H1N1 and pregnancy

[spade22]

It is recommended that pregnant women recieve the H1N1, as well as regular, flu shot during pregnancy.  Here is quote from Dr Enoch Choi on a recent thread regarding this important topic.

"Why does CDC advise pregnant women to receive the 2009 H1N1 influenza (flu) vaccine (shot)?

Getting the flu shot is the single best way to protect against the flu. It is important for a pregnant woman to receive both the 2009 H1N1 flu shot and the seasonal flu shot. A pregnant woman who gets any type of flu has a greater chance for serious health problems. Compared with people in general who get 2009 H1N1 flu (formerly called “swine flu”), pregnant women with 2009 H1N1 flu are more likely to be admitted to hospitals. Pregnant women are also more likely to have serious illness and death from 2009 H1N1 flu.

When a pregnant woman gets a flu shot, it can protect both her and her baby. Research has found that pregnant women who had a flu shot get sick less often with the flu than do pregnant women who did not get a flu shot.  Babies born to mothers who had a flu shot in pregnancy also get sick with flu less often than do babies whose mothers did not get a flu shot."


Here is a link to the discussion:

http://www.medhelp.org/health_chats/archive/34

[JoyRenee]

It's still a personal decision each person needs to make for themselves and their family, regardless of the agenda of the CDC.

[kephartswife20]

all i know is im very happy with getting the vaccine. i would rather take my chance with it than me and my unborn child die from the swine flu.

[Riot_Queen]

I won't be pregnant during flu season anymore so I ain't gettin it!! wOOt!

[Proud_Papa_of_2]

besides bng pregnant, if ur in the household of an infant under 6 mos. you are in the same high priority group as a pregnant woman.

[chantal21]

I don't understand why so many vaccines are pushed all the time. It's definitely a personal decision and after what my son went through after getting a vaccine, I am more afraid of what's in the vaccine and what it will do to me or my family, than just getting the flu itself. But hey, that's me!

[KellyA74]

Just note that this is the H1N1 SHOT....not the nasal mist, which is a live vaccine.....The SHOT is not live!  We are being forced to get both the seasonal flu and H1N1 vaccine at the hospital that I work at....NY state.....If we do not get them prior to Nov. 30, we will be terminated.  I know this has nothing to do with pregnancy, I just needed to vent at the fact that NY state is going a little overboard (in my opinion anyway).....

[Crystalrt]

I personally think it comes down to a persons own opinion. I have had the H1N1 vaccine as I don't like risks when it comes to pregnancy. Yes some people do have reactions to vaccines but the chance of that would be less than contracting the disease your getting vaccinated for. If that made any sense.

[Crystalrt]

I do think that is stupid because with some religions they don't agree with vaccinations. So if they were to work where u do they would be terminated for having cultural beliefs!!!!
Is that even legal for them to ask that? I'm in Australia so I don't know but I'm sure as hell I would not be letting them tell me what I had to inject in my body!!! Sorry got me a little fired up too...

[AuroraSage]

Ha!

Just to add a bit of a different opinion.. and to back up JoyRenee a bit... I have never gotten a flu shot.  And definitely don't plan on getting one now... or even immunizing my child!  oh boy.  what a subject to be getting in to so early in the morning.  But yes, I do believe that "big pharma" is hyping this all the wrong way... and would never inject something into myself just because someone told me to.

[Victoria01]

I think what it boils down to is a personal decision. Opinions are like a$$ holes, everyone has one. Make the choice YOU are comfortable with for yourself and your family, whether that means getting it or not, it's up to each person and they shouldn't be attacked for their choice. No matter what the difference of opinion is here, we ALL have the same goal, which is to do what we feel is best for ourselves and our loved ones.

[Lance06]

There are two different shots...one has a preservative that they would prefer pregnant women and infants not to get. We dont have the other vaccine here in NY where I am yet, only the one with the preservative...so I am still waiting.

