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No fetal heartbeat during transvaginal ultrasound at 8 weeks 4 days

I had a transvaginal u/s last Friday, adn the fetal crown to rump length showed 8.4 weeks. Hoewever, we couldn't find a heartbeat. I am due back for another u/s in 10 days time.

My menstrual cycle had been acting rather irregularly from the way it has otherwise done since the first time I had a period in my life - in the sense that my period always starts 5 days EARLIER from the last time, but the last couple of times, it came 5+ days AFTER the last time instead.

I haven't had any bleeding or even spotting whatsoever, and still have morning sickness, hunger etc.....

What are my chances of seeing a growing foetua with a normal heartbeat when I go for the follow-up ultrasound next week (in 10 days time from the last u/s - expected foetal age should be about 10 weeks on that day, ie if my menstrual cycle period can be relied on at all) ?

We are both extremely disappointed at the outcome of the last u/s and wish we could look forward to some hope of having this baby - inspite of all this history ...... so please advise
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I'm 9 weeks, supposedly. And was told today they can't hear my baby heart beat, I had light spotting night before, which lead me to er today. They checked me my cervix was closed and baby was visible on ultra sound just no heart beat, I have to go back two days from now to see if anything change and doctors were concerned I could be less weeks than I think... I'm praying that they hear heart beat, I'm scared and nervous, and emotional.. please pray for me..
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I have lots and lots of sympathy for the ladies in here  I had several miscarriages back in the old days. I am 56 now and have 3 beautiful sons and I am so grateful every day. I have to say that there was non of these tranvaginal scans available and I must say I'm glad as all they seem to do is cause nothing but worry and heartache. If you are going to miscarry it will happen anyway whether you have a scan or not... It should put women's minds at rest but it just seems to cause more worry for some women that will go on to have a viable pregnancy. My first scan was 20 weeks!!!! Can you imagine that!!!
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I even have worst cases when my baby is 8 weeks my doc said there is only a sac and no baby with a 5x6cm cyst. So she schedule me for a specialist. The next day i meet my specialist and done a us and tvs us and he saw the baby at 9.4 and sac at 24 but no heartbeat. I was devastated as i really want this baby and already told everyone. He said that im missesd miscarriage and only a miracle will save my baby. Im trusting god that my baby will be okay and i hav been reschedule for another us on 2/july/2014. Hope the best for my baby.
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Hi All,
I have been reading these post over and over again for the last week trying to find comfort, hope or just clarity. The first day of my lmp was 8/1 and we went for an vaginal ultrasound 10/2 and they said i was 6wks 4dys.. we could see the baby and the yolk sac but no hearbeat. We were devastated. This is our first baby, first pregnancy and we have told everyone already. We go back weds 10/9 for another ultrasound. the doctor was very negative and even said with most certainty our baby had stopped growing and i would more than likely start spotting this week (that hasnt happened). I dnt have morning sickness and have felt well the entire pregnancy except for breast tenderness and being exhausted. I am praying for all of us!!!!! Miracles happen and its in Gods hands at this point. It is so hard not knowing or understanding but we must just take it one day at a time.
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What was the outcome?
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I'm 11 weeks and 3 days but my sonogram is showing that i'm 7 weeks and there is no heartbeat what can I do should I  be worry I never had a m/c before I have 2 girls and they are fine I don't kno what else to do anybody have so advice for me it could be positive or negative I just need something to look forward to cause not knowing is stressing me out
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hi my name is chaya am 28 year old ,i got married 2010 may 20 ,now am pregnant  and i went hospital for checkup 8 weeks 2 days doc done the scan and he told me still no heartbeat start and he suggested me after one week  we will do one more scan,if its not positive we will clean the uterus am scared bec this is my first pregnancy ,and wen i checked urine test its came an positive me and husband feel very happy now i feel very sad .and friend any chances after 10 week it will start heartbeat pls help me and pry for GOD thank you
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...uuuufffff....i'm in so devastated and in so much pain for what i'm going through, that I didn't even notice how old is the message I replay to....did anybody else experince same as in the message from gpereyra and have some thoughts to share??
so thank you all for sharing your thoughts!!
