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High FSH (need advice)
I'm new at this and have never posted anything online but I recieved devastating news last week from my ob-gyn and am so confused. I am 30 years old and my husband and I decided to it's time to have children. I haven't been trying but went to my doctor for my annual and discussed my plans so she set up some testing and gave me some good tips on health and fitness. Well to my surprise I got a call a week later that my fsh came back at 23. She said she had not expected it and that I need to see a RE. I am completely regular every 28 day and alway have been. I have been using the OPK packs for the last 2 months and detect a LH surge on day 13. My estradiol came back normal at 27.160. Also I did a fertell test at home on day 14 that came back negative. I know FSH fluctuates but I thought I'd for sure test positive. From my understanding midcyle fsh is usually higher. I just wonder about lab error. My sister and mother took a while to get pregnant I guess from what they say. It's hard to stay positive with all the negative stuff out there about FSH over 20. I know this is wishful thinking but does anyone know or hear of lab errors. My doctor said the hole picture didn't look right and something seemed off. She did say she felt I could concieve but it may be more difficult and that although I tested high it may be an indication of low quantity not low quality given my age. If anyone has any insight, advice, opinons or encouragement I'd love to hear it. I'm a runner too and recently changed my excercise routine so it's not so harsh on my body. I have extremely low fat for a girl and am muscular.. just born that way.. never lifted a weight. Sometimes I wonder about my hormones..
I have had lots of combos of drugs. Some of them are the same but different names. You just have to see what your ovaries will react to. I think that I have tried 6 drug cocktails before I found the right one. Menopur was in the last go round. It is great. I found that while I had a small itchy reaction to the shot for one day (about the size of the quarter) it dissapeared quickly. Some drugs would cause huge thick whelps 4 inches wide that lasted for weeks. Everyone is different. I don't know many of the abreviations BFP I assume is big fat pregnant and I assume BFN is big fat no. I am only guessing.
Hi Camy,
BFP - Big fat positive (pregnancy test)
BFP - Big fat negative
dh - dear husband
AF - periond (aunt Flo)
Hope this helps!
I haven't heard of that protocol, but I'm new to this also, not so new to the forum - been here a few months, but new ttc(trying to conceive). Maybe make a new post asking your question. You might get more response. Also, you can post the same question on the fertility forum for more women to respond. Best of luck!
BFP - Big fat positive (pregnancy test)
BFP - Big fat negative
dh - dear husband
AF - periond (aunt Flo)
Hope this helps!
I haven't heard of that protocol, but I'm new to this also, not so new to the forum - been here a few months, but new ttc(trying to conceive). Maybe make a new post asking your question. You might get more response. Also, you can post the same question on the fertility forum for more women to respond. Best of luck!
I am new on this site forum and I don't understand some of the abreviations you are using. for example:BFB, BFN?please help me .
Hi , I am 36 going to be 37 next summer. My last 3day FSH level is 21.65 and my doctor said to try again dec and january. if no pregnancy will happen, i will take menopur, clomifencitrat and pregnyol in order to prepare for my first IUI. Did somebody test this treatement for ovarian inducement?
The HCG level was 9 today. It is a miscarriage. I don't know what I will do next. The RE is out of town. I have an appointment on the 10th to discuss what to do next.
I am ok except I just found out that my husband's company is switching insurance companies in January. The new company is not in network with my doctor. While my insurance didn't cover fertility treatments it did cover the blood tests. I am now going to pay thousands more out of pocket. I cried the most over that.
I am ok except I just found out that my husband's company is switching insurance companies in January. The new company is not in network with my doctor. While my insurance didn't cover fertility treatments it did cover the blood tests. I am now going to pay thousands more out of pocket. I cried the most over that.
The HCG level was 9 today. It is a miscarriage. I don't know what I will do next. The RE is out of town. I have an appointment on the 10th to discuss what to do next.
I am ok except I just found out that my husband's company is switching insurance companies in January. The new company is not in network with my doctor. While my insurance didn't cover fertility treatments it did cover the blood tests. I am now going to pay thousands more out of pocket. I cried the most over that.