[tiredbuthappy]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#33387620   this story had me in tears

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#33239042  from Today Show on Oct 9, advice for pregnant women about flu

[spade22]

The mission of the CDC is  to:

"Collaborating to create the expertise, information, and tools that people and communities need to protect their health – through health promotion, prevention of disease, injury and disability, and preparedness for new health threats."

What people choose to do with  information from the CDC, which is to help people and control disease, is their personal choice .  However, knowledge is power - arm yourself with knowledge so you can make an informed decision.  

Several reasons I have seen/heard for not getting the shot are:
-it will cause severe side effects
-it will cause the flu
-it may result in autism

Side effects from the shot are expected to be like the regular flu shot - soreness, redness at the injection site.  Weigh this against hospitalization and even death if you, or a loved one, contracts the swine flu.

As Kelly pointed out, the shot is NOT made from a live vaccine - you can NOT contract H1N1 from the shot.  Not a chance

Mercury compounds present in some shots do NOT cause autism.  This has been proven over and over again.  That being said, there are mercury-free vaccines available for those that have concerns about this.

[spade22]

MH has a forum pertaining directly to the H1N1 vaccine.  Here is the link if you want to read/participate in some of the discussions taking place:


http://www.medhelp.org/forums/Swine-H1N1-Flu-Vaccine-Debate-Forum/show/438

[durhamjk1]

This is my personal opinion, but no one has shown me any studies on what the H1N1 Vaccine has done to unborn children (not just while in the womb, but 1, 2, 3, 5, years from now).  So I am not risking it - they assure you that YOU will be fine and they tell you that it is made similarly to the regular flu shot - but still it is a risk you have to take and I am not willing to chance it with my unborn child.  As a school teacher I know I am more exposed to the virus than others - but I have had students already have H1N1, so I have already been exposed to it and my body is building immunity as we speak.  I know that if I get sick to go to a physician immediatley and seek care.

[Rosa20]

i will be getting it! I seen my doctor today and he said that i will be the one out of everybody that if i got it i would end up on a resperator! So for me the benefits outweigh the risk! I have two small children at home and he told me not to worry about my baby...he said my baby will be fine and that its best for both of us if i get it! So my opinion i will be getting it but i will not judge others who decide not to get it..thats up to you! Becasue of the way my immune system is i think i would rather get it then die!

[akl_cdl]

My heart goes out to these pregnant women who have passed from complications of the swine flu...It is terrible.  I WILL be getting the H1N1 vaccine as soon as I can.  I am so aggrevated that I haven't had a chance to yet.  I live in Texas and can't find the shot anywhere. Hopefully they will have it soon!  I have researched both sides of the vaccine and my husband and I agree it is better for me to receive the vaccine that chance the swine flu.  I think everyone should do what makes them feel comfortable.  I am due December 2 and don't want to be delivering in a hospital with it floating around either.  I pray for the safety for all of us pregnant mommies!

**Any ladies that live in Texas had the vaccine yet?

[Rosa20]

I think the vaccine is supposed to be avaiable everywhere for anyone in the public  by nov.2.09! You should contact your doc or your health care center and ask them if they will be getting it in texas!

[Proud_Papa_of_2]

Specific studies tell u what happened in the people studied not in u. All you can do is weigh the risks and honestly the numbers point at higher risks with not bng vaccinated.

[luv2bmommy]

Im in Tx and have the same dilemma, that thing cant be found anywhere! i was ready to get in the car and go the minute it was available but ive called EVERYWHERE and most clinics either arent ordering it, period; ran out and won't be ordering more for a while if at all; or don't know, call back later. lol
this includes dr's offices, pharmacies, clinics, everything! So, im holding on, hoping neither my kids or I get it.

[akl_cdl]

I am hoping and praying that me or any of my family do not catch it either. It really upsets me because I have been impatiently waiting on it since they have said it was coming out.  None of my doctors or clinics have even received the shot yet.  They just keep telling me it should be in this week and it changes to the next week.  I know so many other pregnant women in other states who have already received the vaccine.  Gosh I would like to have some immunity to the virus before I go into the hospital to have my baby.  I hope we get it in soon.  Let me know if you do...I don't care if I have to drive 4 hours...lol.

