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[Scout8601]

Well, I just got the call about my latest labs...not good.  I can't stop crying.

Hcg was only 2156. Progesterone was 37.4  This was done Monday the 17th.

Labs before that were done the previous Thrusday the 13th....hcg was 1521 and progesterone was over 40.

Guess this is another loss.  I can't believe it.  I'm devestated.  

[Butterflykissesme]

Scout,
I'm so sorry to hear what you've been going through. It is one of life's most devastating experiences. My thoughts and prayers are with you.xx

[adgal]

MedHelp won't allow you to post your email in a public forum.  It's to protect you as this is a public site.  To give Scout your email, send her a personal message.  I am happy to walk you through how to do that if you have any trouble.  Connecting with others going through the same thing is so incredibly healing.  We all need support during something like this.  My thoughts are with both of you.  I wish there was more I could do to help.  (((hugs)) to you both.

[moniviolin]

Well my email is my user name at g mail *******.

[moniviolin]

Scout,

I happen to be in almost the same boat as you. My email is ***@****. We can get through this together. I need someone who understands what I'm going through, and the other posts on here are hard for me as well. I hope to hear from you soon.

Monica

[JourneyJoJo]

I am so sorry to hear of your loss. It's so hard having a m/c, but you have people here who understand.  

[trying43]

I am so sorry....limbo land *****...I had that with my first m/c.  We went back and forth with labs and ultrasounds it was agonizing.  I am still praying for u either way.  Good luck to u.

[adgal]

Oh Scout, I am so so very sorry.  

First off, it is not selfish to need to not read the other posts.  Those that have been around a long time here will tell you that every time I go through this, I have to take a break.  It is hard and it is such an incredibly emotional time.  It's also not awful to want it to just be over.  I often think that feeling of limbo is worse then the actual experience.  It's hard to begin to recover emotionally when you know the physical part is still to come.  So please do not think that anyone here thinks less of you and do not be hard on yourself.

Also know that you do have support if and when you need it.  If you wish to just talk to someone who has been there privately, please pm me.  If you need to scream, yell and get all those emotions out, this is a safe place to do that.  We understand.

I was so hoping this would turn out differently.  I am thinking of you and so wish I could reach right through the screen right now and give you a big hug.  Be good to yourself and know, when you are ready, we are here.  (((hugs))) sweet lady.  Amanda

[Scout8601]

just went to bathroom and am bleeding quite a bit and cramping has just started.  So......hopefully it will be quick. thanks everyone for your support and prayers.  

[Scout8601]

I wanted to update here bc I just hate it when I'm reading about someone and they just disappear. so if anyone is interested:

I got my second level back and it only went up from 2156 to 2866 and that was from Monday to thursday.  My progesterone went down to 34.  they want me to come back on Monday for more labs.  this is just so agonizing.  I know this is going to sound really awful, but if it's going to end in m/c I just want it over already.  (and I know that's where it's heading, but when it goes up even just a bit I  have this  magical thinking where I think it's going to work out so I'll get a bit excited and then I'll remember that over the last 10 days it's only gone up 1345 and that can't be a healthy pregnancy)

It feels like I'm stuck in limbo....can't get excited bc it's not going well, but can't totally give up b/c it keeps creeping up there.  So here I am, stuck. I'll cry for hours and then I'll think, "maybe, maybe this will work out.  maybe I'll be one of those who will carry to term despite all the bad numbers, one of those who they just can't really explain what was going on but the baby is healthy"...that's my magical thinking, but that's all I have to hold on to right now.  

I'm sorry I haven't been around to read about others. I could only click on this thread from my profile bc I cry everytime I see about someone being pregnant, so I'm having to stay away from this forum.  I know that's selfish of me when all of you have been so wonderful; it's just where I am right now. And have you ever noticed how many commercials are about babies and childeren...it's like they are everywhere and all I do is cry.   But, I do wish everyone here the best and hope you all are blessed with a healthy pregnancy.  

[1mommyof8]

I agree with what the others said, your HCG went up quickly the first check, then leveled off some, but they take longer to double after they reach a certain point. Keep positive, you never know!

I hope you get better news next blood draw.. Good luck

[trying43]

I am praying things will be ok.  Good luck tomorrow.

[adgal]

I know...just thinking about this hurts so so badly.  So for now, I shall have hope for you.  Please know we are here.  Funny thing about this place..we don't even know each other, but can care so much.  Thinking about you and hoping for a good outcome.  xoxo

[Scout8601]

thank you both for trying to give me some hope, but honestly I just don't have any right now. I will go in the morning for labs but am not expecting any kind of miracle.  My head hurts from crying so much; this is so painful.  Thanks again.

