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High FSH Levels

by Cruis2211, Jul 13, 2007 06:54AM
I just found out that I have an abnormally high FSH level. It's 12.5 and I'm 37. My doctor is not too hopeful about my conceiving and has refered me to a specialist. The specialist's nurse told me as I was making the appointment that my levels were so high, I would have a really hard tiem getting pregant and not to get my hopes up. Has anyone had levels like these or a similar problem. I'm so unhappy right now and can't stop thinking about it:
Member Comments (104)

by shayla1, Jul 13, 2007 09:57AM
I went through a depression when my doc said that my FSH was a 13 and I'm 30! What it really means is that your body wont make as many eggs (with fertility treatment) as someone with a normal FSH.
    With repronex and IUI I made 6 mature follicles (on 450 amps a day)...got pregnant and am 13 1/2 weeks along!!!
I thought that this was the end of the world but it's NOT.
   My friend who's 27 has an FSH of 21...she's close to entering menopause at 27.  Our RE gave her lots of drugs and with IUI she now has a 7 month old.

by BabyforLori, Jul 13, 2007 10:02AM
To: babyforlori
Hi Cruis2211 -

I think this is the one of the things about dr.'s that upsets me the most, is that some (now I say some) don't really take an aggressive approach to fertility.  It is true that 12.5 is higher than dr.'s like to see, but this does not make your chances of conception impossible.  There are many factors that go into determining a successful pregnancy.  And, a higher FSH generally means that you have a decreased ovarian reserve - or an indication that you are at the beggining stages to decreased ovarian reserve.  My suggestion is that you see an RE in your area and tell them your situation. Ask them what their approach and success rates with women who have higher FSH rates.  I don't remember who it was, but, there was a women on this web-site who is in her 40's and had higher FSH.  It took some time, but she was able to conceive and had a healthy baby.

Don't give up hope with one dr.'s opinion.....  I will keep you in my prayers.  
  

by tina1111, Jul 13, 2007 10:12AM
That level is not astronomical. It's elevated, but not sky high. FSH can fluctuate, too. I don't know off hand what the herbs/vitamins are, but there are some that will help lower FSH. FSH is just an indicator of reduced reserve. More indepth tests may show different.

by shayla1, Jul 13, 2007 11:11AM
I started taking wheat grass pills and after taking them 2 months my FSH dropped to an 8 and I stimulated better with repronex.  Also took Damiana which strengthens the egg...and with higher FSH you want to find the best eggs.

by peekawho, Jul 13, 2007 12:48PM
To: a great book
There is a great book, called "Inconceivable" by Julia Indichova.  She was diagnosed with very high FSH's and tried many different natural remedies when conventional medicine couldn't help her.

The month she conceived, her FSH was over 30.  She had been flatly told this was impossible.  

The book goes into great detail about the things she tried.  

by meili, Aug 22, 2007 12:21AM
To: babyforlori
I am 38 year old. and my FSH is 110! there's  no catamenia since the operation in March last year(embryo was found dead on the 50th day). I gave up the conventional medicine because I was told that it's impossible for me to have my own baby and I turned to Chinese traditional medicine.

by Chookdee, Aug 28, 2007 01:39AM
There are a few of us on here ( mainly Infertility Forum ) with high FSH at a youngish age, including myself, another is Carina1 and Janemelbourne. Dont panic. I am 34 and was told my level was 11 ( test taken 6 mths ago ). I got on the net, and the research I did made me depressed. Like Tina 1111 said, it's not sky high and may just be an idicator of the initial stages.
I am booked into IVF Unit next week, and read too that the chances of conceiving are reduced with higher FSH levels, but I had a BFP this morning on a hpt! Still can't believe it!!.. So whatever you do, do not get depressed or give up hope. Don't dilly dally though, time is of an essence. Good luck

by Zoe2B, Sep 13, 2007 11:42AM
To: conceived with hug FSH Level
I feel for anyone who had the FSH level testing and was told that their level was too high to ever get pregnant with their own eggs. I am 43 and my levels were 25.5 and 45.5. I was told that I would never have my own baby, and egg donation or adoption would be my only option for a child. I was devastated, but after a few hours I decided that I wasn't going to only take his word. I found a much more compassionate and knowledgable fertility specialist who said my advanced age is the real factor, not the FSH levels, which may or may not play a role. IVF was discussed and the question was whether to try with my own eggs (a 5-10% chance of pregnancy) or a donor's egg (a 70% chance of pregnancy). We didn't have the money for IVF so for the time being, I turned to Chinese medicine - acupunture and herbs. I started doing the home ovulation testing (HIGHLY RECOMMEND!) which showed that I ovulate very early for a 28 day cycle. It's been about 4 months since those FSH tests, and I found out 4 days ago that I am pregnant. It's very exciting, but scary at the same time because I am 43. I have to believe that this gift have been given, is a mircle in itself and if I've beaten the odds so far, I will beat them all the way through my pregnancy and have a healthy baby. It's so important to find positive doctors, and to turn to other natural/spiritual types of healing practices. And to anyone who was given similar "you can't get pregnant" news, a doctor is only human. They can't really know, so be proactive, research yourself, and shop around for the doctor that you click with. :o)

by Minea-LA, Sep 23, 2007 03:25PM
To: Shayla1
I came on too strong and decided to be aggressive about getting pregnant for the first time at the age of 43. I went to see an infertility doc just when my hubby and I decided to stop any form of contraception. My FSH is 15 and of course I was turned down by my doctor. I have decided to try on my own for a couple of cycles then try acupuncture and natural remedies. We cannot afford donor eggs. Please tell me what time of your cycle did you start taking the Wheat grass pill and at what dosage?

by RunningL8, Sep 23, 2007 03:52PM
I am 46(!) and pregnant for the second time in 6 months without fertility treatments.  My 3rd day FSH was 10 last January, then I got pregnant in April, and sadly miscarried in June (likely due to the age of my eggs, definitely not my FSH score).  I had my FSH tested again in late August, and it was 11, and that very cycle I got pregnant.  Ironically, when you're 46 and your levels are 10-11, doctors think that is a very good score and do not dismiss the idea that you might conceive.  So if I can get pregnant twice at this late age, all of you younger women should not give up!  If your FSH score is high, your quantity of eggs may be limited, but they are still of high quality, so ivf will be an option for you.  

by RunningL8, Sep 23, 2007 04:19PM
Just to add to what I said in my last post--I meant ivf will be an option, in addition to trying to conceive on your own, of course.  Also, I really agree with Wendy about the importance of knowing when you ovulate.  I also ovulate early (on day 11-12), and so during those two days I test every 12 hours to really pinpoint the window in which I'm fertile.  What has worked for me is to then try to conceive within 12 hours of the first positive ovulation test, and then again 24 hours after that.  

by sunnyds, Sep 27, 2007 08:56PM
I am 36 and have had 6 preg over the last 4 years.  I have had one successful preg.  Last Nov. I had a molar pregnancy.  We recieved the go ahead to start trying again and have not had any luck.  My Dr. just checked my FSH and I got a call from the nurse today that it was 12.5.  I have not talked to my Dr. yet but know this is very high.  After all the mc I am so sad to hear this now.  I am losing hope.  We are so blessed to have our daughter but dreamed of a big family.   I am open to alternative med. but feel like I do not even know where to start.

by lola9, Oct 02, 2007 07:15PM

I am 34 and I am pregnant (5 weeks) and I had a fsh 12.3 after clomid challenging test, the rest of the hormone values were fine. I got pregnant in the first cycle of femara and gonal f and timed intercourse. Don't lose your hope and faith.

by Sunnieraez, Oct 10, 2007 09:24PM
I haven't had a period in 3 months...Got concerned (I had been diagnosed last year w/Hashimoto and take synthroid .50mcg  Otherwise in great health.  Could spare to lay off the snacking and get on the treadmill more often!) so I went for a dr. visit and to my shock, my FSH very high 70.  I looked back at my previous labs (I go to an endo. for TSH, T4, T3, etc. every 3 months for check-ups) and they were 10 and 11 at my last check-ups.  Is it possible for FSH to spike this drastically?  I know that I am getting older-33.  We want to have a family but haven't started trying.  My gyn and endo. sent me to a reproductive end. and he wants to aggressively monitor me-he did not want to discuss why this is just how to treat it.  I am so oblivious to what this is all about but I am clear on the fact that I may be in a dire situation if we want a family (if I am blessed to even get pregnant).  Does anyone have any similiar situations? I mean, could I be in peri menopause? I have had my period monthly up till now.  Thanks for your time and advice to anyone who shares their experience with me!