[houseofgirls]

I don't understand all the talk about "big pharma" pushing the vaccine.  In most of the places around I've heard of around here, the H1N1 vaccine will be offered free of charge.  So how is that good for pharmaceutical companies?  Not to mention if less people get sick because they were vaccinated, then less people will be seeking medical/ER care.  I don't understand what the "agenda" is all about.  

[luv2bmommy]

same here! ill keep you updated. we are in the southeast texas area, so you'll probably be in line before me lol

[faye83]

I'm getting the vaccine tomorrow. I don't really want it BUT my coworker ALWAYS gets sick cause of his fiancee, who is a teacher. So if she gets it, he'll get it and if he gets it, I'll get it. I already went through a scare when that dumb**s came to work super sick and then he said he had pneumonia :-/

[isthisnormal]

It IS a personal decision. I haven't gotten either the regular flu shot or the H1N1 shot, and I honestly don't even know if I'm going to be getting either of them. I'm considering the regular shot, but definitely not the H1N1 one. It's not up to the women on this forum to try to convince others to get it. If someone doesn't want it, don't make them feel bad for expressing their opinions.

[Lucey12]

This is a hot topic for me so sorry if Im very opinionated.

They want you to get the shot to protect from getting H1N1. 2 problems here.

1) The vaccine has more side effects than the flu its self. Its not safe.
2) H1N1 isnt any more dangerous than the flu. TRUST ME ON THIS!

One person has died from this. More people die from the common flu. In BC pretty much all of the lower main land has it. I have about 20 family members there and they have all had it. Everyone is fine. They treated it like the regular flu. It has the same symptoms of the regular flu, its just a different strain. No biggy. I think the biggest concern with H1N1 is that it is very contagious.

If you want to be safe, wash your hands more. Lysol is the best cleaner. Hand sanitizer do NOTHING. In Biology we grew bacteria cultures and then used cleaning products to see which one killed them. Hand sanitizer did NOTHING to them. Lysol was amazing though.

[rebekah385]

More than one person has died from the swine flu 100 children (in the us), so far not counting even more adults than that. the regular flu does not kill as many people as fast. they are not the same thing.

[isthisnormal]

No one said they are the same thing. It's a different strand. And the regular flu kills an average of 36,000. Swine flu has not.

[kephartswife20]

more than one person has died from the swine flu like rebekah385 said in the U.S. 100 children and more adults have died. and yeah more people have died from the regular flu. but they are mostly older people and people that dont have good imune systems. the swine flu is going after young healthy people.and who knows how many people are gonna die from it, it's not even flu season yet. people need to realize how serious this is. and sorry if Im very opinionated. thats just how i feel. please dont hold it against me.

[akl_cdl]

I still can't find the shot form of the vaccine anywhere in Texas.  I am getting extremely aggrevated!  I will be 35 weeks pregnant Wednesday and think it is **** I haven't been able to get it. I am glad some of you have been able to get it already.

[Lucey12]

Sorry it was one person in BC. And like I said, I have 20 some family members who all have had it and they are fine. I heard there was like 2000 people who died from the flu but it wasnt unknown if it was swine flu or the regular flu. Im not completely against it, if you want it go for it but there is no way Im getting it. You REALLY have to worry when the government is making **** like that mandatory to get. Holocaust opportunity much?

[Ashelen]

it's not mandatory here....

[akl_cdl]

Is it mandatory in BC?  I know here it is not mandatory.

[squeakyquynh]

I just got the H1N1 shot today. They give the thermisol free shot (single dose) to pregnant women. My OB, General Prac, and Oncologist sister in law recommended I get it. I got the seasonal flu shot a few weeks ago.