I am ok except I just found out that my husband's company is switching insurance companies in January. The new company is not in network with my doctor. While my insurance didn't cover fertility treatments it did cover the blood tests. I am now going to pay thousands more out of pocket. I cried the most over that.
The HCG level was 9 today. It is a miscarriage. I don't know what I will do next. The RE is out of town. I have an appointment on the 10th to discuss what to do next.
I am ok except I just found out that my husband's company is switching insurance companies in January. The new company is not in network with my doctor. While my insurance didn't cover fertility treatments it did cover the blood tests. I am now going to pay thousands more out of pocket. I cried the most over that.
I am ok except I just found out that my husband's company is switching insurance companies in January. The new company is not in network with my doctor. While my insurance didn't cover fertility treatments it did cover the blood tests. I am now going to pay thousands more out of pocket. I cried the most over that.
The HCG level was 9 today. It is a miscarriage. I don't know what I will do next. The RE is out of town. I have an appointment on the 10th to discuss what to do next.
I am ok except I just found out that my husband's company is switching insurance companies in January. The new company is not in network with my doctor. While my insurance didn't cover fertility treatments it did cover the blood tests. I am now going to pay thousands more out of pocket. I cried the most over that.
I am ok except I just found out that my husband's company is switching insurance companies in January. The new company is not in network with my doctor. While my insurance didn't cover fertility treatments it did cover the blood tests. I am now going to pay thousands more out of pocket. I cried the most over that.
Oh my goodness!!! I don't know whether to be elated that you are pregnant or concerned and frightened about your HCG levels?!! I am certainly keeping you in my prayers. I am so sorry for what you must be going through right now. What are you planning to do next if this doesn't work out the way you'd hoped? Please keep me posted. Lisa
Went to the RE today. My HCG level was 21.9. Awefully low for day 16PO. They were hoping for 70 -100. I may be in the middle of a miscarriage. They say that I am pregnant but we will know more when they re-test on Friday. Either the level will go up or down.
Try the clomid first. See what happens. God is in this. We have to surrender to him in the end. I went through a round of many injectibles every kind only gave me one egg. What you have to take it day by day and if you are sucessful great. If you are not then you can do IVF. My RE was able to make me create 7 good eggs with the protocol I listed. I have spent over 12,000 in drugs alone - not counting the IVF. You can however borrow money as they do have sources for this if you ever need. We will turn to them next as we have blown our savings. Your insurance should pay for some things like blood tests. Mine didn't pay for fertility treatments but it capped some of the costs for blood work and paid part of those.
I took a Preg test Sunday and the line was light pink (New Brand). It was definitly positive. I tested yesterday and today to see if it was getting darker but it got lighter. I don't know what that means. I don't know if I lost it or what. I will know tomorrow. It was really pale today. (I used first urine and everything.) I hate to think that I miscarried at Christmas but I guess that if we are meant to be here God will find a way. I am sounding so religious now. I will post as soon as I find out what has happened.
I took a Preg test Sunday and the line was light pink (New Brand). It was definitly positive. I tested yesterday and today to see if it was getting darker but it got lighter. I don't know what that means. I don't know if I lost it or what. I will know tomorrow. It was really pale today. (I used first urine and everything.) I hate to think that I miscarried at Christmas but I guess that if we are meant to be here God will find a way. I am sounding so religious now. I will post as soon as I find out what has happened.
I think you are testing too early. But, if the line is getting darker that is great news!! If you test again tomorrow and it is even darker still than you'll know it's not the HCG shot, but your BFP. Because the HCG will be moving it's way out of your system and the authentic HCG your body is producing will be increasing in your sysem. Wow, I can hardly wait to hear back from you on how this turns out.
I looked back at one of your earlier posts about how important it is to move aggressively with my high FSH. I'm a little worried now I'm not doing enough. But, my dr. said injectables really wouldn't increase my chances that much and for the price was better to just try the IUI's with Clomid. I would be paying out of pocket over $1500.00 for the injectables each cycle and there are no guarantees. Then I have to add the ds price so, another $700.00. I just don't have enough money for all that. But, like we've both said we can only do so much. It's ultimately in Gods hands. I'll have to trust him.
