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People Are Allergic To Me (PATM)
People are allergic to me. And a lot of other people around the world are suffering from this condition. Doctors do not beleive the reports, and most of them claim that we are crazy but we all know that we're far from being crazy. This condition causes so much heartache and stress. I have sent emails to CDC, NIH and WHO with no help. Would you please address this issue?
No, we need to stay on this th read, its the main one. Once people know u cause reactions, they will sometimes overreact to hurt you, i have two cousins who do it all the time . When my boyfriend is mad at me he overreact too, to hurt me
I found your response extremely insightful. I am just trying to understand what is going on, because people have been coughing, sniffing and clearing their throats around me FAR too frequently in the past nine months for it to be reducible to social intimidation. I just can’t believe that many people are so pathetic. That is why I agree with you that it may be a mixture of the two. In that sense, I am willing to admit that I may have been wrong about it being reducible to social intimidation, but, in my case, denying that something else is wrong would be extremely foolish. I don't think we can rule out the possibility that I do have PATM.
@freeland1924
I was not trying to claim that anyone was imagining things. And what I am going through may not be 100% identical with what you are experiencing, but in the past nine months people HAVE been sniffing and coughing around me unusually frequently. I certainly did not intend to hurt anyone’s feelings, as the coughing and sniffing has had quite a devastating effect on me. My housemate’s girlfriend’s was coughing violently, almost as if she was going to die. And I have people who cough, sniff and clear their throats around me everywhere I go. Even if, as you have hinted at, I am not a PATM sufferer myself, I am suffering and am suffering because people cough, sniff and clear their throats everywhere I go. I cannot get away from it. So I would ask that you not imply that I am imagining things. I have not lied about my experiences. If that was not your intention, I apologize in advance.
And by the way, I am not sceptical about PATM. I am simply trying to understand why, for the past nine months, people have been coughing, sniffing and clearing their throats everywhere I go, so that I can ultimately stop it from happening.
@ray2502
Please read what I have said above to freeland1924. I have had people who do not have people coughing, sniffing and clearing their throats around them everywhere I go tell me that they know what it feels like, which they do not, so I would never try and do the same to somebody else. I do not believe you are suffering from a psychological or mental illness, but neither am I, and that is what people have claimed about me, saying that, because I have truthfully claimed that people cough, sniff and clear their throat around me, I suffer from OCD and paranoia. My uncle and wife by marriage also coughed and cleared their throats around me recently, and did so repeatedly, but never did so prior to my nine month nightmare. There have also been other people who never repeatedly coughed, sniffed or cleared their throats around me do so in the past nine months.
@freeland1924
I was not trying to claim that anyone was imagining things. And what I am going through may not be 100% identical with what you are experiencing, but in the past nine months people HAVE been sniffing and coughing around me unusually frequently. I certainly did not intend to hurt anyone’s feelings, as the coughing and sniffing has had quite a devastating effect on me. My housemate’s girlfriend’s was coughing violently, almost as if she was going to die. And I have people who cough, sniff and clear their throats around me everywhere I go. Even if, as you have hinted at, I am not a PATM sufferer myself, I am suffering and am suffering because people cough, sniff and clear their throats everywhere I go. I cannot get away from it. So I would ask that you not imply that I am imagining things. I have not lied about my experiences. If that was not your intention, I apologize in advance.
And by the way, I am not sceptical about PATM. I am simply trying to understand why, for the past nine months, people have been coughing, sniffing and clearing their throats everywhere I go, so that I can ultimately stop it from happening.
@ray2502
Please read what I have said above to freeland1924. I have had people who do not have people coughing, sniffing and clearing their throats around them everywhere I go tell me that they know what it feels like, which they do not, so I would never try and do the same to somebody else. I do not believe you are suffering from a psychological or mental illness, but neither am I, and that is what people have claimed about me, saying that, because I have truthfully claimed that people cough, sniff and clear their throat around me, I suffer from OCD and paranoia. My uncle and wife by marriage also coughed and cleared their throats around me recently, and did so repeatedly, but never did so prior to my nine month nightmare. There have also been other people who never repeatedly coughed, sniffed or cleared their throats around me do so in the past nine months.