[penggal1]

i know it may just be bull, but my friend had be youtube agenda 21, and see what you get. It has to do with how the United Nations are trying to do messed up things such as vaccinate us with chemicals that are bad for us and put floride in our water, i dont really understand it all, but after watching some info on the internet im just a little scared about the shots since i have never gotten one at all. But i think since im 13 weeks preg i have to get it! Let me know what you guys come up with, you are going to find a lot on agenda 21 but try and read through the bull.

[luv2bmommy]

there is a lot of bull out there, but that bull can also come from people who have nothing better to do with their time than create conspiracy theories and get everyone in an outraged panic. check your sources! the argument that the H1N1 hasnt been through enough testing to risk the possible side effects is unfounded to me because for one, there are different strains of flu each and every year! do people fuss about extensive testing every flu season, most just consider it the seasonal flu, its been tested. 2. it is manufactured by the very same group as the seasonal flu shots. next there is the case that it does not kill as many people as the seasonal. this strain of flu has just recently been discovered, theres no way it could have the track record of the annual strains of flu as they have been around for years years years. Pregnant women's immune systems, no matter how strong before ARE WEAKENED by the pregnancy, it has to be to even allow for the foreign group of cells to remain without being rejected from the body. this does not mean that every response from your body is useless, it just takes on a different way of running regular tasks to accommodate. Even when the death toll is so small compared to other strains of flu, the numbers are still higher than reported cases of side effects. We have come such a long way from a century ago when infectious disease was the leading cause of death, especially among infants! Many more women than is even conceiveable for a woman in our society had suffered the loss of a child, if not more than one. I am no doctor but i am grateful for our advances in medicine and am fully aware of how to think and research for myself rather than being blindly led in either direction. I am trying to make the right decisions for my family as i am sure everyone here is. kudos to the women who not only question the intent of others when it comes to their children but do the homework as well. sorry this was so long i am a little passionate about this also!

[faye83]

So they didn't have the vaccine yet so I have some extra time to figure out what to do. Im just worried about the exposure I have to people that get sick all the time (ie my coworker).

[penggal1]

Yes i hear you. It is way too hard to do your research on the internet as i am a research analyst, there are way too many groups out there saying the exact opposite, so who do you believe. I know the media will not cover anything having to do with this AGENDA 21. but i did find it interesting, im not saying i believe in it, but i am alittle interested to find out why the gov is doing things such as putting Flouride in our water, i know it can't possibly be cause they care about our teeth and your not supposed to ingest it anyway. so little things like that make you wonder. But i also think im going to get both vaccinations, but they do not have the swine flu one yet. So im on a list. Just thought the agenda 21 thing was interesting it is all of the internet and youtube and saying all pretty much the same thing.

[akl_cdl]

I agree with you 110 percent!  Not to mention the seasonal flu does kill alot of people, 90% of them being 65 and older.  This new one is almost exact opposite, 90% being younger healthy people.

Also wanted to let you know I got my H1N1 vaccine about an hour ago.  Do they have it near you yet?

[lavenderinscence]

IT's not worth the side effects. your chances of dieing of swine flu are almost half as likely as regular seasonal flu. the statistics go something like this ... " of the people who contracted seasonal flu last year, 0.1% of them died. Of the people who contracted swine flu this year in other populations, 0.007% of them died." I have read relentlessly on this subject. IT IS documented that the main ingredient in this new vaccine is MERCURY. we can't eat more than one can of tuna a week but we can accept such a large single dose in a vaccine that will "help" us? they don't even test for swine flu at the hospital! it's NOT avain flu -which DOES kill! our unborn children already have a 1 in 500 shot of being born with autism, why risk anymore? mercury is linked to a whole host of CNS defects, not only in unborn children but adults too! it WILL increase your risks for all sorts of things like dementia, Alzheimer's, and MS. I plead with my family members not to be so foolish .... please please weigh the risks before you trust something blindly that hasn't been tested!