[adgal]

Ok.  So, the hcg doubling time chart says that after 1200 it can take 96 hours plus to double.  Also, I checked my pregnancy tracker from my pregnancy with my son and my betas went from 996 to 3500 in 7 days!  I too thought I was miscarrying because they didn't double in the 48 to 72 hour time frame.

So here's the thing...yes, your numbers are rising slower.  However, your progesterone is fine.  Your not bleeding or cramping (and yes, you do spot while on progesterone supplements....I always did when I was miscarrying).  So unless something changes ie: bleeding, etc.  try to not focus on the negative.  Right now you are still pregnant. They are running your labs tomorrow again right?  So that will help.  I would not do an ultrasound until your 31st appointment just because right now it probably wouldn't be conclusive and could just create more stress.  

Hang in there.  This is absolutely the hardest time in pregnancy, especially when we have been through miscarriage.  We are here for you ok?  Sending lots of hugs and super positive thoughts your way.  I know this is sheer h***.  

[stacey10]

this is a good site as well www .complete-pregnancy-guide.com/hcglevelsinearlypregnancy.html and it shows the range

[adgal]

I wouldn't be counting you out yet.  It's actually only true that hcg levels double every 48 to 72 hours until your levels reach about 1200.  After that doubling time slows significantly.  I'll post the chart below this, but this doesn't sound problematic to me.  And your progesterone is just fine.  That is a very minor fluctuation, and that's really normal with progesterone.  Your levels rose.  I'm glad they are checking tomorrow, but don't throw in the towel ok?  Keep taking your progesterone...don't change anything until a Dr. has reviewed all the labs.  Honey, I don't mean to be mean because trust me, I so know where you are coming from.  You did exactly the sort of thing I would have done.  But you are self diagnosing, and you are jumping the gun here.  It's fear and stress talking.  Now, off to a warm bath with you. Get into a big fuzzy robe, put your feet up, drink a nice cup of decaf tea and let your partner rub your shoulders for a while.  Let me go find my chart and I'm also going to pull up my labs from my healthy pregnancy.  ((((Hugs)))

[stacey10]

if there is something wonky with your egg, and you would miscarry due to this the progesterone you are taking will not keep the pregnancy going, so dont stop it until you get those other bloods done, like I said it maybe a lab issue

[stacey10]

oops sorry 60 % not 50

[stacey10]

well they dont have to double, they just have to rise by 50% over 2 days, and if you have gone to two dif doctors for bloods, and they send them off to different labs, then thats why the numbers are slightly off, your not far off the 60% going on the second numbers, so I wouldnt go on them too much, maybe ask your doctor that you like to get more blood as they will go to the same lab and then you will know

[Scout8601]

I have a delimma as well and am not sure what to do.

The first time I got pregnant was 3 years ago and I had a m/c. I was seeing Dr. S.  then when I got pregnant last year I decided to see another doc that a friend recommended, Dr. R. (I m/c with that one too).  I really didn't like Dr. R., so when I got pregnant this time I went back to Dr. S. Dr. S did my first two labs and then wanted to see me Oct 31 for my first ob appt.

I was really anxious and wanted another lab, just to make sure everything was going up as it should, but Dr. S didn't think it was necessary.  So, I called Dr. R's office and told the nurse I had a positive HPT and could I come in for labs.  So that is the place where I had this 3rd lab drawn and they are the ones who want me to come back tomorrow.  They think all is okay bc they dont know about labs with Dr. S.

Okay, i know I shouldn't have done that.  I feel bad about it now. Should I call Dr. S. and let them know what I did and tell them what my numbers are so they can know they are not going up?  When I go for labs tomorrow (if I do) Dr. R's office will know something is wrong, but I don't want to deal with them bc i like Dr. S much better.

My sister told me to just wait until my Oct 31 appt., but I'm on progesterone and I don't want to keep taking it when I know it's pointless.  I'm worried that my body won't m/c bc of the progesterone, or that it will take longer.  What do you all think?  Should I call Dr. S and tell them what I did or should I just wait it out?

[Scout8601]

I should be about 5 weeks or so.  They want to check again tomorrow, but it seems really pointless.  I know that if it's not doubling then that indicates a pregnancy that's not viable.
  the first test showed my hcg at 461, then 3 days later at 1521, which was good, but now at 4 days later to only increase to 2156 is just really bad.  
  

[stacey10]

How many weeks are you? Are you having more bloods done?