I don’t question your skepticism about patm as I wouldn’t have believed it either if I didn’t have this condition. I remember very well the happy times when I was a top student in my school and never knew there’s a terrible condition called patm out there. Ever since patm struck me, things had gone down turmoil. It was only lately that I’ve started to rebuild my life back to normal.
Nonetheless, I question your daring to put forth an outrageous claim that we are imagining these things while you have zero proof to support your claim. You’ve never carried out any experiment whatsoever nor met a patmer yourself but you think you can just understand people’s problems, which you’ve never experienced, by just self-evaluation.
I also question your understanding of basic science to even make such a bold claim.
There’s one thing I’ve learnt from you. It’s the important lesson of never to jump into conclusion about other people’s problem until you experience it or at least carry out proper experimentation to prove its legitimacy or not. Sometimes we look at other people’s problems from a million miles away and think we understand it so start condemning but only to find out later that we’re wrong but have demoralize and hurt many sufferers’ feelings by our own ignorant criticism.
I’ve been trying to find videos of people going into a coughing fit and choking into a handkerchief at the same time but haven’t found any. The following two is the closest I can find but I can easily observe the two women occasionally make it worse than it really is.
When my patm started years ago, typically within 30 mins, other students would be coughing like this. By the next day they’d all be coughing choking around me. Third day, there’d an empty 6-10 seat radius around me. I had to endure that for years wherever I go. The good thing they don’t usually know what caused their sickness and only learn from repetitive occurrences. I’m one of those patmers who has zero bodily odors, a breath that smells like candy rose always so I’m never worried about odors of any kind. Am no kidding on that part! I smell good all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pKcVoVqCwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7GiJUai4ZU
Nonetheless, I question your daring to put forth an outrageous claim that we are imagining these things while you have zero proof to support your claim. You’ve never carried out any experiment whatsoever nor met a patmer yourself but you think you can just understand people’s problems, which you’ve never experienced, by just self-evaluation.
I also question your understanding of basic science to even make such a bold claim.
There’s one thing I’ve learnt from you. It’s the important lesson of never to jump into conclusion about other people’s problem until you experience it or at least carry out proper experimentation to prove its legitimacy or not. Sometimes we look at other people’s problems from a million miles away and think we understand it so start condemning but only to find out later that we’re wrong but have demoralize and hurt many sufferers’ feelings by our own ignorant criticism.
I’ve been trying to find videos of people going into a coughing fit and choking into a handkerchief at the same time but haven’t found any. The following two is the closest I can find but I can easily observe the two women occasionally make it worse than it really is.
When my patm started years ago, typically within 30 mins, other students would be coughing like this. By the next day they’d all be coughing choking around me. Third day, there’d an empty 6-10 seat radius around me. I had to endure that for years wherever I go. The good thing they don’t usually know what caused their sickness and only learn from repetitive occurrences. I’m one of those patmers who has zero bodily odors, a breath that smells like candy rose always so I’m never worried about odors of any kind. Am no kidding on that part! I smell good all the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pKcVoVqCwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7GiJUai4ZU
thanks for that. I was just going to say that...but I have something else in mind. I notice how youtube put comments and replies underneath as a branch. It makes it easy to scroll through comments. I know it's not so easy to implement such interface right away but perhaps medhelp developers might like to know feedback from users for future development. thank you.
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I should add that a new thread would load much more quickly than this one does. Hope this helps.
Claire
I should add that a new thread would load much more quickly than this one does. Hope this helps.
Claire
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@ Ranciere, your idea falls apart if you also take the following fact into account. If you go back and read through the forum you’ll see many reports of patmers using “metronidazole”, a very strong antibiotic. Patm simply disappears completely for about 1-2 weeks once on the dose. After that it’s useless for whatever reason, even if you try afterwards. I know this for a fact because I have combined different techniques based on these ideas to develop something better… as a matter of fact I’m still working on it. I’m working on many things but I’m studying at the same time so things don’t go as fast as they should. Remember the root cause could be anything… this includes genetic itself…. It could play partial or a complete role, but we simply don’t know at this point and are all working on deciphering it little by little. That’s why I suggested VOCs as the only way to narrow down what it is to its fundamental level and then work from there. The only reason I’m not doing it is first, we don’t have access to these equipments during off hours and I simply don’t know how to operate any of them. It needs knowledge & skills that I haven’t learned yet. To violate faculty & lab rules and procedures is very risky.