I looked back at one of your earlier posts about how important it is to move aggressively with my high FSH. I'm a little worried now I'm not doing enough. But, my dr. said injectables really wouldn't increase my chances that much and for the price was better to just try the IUI's with Clomid. I would be paying out of pocket over $1500.00 for the injectables each cycle and there are no guarantees. Then I have to add the ds price so, another $700.00. I just don't have enough money for all that. But, like we've both said we can only do so much. It's ultimately in Gods hands. I'll have to trust him.
I am so confused on what exact day I am on. I am on day 9 after embryo transfer. I took the Clear Blue Easy again today. I was told by the doctor's office to check on Christmas day (in 3 days) It is the digital and said not pregnant. I again pryed it open and looked at the stick. Again a blue line just not as intense as the sample line. So I don't know if that partcular test has the line turn pale blue or if I just have a low dose of HCG in my system right now. I realize that they are not meant to be pulled apart so they may all turn pale blue. It was darker than the last time but who the heck knows. I will have to wait for the blood test as they tell me stories of many women who discontinue their drugs as they test not preg. and still are and almost loose the baby.
The Dr. told me Prune Juice. She did warn that it is very important not to get too backed up - that it is really dangerous.
Mom is getting out of the hospital. I have her starting tomorrow for a week. She is old and sick and will be forever. I have accepted this. Thanks for asking.
Have a Merry Christmas!
Sylvia
The Dr. told me Prune Juice. She did warn that it is very important not to get too backed up - that it is really dangerous.
Mom is getting out of the hospital. I have her starting tomorrow for a week. She is old and sick and will be forever. I have accepted this. Thanks for asking.
Have a Merry Christmas!
Sylvia
Hi Sylvia,
Yes, the Clomid makes me constipated also. I take a few extra "emergen c's" The extra vitaman C seems to help me. My dr. said you can also take like 10,000 mg vit. c, it'll help. You pee out the excess so its not dangerous.
Well, I love that this dr. friend of yours confirms the relationship between stress and implantation. My ex-boyfriend that I mentioned earlier was sort of giving me a hard time after one of my IUI's and told me I was crazy to tell him I needed him to leave me alone so I could just relax and that the stress he was giving me wasn't good for me on that particular day. So, now if he tries it again, I'll quote your doc.
What cd are you on now?
Are you going to test?
How are things with your Mom?
Yes, the Clomid makes me constipated also. I take a few extra "emergen c's" The extra vitaman C seems to help me. My dr. said you can also take like 10,000 mg vit. c, it'll help. You pee out the excess so its not dangerous.
Well, I love that this dr. friend of yours confirms the relationship between stress and implantation. My ex-boyfriend that I mentioned earlier was sort of giving me a hard time after one of my IUI's and told me I was crazy to tell him I needed him to leave me alone so I could just relax and that the stress he was giving me wasn't good for me on that particular day. So, now if he tries it again, I'll quote your doc.
What cd are you on now?
Are you going to test?
How are things with your Mom?
I am glad that he is so positive. If you read many of these posts you will see that they most often are not. Good luck to you.
My RE told me once that stress had nothing to do with all of this and I have read that the stats show that it doesn't but I ran into a specialist last night at an art opening who told me that was not true. She is 76 years old and retired but taught all of the doctors at the Medical Center and was considered the authority on OBGYN issues in this state for years. She started in on the hypothalimus and things that went way over my head on how that made a difference in implantation. So ladies de-stress if you want sucessful implantation. That was a lecture I don't want to hear again.
I was asking her about something personal. Apparently the daily progesterone shots make your bowel slow down and causes constipation. I have doubled my water consumption as I am always thirsty but terribley constipated. You hear of this when people are pregnant but the drugs are giving me symptoms early.
I will cross my fingers for you in all of this. I know that you will be successful.
My RE told me once that stress had nothing to do with all of this and I have read that the stats show that it doesn't but I ran into a specialist last night at an art opening who told me that was not true. She is 76 years old and retired but taught all of the doctors at the Medical Center and was considered the authority on OBGYN issues in this state for years. She started in on the hypothalimus and things that went way over my head on how that made a difference in implantation. So ladies de-stress if you want sucessful implantation. That was a lecture I don't want to hear again.