by Mona93, Oct 17, 2007 07:40PM
To: Iola9
What dosages of femara and gonal f did you take and on which days of the cycle did you start?  I went through IVF with consequnt progesterone supplementation but miscarried at 11 weeks.  HCG levels were low from the start and they could not find the embryo at 11 weeks.  I need a different avenue.

by sagermom, Oct 20, 2007 01:16AM
I'm 42, and just found out when going in to discuss IUIs (successful IUI/pregnancy 2 years ago) that my FSH is 22.5.  I was devastated.  But researching and not giving up - ordered "Inconceivable" a few days ago, so looking forward to reading that and doing whatever it takes to get another shot and pregnancy.

by katydid74, Oct 26, 2007 09:06AM
I will have to check out that "Inconceivable" book.  I'm in a similar situation.  Age 33.  FSH level 30.5.  I had no idea there was a problem until I had one irregular period and called my ob/gyn.  Next thing I knew, I'm at the infertility specialist hearing that my levels are traditionally considered untreatable; my only option might be egg donation.  My doctor is great; he's running lots of tests to uncover the reason and is willing to try fertility treatment anyway.  Just wondering if anyone else out there has had success with a live birth after an fsh level this high.  

by Sunnieraez, Nov 06, 2007 05:12PM
To: katydid74
Did your doc figure out anything? I am in similiar situation.  Very weird.  I got one wacky cycle and I was also sitting right where you were.  Came right out of left field.   My doc put me on estrace and i produced follicles on my own...so you know, I mean, it is a tough thing to hear but there are ways around it if you have the right doc.  I hope u are in good hands and have a good doc and helpful support system.  I know how you feel.

by katydid74, Nov 07, 2007 07:57AM
To: Sunnieraez
Thanks, sunn.  I do have good support.  Hope you do, too.  I'll see the doc next week to discuss latest results and options.  Only had one day 3 test of FSH; the rest has been checking for possible causes of premature ovarian failure/menopause.  Doc ordered MRI that ruled out pituitary tumor.  Latest tests involves a further check on thyroid and some kind of antibodies and genetic testing - karyotype and fragile X, I believe.  Nurse said all results are normal but the doc should tell me more next week.  Let me know if you want to get in touch.  Do you feel comfortable posting your email address?  

by baby1234, Nov 07, 2007 01:28PM
Hi ladies. My fsh level peaked at 13 at the age of 34. I was devestated and thought all was over. I am happy to announce that I had my twins (via ivf) on 10-27-07! It can happen so don't give up. Just find yourself a good RE who is well versed in how to treat high fsh'ers!

by niccollbyc, Nov 07, 2007 04:37PM
I got diagnosed with an FSH of 12 today and I'm 37yo.  Dr recommends injections, but we want to start with orals first.  He says my chances of conceiving w/treatment is 30%.  Does that sound right?  Is there data out there that gives a range of FSH to chances of conception?

by milliek, Nov 08, 2007 01:03AM
i'm 42.  earlier this year i had an fsh of 9.  next month i spiked to 39.  bought "inconceivable" and followed verbatim, including shot of liquid wheatgrass from juice bar every single morning.  one month after 39, got a 15.9, one month later 14.2.  i highly recommend this book.  it's not just good for your fsh, it's good for your overall health and soundness of mind as it stops your helplessness and puts you back in the driver's seat of your own life.  good luck!

by milliek, Nov 08, 2007 02:44PM
update:  had my fsh taken again today and i am now a 6.5.  from 39 in july, following the "inconceivable" lifestyle, to a 6.5 today.  read this book!  and good luck...

by Dunio, Nov 11, 2007 05:31PM
To: milliek and everyone
Dear all:

It's my first time in here.  But this forum look quiet, is anyone here!!!!!

Thank you milliek, I will get the wheatgrass but does it have to juice? how about the tab and taking in the afternoon?  I hope you guys are doing great.  May I hear how you're doing since it has been long time.
Dunio

by Sunnieraez, Dec 04, 2007 06:31PM
To: katydid74
Hi, I lost track of this forum and hopefully you'll check in...let me know if you would like to chat.  I wanna know how you are doing.  We have a similar story.

by LJ307, Dec 09, 2007 03:24PM
Hi all,

I'm 42 and recently had my cd 3 FSH level result of  16.  I too was devastated.  FSH was just 3 in March of this year.  I also had my estradiol on cd 3 it was 60.    I'm still waiting for cd 10 results of FSH.  I'll try the wheatgrass.   Can anyone tell me when/how much wheatgrass to try?  Has anyone had an FSH of 16 and gotten pregnant?  Does Clomid affect your FSH level?  (meaning could the Clomid be responsible for my higher FSH score this time?

by katydid74, Dec 11, 2007 07:34AM
To: Sunnieraez
Hi.  I hadn't checked this in a while... seemed pretty quiet.  The latest is that my thyroid antibodies testing came out normal.  I also had genetic testing - fragile X and karyotype - for underlying causes of my premature ovarian failture.  The karyotype showed an abnormal amount of cells test positive for Monosomy X or Turner's Syndrome.  Usually this defect results in miscarriage.  If a girl is born with it, she usually has stunted growth, underdeveloped sexual organs, infertility, etc.  Since I had a smalI amount of this defect, I could have a mild form, only experiencing the infertility.  It also affects the heart and kidneys, so this week I am getting an Echo and Renal Ultrasound to ensure it wouldn't be dangerous for me to get pregnant.  After those results come in, we'll figure out what's next.  My specialist has been willing to try fertility treatments but cautioned me that my chances would be very slim, if any, of having success with anything other than egg donation.  The Turners could mean no chance whatsoever on my own.  I am trying to hang in there...  How are things going for you?

by Sunnieraez, Dec 11, 2007 07:53PM
To: katydid74
hey, yes, i was asked by 1 of my re's to do the karotype and fragile X but haven't done it cause my primary re kinda blew it off...not in a negative way, but didn't seem too concerned b/c i have high level of anitbodies for the hashimoto thyroidis and now i tested for ANA antibody but the rhumatologist thinks it is a "false positive"? who knows. Wants an Echo, chest x ray and pulmonary function test.  i don't think he thinks i have it cause he calls it "non helpful information".  Basically nothing we can do about it now kinda thing.  My cousin tested for it too a while ago-has a 3 year old and 1.5 year old.  no high fsh though.  have you been cycling-do you get vag. ultrasounds? Take prenatal vitamins-you are young, and that is what my docs are telling me...your age has alot to do with it! don't let it screw with your head-i know it can be freaking you out as it does me, but DON't let it.  email me...bkr129@hotmail

by LJ307, Dec 12, 2007 12:33AM
cycle day 10 fsh levels are in. I"m at 25.  Very high indeed.  I'm a single woman of relatively modest income and can't afford donor egg/IVF option.   Am completely devastated.  Would like any stories from anyone who has conceived using her own eggs at or about the age of 42 with FSH in the 20's.  Anybody out there?  

by millie68, Dec 14, 2007 12:57AM
Last year August, my husband and I went to see a fertility specialist since we had been trying to get pregnant for 3 years (I was 38 last August).  My FSH level was 11.1 at that time and my periods were very irregular.  Doc prescribed hormone therapy to help produce eggs.  I was scared to death of the thought of giving myself shots in the stomach.  I prayed to God that I would end up getting pregnant naturally (without hormone treatment) and guess what!  My prayer was answered!   I ended up finding out I was pregnant in late November 2006 and now have a beautiful healthy baby boy who's 4 months old.  Don't let any OB/GYN try to discourage you all.  I've gone through that as well.  I was very depressed a couple years back after one doc said it would be very difficult for me to get pregnant because I was considered peri-menopausal.   All I can say is that miracles happen every day.  Put your faith in God rather than stress out over FSH levels!  I just found out my FSH level is now 70 four months after giving birth!!???   That's considered post-menopausal!!   Miracles do happen.    

by LJ307, Dec 15, 2007 01:56PM
Wow, that truly is amazing.  You have a miracle baby for sure!!  Congratulations!!!

by sagermom, Feb 05, 2008 02:04PM
I stronly urge "The Infertility Cure" too.  I'm learning so much in this book.  I am determine to be pregnant before 43!  (June)

by babyalive, Feb 06, 2008 12:11AM
I just purchased that book also.  And love it!!!  I'm 42, will be 43 in 3 short months and I feel the FSH rising as I type.  My last FSH cd 3 was 15.  My dr. seems to think I have a chance of pregnancy and should try for a few more months.  I go in for my 4th IUI in the next week sometime.  Good luck to all of you!!

by sagermom, Feb 06, 2008 02:22PM
To: babyalive
Good luck - and the 6th IUI was the one that worked for me - hopefully yours will be # 4!

by babyalive, Feb 06, 2008 09:37PM
Thanks Sagermom!    You've given me some hope.  Congratulations on your pregnancy!  What is/was your FSH?

by babyalive, Feb 06, 2008 09:40PM
Sagermom - Oh, I just scrolled up and saw your post from Oct.  your FSH was 22!!!!  WOWSA!!  You really, really have just made my day.  What a miracle you have.   Did the book "Inconceiveable" help you?  What were you doing to help you fertility?

by APACHI, Feb 07, 2008 12:44AM
I'm 44 and turn 45 in March, so this tells me if I'm pregnant without  infertility help, does this mean that I may not carry to term?