@Everyone, I encourage everyone to try metronidazole for 2 weeks and see for yourself. No sweets, dairy and gluten will amplify the results. You’ll see patm will disappear for a while. Now if @Ranciere was right, cruel people around the world (all people) wouldn’t know about what you’re taking therefore should still cough violently and get sick just to get your attention. This experiment will only work if you haven’t tried metronidazole before. If it doesn’t work, mostly a resistance from previous trial, then let me know.. I might have another suggestion. I’m holding back things because of this very fact. If we try things randomly and not know what causes patm, resistance builds for any microbial species including protozoans. It’s like shooting aimlessly in the dark and run out bullets until the real wolf shows up behind you…lol. We shouldn’t make microbial resistance to any drug unnecessarily unless we know it’s going to heal patm permanently. I mean what good is a 1-2 week cure and then back to patm? So patmers, decide wisely. Also note the toxins of drugs so take with food and lots of water.
@ Ranciere, You don’t believe people around the world are literary allergic to patmers but you claim to have patm? Do you know what the acronym patm stands for?
Have you really experienced patm? Do you really know what we mean by getting allergies and sickness? Possibly if you have patm, it must be a mild form or something totally different because it’s not the same with what we mean. Your explanation tells a different story. People coughing from patm do so as if they’re about to die sometimes….. severe sickness follows afterwards. It causes a total rejection from people. So you don’t have to reject people, people will reject you.. they’re the ones that are going leave wherever you may be. So I’m surprised you left your apartment. I expected them to leave and that’s good for you so you can live in peace. Therefore your story is a bit weird.
Personally for me, I had to find ways to minimize these effects from patm as much as possible before coming to university. Thanks to many hints from many forums including this one and my understanding of basic biochemistry I have managed to keep this problem under control. The first thing I tried was going on a vegetarian diet, thanks to grateful2011 and others.. that reduced it greatly. Likewise, I don’t eat breakfast or any food during the day until all my classes are over. digested food elevates patm during the day if I have breakfast and lunch. I also take things which controls patm to an acceptable level. Back in the days when I use to eat ice-cream, chocolate and all that junk, no one could stand me around them without going into a wild coughing attack and those people must always withdraw somewhere else. They just didn’t have a choice as the sickness gets worse if they choose to stay.
Here, look at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmFLWPWkg-8
I had trouble finding a video on youtube to show what it was like. That video is about one third of sometimes what I see coz I don’t see that girl getting up and choke while coughing as if she’s going to die. It starts off with mild coughing, sneezing then it picks up pretty quickly from then on into full blown flulike sickness with coughing you’ve never seen.
Back in those days I had everyone around me couching and almost choking…. much much worse than the video above, sneezing with dripping noses… with flulike symptoms and choking depending on how long they wish to stay around me. Every patmer here in the forum understand that, which is why I’m surprised by your comments. Normally they’d stand up and leave outside to clear their throat just in time and drink some water and possibly blame it on each other for spreading flu like symptoms. Once they return to their seat, the same thing happens.. until all the seats with 10 meters around me are empty. So I don’t believe you understand when we mean by allergies…how can everyone possibly fake coughing the crap out of their pants?… think of it as worst allergies you’ve ever seen together with flu-like sickness. I know you don’t understand that because you probably have never experienced it. I endured that for years in class, bus, and restaurant, literally everywhere… I’m happy university life is much better because of what I’m implementing to control it.
@ Ranciere, To sum up, I respect your claims but beside the fact that it doesn’t stand in the face of evidence, it’s serving as a demoralising influence to us all who are suffering. Patmers would benefit greatly from opinion based on evidence and facts. Your opinion is withal based on your unverified beliefs alone and it’s very demoralising to many us. I detest to say it but an intellectual can easily see through your hidden objectives that this is an indirect reference to suggest that we are imagining these things. Please don’t. I believe you have better things to do.
@ Ranciere, your idea falls apart if you also take the following fact into account. If you go back and read through the forum you’ll see many reports of patmers using “metronidazole”, a very strong antibiotic. Patm simply disappears completely for about 1-2 weeks once on the dose. After that it’s useless for whatever reason, even if you try afterwards. I know this for a fact because I have combined different techniques based on these ideas to develop something better… as a matter of fact I’m still working on it. I’m working on many things but I’m studying at the same time so things don’t go as fast as they should. Remember the root cause could be anything… this includes genetic itself…. It could play partial or a complete role, but we simply don’t know at this point and are all working on deciphering it little by little. That’s why I suggested VOCs as the only way to narrow down what it is to its fundamental level and then work from there. The only reason I’m not doing it is first, we don’t have access to these equipments during off hours and I simply don’t know how to operate any of them. It needs knowledge & skills that I haven’t learned yet. To violate faculty & lab rules and procedures is very risky.
