Probabaly going to miscarry #4?

[amelia09]

I am 41, trying for about 3 1/2 years.  I am currently 6w1d pregnancy, my fourth pregnancy in 3 years (all previous ended in miscarriage).  I have been feeling some pregnancy symptoms -- very mild nausea, constipation, sore breasts, fatigue, occasional achy back.  But today, I feel a tad less tired and my breasts are no longer sore, although they "tingle" now and then.

At 5w1d, I had a single episode of red, watery bleeding -- but only when I wiped.  Called RE office and was told to call back only if it got worse (it didn't, just stopped).  Said it could be normal.  But since then, I figured my chances were 50/50.  But with the symptoms lessening (or just fluctuating?), I'm pretty certain the pregnancy is failing.

I will not know for sure until my ultrasound next week.  But has anyone experienced similar circumstances and went on to deliver?  I am now more concerned about the lessening symptoms than the previous bleed.

[hyjdan07]

You are in my prayers

[lolagirl212]

Hi!
I have looked it up online several times and what i come up with is that if given to women in their 40s, it thins the uterus lining more than it should (not in everyone but in some) Also, since older women have fewer good eggs, the clomid might not even make any difference. It stimulates the egg follicles but won't make you have more. That's all I got. I saw my Dr today and my u/s showed 2 good size follies and I'm only on day 6 of my cycle so that is much better than I usually have! Hoping the Clomid is doing it's job!!!
How do you feel on the Clomid? Any side effects? I have a terrible headache all the time and think it has added 5 lbs..not happy about THAT one ;)

[adgal]

I am sorry your going through such a stressful time.  But I agree with the others, wait a week maybe and get another u/s?  Its amazing the "miracle" stories I have heard on here...so many thought all was lost and things turned around.

I also have suffered multiple miscarriage, so I understand what your going through.  Its tough, but I am like Prevatt, my desire to have a child is stronger (so far) then the fear of going through this again.  It can happen.  And I am 39 and when it happens, it will be my first child.  Please take good care of yourself.

Lola, I am 39  (will be 40 in January) and just started chlomid as well.  I have been trying to find info on line and so far have not come across anything that says its not recommended for women over 40.  If you have info on that I would be very interested if you don't mind sharing it.

Amanda

[prevatt77]

My friend didn't see a heartbeat until 9 weeks.  I didn't see mine until 7 weeks.  I would wait it out a little more.

Good Luck to you and if you do end in miscarriage, keep trying, don't give up, it will happen for you and your husband.

Hugs Debbie

[Mochica]

I agree. Another u/s perhaps? It seems so early to tell ... the embryo could just be a bit behind. I've read that some woman have low HGC and turns out okay.

I'm holding our hope for you!!!

[amelia09]

The doc will do another u/s tommorrow.  If nothing has changed, will do a D&C.  Because I did IUI this time, I know when I ovulated (it wasn't late) and conceived, so there is no question about dating.

If there had been a hb seen, there may have been a chance.  At 6 wks along it should be seen, particularly with the transvaginal u/s.  

Thanks for the kind words and prayers, but unfortunately my pregnancy won't last yet again.  Hopefully after some time passes I can get over this and maybe try again.

[7preg3b]

if your off on ovulation or implantation by a few days you won;t see the hb yet.  when is the repeat ultrasound.  they did the same thing for me and i was just off by a few days and I have had three previous m/c and was worried as hell..  so hope is not lost..  i had bleeding early and it was implantation bleeding I am now 14 plus weeks and having an amnio on monday...my thoughts and prayers are with you

[Van73]

I am so sorry! Is the dr going to give you another ultra sound though? You could be off a week because we dont always ovulate the way we think we do!! the LMP is just a guesstimation. 5w6d is really early to see anything! My dr wouldnt let me have a sono til I was about 8 weeks! I hope your dr atleast tries again in a week or so! I am so sorry this is happening to you! I will pray for you and your strength!

[amelia09]

Thanks for everyone that expressed hope for me.  But unfortunately I was correct that something was wrong.  My u/s at 6w4d weeks showed a 5w6d embryo and no heartbeat (which should be seen by now).  So looks like miscarriage #4.