[tiredbuthappy]

thimerisol-free vaccines are available for pregnant women, nursing moms, and children

[penggal1]

What is thimerisol???? This is why i am so up in the air about it. I really do not know what to believe, i understand it is very dangerous, but i also hear it is not easy to get, then i hear that the Vaccine is almost the same as the other reg one, then i hear is has Mercury and Illegal Substance in it. So what to believe, i do know that one side is not completely telling the truth. it pisses me off. Then i hear you can't get sick from a non-live Vaccine, then i have hear of people getting sick!! What the heck! I dont know, my husband does not want me to get it. But my Dr does. Who knows!!!!! Damned if i do....Damned if i don't!

[penggal1]

Here is some info my aunt found for me
http://www.livingnutrition.com/article_samples/swineflu.html

[Meadow841]

None of my doctors have even mentioned it to me or pushed it on me. I've seen a GP and my fertility clinic and not once have they mentioned it to me.

[tiredbuthappy]

thimerisol is a preservative used in some vaccines.

if you choose to get vaccinated, you can ask in advance which vaccine they offer and look it up. a dr or pharmacist can help you understand the components of the vaccine, as well as potential risks.

i am beginning to realize that i shouldn't give specific advice about this topic because honestly, you shouldn't listen to ME any more than you should listen to the other strangers on the internet who assert that this is all a conspiracy, that it's unsafe, etc... The only people you should listen to are trusted medical professionals. Don't like what your says then find another or go against their advice with the understanding that you are not following his or her recommendation. If you choose to research on your own, be very careful. Any shmuck can slap a "Dr." in front of his or her name and provide advice. When reading, stick to credible sources. If you don't trust our government and the CDC, you can look at the WHO (world health organization), AMA, etc...

[babybemine]

After struggling with this decision, I finally got the vaccine yesterday. I am almost 29wks, and I'm a high school teacher.  There have been so many confirmed cases in our area, I didn't see any other option.  Only side effect I have had was a headache, which is better than putting me or the baby at risk.  

[conservativemommy]

Personally, I'll take my chances!  I'm 33 weeks along and I guess that I am not comfortable being told that I need to get one by the Government who is pushing it so hard.  This is my 3rd and never had any problems with the other 2 pregnancies and flu.  Did you know that the President hasn't had his own kids vaccinated for H1N1?  

[penggal1]

Hey thanks, yeah i mean i am a research analyst, so i research everything. But i just think the Dr's and Medical Companies are benifiting from their advice and it is coming to the point where i don't even think what the dr are saying are completely true, i had to learn that hard way about BC pills and what they can do to you. All Drs say something diff, and it is so annoying. So to trust a Dr just cause he is yours or just cause he is a DR is not cutting it for me lately. My one dr didn't push it and just gave me both sides, and my Reg OBGYN told me i def should be getting it. I just hate that i can not have the facts and i have to read threw everyones ********. I dont think the Gov is trying to kill us, but i do not like how they are real quick to shoot us up with something that possibly could also harm us you have to remember i dont live in Canada and these insurance companies are making so much money off us and esp perscriptions and such, so it just hard to even believe your Dr now a days! Still not sure what im going to do, i see alot of good points on both sides but i think im going to get at least the Reg Fu shot Def. Ok well ill talk to you later and thanks for the input!

[Ashelen]

actually the president's daughters HAVE gotten the h1n1 shot, but that's neither here nor there. the truth is, you have to trust your doctors. if you can't trust them, don't see that doctor. if they recommend it, you should get it. if they don't and you're comfortable with not getting the shot, by all means do not get it!  conservativemommy I can totally understand why you don't think you need this shot and i'm not saying you do!! but just realize that the incidents of pregnant women dying from this particular strain of the flu are significantly higher than any other strain, and that's only so far this flu season (consider that this is the first season this flu has been recognized, so the numbers are GOING to be low). I personally DO NOT KNOW if I am going to get it or not, but please please please I am agreeing with everyone here research both sides of the argument, and discuss with your doctor. It's easy to believe conspiracy theories because they wouldn't be any good if they didn't make a lot of sense. Just use your own common sense and your doctors advice to make up your mind. Some places are giving it for free, so I doubt that it's a pharmaceutical conspiracy, and the government pushing it because they want to hurt us doesn't make sense either because then a bunch of uninsured people would be dying or sick in the hospitals and costing us billions more dollars! so the real decision comes down to: do you think you need it or not? and the answer?!?! (drumroll please): ask your doctor! SSBD everyone if you're still TTC and H&H9 to everyone else!!