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Dear gpereyra.....your story brought back hopes in my soul....I;m in pretty much same sit as you were, except for the happy part, to which I'm praying every sec I'm breathig ... I'm also told I'm 8-9 wks, although my calculations are for little less... a wk ago i could clearly hear the heart beat and could be seen on the screen as well...few days ago, to another check up,  was told no heart beat...unfortunally, in my case, i did anoth US same day, 1-2 hr later to another office, and told same thing...i'm devastated and in total denial, of course, refused d/c, my body shows not signs of rejecting pregnancy yet, and now i'm reading your story and get tears of hope....what were you told? was a maschine error, or is possible that to a moment, heart beat would stop, and then start beating again????
I would so appreaciate if you would be able to share with me what was the doctors explantion....is there any hope that 2 US are wrong?? My name is Cris...thank you so much for sharing your story!!!!
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I"m in the same situation.  I know it's been awhile.  can you please tell me your outcome?
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Yes it do hurt, you cannot tell people it does not hurt. Everyone has a different uterus and are sensitive to different sensations. Please stop telling people this.
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i am a 26 year old mother of 2 beautiful kids a boy and a girl, who are only ten months apart, my daughter will be 5 in a couple weeks and my son will be 6 in september. Both were healthy babies and i had a normal pregnancy with both, no problems at all. Last month on the 23 i found out i was pregnant with a home pregnancy test, i was shocked and surprised. i mean i wasnt on any birthcontrol so its not like i was preventing it....but i love kids and always knew i would have more, just hadn't crossed my mind lately i guess you could say :) anyways i called my doctor and made an appointment, which i had on the 8th of this month they figured from my last period that i was about 9weeks.....they asked me how i had been feeling and for the most part i felt fine.....just the regular morning sickness and nausea that came on and off all day.....other then that i felt fine no cramping, spotting or anything out of the norm. so finally it was time for the ultra sound.......after about a min trying to get a good pic of my cervix we see the sac....but we couldnt see anything else......i didnt know what she meant, i sat up and she explained that it could be one of two things, i am earlier then i thought or she used some fancy word and after saying "ok...whats that?" she said it would be a miscarriage. i immediatly started crying i know people that have gone through that and i felt so sorry for them, but having to healthy pregnancies i thought like a lot of people that i couldnt happen to me. so she took some blood said not to worry and in a couple days come back give more blood and they would check my levels and if the were high then i am earlier then i thought......so i gave blood last week and schedualed a ultra sound appointment for next tuesday that my doctor requested 2 days ago......however she called today and asked me to come in, she got my blood work back and my levels were really low....meaning that fancy word that i can pronounce but i know what it means. she told me i have options i can still go to the ultra sound if i need to see for myself and if its like before i can wait and miscarry on my own cause still i have had no cramping , or i can have a D&C....i dont know what to do?  
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I went for an u/s  2weeks ago and I was 6 weeks and was a heart beat, went back today and I'm 8weeks 4days but no heart beat?? but the baby is still there and bleeding has stopped, got another scan on wedsday next week. Is it possible the heart beat will be there??
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I'm just wondering how things worked out for you, if you got your second opinion yet.  I am about 8 wks pregnant and had my first u/s today.  Dr. said there was no heart beat, but the baby's growth was the right size and wanted me to have a d&c tomorrow.  I decided to wait and am going back for another u/s in 2 wks.  I am so devestated and don't know if I should even hold out hope. I also don't know if I should go back to the same Dr.  They were really nice about it, they just didn't want to wait. I already have 2 healthy kids and never had a problem like this before.
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My first pregnacy. I'm 8 weeks pregnat, went in for my first doc app yesterday, they did my physical check up, they finally sent me for u/s and the tech didn't say much but was rude gave me a picture of my ultrasound and said here I don't see baby's heart beat. go sit out in waiting room till we get your results. I waited for 3 hours for them to read my u/s and for finally the doctor to be reached I sat there and cried. When the doctor said I miscarried because there's no heartbeat seen and the ultra sound measures the baby at 9 weeks when doctor say from my LMC I'm 8 weeks and from conception I'm 7 weeks. I'm sooo confused and hurt. IM not bleeding at all, and I scheduled for 2nd opinion with diff obgyn. I'm scared and our family is very sad! When will my body reject this fetus I'm not bleeding or anything!
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I'm sorry but I saw your comment and that you were an ultrasound tech and wanted your opinion.