I was asking her about something personal. Apparently the daily progesterone shots make your bowel slow down and causes constipation. I have doubled my water consumption as I am always thirsty but terribley constipated. You hear of this when people are pregnant but the drugs are giving me symptoms early.
I will cross my fingers for you in all of this. I know that you will be successful.
Hi Sylvia,
I posted a lengthy post regarding my dr visit on the fertility forum. Check that out for the low down. But I will say this - I really liked the RE. He was actually more optimist than I!! He thinks I have a chance and should keep trying for several more months. He's not worried as much about my FSH because my u/s showed lots of follicles. Anyhow, check out the post titled "The skinny on my dr. visit" on the fertility forum. It'll outline it. I did mention to him the protocol your doc. mentioned and he said IVF wasn't a good option for me.
I hope all goes well for you. Keep me posted.
Lisa
I posted a lengthy post regarding my dr visit on the fertility forum. Check that out for the low down. But I will say this - I really liked the RE. He was actually more optimist than I!! He thinks I have a chance and should keep trying for several more months. He's not worried as much about my FSH because my u/s showed lots of follicles. Anyhow, check out the post titled "The skinny on my dr. visit" on the fertility forum. It'll outline it. I did mention to him the protocol your doc. mentioned and he said IVF wasn't a good option for me.
I hope all goes well for you. Keep me posted.
Lisa
It takes a village when someone gets old is all I can say.
That is fantastic about your appointment. Just get ready- the RE is not going to give you much hope. They never do. Just let him or her know that you have to go through the steps that you can so that you won't look back in regret. The stats are against you. They are against all of us in our position. Just don't let their attitude get you down. Let him/her know that you completely understand the stats but that you want to do this. Someone gets to win the lottery - just get your ticket and try. If you want your own child you must try what you can. My cousin did all of this and never had a biological child but it made adoption so much easier to embrace. She has no regrets.
Also - be aggressive. If you don't do well with clomid - move on. Don't waste months trying one thing. I personally think that my eggs are tough and don't want to be fertilized. It didn't matter how many eggs came down they couldn't be penetrated. We did ICSI to make sure they fertilized.
Don't let the RE get you down. People with high FSH do have babies. The percentage is just low. Again - someone is going to get the golden ticket - it can be you.
Good luck and I will pray for you.
Sylvia
That is fantastic about your appointment. Just get ready- the RE is not going to give you much hope. They never do. Just let him or her know that you have to go through the steps that you can so that you won't look back in regret. The stats are against you. They are against all of us in our position. Just don't let their attitude get you down. Let him/her know that you completely understand the stats but that you want to do this. Someone gets to win the lottery - just get your ticket and try. If you want your own child you must try what you can. My cousin did all of this and never had a biological child but it made adoption so much easier to embrace. She has no regrets.
Also - be aggressive. If you don't do well with clomid - move on. Don't waste months trying one thing. I personally think that my eggs are tough and don't want to be fertilized. It didn't matter how many eggs came down they couldn't be penetrated. We did ICSI to make sure they fertilized.
Don't let the RE get you down. People with high FSH do have babies. The percentage is just low. Again - someone is going to get the golden ticket - it can be you.
Good luck and I will pray for you.
Sylvia
I don't know if you saw my other post, but my appt. with the fertility specialist is tomorrow! It got bumped up from Jan. 10. So, tomorrow is the day I get started on the next leg of this journey.
I'm so very sorry to hear about your Mom. It seems that there is never a good time to ttc. Life is just full of curve balls! I hope you get some information soon regarding BFP versus BFN. Do you have siblings, or dh that can help with Mom's condition?
Lisa
I'm so very sorry to hear about your Mom. It seems that there is never a good time to ttc. Life is just full of curve balls! I hope you get some information soon regarding BFP versus BFN. Do you have siblings, or dh that can help with Mom's condition?
Lisa
I used to test early after IUI just to see when the HCG really did clear and mine was always gone by day3 or 4. I was always so shocked. We did IUI 6 times. I know that everyone is different though.
