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688450 tn?1259468734

LOTUS BIRTH ????? WHAT ON EARTH???

wow!!!!! Never heard of this!!!  I have heard about some moms dehydrating their placentas and encapsulating it so they can take the pills once the baby is born to help minimize hormonal stress like PPD and other things.  I've been online and stumbled on to this form of birthing and it sounds incredible!  It sounds like something I would sure be interested in.  The only problem is with the hospital that I would like to deliver in accept my style of birthing?  This may be a hurdle that will not be so easy to jump over.  I'm not too crazy about the idea of home birth because of unforeseen  emergencies that may arise. I like to be close to an emergency room. Either way I was wondering what you ladies thought of this and has anyone participated in this wonderful way of birthing?  I wish I would have been better informed about this before I had my son.  He is absolutely perfect in every way but still I think he would have benefited immensely from this form of physical and spiritual way of entering this world.  I would be great if more hospitals gave you a little bit more of an option of what kind of birth you would like to have.  It's too bad that they have the one size fits all attitude and that is soooo not the case when it comes to child birth.  
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951946 tn?1263565383
Congrats on your cholesterol news! That is great.There's always some good to be had with the bad, in most situations... And I think it all counts, ya know? The better your general health, the better your prospects. That was my focus after I miscarried. It helped me to feel empowered to be working on my health, and the side benefit was that I felt great physically.
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Ruby what your doing sounds amazing.  And knowing that your midwives are trained the way they are would definately put my mind at ease.  I was wondering about lotusmomma's birth as she mentioned (unless I misread) that there was no one there but her and her husband.  I like the idea, but that's what would scare me.  I know most births are just fine, but.....

Alba, sorry about the BFN hon.  I hope that changes to a BFP next cycle and will send positive thoughts your way.
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Thank you for your posts!  That sure was beautiful!  Makes you really think with your heart!
I am still thinking about a Lotus birth when the times shall come. For now I went to my doctor's and got a blood test that said a BFN unfortunately :( Oh well, it's back to try and try again!  We'll get it right one of these days! :) Funny thing is I still feel bloated! the only good thing I found out was that they checked by Cholesterol level at the same time and I dropped down 23 points! That was exciting! from a 242 to 219. So not everything is bad news.....
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951946 tn?1263565383
Oh, and Alba, I wanted to share with you that I actually had emailed with Mary Ceallaigh after my miscarriage! I didn't realize it was the same "lotus birth" you were referring to, until I just re-read this thread. :)

At the time, I was getting back on the TTC wagon and she wrote this to me which I thought was really beautiful:

"A very relaxing and inspiring teaching I love to remember is that the yogini is pregnant all the time - with shakti creativity, breakthrough consciousness, change, reverberation with Life.

We don't have to reproduce more people, but we do need to help bring forth a new humanity & compassion in ourselves and the world as it is. Wishing you blessings in all the forms your mothering takes!"
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951946 tn?1263565383
It always makes me smile when people say that out-of-hospital birth is courageous. :) I was with relatives last night and I got a healthy dose of this... until we started talking about the details of a natural birth vs. what women are forced to do in a hospital setting (just one e.g., lithotomy position-- horrible for both mother and baby).

In my county, the C-section rate has skyrocketed to 50% and unmedicated births in a hospital setting a re completely unheard-of. I cannot *imagine* being forced to go through labor with an IV in my vein, confined to a prone position with my legs in the air while strangers wander in and out, and I've possibly also got a needle sticking into my spinal cord.

I guess it all depends what you're afraid of. :)

*If something goes wrong
It depends what you mean by "something". My midwives are also RNs and certified EMTs specializing in infant resuscitation. They also carry more gear with them than is found on an ambulance. Pitocin (in case of maternal hemmorage), oxygen, episiotomy instruments, you name it. They are *very* well-equipped and well-trained to handle emergencies of virtually any kind. My midwife has attended close to 2000 natural births (as opposed to the average OB who has never even witnessed ONE completely natural birth and would probably find it as scary as you do!)

*If medical intervention is required
Again, if it's a medical intervention that they are not equipped to handle (I can only think of one example of this and I have already grilled them about it), there is time for transport to a nearby hospital. A good midwife will have reciprocal agreements in place with physicians at all the local hospitals-- mine certainly does. In fact, when I had my spotting, it wasn't about "well get yourself to the ER". It was, "If you end up needing to go to the hospital, I will have one of the physicians that I work with waiting there to meet you for a private exam."

