having very bad indigestion recently and it’s very uncomfortable.
If I remember correctly, the digestive enzymes I tried were for milk contents such as lactose though I recall clearly the horrific experiences that came with it. It was as if several clones of me were in one room. While it helped my digestion and the sleepiness went away, I had to give it up because my mates were sick as hell. Normally they’d tolerate coughing and sneezing for long periods but not when I was on digestion enzymes. It was a nightmare. They couldn’t stand a minute. Even my parents who usually don’t show any signs were coughing violently. Their frequent visit to the doctor only said they had common flu..lol. But as soon as I stopped the enzymes, they recovered few days later. After a few weeks I would try and the same effect reoccurred. I tried that that about 4 times in a row and concluded it wasn’t a very good idea.
But the experiences have helped me to gather data to suggest many hypotheses about patm and where I should be heading on my research if I am to continue on that path. But for now I need to stay calm and take things one at a time if I’m to reach my goal.
@jn4357 – good idea but it can’t work because you have no patm patient VOCs profile to compare to. Going through each and every VOCs is really the same as looking for a needle in a haystack. There’s a possibility for researches to ignore a particular VOC that has no relevancy to the purpose of the experiment. But if one of us is doing it, each and every VOC is a possibility and we don’t want to miss it. But that means it will be a difficult and long task prone to errors because there could be more than a thousand VOCs in one’s own sample.
Currently there is no chemist among us and to really look deep into the properties of each molecule, you’d need at least a postgraduate chemist with extensive lab experience. The best opportunity for anyone thinking of solving patm once and for all is to study all the way to university -> take biology/chemistry/biochemistry major -> use college tools to take VOCs profile of his own sample and compare to VOC profiles of others. For high-school graduate with good math, biology and chemistry background, it could take about 3-5 years of full-time courses to get there.
I’m a minor so I’m taking one course at a time or I can just drop it so the progress is really slow. It could take years at the rate I’m going.
I’d say 99% if done properly will reveal what patm is. Are you a student or graduate in any area of science?
I was astonished when you stated that digestive enzymes assisted you with your patm problem. I can’t help thinking about the possibility that we are sufferers with different conditions but with overlapping or similar symptoms. The other possibility is that you and I are trying out different enzymes. I tried it years ago without any luck. Therefore, can you please tell me what kind of digestive enzymes you’re taking? I don’t intend for it to cure me as I know it won’t but I am optimistic that the brand you use will at least not worsen my patm but help out with my digestion. I’m having very bad indigestion recently and it’s very uncomfortable.
If I remember correctly, the digestive enzymes I tried were for milk contents such as lactose though I recall clearly the horrific experiences that came with it. It was as if several clones of me were in one room. While it helped my digestion and the sleepiness went away, I had to give it up because my mates were sick as hell. Normally they’d tolerate coughing and sneezing for long periods but not when I was on digestion enzymes. It was a nightmare. They couldn’t stand a minute. Even my parents who usually don’t show any signs were coughing violently. Their frequent visit to the doctor only said they had common flu..lol. But as soon as I stopped the enzymes, they recovered few days later. After a few weeks I would try and the same effect reoccurred. I tried that that about 4 times in a row and concluded it wasn’t a very good idea.
But the experiences have helped me to gather data to suggest many hypotheses about patm and where I should be heading on my research if I am to continue on that path. But for now I need to stay calm and take things one at a time if I’m to reach my goal.
@jn4357 – good idea but it can’t work because you have no patm patient VOCs profile to compare to. Going through each and every VOCs is really the same as looking for a needle in a haystack. There’s a possibility for researches to ignore a particular VOC that has no relevancy to the purpose of the experiment. But if one of us is doing it, each and every VOC is a possibility and we don’t want to miss it. But that means it will be a difficult and long task prone to errors because there could be more than a thousand VOCs in one’s own sample.
Currently there is no chemist among us and to really look deep into the properties of each molecule, you’d need at least a postgraduate chemist with extensive lab experience. The best opportunity for anyone thinking of solving patm once and for all is to study all the way to university -> take biology/chemistry/biochemistry major -> use college tools to take VOCs profile of his own sample and compare to VOC profiles of others. For high-school graduate with good math, biology and chemistry background, it could take about 3-5 years of full-time courses to get there.
I’m a minor so I’m taking one course at a time or I can just drop it so the progress is really slow. It could take years at the rate I’m going.
I’d say 99% if done properly will reveal what patm is. Are you a student or graduate in any area of science?
If anyone is in or around London and would like to meet up, leave an message or pm.
I am from nepal
Where are you located my friend?
I have been doing some research and found a really great article on volatiles from “healthy” human bodies. It has an extensive list of 1840 VOC’s which have been identified in urine, feces, skin, breath, saliva, milk and blood.
What I was thinking is maybe we could all work together and try to go through the list of VOC’s and compile a condensed list of possible VOC’s that maybe causing patm. I know that the list is from a healthy human population however if we can find the right VOC that matches the symptoms and reactions we are experiencing; we could be a step closer to figuring out what’s wrong with us. It could be a compound that is normally produced in healthy humans however for us we might be producing above normal levels. What’s great about the list is it identifies which compounds are present in the 7 categories listed above.