Yes it is making me pretty crazy right now. My mom is in the hospital and is very ill in another town. If I knew that I wasn't BFP I could go and try to take her home. (She has cancer - of all things ovarian - and had 3 strokes- is paralyzed on one side and now has a colostomy) I just can't deal with her 24 hour care (she is heavy and has to be lifted) until I find out one way or another as I would have to stay with her for a while. I just can't go picking up a 160 lb woman when they told me not to lift heavy objects right now. Everything is just so up in the air.
It was easy the day or two after they transferred the embryos. I knew that they were floating around for a day or two alive. That was a special feeling. They even gave me the most beautiful photos of them before they implanted them. Now they could be with me or gone. I am ready to know.
Yes it is making me pretty crazy right now. My mom is in the hospital and is very ill in another town. If I knew that I wasn't BFP I could go and try to take her home. (She has cancer - of all things ovarian - and had 3 strokes- is paralyzed on one side and now has a colostomy) I just can't deal with her 24 hour care (she is heavy and has to be lifted) until I find out one way or another as I would have to stay with her for a while. I just can't go picking up a 160 lb woman when they told me not to lift heavy objects right now. Everything is just so up in the air.
It was easy the day or two after they transferred the embryos. I knew that they were floating around for a day or two alive. That was a special feeling. They even gave me the most beautiful photos of them before they implanted them. Now they could be with me or gone. I am ready to know.
I haven't had the trigger shot yet, but I've read a lot about it on this forum. I think 9 days is too early. It stays in your system 10 - 14 days. Typically when you have the trigger you are asked to wait 14 days so you won't get a false pos.. I KNOW IT'S TORTURE! So, I don't think your BFN on cd 10 was accurate. It may just be to soon to tell at the moment.
My mother in law has said to me that my husband's nieces and nephews need a good Aunt. That may be true but she had 3 children - and 5 grandchildren. She doesn't know the feeling of not having your own family. I have had a niece for 30 years. I love her and we are very close but I just want my own family. Some people tell me that people live perfectly good lives without children. Of course these are the people who have them. The friends that I have who are the most comfort are the ones in their 50's who tried and never had any. Yes they led wonderful lives but none of them tell me that. They just say that it wasn't in the cards for them and that they hope that we are successful and that yes it is painful.
I don't think that the faint line was the HCG since it had been 9 days since the shot. I am just praying that either the Clear Blue is more sensitive or something. I was not supposed to test for another week. I was told that if any of the eggs did attach it would have been this past Saturday or Sunday. I should have just left it at the faint line and waited. Sometimes they attach for a while and then don't make it. I have not given up hope - yet. Lets hope that the Walgreens brand is just not sensitive enough. That ice tea did frighten me. I just didn't think and I have never had such a reaction. My heart raced for 3 hours. It was racing and then it dawned on me that I shouldn't have had it. Again, I guess that if one of these embryos is meant to make it they will. If God wants you to be here a glass of ice tea shouldn't make a difference.
I will ask my RE about splitting the cycle. He is the best around and since I live a few blocks away I don't want to change Doctors. I had never thought of splitting one.
I don't think that the faint line was the HCG since it had been 9 days since the shot. I am just praying that either the Clear Blue is more sensitive or something. I was not supposed to test for another week. I was told that if any of the eggs did attach it would have been this past Saturday or Sunday. I should have just left it at the faint line and waited. Sometimes they attach for a while and then don't make it. I have not given up hope - yet. Lets hope that the Walgreens brand is just not sensitive enough. That ice tea did frighten me. I just didn't think and I have never had such a reaction. My heart raced for 3 hours. It was racing and then it dawned on me that I shouldn't have had it. Again, I guess that if one of these embryos is meant to make it they will. If God wants you to be here a glass of ice tea shouldn't make a difference.
I will ask my RE about splitting the cycle. He is the best around and since I live a few blocks away I don't want to change Doctors. I had never thought of splitting one.