[conservativemommy]

Sorry if I got it wrong about the President's kids not getting the shot... but as of Thursday I know for a fact that they hadn't had it yet.  Unfortunately I haven't been feeling well enough to watch TV and get updated on things like that.  I agree with all... it's up to you personally to do the research and weigh your options.  40,000 people a year die of the regular flu but if you put into perspective and think about how many people die in auto accidents each year, etc. the risk of dying from H1N1 seems pretty slim.  I live in WI and actually we were one of the 1st states that had identified this strain of flu years ago from a farmer who had both pigs and chickens.  They never made a big deal out of it and a lot of people here in the state have been getting it over the years without realizing it wasn't the regular flu.  My 3 year old niece was just diagnosed with it but fortunately they had started her on antibiotics while waiting for test results.  She had gotten the regular flu shot but the H1N1 wasn't available yet.  After 3 days of running a fever she is back to her same rambunctious self so I'd say that she's going to be alright.  I guess either way, the key is washing hands, avoiding sick people if you can help it, etc.  Being pregnant makes all all suseptible to many germs and bugs that are out there that could make us very sick.  I wish everyone the best of luck and pray all will stay healthy, with or without the shot.

[conservativemommy]

I meant Thursday of the prior week... sorry

[conservativemommy]

Here's an intersting article if anyone cares to read it.  It talks about the deaths so far from H1N1 and the link that 29% of the deaths have resulted from contracting the H1N1 virus and a bacterial infection (like strep throat) at the same time.

http://origin2.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,558402,00.html?mep

[penggal1]

Oh yeah and a few months ago when my sister inlaw thought she had it,. the ER told her they would not test for it anymore. Why the hell would that be? I was told by a nurse that it is the same as the reg Flu if you get it you do the same thing. And just relax......and stay in bed, let it pass. But i was pretty pissed they told her they were not allowed to test her for the Swine Flu, yet they are coming out with all these stats about who are dying, how would they know that if in some places they are not allowed to test, i don't know. in ny things are alittle bit more hi speed and we see things coming from a mile away when it comes to money and with out a doubt i do believe that a lot of these insurance and medical companies will profit greatly from this issue........do i think they are doing it to hurt us, no......but do i think they really think long and hard about our best interest over their dollar......sometimes no. For all we know the Swine Flu Does not exsist, and they are shooting us up with yet another drug.....I don't know. I still have more research to do, But ofcourse it is always up to you. I know you say to trust you Dr, and for the most part i do. I just think in general, it is hard to trust them when it comes to perscriptions and stuff, because i have seen first hand how they profit from these scripts, and are brain washed into thinking it is okay to perscribe, because they tell them selvs that the Patient needs it, they def justify it in their own heads, and DEF make a dollar off it. They have to make a living too, and unfortunatly Health care is really not about health care in the US it is a Corp game......sad but true, and that is why hopefully our president will change that soon. Good luck to all.

[akl_cdl]

I live in Texas and about a month and a half ago I thought I was coming down with something.  Went to the doctor they did test me for the flu but it took 5 days to get the results back because the testing center is so backed up.  There was no point in even testing me!  It was so aggrevating.  By the time my results came back saying I had the regular seasona flu A & B I was already almost over it.  Maybe that's one reason they are not testing and just treating it like the seasonal flu... but I know here they have tested some of my family members and it has came back as 2009 Novel H1N1 influenza.  As far as the stats when someone dies they need to determine the cause of death so maybe they are just testing the deceased...I'm not really sure.  I agree with you, It is up to us to make the best decision we can for ourselves and our families.  However, I really do trust my doctor...he is practically family.  Good luck to us all in any decision we make:-)

[JillyHemp316]