My last mp was 10/27/11. I went in on 12/21/11 for my first ultrasound and all she could see was an amniotic sac, no baby. It looked completely empty. My bloodwork that afternoon came back with high beta count and she said she was 90% sure that it was a blighted ovum??

I went back on 12/27/11 and the amniotic sac then had a yolk sac with a little smudge on the side. Dr said there was growth but she wasn't sure why my beta was so high.

Back again for a 3rd transvaginal ultrasound on 1/4/11 and there was now what she called a fetal pole. It seems the same as the crown rump that was mentioned in earlier posts. She said she measured it and I would've been about 6 weeks pregnant. Problem is there was no heartbeat detected.

I will go back again next Thursday. She says if we don't see a heartbeat by then it will be considered a lost pregnancy. What I don't understand is how can the baby still be growing but there be no heart? Should there be a heartbeat present already? Should I be concerned? If there is no heartbeat next week, should I wait another week just in case?


Thanks!
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By eight weeks you should definitely see a heart beat. No if's and's or but's. I am an ultrasound tech and there is no waiting period that will change that. of course if you are indeed 8 weeks..if the embryo measures 8 weeks by its CRL then it is a missed ab. We can see a heart beat as early as 5.5 weeks by transvaginally, I would probaby wait for a patient who is 5.5 weeks but definitely not eight. It's unfortunate and I am sorry it is happening to you or anyone else on this thread. Know that early miscarriages are normal and there is nothing you did wrong. Its mother natures way of ending something that may have not been developing correctly.  
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I went to my apt at almost ten wks expecting to hear a heart beat... we didnt I had a lil bit of spottimg that am. dr decided to do vaginal ultra sound... still no heart beat.. but baby measured 8wks. and besides no heartbeat he said everything looked normal.. we did check hcg level that day was 1700 . two days later checked again and it was 1500.. they told me to prepare for mis carriage... im devasted.. besides sum mild cramping. im feel ok..we r suppose to go talk to,dr monday... is it hopeless
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Well I am  weeks pragnet and I went to the doctors their is no heart beat to the baby and the doctor said the sano gram looks abnormal and I was doing a little spotting my hormon leavels were normal but the doctor said their is a possibility for any thing Im just thing about asking for a d/nc has any one exerienced this
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I wish I could give you some advice. I'm going through the same exact thing. I went in September 2, and had a vaginal sonogram, the baby measured at 8 weeks 4 days had a heart beat 150 beats per minute. everything looked fine and normal. I received my little photo of my sweet pea and was excited. I started telling everyone, I went 09/15/2011 (yesterday to see the dr. to have my pap smear done and te Doctor searched for my babies heartbeat and he could not find a heartbeat. I had another sonogram and I received the news I did not want to receive, the baby did not have a heartbeat and the baby stop growing. I was devasted, I am scheduled for a D&C tomorrow. But I will be so ready to try again! :(
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i am 11 wks pregnant. today is noticed i was spotting bright red blood. i went for an u/s and no heart beat was found. i was in absolutely no pain and my blood tests gave results of high hormone levels. the doctor is sending me to a different hospital for a 2nd blood test to see if my hormone levels drop, and see if they can get a heart beat to show up. they say they don't have much hope for me, but there is a chance that the fetus is hidden behind my bladder or something, or the high blood levels could be b/c the fetus had just died. tonight, i am still experiencing no pain at all, and the spotting is lighter to almost gone and looks like old blood. they said i could be spotting from sex the night before, but that still doesn't explain why they can't see the heartbeat. i have had a very easy pregnancy w/ no nausea or anything else. maybe it's been so easy b/c i'm carrying a dead fetus, i wish i knew. this is very strange. i'm 30 years old, this is a planned pregnancy and is my first ever  pregnancy. i am devastated. can anyone give some advice please?