I am over weight which is not good, so I'm thinking ok I'm fat, so how can I be pregnant if I look like a whale.

I'm on a program that come the end of Feb, will help me to lose the weight, and after 6 months if I'm psychologically fit to have this surgery for the lap band, then comes the issue what if?

I told my husband today that he could be a daddy and there was dead silence, then I asked him how he felt that he might be a daddy and he said he's to old.

We discussed this back in Nov 07 about having a child, now he's changed his mind, it's a let down but I'm going to have a word with him when he gets home in the pm thursday.

I know its very scary at first and my second oldest sister said I'm to old and there could be complications, hell she was 40 when she had the last of her kids, and that kid is now 15 yrs old.

So what she meant to say was, by the time that kid is 15, I'll be a senior citizen lmao.

So am I making the effort, will I not be pregnant, will I lose the baby or should I just abort it?

I really hate the fact that someone, especially a family member says to me, it could end up being retarded, or still born. It crushes my heart that this may happen, but perhaps God has something better out there for me and perhaps I'm just kidding myself.

I'm a young looking, well I dont look my age (44 yr old) and when I see other women with babies and I've only been married less than a year, I envy them, but yet I realize that my weight probably maynot support it, heck my older sister was over weight and her kid weighed 11 lb's- 2oz's and today he's smarter than his older brother :P, and he's 20 yrs old.


If I am pregnant and this kid reaches age 15, I'll be 60 and collecting my pension.

by katydid74, Feb 14, 2008 01:12PM
There's almost no telling what nature will do/not do.  I just experienced my own miracle recently.  If you look at my earlier posts, I'm 33, and when my FSH level was tested on day 3, it was 30.5.  (When it had been tested at other points it the month it was as high as 65!)  Well, here I am 9 weeks pregnant!  I wish I could say I had a miracle answer for how it happened.  I was still going through testing and hadn't started any fertility treatments.  I also hadn't ready any of the books like "Inconceivable" yet.  All I was doing is temp charting.  The month it happened we were expecting nothing and got a miracle.  Maybe stress has something to do with it.  Anyway, I've had one u/s so far and got to see a heartbeat at 7 weeks.  I go back for a second u/s tomorrow and am much more hopeful since I've come this far.  Wish me luck!  Good luck to all of you out there!  

by decoratorrmp, Feb 24, 2008 08:05AM
To: all
I'm 36 with FSH level 14 and 15. Doctor said he will start IVF if next level does not come back any higher than 15. Well I am going to be getting my period in 2 weeks and and will be tested on the 3rd day of my cycle, so I have approximately 17 days to lower my fsh..Oh..no stress there! This is what I am doing after LOTS of research..2 quarts or more of H20 a day, no caffeine,alcohol or chocolate, liver detox(helps to regulate hormones), Female Complex by Nature's Answer (includes herbs to help eggs, ovaries, hormones), wheatgrss pills, extra B6, vit E, omega 3, zinc and of course a prenatal tab and walking 40 minutes a day on treadmill... I REFUSE to think that I am old and if I go back to this doctor and he says no... FSH is too high I will simply take all of my records and find somebody else that will help me..

by Vicks0410, Mar 14, 2008 08:40AM
To: all
Hi, my name is Vicki and I am new to this forum. I will be 35 in three months and am feeling very discouraged after several miscarriages (one just this past February). My FSH level has hung around 15 and it seems like everyone around us is saying we should just give up. In my heart, I just don't think that's what we should do. I could use some support/encouragement/advice from you ladies who have been there. I look forward to speaking with you guys. Vicki

by adm5337, Mar 25, 2008 02:27PM
I was just told today that my FSH level was 17.5 and I just turned 26. I feel a little better reading some of your stories. That level was from 3 years ago when we were ttc my son who is now 22 months old and my doctor never called me to tell me the result so I didnt even know I had high FSH levels and still got pregnant and have a healthy boy, so I know I can get pregnant its just a matter of when.I do think stress has a lot to do with it and I am going start seeing an acupunturist. Also my doctor didnt know what day I had my FSH drawn on so it could be wrong I go in next week if i dont get a + HPT to get an day 3 FSH level drawn.

by Vicks0410, Mar 26, 2008 07:56AM
To: adm5337
I will certainly be crossing my fingers for you that the recent news is somehow a mistake. Let us know if the acupuncture works. I am almost 35 and have had 5 miscarriages that they seem to think are linked to high FSH levels. I've been told by others to try acupuncuture, but haven't been sure if it will truly help. Hope all goes well for you.

by jenandjon, Mar 26, 2008 11:52AM
I've heard acupuncture does help.  I've also done some research that says that you need to take your highest level day 3 FSH and that is the one that you need to rely upon.  Even though you may get lower levels later, it is not an indication that FSH has "improved".  That's just what I've read.  I have heard of good results with ART working for those with elevated FSH.  Just sharing what I know and my thoughts.  Good luck everyone.

by megan36, Mar 31, 2008 12:08AM
To: all
I am 36.  I miscarried in August '07.  I tried again right away with no luck...gy/ob just said wait, wait, wait, stop stressing out blah blah blah.  I started accupuncture, reduced stress, etc.  After six months I "luckily" had a no-symptom bladder infection which led me to a urologist who sent me to a RE just two weeks ago.  It was soo lucky!!  The RE did every test possible in one week...sonogram, blood tests on day 3, HSG on day 7 and SIS on day 9.  At first he thought is was scar tissue, but that was actually minor and more concerned that FSH level is 11.  We are being aggressive (thank god!!)  and doing surgery on thursday to remove scar tissue (so less risk of miscarriage) and then starting fertility shots in two weeks and IVF in four weeks. I was so sad about the egg situation...adjusting to the realization that I will be lucky to have one healthy baby,  But also so thankful to know what I am dealing with and have a plan of action.  I can't beleive that FSH test is not part of the regular annual checkup after 30.  Good lord, after 35 they want to do an anal probe, but still not checking FSH levels???  Anyway, I am very inspired reading all the stories on this site, I am getting both books Inconceivable and the Infertility Cure. Good luck to everyone out there dealing with infertility!!

by jbrooks39, Mar 31, 2008 06:37AM
nourishing the ovaries back to health


When we are trying to have a baby hear from the doctor that our FSH is too high it sounds like the death knoll.  

Is FSH really the only accurate measure of egg quality?   It is not the final measure.  Real egg quality is only measured by one thing: a baby.   Also, remember hormones fluctuate.  Your health is not the snapshot just taken of your FSH level.  Your health is a moving picture.  And you can start moving the picture in a new direction.

You can restore and enhance your fertility.   Your doctor can not.

This is not an unreasonable or outrageous statement.  If you were getting sick every month, one headcold after another, what could your doctor do?  He or she could offer you antibiotics, but can the doctor build your immune system?  Can the doctor make you stronger?  No.  But you can.  There is a parallel here.  The doctor can overstimulate your ovaries, putting everything on fast forward, but can he actually build your fertility?  No.  But you can.  You can do things to enhance your fertility that your doctor, as much as he or she may want to, can not do.

You can build back your energy, renew your cervical mucus and sexual fluids, eliminate PMS symptoms, sleep better, bring back a normal flow for your cycle.  Oriental women have know how to do these things for thousands of years.  They use herbs, healing foods and special exercises.  These are things you can learn with only a small investment of time and expense.  You can nuture your body and renew your fertility, and in the process your FSH levels will fall.  

We have helped many women to lower their FSH.  

Here are some samples of the Fertility Mailings we send to our customers to let them know how other women taking Radiant Wonder herbs are progressing.

A high FSH reading is merely a measure of your ability to respond to FSH drugs.

High FSH (above 10) is an obstacle for Western Medical Reproductive Technology because it means your body will not tolerate the drug stimulation. But according to the clinical experience of expert Chinese herbalists FSH can be above the Clomid Challenge test minimum and not inhibit the ability to get pregnant.

Also, FSH can be artificially increased by treatments such as Clomid.