Juust to let everyone know, the "regular" flu shot you get every year is also new and barely tested. Every single year the "regular" flu is a new strain of the flu. So if your okay getting the regular flu shot then you should have no problems getting the H1N1 shot. The actual flu itself is more dangerous than the shot. I'm watching the news as I'm online and I just found out that a pregnant woman just died of H1N1 on the south side of Chicago. She was five months pregnant, the baby didnt survive. I have never gotten a flu shot before, but I am going to get a flu shot now that I'm pregnant, if I wasn't pregnant I wouldn't be getting the new shot. Like everyone has said, it is a personal choice that you and your significant other have to make. But I thought you should know that the "regular" flu shot is new every year, it no different. Europe gets the flu before we do, so when the get the flu we go over there and analyze the flu and then the scientists have 5 months to formulate, test, and produce the new flu shot. They do that every year! The flu is an active virus, it mutates and changes, so the vaccine for it must change. This is normal. The only difference between the H1N1 and the flu from last year is that the flu from last year has mutated and is stronger. People die from the flu every single year. This year it is just been broadcast over the television more. No difference, if you usually get a flu shot, get it like normal. If your paranoid, then think it over and make your decision as you see fit. But this is no different than any other year.

[martikadragoon]

Wanted to say I had planned on getting H1N1 vaccine since I got the flushot.... but I'll find out soon if what I have now is H1N1....

and the inactive flu shots (including h1N1) do not contain live virus, HOWEVER your body can still have flu-like reactions to it. I had extreme fatigure, and sore muscles from the normal flu shot (my first ever)....

[penggal1]

Hey-well i have never got the Flu shot of any kid ever, so i cant really say i am okay with it. I just do not trust this govt. The Govt, the Media, the Insurance companies, even some Dr's they are all like one big corporation whether people believe it or not and sometimes they do make things a lot bigger then things are to make a buck. Again i do not think they are trying to kill us with this shot, but no one knows the long term effects on what the shot can do to you. Since they threw it together so quickly, same goes for the reg shot or anything that has not really been tested long enough. Again im not swaying either way, im actually prb going to get at least one of those shots, but regarldless if i get it or not, i still am soo pissed at this Govt and Media and Medical Companies, they are all about the money. And it makes me sick. which is the number one reason why people are hooked on Perscription pills every year. Even your regular DR now a days, can perscribe meds for anxiety and i do not just mean a Xanax for when you fly, i mean Lexapro things that you have to take every day, meds that only psychiatrist should be perscibing, i don't know i just do not believe everything i see on tv just because it is on the news, i know they have their own agendas, which is prob why they didn't report half the dumb **** that president Bush was doing while he was in office, we practicly re-elected him twice out of fear. Sorry guys-things are crazy here in NY, alot of people think like that. But again this is all just my oppinion. Good luck to everyone on what ever you descide, just do not believe everything you hear on News. Everyone has their own agendas.....But when it does come to this vaccine unfortunatly we really are not left with much choice so i think, we have to out way our options......Again good luck to all.

[penggal1]

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/03/What-We-Have-Learned-About-the-Great-Swine-Flu-Pandemic.aspx



PLEASE READ

[30something13]

My hospital got in trouble for posting a letter from the government. It stated that more cases of H1N1 are from people who have had the shot or nasal spray. There ahve been no studies on this shot as it is made in chicken eggs like the regular flu shot. If given in the first 12 weeks of being pregnant it can effect the evelopment of the baby also as any shot! Anyway teh hospital posted the info about how it is spreading faster and sooner then it should was due to the shots and nasal spray. My hospital is a chain around the area and they had clinics to give them to the hospitals employes at one week intervals. The first hospital had an employee rate or almost 80% who got sick after getting the shot or nasal spray. Then they posted to all other hospitals that they would advise not gettting anything. I was in the lab getting my HCG levles done and government officials were all over the hospital taking down their personal letter to the administration and county health departments. I am not getting any shot and my kids have never had any shots for anything even vaccines and are the healthiest kids! They ahve never even gotten a cold! My step children have not been sick since they stopped getting shots as well. REad this. It is a thing my friend posted after researching about shots.

http://www.alternativehealth.co.nz/vacines/historicalfacts.htm

[Collegebeauty22]

My school nurse told me to ONLY get the seasonal flu shot and not the H1N1 flu shot.