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We found out on April first of 2011 that we were pregnant for the second time. with our first child everything couldn’t have gone better except the labor which was my bodies fault nothing was wrong with our son, we didn’t find out till I was about 2 months pregnant with him. but with this pregnancy when we found out we were pregnant I called the dr. immediately my l.m.p was 1/17/11 my periods are usually abnormal or at least they were before our first son after that I was reg for the first time in my life so when I missed in Feb. I just figured my body was going back to "normal" but low and behold we were pregnant when I went to the dr. she went straight to the blood test not even worrying about the urine test it came out that I was appx 7 weeks along so she scheduled me an appt for the soonest she could which was the 5th of may when we went in she used the monitor to try and hear the heart beat in the office but could not find anything due to the fact I am over weight so she scheduled me an ultra sound for the 9th the day after mothers day me and my husband and our 16 month old where waiting as the tech was trying to get a reading joking around about what the baby looked like and stuff  like that and then she tells me I want you to look at this after she informed me there was no heartbeat I lost it but the next day I couldn’t help but think something’s not right if in the beginning of April I was 7 weeks  by the time they did the ultrasound I should have been between 12 and 13 weeks when the tech told us we had miscarried she said the baby had died at 8 week and a day now my concern is shouldn’t I have started cramping or spotting or bleeding nothing has happened I’m still leaking from my breasts and as my husband puts it I’m always hungry and I’m eating thing I would have never ate when not pregnant  we called the dr. this morning and she wants me to go in for another test and ultrasound some time this week right now I’m irritated with dr.’s in general I understand they are human and make mistakes but that’s why they go to school for so long and get paid as much as they do we put or lives and live of our loved ones in their hand and for it to be as stupidly simple as they are human and make mistakes doesn’t cut it for me we have accepted our second child may be dead but I’m going to make 100% sure before I finally say ok and let it go. So I guess what I am asking is if we find out that the baby is still alive should I go to the administrator of the hospital where I had the first ultra sound or should I talk to the dr. about it I mean if  it is my body or there was something wrong with the fetus I can accept that what I can not accept is someone not doing their job correctly! I am praying nothing is wrong with this child but at the same time I’ve herd it once and yeah it hurts but the  possibility that the baby could be alive and I go though with a d&c or this pill they can give you to help discharge the tissue I would never be able to forgive my self that’s like an abortion and I have very strong views against that I pray everyday that everyone going though this or have gone through this that it never happens again and they are healing physically and emotionally and if anyone has any suggestion on how I can get my husband to talk to me about this if we have actually lost this child I would appreciate it you can contact me at ***@**** thanks
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Im currently 9 weeks and 2 days an on monday I was told the baby was only measuring at 7w4days and no.fetal heartbeat was detected thru a vaginal u/s im devastated this baby was planned im so confused because wed of last weel say baby with a strong heartbeat, now 2 u/s later nothin but im still nauseaus tired witj sore tender breasts, is it a mistake
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Im currently 9 weeks and 2 days an on monday I was told the baby was only measuring at 7w4days and no.fetal heartbeat was detected thru a vaginal u/s im devastated this baby was planned im so confused because wed of last weel say baby with a strong heartbeat, now 2 u/s later nothin but im still nauseaus tired witj sore tender breasts, is it a mistake
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I seem to be having some of the same issues as others here, but I am not going to give up.  I had an ultrasound about 3 weeks ago and according to LMP I should have been 8-weeks.  The ultrasound showed a gestation sac, but no fetal pole.  I am still nursing my youngest son (9 months) so the doctor said I may just be not that far along.  I just had another ultrasound today and there was a fetus measuring 7w5d, but no heartbeat.  I go back next week for another ultrasound.  I have been having some cramping and spotting in the last few days, but I also have morning sickness.  The waiting is so hard.
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