According to Traditional Chinese Herbalism, fertility drugs deplete the body's yin energy, sometimes creating what the Chinese call Yin Deficiency combined with Liver Chi Stagnation, bringing symptoms such as hot flashes, irritability, mood swings, headaches, insomnia.

If your body is given the proper support through special energy exercises,  the best herbal nutrition and recommended healing foods added to the diet,  high FSH caused by pharmaceutical drugs will usually rebalance in as little as 2-3 months.  It is rarely difficult.  And this artificial imbalance can rebalance for women of all ages.

A woman with high FSH is often told that she has “premature ovarian failure”.

However, if the ovaries are actually healthy ,with the right herbal formulas, exercises and maybe some acupuncture or acupressure you can do yourself,  we often see the ovarian function spring back, produce higher levels of estrogen and produce that true measure of healthy eggs – a baby.  

It is important to learn how to keep your body strong and balanced.  

Instead of focusing on individual hormones you learn the art of bringing balance to your entire endocrine system.  This rejuvenates the complicated cascade of hormones leading up to the implantation of the fertilized egg.

A Radiant Wonder Fertility Program will enhance your fertility dramatically.  

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by Vicks0410, Mar 31, 2008 07:32AM
To: jbrooks39
I don't think you should be using this sight as an advertisement for your business...the women on this site are coming here for a place to lay out their troubles and shouldn't have to deal with wondering if people really care or are here just to sell something.

by jbrooks39, Mar 31, 2008 10:44AM
To: Vicks0410
i am not trying to sell anything.i found this on the web and wanted to share. if there is ant info we can share,we can post it here to help someone.

by acboston, Apr 07, 2008 03:09PM
To: i am 30 and my highest fsh of 19
On top of that DH has  a low norm morphology of 2%.   I fell helpless.  I am considering changing docs and taking this to chinese herbs and accupuncture. I too heard this helps many people conceive. ALso fertility aid is said to help male fertility but my dh is totally against taking herbs.  I am frustrated in every since. I think i am making myself sick.

I been to many websites but not many discuss high FSH and I too heard that you should rely on your highest FSH to discuss treatments etc. I cant believe this.  I mean i have constant 24 day cycles  and are vvery regular i only had one cycle go above that 31 days but my doc thought it was because i had a cyst?

Anyone relate?

by buttercup14, Apr 07, 2008 04:53PM
Hello All.  I'm new to this group.  I've been reading some of your stories and and feeling a little hopeful after spending the whole weekend being completely depressed.  On 3/3 I had a lap for removal of stage 4 endo.  My uterus, tubes, ovaries and rectum were all fused together.  Doc removed everything best he could keeping in mind my goal is to get pregnant. He also removed 5 small fibroids and some endometrioma/cysts from ovaries.  Both my ovaries were almost consumed with endo. I had a 3 day FSH last Thursday and it was 28.2.  I was devastated.  It was 7.5 last year. Apparently the removal of all the stuff on my ovaries damaged them.  I'm 38 years old and feel like everything that can gp wrong has.  I have an appointment with an RE at the end of the month.  I'd like to be aggressive in my own care as I can though.  What would you ladies suggest?

by kakool, Apr 15, 2008 09:34AM
I am 38 was diagnosed with premature orian failure.
i used Ovulex for nearly 3 months and got pregnant.
it only cost me £70 compare to nearly £2000 i had spent on seeing infertility specialist

by tiggernjill, Apr 23, 2008 10:35AM
just went to fertility specialist, got my fsh levels back,they're at 11.9.doctor told me i have a hailmary's chance of ivf working.i am 38 and just recently found out that my mom went thru menopause at the age of 38.her menstraul cycles ceased.not very hopeful,but wandering if i should get a second opinion?

by Vicks0410, Apr 24, 2008 07:43AM
To: tiggernjill
Yes, please get a second opinion. My FSH has been 15 at various times and one doctor wouldn't even talk to me. The doctor I'm seeing now considers that just one piece of the puzzle. We went through treatments and did get pregnant. Unfortunately we suffered a miscarriage, but at least we got there. You might need something to help strengthen the quality of your eggs, but I definitely wouldn't give up without speaking to someone else. good luck!

by dakjilsim, Apr 24, 2008 02:01PM
Hello.  It helps so much to hear from woman who have experienced similar situations.  I am so grateful for this forum.  

I am 38 and have had 2 mc's in the past year.  My FSH came back and 10.5 and unfortunatley we cannot afford infertility treatments. I have been very discouraged and depressed with the possibilty that I may not be able to have another child.  I have been blessed with 3 wonderful children but still can't help but feeling that we're missing someone in our family.  I truly belived there is a little soul who is waiting to join our family.  

I would be open to natural remedies as I'm running out of time and hope.  I'm trying to remain positive and open to God's plan but it can be so discouraging when everyone around you is or seems to be pregnant.  When you're over 35 that clock starts ticking loudly and i feel as though my time is running out....

by Vicks0410, Apr 25, 2008 07:47AM
To: dakjilsim
I definitely feel your pain! We have had 4 miscarriages in 3 1/2 years and it can seem like you're walking uphill in mud at times. My FSH has ranged from 12 to 15, but I also think it depends on what lab you are using. Fortunately I have a doctor who looks at more than just one number but instead the whole picture. Have you tried Clomid or Femara/Letrozole? The reason I bring those up is Clomid is very inexpensive and Femara is normally covered by insurance. Those are ones I have tried b/c we can't really afford many treatments either. Good luck and keep your chin up!

by Evabean, Apr 25, 2008 10:43AM
To: Cruis2211
This is really to all trying to conceive with high FSH levels.  I went off birth control pills in 06 never had a period on my own after that several periods induced with progesterone. eventually went to a fertility doc my FSH was 98.3 after several induced periods my lowest FSH was 57.6.  I was a basket case.  All I wanted was to get pregnant.  My fertility doc said he knew of a study done in Australia on women with high FSH levels and IUI's.  These women were given compounded DHEA which brought down their FSH levels and were able to conceive with IUI.  He wanted to give it a shot.  I took the DHEA for 30 days tested my FSH level and it was 7.2!!!  We induced a period day 3 blood FSH level was 9.4 that was 11/5/07 I had my first IUI on 11/14/07 and had a positive pregnancy test on 11/27/07!!!  I am now 25 weeks pregnant with a baby girl and I owe my life to my fertility doctor and the specific women in Australia who started this study.  Too all women who are having trouble geting pregnant with high FSH levels DO NOT GIVE UP!!!! talk to your doctor about DHEA.

by Evabean, Apr 25, 2008 11:35AM
To: Cruis2211
I forgot to mention in my above post I took Femara before the IUI done 11/14/07.

by aasia56, May 18, 2008 12:28AM
hi my fsh level is tooooooooo high .25 im m very tense .now doc gave me climen (hrt)and ask to come back afetr two month .now i want to ask u people dose hrt helps to reduse fsh level?

by aasia56, May 18, 2008 12:32AM
and plese some one can tell me does hmg injection cause high fsh level .becos doc gave me hmg injection and famara .and after this treatment she check my fsh level and it was high . im 33 year old

by NinfaD, May 27, 2008 04:59PM
This is Ninfa; I am 38 My FSH level is 21, Doc have given no hope; we have no mony for egg doners; my hsband has low S Count; we have tried more then 11 years; but nothing, some one please help us. Thanks.

by Tomma_66, Jun 15, 2008 04:38PM
hi ,I am Tomma_66 , Iam 42 yr old and my FSH was high for the last one yr after I aborted , I did IVF twice  but failed bec. nooooooooooo follicules at allllllllll , and my Doc. gave me proglytoun and drope down to 6 but the Doc upset me and she told me dont try any thing and you will not conceive . I am soooooooo depressed but I will try for 3rd time .. did any one of you had the same no follicules and then she got pregnant?????????

by allip68, Jun 17, 2008 01:32PM
To: cruis2211
At 39 1/2 years old, I had an FSH of 14 and, based on what the doctors said, basically gave up on conceiving naturally.  3 months later I got pregnant naturally!  We only had unprotected sex for a total of about 6 months (before and after my FSH reading).  By the way, when I was single at 38 years old, I did IVF to freeze eggs.  I had an FSH of 11.7 and IVF did not work well for me; I think that IS because of the high FSH.  I produced only 2 eggs, which both fertilized.  However, it just goes to show (it seems) that FSH might mean you won't respond well to IVF but you can definitely still get pregnant.  Best of luck to you.