[penggal1]

http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2009/04/30/dr-russell-blaylock-on-1976-swine-flu-and-current-outbreak/

[30something13]

That is vey interesting! You know that is how aids and lots of things have gotten passed around. The government is not what we once thought are they. I am sadend to her the new health bill be passed. It owuld be like 1,400 for a family of 4 a month!!! How can people afford that! Like 900 for a single person. I have not read all the details about it but know we are heading into a socialist nation. Some big wig in Russia told Obama not to do this as it does nto work like we woudl want it too. He told him in a statement that they had tried it and it broke their nation. Very sad and I will die if they say these shots are mandatory! Legally they can not even keep your kids out of school enrollment for not having shots. They tried but failed with mine as I wrote a letter to the school, dr, and pharmisutical company who made the shots  to  out in writing they were 100% safe and would taek full resonsibility if something were to happen to my children. THey sent me letter saying they could not do that, all of them, and said that shots were based on informed consent and they are not mandatory in any state in the us. We have to fight and win the right battles! However I am glad I am due in the summer when there is less chance of catching anything when delivering.

[penggal1]

Im not really sure about the health Bill i have to follow up on it, but i think that may be the republicans trying to scare you, because they have their pockets in the insurance and medical companies. I actually voted for Obama and think he will do the right thing, but i am starting to get alittle annoyed about the Vaccine sittuation, i think a lot of that is out of his control. But im not really sure. I do know that Obama was trying to make health care affordable for all middle class average people so i doubt it is 900 a person, that makes no sense. i have to read up on it though. And good for you with the letters!!! I was worried about all these vaccinations they want my kid to get and i want to know what my rights are. The truth of the matter is that the sicker we are as a nation the more money these Doctors and Medical Companies will make!

[penggal1]

Another great video to watch and take into consideration

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9mh9f_swine-flu-1976-propaganda_webcam

[kris777]

Everyone has very different opinions about this........I personally will not get the H1N1 vaccine and I am 8 months pregnant.  Both of my children ages 1 and 4 have already had the swine flu a month ago and it was not hard on them at all---plus I didn't even get it!  They ran fever off and on for a few days, runny nose and cough but that was it.  As long as the fever was down they played as usual and seemed just fine.  I don't completely trust that this vaccine will not be harmful in any way to my unborn baby--I don't care what they say.  They don't have a history of giving the vaccine to pregnant women and following them and their babies after they are born to TRULY determine that it will not affect the baby.  The government and CDC do make mistakes and I do not trust it.  Both of my doctors also only recommend getting the regular flu shot so that is all I plan to do.  

Good luck everyone.........I hope you all stay healthy this flu season!  You just have to make the best choice for you and everyone is different:)

[Sunkissed19]

one of my friends hadnt gotten the h1n1 vaccine yet and she got the swine flu and miscarried at 14 weeks....it happened last week. she's okay herself but baby didnt make it...its very sad. we live in different towns about 2 hours apart but we were gonna have babies together :( now i guess its just me.

[penggal1]

Oh that is so sad. How do they know it is Swine Flu. I only say that because they make you think they r testing for it, when they really are not, they are swabbing people and that is not a definitive test, no doubt it really was a Flu, but it is been confirmed they are not testing for swine so i do not know how they heck they are telling people that. y heart goes out to your friend. ox

[buymegoldfish]

im 33 weeks pregnant and didnt get the H1N1. I didnt feel comfortable with it especially after i read an article stating they didnt know the effects it had on the unborn baby....i stay home most of the time. i go out once a week to go shopping and thats about it. If i worked around a lot of people all the time i might re think my decision. i feel more comfortable without the shot then i would have if i had gotten it.