I am quite distraught right now.  Of course, I knew my risk of another miscarriage was high (age 41 with 3 previous m/c), but it is still heartbreaking.

Prevatt77...I so hope I can persevere like you did.  My husband says the same thing essentially (don't stop, maybe the next one will be it).  I so want a child that is biologically mine, but maybe I need to look at other options.  Time is not on my side.

In any case, I really need a break from all this.

[40smama]

lola - really there are tons of women on the fertility forum who are 35+ or in their 40s trying to conceive.  You asked an excellent question & though I'm 45, I don't have an answer as I didnt' conceive w/Clomid.  I hope you get your answer quickly - still post your ? on the fertility forum - you'll probably get a lot more responses.  Good luck!

[lolagirl212]

Hi!
I'm new here, and not sure if this is the right forum for me as each of you have already conceived? I was on another fertility forum but thought the 35+ was a better fit. I'm 42 and ttc thru donor sperm IUI (Yep, single girl and not letting having not met Mr "right" get in my way ;)) I have gone thru 3 IUIs all failed. Today my Dr put me on Clomid but I'm concerned since all I hear is how Clomid is not recommended for women over 40. Has anyone heard otherwise? I'd love to hear each of your success stories and am so happy for you all..much much happiness in your 9 months and forever after!

[prevatt77]

I kept going after #4 because I was determined to not let this beat me, I was not going to give up.  Plus my RE told me that the woman that are in my shoes that still don't have children are because they gave up.  He kept telling me it was just bad luck that I wasn't getting a mature healthy egg, so that made me want it even more.  Yes, I agree, it's very heart breaking and it was hard to keep going, but I did and I told my husband that when the time was right for us that it would happen and it did.  This pregnancy my RE did put me on Clomid and that is when I carried full term.  I'm blessed and I'm glad I didn't give up.

[Mochica]

I'm 7w today. I first round out I was pregnant at 4w/3d so this waiting game has been a roller coaster ride of emotions. I had more and varied symptoms early on but they have become less distinct over time. B/c of my age, I have weekly blood draws that report my HCG and progesterone levels. There was one week I was just sure it was all over b/c my boobs weren't sore at all and I didn't feel lightheaded and I seemed more energetic. Well, HCG levels in last blood test showed I was wrong. Things are moving ahead. My first u/s is Monday and I'm praying for the heartbeat to give me more comfort. I've also heard from other women that signs come and go and that may do not really see symptoms until week 6, 7 & 8. Still I wonder if I'm not tired enough or lightheaded enough or why I don't seem to need to urinate quite so often. And a bit of me wonders if I'm as in touch w/ my body as I thought I was and that's a bit unsettling honestly. Other women seem to "just know" this and that ... but not me. I'm a worrier I think. But I've been told again, and again, and again ... to let it go and enjoy. I've not found a really good way to do that other than to take long leisurely walks.

Best of luck to you! CONGRATS!!!

[airforcewife]

Don't give up hope!!  It is very very normal for symptoms to fluctuate in early pregnancy.  Sometimes they go away for a few days even and then come back with a vengeance.  When I was early pregnant (less than 10 weeks) I remember being so scared because I didn't feel as sick and my breasts stopped being sore-well I can tell you that I then got so sick I was thinking I would die.  I now have a very healthy 3 month old.  Good luck and I pray it sticks!!  

[amelia09]

Thanks for much for your comments, I'm glad to see that your pregnancy is going well this time!  How wonderful for you.

I haven't given up hope entirely, but afraid to count on this.  The bleed and symptom fluctuations are real concerns.  I'll keep my fingers crossed though.

If this is m/c #4, I am determined to stop.  The stress of TTC and my high potential for further loss is not something I want to deal with again.  What made you decide to keep going after #4 (if you don't mind saying)?  Fortunately you did 'cause you will now have that baby.  But for me, I feel so heartsick about this, I don't know if I can continue.

[prevatt77]

I wouldn't give up hope yet.  With this pregnancy my symptoms would come and go and it made me very nervous because I have had 4 prior miscarriages.  Now my first lost I knew something was wrong because my symptoms completly vanished and I got this huge burst of energy.  You seems to still be having some mild symptoms and I think that normal.  Just try and relax and stay positive.

Good Luck and keep us posted.

Debbie