by ding123, Jun 20, 2008 01:23AM
Hi, Today I got a bad news that I have FSH level was 21 on my day 3 last month, I am 28 yrs old, me and my husband are totally devstated.
we were try to conceive for the last 8 months. any suggestions? can I be still preg? any hope :(

by Suzie0224, Jun 20, 2008 05:12PM
I have had 5 m/c's.  I have never had a negative pregnancy test so getting pregnant is not my issue - staying pregnant is.  I have one daughter (7) - dr. thinks I was just lucky.  My dr. also thinks that the m/c's are a result of genetic deformity because of an elevated FSH.  $30,000 for IVF is outside of our ability right now.  What natural remedies are out there?  

by Sunnieraez, Jun 21, 2008 06:51AM
To: suzie0224
I think it would be beneficial to seek out a new RE.  I disagree with the "genetic deformity" comment....especially since you already have a 7 year old child.
Get a 2nd opinion.  Also, did this Dr. give you a Karotype test to determine if you indeed do have genetic issues?
Don't get down on his comment-it is good that you can get pg-see another RE!
Good luck!

by tiggernjill, Jun 23, 2008 10:10PM
just went to the doctor to check how many follicles i had after doing ivf.i only had 2 follicles so they wouldn't go to egg retrival.they said my biggest follicle was only 9mm.i'm 38 with a fsh level of 11.9.the doctor said i didn't have a chance to get pregnant on my own.i don't understand.they had me on 150 units of follistem and 1 vial of repronex.why won't he up my dosage.if i produced 2 follicles,he said i only need 3 follicles to do an egg retrival.do i listen to this doctor or get a second opinion?  my daughter was born 6 years ago & she was only a 8mm follicle.could i have tried to get pregnant on my own with these 2 follicles since he wouldn't go to egg retrival?

by allip68, Jun 24, 2008 01:20PM
To: tiggernjill
I would NOT necessarily believe your doctor that you can't get pregnant naturally.  I got pregnant naturally with an FSH of 15.  (I had thought when I wrote my post above it was 14 but just checked my notes).  I am 39 years old and only had unprotected sex for about 4-5 months.  I did an egg freeze cycle at 38 1/2 years old (when I was single) with an FSH of 11.7 and only produced 2 eggs (but I froze both of them).  I did have four follicles at one point which then went to three; they gave me the option of going forward although they weren't encouraging.  I just read an article the other day that said FSH is only an indicator of how many eggs you produce; NOT an indicator of how likely it is for you to get pregnant so this medical paper recommended that doctors go ahead with trying even if very few eggs/follicles.  There could be one good egg in there and that's all you need!!  My friend who is 40 had an FSH of 5 (so very good!) and sure enough she produced tons of eggs (16) but none were good enough to get her pregnant.  Again, this paper said, and I agree, that FSH indicates how many eggs you will produce but there is still hope even if only a couple eggs!
By the way, my doctors also told me that I had very low odds of getting pregnant even with FSH and would likely have to use a donor egg.  I had already asked my sister to be an egg donor and had given up on trying to get pregnant.  2 months later I was!
Good luck to you!!  If I can find that paper, I will post it here.

by Suzie0224, Jun 24, 2008 08:46PM
To: Sunnieraez
My husband and I both had genetic testing done already.  Neither of us had any issues.  This dr. seems to think since my last m/c baby was 69XXX triploidy (means my egg that was released and fertilized already contained 46 chromosomes), that my eggs are not viable.  Does ANYONE know how and where to research homeopathic / alternative medicine for these kind of issues?  My concern is the "quality" of my eggs.  Desperately seeking some advice and help.

by Nicka115, Jul 02, 2008 04:38AM
Hi
Just got blood results back today and my fsh was 87.1.  Was told that I would not be ableto get pregnant and need tolook at HRT or estrogen only Pill.  
However I am not willing to sit down and do nothing.  My argument is hwo do doctors know that you can't get pregant with high fsh levels when its not a routine test that is done.  There could be many women out there who have high fsh levels and have got pregnant but we don't know about them because infertility is not a problem for them.
I'm not giving up hope.  I am on day 70 of my cycle and my longest cycle has been 108 days and my shortest cycle 15.  They are not all anovulatory and sometimes I have ovulated fine.
I refuse to give.
I am trying yoga, reflexology, and will look at some chinese herbs or something.  The way I look at it I have nothing to lose but loads to gain!
Nikki

by prevatt77, Jul 02, 2008 07:39AM
My FSH was 16 and I'm 40 years old and 14 weeks pregnant.  Never give up hope.  I was also on Clomid for one month, which was the month I concieved.  Good Luck!  It will all work out.

by Rajo7, Jul 05, 2008 10:28PM
To: Nicka and prevatt
I was dx with high fsh of 14 last june.  I have been doing alot of b/w and u/s and cancell couple times my treatment b/c fsh went even higher.  the highest now is 26.5 I am scare. But when i see someone like Nicka who is determined made to feel that i have hope.  and prevatt thank you for your encouragement.
This is a test.
I will be back with more about me.
thanks

by MirnaCaballero, Jul 07, 2008 03:07PM
To: tiggernjill
I am 34, my FSH levels were 18 and my doctor had me on 150 follistim & 150 (2 vials) of repronex for 14 days.  After one week one doctor told me to give up & consider an egg donor.  I continued with the medicine & when I went back 2 days later they found 2 follicles & 2 days after that they found a third.  My nurse told me when they had found the two that they don't normally go in for anything under 3 but I could insist that they go in anyway.  I had my egg retreival on Monday and they got 3 eggs & when I called in on Tuesday all 3 eggs had fertilized.  I went back on Thursday for the transfer and my doctor put all 3 in.  I will find out 7/15 if I am pregnant.  No matter what happens I know that I will do this again and will not be as anxious since I know what to expect.  I was devestated when that doctor told me to consider an egg donor but I will never let another doctor get me down like that again because ultimately it is up to God to see what he has for me.  If you don't like a doctors style just go somewhere else where they have a good reputation or you feel right.  

by tiggernjill, Jul 07, 2008 10:50PM
i'm suppose to get my second opinion this thursday7/10.very worried he's just going to tell me the same thing the last doctor told me.no chance to get pregnant!especially because after stopping my last ivf cycle and only producing 2 follicles.i was suppose to get my period 2 weeks ago and still there is no sign of it!starting to think those 2 follicles were my last chance of getting pregnant!   does anyone know what this fsh level really shows?what's the difference between an fsh level of 12 verses 30?

by Suzie0224, Jul 09, 2008 11:19AM
To: EVERYONE
Ok, I got more test results.  To recap, I have had 6 pregnancies - 5 of them resulted in m/c. I have never had a negative preg. test.  I get pregnant very easily but I've lost 5 around 10 weeks.  My FSH is 9.82, genetic testing is normal, all blood work is normal EXCEPT - my AMH.  My AMH is .62 - very low/indetectable.  What I don't understand is that my FSH is considered high normal but my AMH is horribly low.  I don't get how I can get pregnant so easy but for some reason I m/c. I ovulate regularly.  None of this makes sense to me. A high FSH and low AMH should mean that I cannot conceive.  AUGH...

by tina1047, Jul 09, 2008 03:09PM
To: Everyone
HI there - I am 37 and in my second cycle of injectables.  The Dr. told me today age is against me and not sure if this is going to work - my FSH was 17 last month and 15 today.  I have a 3 1/2 year old daughter now and did get pregnant in March on Clomid.  Unfortunately, it was eptopic and I lost my right tube.   I have been seeing this group since December and cannot believe they don't measure FSH until injectables.   If you are going to a fertility specialist and they KNOW this could be an issue, don't you think they would track that???
I am really depressed, but after reading your stories, it is giving me hope.  
Many women mentioned alternative medicines, herbs, etc. - what did you take and when in your cycle?  
Is IVF our only solution for high FSH or is that also a smaller chance?

by allip68, Jul 09, 2008 06:16PM
Do anything you can do to reduce stress (although I know it's hard!).  IVF (freezing cycle) didn't work well for me in my opinion because I was so stressed about my age and high FSH.  Only when I had NO stress in my life (even had quit tttc) did I get accidentally pregnant.  Yoga, vacation, fun with your husband.... don't believe everything the doctors say about FSH!  Good luck.

by Summer0708, Jul 27, 2008 02:25AM
To: Everyone
Hi. I've always been very hesitant to go on these forums, but I have to say I found reading through these posts incredibly helpful. Thanks to everyone for sharing their very personal stories.

I just turned 40 two weeks ago and have very high FSH as well as irregular cycles. My FSH has fluctuated over the past year, but is essentially on the high side. When I first started talking with doctors they all said the same thing so many women here have heard - the chances are very low you will ever get pregnant with your own eggs given your FSH. Of course, I was devastated. I still struggle with this from time to time, but through it all I refuse to believe it can't happen and have been working with an acupuncturist and, more recently (this year), taking herbs.