Yes, people can be so insensitive! My ex-boyfriend used to tell me, "look you've got a wonderful dog and lots of kids in your classroom, that should be enough for you." Can you imagine. A dog! Yes, he is a wonderfule Border Collie that I love dearly. But, he's not a flippin human, he's not a baby I can hold, nurse, nurture and raise. Of course this man has 2 children and can have as many more as he chooses.
I'm sorry to hear about your BFN! But, getting the faint line one day, that's a good sign. (unless you had a HCG trigger - could still be in your system) But otherwise a faint line is a line, is a line!!!
Someone on the fertility forum gave me a website of a clinic in NY that has donor egg profiles with photos listed. I didn't realize you can share a cycle with another person and split the cost! I guess they get so many follicles (dam* young women) (-: That there are left overs to split with another person. Anyhow, after looking at the profiles I'm not so afraid of donor eggs should it come to that. And splitting a cycle with someone can make the cost more affordable.
Well, I've got to wait until the 10th of Jan. before I have my appt with the fert. specialist. I can feel those eggs drying up as I type this. URG!!
Let me know how things turn out for you. If you're interested in the website, let me know.
Lisa
I'm sorry to hear about your BFN! But, getting the faint line one day, that's a good sign. (unless you had a HCG trigger - could still be in your system) But otherwise a faint line is a line, is a line!!!
Someone on the fertility forum gave me a website of a clinic in NY that has donor egg profiles with photos listed. I didn't realize you can share a cycle with another person and split the cost! I guess they get so many follicles (dam* young women) (-: That there are left overs to split with another person. Anyhow, after looking at the profiles I'm not so afraid of donor eggs should it come to that. And splitting a cycle with someone can make the cost more affordable.
Well, I've got to wait until the 10th of Jan. before I have my appt with the fert. specialist. I can feel those eggs drying up as I type this. URG!!
Let me know how things turn out for you. If you're interested in the website, let me know.
Lisa
I hate the comments that people give. They are so insensitive. "Don't go to a Dr. and spend the money - just relax and it will happen naturally." Women our age (I'll be 40 in Feb.) can't relax when we have been failing for so long and know that there is an egg problem - and if it had happened naturally we wouldn't have gone to a doctor. "If you quit trying you will get pregnant." How do you quit trying or thinking about it when you have a limited window left to try in?
My favorite is when my friends (also in their late 30's or early 40's) tell me that I can some of thier eggs that they are "very fertile." I laugh and tell them that their eggs are as old as mine and they keep insisting that they are fertile. Of course none of them have been tested or pregnant in over 10 years. They get insulted that I would not want their scrambled eggs.
Tomorrow will be 1 week from the embryo transfer. Yesterday I cheated and took a preg. test and it showed a very very faint line. That one was a Clear Blue Easy. Today I cheated and used a Walgreen's early detection and there was no line at all. I shouldn't have done it but I was going crazy. I may go crazy more now. Without thinking I drank a large glass of tea yesterday. The caffine had me shaking as I am not used to it anymore. I turned red in the face and got very nervous. I hope that I didn't do anything to myself.
Anyhow- I understand how irritating it is when family members and friends tell you that you are fertile when you have been told otherwise. I just want to say "why can't you just say that you are sorry for me and to hang in there." It makes me feel oh so alone.
My favorite is when my friends (also in their late 30's or early 40's) tell me that I can some of thier eggs that they are "very fertile." I laugh and tell them that their eggs are as old as mine and they keep insisting that they are fertile. Of course none of them have been tested or pregnant in over 10 years. They get insulted that I would not want their scrambled eggs.
Tomorrow will be 1 week from the embryo transfer. Yesterday I cheated and took a preg. test and it showed a very very faint line. That one was a Clear Blue Easy. Today I cheated and used a Walgreen's early detection and there was no line at all. I shouldn't have done it but I was going crazy. I may go crazy more now. Without thinking I drank a large glass of tea yesterday. The caffine had me shaking as I am not used to it anymore. I turned red in the face and got very nervous. I hope that I didn't do anything to myself.
Anyhow- I understand how irritating it is when family members and friends tell you that you are fertile when you have been told otherwise. I just want to say "why can't you just say that you are sorry for me and to hang in there." It makes me feel oh so alone.
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