All that being said, I would not opt for a home birth if I were, say, an hour away from any hospital, or if my midwife did not have reciprocal agreements in place with local physicians. Her c-sect rate is only 5% but for that 5% of instances, sure-- you want to be able to get into surgery in a timely fashion, and to be treated with respect when you get there-- not as a patient who has been "dumped" but as someone whose situation has simply become urgent.
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377493 tn?1356502149
Wow.  You have way more courage then I do.  I am way to scared to not have this baby in a hospital, although we are utilizing a birthing room.  I guess my concern would be what if something went wrong?  Using a birthing method like this do you have a back up should medical intervention be required?  I don't mean that sarcastically, I am truly curious as to how this works.  I know its not right for me, but I am interested.  Do you have any extra concerns given that you are having multiples?  Will there be at least a trained midwife present, or is it just you and your husband?  Sorry to ask so many questions, but I am curious.  Good luck to you.
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I had my 2nd son via a completely natural, drug free, stress free, pain free, unassisted (besides my Hubby to catch) home lotus birth at 44 weeks and 1 day gestation. I have never seen another baby like my son, and I am truly convinced that his lotus birth gave him an obscene advantage over conventionally born children.
I would never again consider birthing any other way and I still cry at the thought of someone cutting the tie between a baby and it's placenta and I am also disgusted and heartbroken by many of the other "conventional procedures and protocols". My son's placenta is currently wrapped in a couple cloth diapers and in a vacuum sealed bag in the freezer so he can have it back when he is older and do what he wishes with it.
I will also never consider induction again. I was induced with my first child at 41 weeks and the mw overdosed him on petocin (which he wasn't even supposed to be using and therefore didn't put in my chart that I had received it, sp he could cover himself!!) My now 8 year old was obviously premature and covered in vernix. I allowed his cord to be clamped and cut because I didn't know any better.  He has suffered severe developmental delays from the pitocin overdose. As it turns out I have a 10 month gestation period. So do many other women, but you know that wonderful medical field!!!
I am now pregnant with twins and I am very anxiously awaiting another truly natural, pain free, stress free, beautiful, home lotus birth.
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Hi Ruby, thanks for the post!  OK I'm having trouble with posting to you in reply, this will be my 3rd attempt like they say 3 is the charm, I hope!  I will keep it short and sweet! As for home births I really think they are fabulous but I am a big chicken and a worry wort.  I'm so glad for you that you are only 10 min. away from the nearest hospital.  I wish that I had convenience.  Either way time is always of the essence when it comes to emergencies of birthing type.  Whether it's 5min away or 10 every second counts and even 10 minutes might make a difference between life and death. I'm just not willing to take the chance.  As for Lotus birthing, Where do I even begin.........you now, I really can't do this miraculous procedure justice and you're probably better off just getting it from the horse's mouth so to speak, if you go to Google and type www.lotusfertility.com/lotus_birth_Q/lotus_birth_QA.html this will give you all the answers to your questions on what and how this procedure is performed. Also, if you go on Youtube and type (Ophelia's Lotus Birth) you can see the actual video  of the whole birth that will give you goose bumps! and many other related videos on the subject.  I'll tell ya if I could go back to before my son was born I would better inform myself on this type of birthing it is so good for the baby I can't begin to count the ways!!! and spiritually speaking it's sublime.  Can't say more than that, this was supposed to be short and sweet.   Oh, Well :) :)  :) !!!! LOL  RSVP  Alba   PS hope this helped!
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951946 tn?1263565383
I'm not sure what lotus birth is in particular-- could you post a link or more information?

FWIW, I am planning on giving birth at home with a midwife and her team. They bring all the same emergency gear to the birth that would be present in a birthing center, e.g. pitocin, oxygen tank, etc. They just do not use drugs unless absolutely necessary.

If there is anything out of the ordinary about the birth, they make the call for immediate transport to the nearest ER. Luckily for me, that'd be a 10 minute ride. So I feel very confident that I will be safe doing this. I have several friends who have given birth at home and had both a safe birth and a great experience. But no one should do anything that makes them nervous! Your birth plan should be the plan that gives you the least anxiety and the most confidence. :)

On the flip side, I am 39, and I realize that complications may arise during my pregnancy or during labor itself that could land me in the hospital with a medicated birth or a c-section. E.g. if I go into premature labor, home birth will not be an option-- I'd have to go straight to the hospital. So I think it's important to plan for what you want, but be realistic and know that we can't fully control the outcome. :)

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377493 tn?1356502149
I have not seen this style of birthing, but I too am doing things a bit differently and with my OB's 100% support.  The hospital I will deliver in uses a birthing room if you choose instead of just a normal delivery room. It is in a hospital, so if anything goes wrong, medical help is right there (I too am not comfortable with a home birth situation).  It will be me,my husband and a midwife and I can do whatever is comfortable.  I will be bringing my own music.  If I want to walk I can walk, or do whatever I want that feels comfortable.  It's low lighting, or whatever atmosphere I want to create.  No bright medical lights or noise or stirrups.

I suggest you talk to your Dr. about your wishes. Always remember that he or she works for you and should support you in your wishes as long as it's nothing dangerous.  I wish you well!
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