I also tried a cycle of fertility drugs (Letrazol) in February. My doctor at the time basically made it sound like taking the drug was a complete waste of time. She assured me it wouldn't help at all because of my stats. My husband and I decided to pursue it anyway - figured there was nothing to lose given it wasn't invasive (a pill taken once daily) and the cost was minimal. Much to the doc's surprise, my ovaries did respond and I produced a number of follicles in February and March - each month saw a follicle grow in excess of 20mm which I believe is considered good although not a total guarantee. I tried IUI each month (also tried again a few weeks ago - w/o drugs). Unfortunately, we haven't had success...yet. However, this experience taught me a valuable lesson - don't believe everything doctors tell you. The fact that I produced follicles despite my doctor's prognosis, proved that even with so much info available docs and science DO NOT have ALL of the answers. The body is a mystery and each day I hear or read another success story, I believe more and more the body is capable of amazing things -  look at some of the amazing stories posted above!! And for all of these I'm certain there are probably hundreds if not thousands like them out there.

Going back to my fertility drug story in February, as a result of that experience I changed doctors - felt the one I had was too negative and wasn't invested enough in my situation. To that point, I am now a believer in the theory that negativity is as harmful as stress in this process. Had we listened to her we wouldn't have thought anything would make a difference.

Ultimately, everyone needs to follow their better judgment, heart and gut; pursue what feels right, whether it's a specific treatment plan or the person/doctor you choose to work with. Good luck to all - and never stop believing that everyone deserves good things in life!

PS: Don't know if many of you have listened to The Secret but I highly recommend the audiobook (per my friend, the audio version is better than the book - that's rare!). I have also read Inconceivable, which was mentioned in a few posts above, and wholeheartedly agree that it's a great inspiration! In both of these tools there seemed to be a common thread...as difficult as it may sometimes be, one has to "believe" and have unending faith that anything is possible.

by just zackpie, Jul 28, 2008 12:39PM
To: All
Hi All,

Just wanted to comment. I am on BHRT and am very excited about some changes that have happened. I am 39 and a year ago my Progesterone was 0.7 and in March not much higher than that (I don't think I have been above a full 1 in a long time!). After being on natural Progesterone from a compounding pharmacy (200mg) my Progesterone is 4.0! Actually a normal range for day 25 of my cycle. In March my FSH was 11. I found out yesterday it is  now 4.9! I am taking a transdermal cream of 15 MI 6MG-E2(5)E3(5)-TEST 1 MG PLO GL. Which in simple terms is estrogen and testosterone. I cannot believe I have been to an OB/GYN, an RE and then I see a doc that does Bioidentical Horomones and my Progesterone and FSH are at normal levels.
Now I have to work on my HGH, those numbers are not so hot. But it is all a part of the big picture. I am hoping early 2009 my body will have a healthy horomone balance and we can get preggers without an RE. My doc swears if I continue to see him I won't get menopause ;) lol We will see about that. Although he said before I saw him I was on my way there. I hope this helps someone.

by belana, Aug 08, 2008 10:38AM
To: Prevatt77 and alyp68
Thank you for your stories. I'm 39,no children and have been trying for 10 months. Most of my tests have come back great. I have 4-5 follicles. Uterus is great. But found out today that FSH is 14. That was only one test. Will be tested again next cycle, but dr has me worried, esp since I've had 3 bio-chemical pregnancies - urine tests a few days before period were positive but I got my period anyway. I'm going for a 2nd opinion later this month, and will try the wheat grass and health foods. Def think de-stressing is necessary but it's so hard.  Think it will help if I get acupuncture right before ovulation?  Has anyone else had multiple bio-chemical pregnancies?

by allip68, Aug 09, 2008 11:51AM
To: belana
Because of my own experience, I would not be too worried if I were you with your FSH of 14, especially with your other good tests.    Studies have shown that acupuncture DOES lead to higher chances of conception, so I think it's worth a try but only if it doesn't increase your anxiety/pressure related to getting pregnant.  The point is to relax you and destress!  

(For me, when I tried to get pregnant, I did acupuncture, herbs, etc. and it didn't work. But once again I think it was because of the stress.  As I said before, I got pregnant as soon as I had given up and truly became OK with the idea of egg donor).

Please keep us posted.


by JimminyKricket44, Aug 28, 2008 09:33PM
To: Everyone
This is a very interesting forum.  I've been trying to get pregnant for two years now using Follistim, Menopur, Ganerelix, HCG. I had to stop using Clomid b/c it triggered my migraines.  I am 43 now, and my blood work came back with a high FSH level (23) for the first time. I've always had a low FSH level (below 10) and have never had any other issues.  My only problem seems to be my age, b/c there doesn't seem to be any other issues.  We are using IUIs because I cannot complete the act of sex due to another condition called interstitial cystitis.  It's a very painful bladder condition and sex is impossible for me.  I've had two IVF treatments, one of which produced empty follicle syndrome.  That was a year ago and we couldn't afford to continue with IVF (no insurance).

My questions is, has anyone experienced ovarian fatigue and later came back to normal after a break?  I cannot believe I haven't gotten pregnant and am wondering if my RE is doing all the right things or doing too many things.

Any comments would be appreciated.

by maedchen1102, Sep 04, 2008 02:20PM
To: Everyone
Thank you everyone for sharing your stories...it was really encouraging to me to read this and to know I'm not the only know going through this.  This morning, my doctor told me after tests done yesterday that my FSH levels are 138 and almost unlikely I'd be able to conceive. Needless to say, I'm devasted and very sad but still hopeful. My period has stopped for 3 months and has been on and off for the past 2 years. Within the months of my stopped period, I have hot flashes and I'm only 37. I'm going to try to try the chinese herbal supplements, acupuncture and wheat germ juice/pills and know they will help. I'm still remaining positive and choosing to believe...  Has anyone been through this where their FSH levels were this high and still had a miracle in their lives?  Thank you to all!

by rjsmamma, Sep 10, 2008 04:42PM
To: Everyone
I am a 33 year old and 3 years ago i was told after alot of money spent on infertilty treatments that i would be in menapause in about 2years well it finally hit. i had my laast period in May and have been suffering with hot flashes everysince so i went to the doctor and had blood work done and my FSH level is at a 39 and my lh level is at a 27 so i am in menapause but he wants me not to take the hormone therapy and instead has put me back on the pill since i am so young. i was and still am very devasted it makes me feel very old. i came on this site to find out what all this means and it has been very helpful. thank you so much!!!

by PrayingtoGod4Ababy, Sep 22, 2008 07:47PM
To: Everyone
My wife is 42, I'm 40. We have been married for 10 months and trying to have a baby of our own (she had 2 other normal pregnancies earlier in life). I've never had any children.

She had some blood work done about 3 months after we were married. We were told that her FSH was about 50. We went to a fertility specialist and they got her levels down to around 10 or so (I don't remember). She started taking shots but they couldn't find any eggs. I was checked and the first time I was told that I was no good (so to speak), the second test I flew off the charts (which was GREAT news).

About 3 weeks ago after being about 40+ days into her cycle she did more blood work. They said we aren't pregnant and her FSH was at 81. Today is about day 65 or so and still no period.

I've prayed a lot that maybe the test was wrong and she really is pregnant.

Thank you for your encouraging stories, it's really what I need tonight. Also to the person who talked about DHEA - we read a lot on the net about it tonight and even ran to Rite Aid to get some and try it out.

Please pray, babydust, whatever that we can have one of our own.

Thank you.

Jim

by PrayingtoGod4Ababy, Sep 22, 2008 08:17PM
For more information about DHEA click on this link to see the video. It's from the The Early Show on CBS on 8/8/08

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4318538n

by prevatt77, Sep 22, 2008 09:10PM
My FSH was 16 and I'm 40 years old.  I will be 41 at delivery of this child and I'll be 26 weeks pregnant.  Sometimes I don't think doctors know wha the heck they are talking about.  I'm so blessed to have one of the best RE doctor's in Maryland.  He took very good care of me.  Don't give up hope.

Debbie

by Becky722, Oct 09, 2008 09:38AM
I am a 40 year old woman who has been seeing a fertility specialist.  I was informed that my FSH levels were 16 for two months straight and then flew up to 25 for the third month.  The specialist is telling me that because my FSH levels are so high that my eggs are not of quality to concieve.  They recommend I look towards an egg donor...which I am just beside myself.  First, I wanted to experience the entire birth on my own, second I wanted my own child from my husband and I.  Not someone else's.  I am in a state of shock and I am depressed, I am running out of time.  I feel like I have been robbed of all the money I have paid for to receive this news, which I also feel I have been robbed of my future.  Can anyone suggest or help direct me on  different path?  