We know that patm is coming from our skin and breath. It has been noted that after eating patm becomes worse so that means whatever we’re eating is not being digested properly and therefore it may get absorbed into our gut --> blood -->released via skin and lungs (breath). To add in the past people have said that exercising helps to lessen patm which is likely related to sweating from exercising as it releases the compound from our body –meaning it is in our skin/blood. I don’t think we need to focus on feces, milk and saliva but perhaps urine maybe interesting to look at. My theory is if we focus on blood, skin and breath it may or may not lead us to the answer.
Here are some other things I have observed to be true about patm....many say it is an allergy which I agree, as an allergy is a foreign invader that the body does not recognize. I believe it is an irritant which comes across with allergy like symptoms, also effects CNS.
One thing I noticed before even knowing I had patm, was my nose was suddenly unbelievably dry almost burning at one time, I even used petroleum jelly with no resolution. I have noticed others around me rub there noses, sneeze, even heard a girl say her nose was burning and people complaining of the air being dry. This irritant likely has a drying effect explaining why my lips, nose are so dry and thirsty. When your mucous membranes become dry, it makes you more vulnerable to elements like dust which trigger people to sneeze and perhaps the irritant itself as well. The other thing I have noticed is complaints of sore throat, again this irritant likely has a drying effect which causes throat/mouth to become dry and trigger a cough that’s why people will take a lozenge or something to drink. Dry eyes and rubbing also observed. Another complaint is mugginess/stuffy air, causing people to have difficulty breathing and feeling tired as the compound is probably displacing O2 in the air or just overwhelming. That’s why people yawn too, as some theories believe yawning is a way for your brain/body to get air. Other peculiar symptoms are body aches, headaches and even malaise (and many more). Important to note, for me anyways this irritant does NOT have an odor, if it does it maybe a pleasant or mild odor which is why people don’t say anything.
The plan would be to go thru the list of VOC’s present in breath, blood and skin and find any matching side effects and symptoms (as listed above) to those compounds. Information about a compound being part of a metabolic pathway in our body would be a gold mine as it will help to support our claims. It could even be linked to a type of bacteria or virus as well.
Here’s the link of the article which includes supplementary data ---which will need to be downloaded. Main focus would be looking at Table 1.
http://iopscience.iop.org/1752-7163/8/1/014001/media
Table 1 is listed alphabetically, so someone could cover all compounds under A, another would do B etc. again focusing on compounds present in only breath, skin, blood...you could do all categories if you like. If you’re interested please send me a message to my inbox via medhelp.
What I was thinking is maybe we could all work together and try to go through the list of VOC’s and compile a condensed list of possible VOC’s that maybe causing patm. I know that the list is from a healthy human population however if we can find the right VOC that matches the symptoms and reactions we are experiencing; we could be a step closer to figuring out what’s wrong with us. It could be a compound that is normally produced in healthy humans however for us we might be producing above normal levels. What’s great about the list is it identifies which compounds are present in the 7 categories listed above.
We know that patm is coming from our skin and breath. It has been noted that after eating patm becomes worse so that means whatever we’re eating is not being digested properly and therefore it may get absorbed into our gut --> blood -->released via skin and lungs (breath). To add in the past people have said that exercising helps to lessen patm which is likely related to sweating from exercising as it releases the compound from our body –meaning it is in our skin/blood. I don’t think we need to focus on feces, milk and saliva but perhaps urine maybe interesting to look at. My theory is if we focus on blood, skin and breath it may or may not lead us to the answer.
Here are some other things I have observed to be true about patm....many say it is an allergy which I agree, as an allergy is a foreign invader that the body does not recognize. I believe it is an irritant which comes across with allergy like symptoms, also effects CNS.
One thing I noticed before even knowing I had patm, was my nose was suddenly unbelievably dry almost burning at one time, I even used petroleum jelly with no resolution. I have noticed others around me rub there noses, sneeze, even heard a girl say her nose was burning and people complaining of the air being dry. This irritant likely has a drying effect explaining why my lips, nose are so dry and thirsty. When your mucous membranes become dry, it makes you more vulnerable to elements like dust which trigger people to sneeze and perhaps the irritant itself as well. The other thing I have noticed is complaints of sore throat, again this irritant likely has a drying effect which causes throat/mouth to become dry and trigger a cough that’s why people will take a lozenge or something to drink. Dry eyes and rubbing also observed. Another complaint is mugginess/stuffy air, causing people to have difficulty breathing and feeling tired as the compound is probably displacing O2 in the air or just overwhelming. That’s why people yawn too, as some theories believe yawning is a way for your brain/body to get air. Other peculiar symptoms are body aches, headaches and even malaise (and many more). Important to note, for me anyways this irritant does NOT have an odor, if it does it maybe a pleasant or mild odor which is why people don’t say anything.
The plan would be to go thru the list of VOC’s present in breath, blood and skin and find any matching side effects and symptoms (as listed above) to those compounds. Information about a compound being part of a metabolic pathway in our body would be a gold mine as it will help to support our claims. It could even be linked to a type of bacteria or virus as well.
Here’s the link of the article which includes supplementary data ---which will need to be downloaded. Main focus would be looking at Table 1.
http://iopscience.iop.org/1752-7163/8/1/014001/media
Table 1 is listed alphabetically, so someone could cover all compounds under A, another would do B etc. again focusing on compounds present in only breath, skin, blood...you could do all categories if you like. If you’re interested please send me a message to my inbox via medhelp.
hi guys after long time I am here still I am suffering from the patm still lots of people cough now my condition is so bad I am same like a homeless I don't have anything my life I lost everything I am reject from my family who help us actually I don't understand
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