@Everyone, I encourage everyone to try metronidazole for 2 weeks and see for yourself. No sweets, dairy and gluten will amplify the results. You’ll see patm will disappear for a while. Now if @Ranciere was right, cruel people around the world (all people) wouldn’t know about what you’re taking therefore should still cough violently and get sick just to get your attention. This experiment will only work if you haven’t tried metronidazole before. If it doesn’t work, mostly a resistance from previous trial, then let me know.. I might have another suggestion. I’m holding back things because of this very fact. If we try things randomly and not know what causes patm, resistance builds for any microbial species including protozoans. It’s like shooting aimlessly in the dark and run out bullets until the real wolf shows up behind you…lol. We shouldn’t make microbial resistance to any drug unnecessarily unless we know it’s going to heal patm permanently. I mean what good is a 1-2 week cure and then back to patm? So patmers, decide wisely. Also note the toxins of drugs so take with food and lots of water.
@ Ranciere, You don’t believe people around the world are literary allergic to patmers but you claim to have patm? Do you know what the acronym patm stands for?
Have you really experienced patm? Do you really know what we mean by getting allergies and sickness? Possibly if you have patm, it must be a mild form or something totally different because it’s not the same with what we mean. Your explanation tells a different story. People coughing from patm do so as if they’re about to die sometimes….. severe sickness follows afterwards. It causes a total rejection from people. So you don’t have to reject people, people will reject you.. they’re the ones that are going leave wherever you may be. So I’m surprised you left your apartment. I expected them to leave and that’s good for you so you can live in peace. Therefore your story is a bit weird.
Personally for me, I had to find ways to minimize these effects from patm as much as possible before coming to university. Thanks to many hints from many forums including this one and my understanding of basic biochemistry I have managed to keep this problem under control. The first thing I tried was going on a vegetarian diet, thanks to grateful2011 and others.. that reduced it greatly. Likewise, I don’t eat breakfast or any food during the day until all my classes are over. digested food elevates patm during the day if I have breakfast and lunch. I also take things which controls patm to an acceptable level. Back in the days when I use to eat ice-cream, chocolate and all that junk, no one could stand me around them without going into a wild coughing attack and those people must always withdraw somewhere else. They just didn’t have a choice as the sickness gets worse if they choose to stay.
Here, look at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmFLWPWkg-8
I had trouble finding a video on youtube to show what it was like. That video is about one third of sometimes what I see coz I don’t see that girl getting up and choke while coughing as if she’s going to die. It starts off with mild coughing, sneezing then it picks up pretty quickly from then on into full blown flulike sickness with coughing you’ve never seen.
Back in those days I had everyone around me couching and almost choking…. much much worse than the video above, sneezing with dripping noses… with flulike symptoms and choking depending on how long they wish to stay around me. Every patmer here in the forum understand that, which is why I’m surprised by your comments. Normally they’d stand up and leave outside to clear their throat just in time and drink some water and possibly blame it on each other for spreading flu like symptoms. Once they return to their seat, the same thing happens.. until all the seats with 10 meters around me are empty. So I don’t believe you understand when we mean by allergies…how can everyone possibly fake coughing the crap out of their pants?… think of it as worst allergies you’ve ever seen together with flu-like sickness. I know you don’t understand that because you probably have never experienced it. I endured that for years in class, bus, and restaurant, literally everywhere… I’m happy university life is much better because of what I’m implementing to control it.
@ Ranciere, To sum up, I respect your claims but beside the fact that it doesn’t stand in the face of evidence, it’s serving as a demoralising influence to us all who are suffering. Patmers would benefit greatly from opinion based on evidence and facts. Your opinion is withal based on your unverified beliefs alone and it’s very demoralising to many us. I detest to say it but an intellectual can easily see through your hidden objectives that this is an indirect reference to suggest that we are imagining these things. Please don’t. I believe you have better things to do.
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