All suggestions are welcomed.

by CathyJack, Oct 09, 2008 11:59AM
To: Cathy
I definitely agree that diet & yoga have everything to do with bringing down your FSH.  I'm 36, had an FSH 24 and now it's 12 and just did my 1st IUI.  I followed the advice in "Inconceivable".  I highly recommend that book...it really motivated me to take control of my situation.  I'll know the results in just over a week. I'm very hopeful but also know that if it fails I have my plan, and it's working!

by cupcake2009, Oct 18, 2008 09:01AM
hi
my name is Amal 39 years , this is my first day here , today my doctor told me that my FSH is to high its about 45 , it was 6 one years ago ,and because my FSH levels are so high that my eggs are not of quality to concieve,I feel a little better reading some of your stories :) and i want to ask where i can get books like "Inconceivable ?
and if i want to use chines herps from where and what they call it??
one more thing can i join a clup for exercise??
my english is bad sorry for that :)

by cupcake2009, Oct 20, 2008 03:29PM
what is the IUI ?

by sjmmk, Oct 20, 2008 07:11PM
To: becky722
As a former egg donor, I find myself in a similar infertile situation 7 years after I donated to an infertile couple.  How's that for irony?  Please don't rule out egg donor if that's your only option, after all, it's still an option.  You will experience the birth from beginning to end, it's only some borrowed chromosomes to get you started.  You will have 9 glorious months to experience this baby as your own. I have elevated FSH levels and my insurance will currently pay for some infertility treatments, however I could never afford donor egg.  If you can afford it and if that's your only option, go for it. Good luck to you.

by 3InTexas, Oct 22, 2008 04:55PM
Wanted to tell everyone here my story.   I was 33 years old, tried to conceive for 2+ years.  Had 4 miscarriages.  FSH of 13.5.   Went to best doc in town.  3 failed IUI's 3 failed IVF's  450 amps of Follistim.  Deemed to be a very poor responder, chances of conception less than 5%.   Doc was willing to keep trying if I wanted too.  Have great insurance which pays for unlimited IUI and 6 IVF's..   Took a month off.   Got pregnant the old fashioned way. Told it was a one in a million miracle. Healthy baby.  Declined sterilization during C-section (I'm infertile, right??)  Got pregnant again  6 months after giving birth and am in the second trimester.   Realize this might just infuriate some, its not fair, right??  But really my intention is that you just NEVER know.  It was a very dark and frustrating time in my life, it is thankfully behind me, and I wish you all the best.

by allip68, Oct 23, 2008 11:23AM
To: 3intexas
Hi 3in TX, Congratulations on your two pregnancies despite high FSH, etc!  I have a (sort of unrelated, sort of related) question...were you breastfeeding when you got pregnant the second time?  If so, how frequently?  I'm 40 years old and in my 3rd trimester w/my first baby, and we want a second child so know we don't have much time after the baby's born to try but I also want to breastfeed, which can slow the return of ovulation.  (My current unborn baby is also a miracle baby since I had an FSH of 15 at 39 years old but got pregnant naturally.)
Thank you!

by number44esquire, Oct 24, 2008 12:34PM
Please help! I am 44 years old and two years ago my fsh was 14.4. I just went to see a fertility doctor and he said that it is too late now. To consider adoption or an egg donor.   I am having my FSH levels check next month.

by jimmysjen, Oct 25, 2008 07:39AM
Thank you for having this forum. I have been upset for the past couple of weeks. My husband and I have decided to have a baby after 10 years of marraige. I am now 39 and I knew I didn't have much time. My mother conceived my sister at 42, so I wasn't too worried. But then I went to the doctor and then things just got ou of wack. I blame the doctors office. I didn't receive my results for 2 weeks, then when I went in to take another test, I met with who I thought was a doctor. I asked for my results and she told me that I was perimenopausal and my fsh was 16. . I dd not know what that meant. I asked her and she said that I can not concieve on my own, but not to worry, she heads up the egg donation and embryo adoption program. I sat there in shock listiening to her. I felt that I was being sold to. Do you think that these reproductive doctors, look at someone that may be a canidate and just say that is a perfect buyer? I told her that I would not be able to afford anything expensive, she was like you can always use credit. BTW she was only a Physicians Assistant.

by NikiSilva, Nov 09, 2008 11:59PM
I have just had my FSH levels checked since we have had a hard time conceiving after losing 2 babies last year.  The first test showed my levels at 68 and the second time at 47.  I am 40 and have not had any kind of problems with irregular periods until I lost the babies.  The doctor said he had never seen such high levels in a woman my age.  These are post menopausal leveIs! He also said he can't see how I ever got pregnant to start with. Of course the next bit was a big sale on how IVF is my only hope. I am going to go to an endocrinlogist to check out if my hypothyroidism is messing with my pituitary gland function.  I can only find a little on line about the two glands and how TSH levels can throw off fsh levels. For the first time in 18 years, my  docotor needs to LOWER my thyroid dose and here is this crazy fsh level.  Can anybody tell me if fixing one level will help the other?  Is it possible to  have a wonky fsh level and still be fertile?

by jenny1967875, Nov 30, 2008 02:05PM
I am 41 and was told in Aug. that I had an FSH level of 17.1. I had wanted to go for an egg freeze cycle but was told my day 2 FSH had to be under 13 to be considered for it. I made a concerted effort for the following three months to remove stress from my life (as much as possible) and to eat properly, take vitamins and herbs plus have acupuncture at least one time per week. For Nov., my day 2 FSH was at 12. I started taking meds for the egg freeze but was developing fewer than the eight follicles I was told was necessary to pursue the procedure at the hospital I was going to, so I found another doc who would freeze the two mature eggs they found. I am trying to go for another egg freeze cycle in Jan. 2009 and am hoping to get a better harvest, although I am happy to have at least one more egg to freeze then. All of this is to say that it seems to be possible in some instances to lower FSH levels. For me, changing my lifestyle has made me feel healthier all-around.

by NikiSilva, Dec 03, 2008 09:07AM
To: jenny1967875
Hi.  I am so happy for your levels dropping like that.  I have been trying all the things you mentioned except the acupuncture and my levels have dropped by 5, which isn't much considering that I need to get much much lower.  I am wondering what kind of acupuncture you have been doing as I want to start that, but I don't want to pay a lot of money trying to find the right person and the right acupuncture.  I don't even know what to ask for.  Does your acupuncturist have a name for what they are doing? I really feel like I need to be more in the know about acupuncture before I embark on my search.

by jenny1967875, Dec 04, 2008 04:01PM
To: NikiSilva
Hi, I suggest you try to find out through friends whether there are some acupuncturists who are good with fertility issues in your area. That's what I did first. Then when I saw the acupuncturist, I explained my situation (including high FSH). The practice is very holistic, so the acupuncturist suggested changes to my diet, plus some vitamins and Chinese herb mixtures I could take to help balance certain body energies. Once a week she would give me acupuncture but depending on what she was sensing (by checking my pulses, my tongue and according to where I was in my cycle) she would change where she placed the needles. I hope I'm at least answering your question in part. I only have started learning about acupuncture myself! Good luck!

by NikiSilva, Dec 05, 2008 04:42PM
To: jenny1967875
Thanks.  I think I am ready to start. I have only found three places here in town that do acupuncture at all so maybe I'll just go in and get afeel for the places and the  accupuncturists. I'm also really glad to see that you found a doctor who will freeze your eggs.  The doc I saw wouldn't even take a look at my eggs.  To him, I'm 40, and it's not worth bothering with my "old" eggs.  It seems like one has to just keep asking around and trying to find someone who cares about what's important to their patients.  Trying to eliminate stress while on this crusade is quite a chore. :) Good luck with everything.

by stephilat, Dec 05, 2008 09:38PM
i'm 36 and have done the clomid, IUI's and just completed an unsuccessful IVF.  Doc office called me to confirm that I was not pregnant and if I were to try again there would be a 10% that I would get pregnant because my FSH level is too high.  I have been reading this forum for the past couple of days and feel that there is still hope.  I do have one question... what is "RE"?  I feel that the fertility office that I going to is supportive and I was just curious what the RE was.
Can you also tell me where I can find wheat grass pills?  I have checked with many locations in my area and can't find anyone that supplies/carries it.

by NothingIsDifficultForTheLord, Jan 28, 2009 06:10AM
To: everyone
Hi
I got married 10 years ago and found out my husband has erectional dyfunction whch means we cannot have sex.  I tried IVF 2003 and produced some follicles with 2 eggs but was told that were not strong enough.  Saw someone else and was told my fsh was too high my only option egg donation. I have done a test another test last month and my fsh was 22.5 but doctor was possible but not fertility expert.  Contacted an ivf clinic and told exactly what the previous dr have said.  I know and belive that i am fertile and can conceive but because of the problem with hubby it devasated.  Is someone else in this same situation with hubby?  and what is IUI?

by NothingIsDifficultForTheLord, Jan 28, 2009 06:11AM
i forgot to say i was 40 last year

by indiabound, Feb 04, 2009 07:10AM
To: Inconceivable book question
I found one from 1998 and one from 2001 on Ebay.....which is better or are they same?
Thanks so much!

by CathyJack, Feb 06, 2009 07:37PM
I posted earlier and guess what - I'm pregnant!  My FSH was in the high 20s, I'm 37 (I posted the info on Inconceivable back in Oct) and basically was turned down for any fertility treatments.  My doctor was talking to me about early menupause and boy was I depressed.  But I took control of the situation and followed the advice from the book and I really believe it helped.  I changed my diet, cut back on sugar and caffeine, drank so much green tea and wheat grass every day, did fertility yoga, acupuncture, wore a fertility crystal (I don't think this has anything to do with it but I was willing to try anything), took vitamins coenzyme and lipic acid and now I'm 8 weeks...so don't despair ladies!  My fsh the month I conceived was lower but still far from ideal at 18...this new approach to life is so healthy and I felt great and it's so good for the body and mind so what do you have to lose.  It's very empowering to know you can take control into your own hands when doctors say your chances are slim...I'm convinced a healthy diet is imperative. So please give it a go...read the website www.fertileheart.com, the author's site.  read about it and buy the book...it's truly inspiring.  Good luck!  

by nannic, Feb 06, 2009 10:56PM
Ladies,
In Oct. I was told I had a High FSH Level (28). I was also told to find an egg donor. I fell to my knees and cried my eyes out for two days and then decided to put my faith back where it belongs instead of trusting in ONE doctors voice. I did a lot of research on line and found that most women who have shared their stories and gotten pregnant did get acupuncture. So that's what I did. It has been almost 5 months and this month is the first month I have ovulated without meds and I'm now pregnant! I  can't say anything more than that. Don't give up hope and put your faith back in Gods hands because he is the one who will have the last say not a doctor.  

Also, just FYI.. The acupunture helped me to not be so irritable. I feel so much more at peace and overall just happier. I'm going to keep going because I think it makes more sense than popping a bunch of non-natural drugs.

I also followed the "Inconceivable Truth" by R. Lewis. It's a good book. It has some diet tips to follow and it talks about why your body is not concieving and how to fix it.

Anyway, it's late and I just thought I'd post my two cents/thoughts.

by Jules101071, Feb 20, 2009 04:53AM
To: All
I am 37 years old and my husband and I have been trying for 21/2 years.  Have just found out that I have an elevated FSH level 12.2 or thereabouts.  Am starting the IVF treadmill but feel very down hearted about it all, angry at my body,  and though of course thrilled for friends of same age who are having first and second babies 'naturally' it is also a kick in the guts ...Have enjoyed your posts and messages of hope.  Could use one for me right now.
Julia

by ruphie, Mar 07, 2009 10:30AM
To: all
Hi, Im almost 35 and recently learned that my fsh is 28. I cry as a I type hoping that this will bring some relief to my heart. I am sad but not ready to give up on my dream to become a mom, so I'm acquiring as much information as needed in order to help my chances to become a mother. I know doctors don't have the last word, but GOD, and he hasn't said not to me yet! so here it goes... I'll get the book some time this week maybe today.I'm also going to a specialist and will keep u posted about the progress. Don't know u all but I'm glad knowing that there are other brave women like me out there... best wishes to all of you including Julia..

by de200, Mar 13, 2009 03:24PM
To: All
We have been trying to conceive since last 6 months or so. I was concerened when I got my periods in 16 days. My doctor ordered some tests and the FSH came 12.6. Doc says since it was not a normal cycle she will try it again if not send me to the specialist.
I was so upset and cried all day long! I started to take the wheatgrass powder since yesterday I am hoping the next test levels lower FSH. After my next set of results if FSH is still high I might try accupucture...I am just 28 so I am very worried now. i hope to conceive naturally and get pregnant soon. Good luck to all you soon to be moms out there!
will keep you all in my prayers.
-De

by Shazzer90, Apr 22, 2009 07:40PM
To: All
I'm 39 and been told my FSH level is 11 and my Anti mullerian hormone (AMH) level is 4.90 which is categorised as low.  A category of 2 -15 is the low category, so mine is near the bottom.  My consultant told me there is a very low chance of me conceiving with my own eggs as he says I am pre-menopausal.  I am devastated, depressed and desperate but am trying to remain hopeful and still trying.  I have considered donor eggs for IVF but will start IVF around June time.

Has anyone had their AMH level done.  I was told this is most accurate test to indicate ovarian reserve and quality of eggs.

by Gwynnn, Apr 23, 2009 09:11PM
Hello-

Just browsing peoples' stories  and banging my head against a wall that doctors declare women completely infertile with FSH levels at like 11-15.  That's insane!!!!  The truth is, yes,  FSH CAN be an indicator of how one will respond to meds; however, one can be a poor responder EVEN IF they have normal FSH.  Further, AGE is the most important factor when dealing with egg quality. Higher FSH is an indicator of QUANTITY, not QUALITY.  Docs won't take women with FSH levels over 10 because they simply take longer to have a successful cycle and it screws up their statistics.  I see on boards all the time women telling other women to look at clinics' success rates to determine which doctor to go to. The truth is, success rates need to be taken in context.  Most of those clinics with the higher rates take the "easier" cases; those of us with high FSH aren't easy fixes, so we tend to be offered donor egg or nothing.

And I agree with using TCM in conjunction with Western treatments, especially acupuncture.  

My story:  I was 34 at the time I was diagnosed with premature ovarian failure/ diminished ovarian reserve.  I had no real symptoms, but I decided to get the "fertility screening tests" from my OB/ GYN after 6 months of ttc.  My first FSH came back at 45.  I was immediately referred to an RE- luckily he didn't scream donor egg at us, although he did tell us it was our best chance.  My highest FSH was 52.  I went through 4 IVF cycles; over 4 IVF cycles, I only got a handful of eggs, and 4 total embryos.  My twins are due next month.  BTW, we were about to do donor egg- this was our last cycle before moving on to donor egg.  In conjunction with IVF treatments, I went to a TCM clinic that specializes in infertility issues- I did fertility yoga, acupuncture, herbs (only during rest cycle times, not at the same time I was taking stimulation medication), meditation, diet modification, and yes, a LOT of prayer.  

So it can happen.  Please don't let people tell you that your FSH is off the charts or extremely high when it's like 12.  Sure, it's elevated, but like I said, age is a much better indicator of egg quality.  Best of luck to everyone!

by Bakneena, Apr 24, 2009 01:33PM
To: cruis2211
Like others on this board have recommended also try alternative chinese medicine which has a high focus on balancing your body's energy (bloodflow) and making sure ALL your organs (not just your reproductive system) works how it's supposed to.  A high FSH level is just an "indicator" not a diagnosis.  It just means your pituitary gland is a little out of whack and is secreting too much FSH because your ovaries aren't responding to normal levels.  I did acupuncture (no herbal medicine at the time)  regularly for about 4 months before IVF to prepare my body for the treatment.  Acupuncture stimulates, or regulates, bloodflow where needed in your body (don't forget the liver and pancreas are essential to a happy reproductive system...who would've known??)  I was diagnosed with "cold uterus" by my acupuncturist so the months before my IVF, she focused on drawing blood flow through my uterus and ovary areas, as well as my other major organs.  After my IVF treatment, she avoids that area so as not to interfere with the uterus' natural function and just focused on regulating blood throughout the rest of my body and relieving any stresses.  Everybody's needs are different.  Anyway, I recommend reading the book "The Infertility Cure" by Randine Lewis that explains how women can achieve successful pregnancy with chinese medicine.  Good luck!

by pumpkin88, Apr 27, 2009 08:55PM
hey everyone, my first time on this site... All of you are very brave, strong women. I am 30 and almost 15 weeks pregnant. I just found out my thyroid level is 11.5, i had my thyroid removed last feb, due to cancer. I have never had a problem since, but am very worried that an elevated level can cause birth defects, can anyone shed some light on this????

by cmoretti, Apr 28, 2009 07:34PM
To: pumpkin88
You should probably post in a new thread to get the attention of those that might be able to answer your question and not limit yourself to those that happen to read entirely through this thread
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