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Coles in the Hospital :(
Cole woke up with a fever of 101.5 yesterday. and I tried giving him a bath and cooling him down and he took a nap and when he wokle I retook his temp, and it was 102.9, so I called his doctor and they wanted me to bring him in to there office. on my way there they called me back and asked me just to bring him to the hospital, because of him being so young they wanted to have him over here. So we got here and they did a catherator to get his urine, and a blood test and a spinal tap to get check his spinal fluid for manogitis. (sorry cant spell that) but anyway all his test came back normal. So there saying its just a virus. but we have to stay here and have him on antibiotics till the fever breaks. it is now the next day. and his temp flunctuated all night, it was 100.3 when we went to sleep, and it got all the way up to 102 during the night.. right now its at 101.9. Im so upset, i hate seeing him like this, hes so young. and the doctors havnt really told me anything.. so can anyone tell me how he would get this virus or what would give such a tiny baby such a high fever.. Thank you. and please keep cole in your prayers
A real cold sore generally lasts about 7-10 days. It is possible that your children can get the herpes virus from being in the affected mothers womb, however it's not always 100%.
To prevent or help prevent your child from getting it, if he/she has not already. Never touch the cold sore without washing your hands with soap and warm water afterwards. Don't share food, or drinks you have eaten from when your having an outbreak, no kissing. So basically no contact whatsoever from your mouth to anything the baby may use, or to the baby directly.
To prevent or help prevent your child from getting it, if he/she has not already. Never touch the cold sore without washing your hands with soap and warm water afterwards. Don't share food, or drinks you have eaten from when your having an outbreak, no kissing. So basically no contact whatsoever from your mouth to anything the baby may use, or to the baby directly.
This post has just made me realize that I recently developed a cold sore about 2 years ago when working at a daycare. Is it possible that my baby will automatically have it because I do? And if he does not have it, what measures can I take to keep him from getting it? And while I have been pregnant I have had 1 coldsore that only lasted like less than 24 hrs, is that bad for the baby?
I wanted to add that chickenpox is a form of the herpes virus. You don't need to have a cold sore to pass the virus or an outbreak for that matter. I get cold sores very often and my doctor informed me that I can pass the virus to my children even without an outbreak.
I also wanted to add, since I have the cold sore variety of herpes, it can grow anywhere on your body and even INSIDE your mouth where it isn't visible.
The only way to get an accurate result of whether or not you have any type of herpes is during an outbreak as the rash/sore needs to be tested. If you have never had any bumps or sores on your vagina does not mean you do not have genital herpes, herpes can lie dormant in the body for YEARS! Thats why a lot of people will have cold sores often and then go years without a break out...kind of like remission.
Genital warts are different from genital herpes. Genital warts looks like a skin tag, I know because my ex husband had them, and genital herpes is more like a blister which opens up and becomes sore and leaks pus....kind of like a cold sore on your genitals. I had a skin tag on my vagina a year ago, and had it biopsied to make sure it was not a genital wart, as my ex husband had them, and it was negative, however...I could still have them, but the virus is just dormant.
ANY STD can lie dormant for years in your body, whether it be herpes, Chlamydia to name a few. I had the clap for god knows how long, and did not represent any symptoms until I developed PID(Pelvic Inflammatory Disease). My husband at the time was also tested, and his came back negative, but 6 months later at a retest it was positive...therefore I had been reinfected with it through him after I had it cleared up. My now ex husband NEVER had a single symptom of the clap.
I'm not saying you need to question the faithfulness of your DF, IF you had cold sores growing up as a child, you could have touched your cold sore and then touched your vagina while wiping after using the bathroom for example, which then could very well transfer it to that area. You can even get herpes in your eye, which can cause blindness. Your mother could have easily passed the herpes on to you during delivery. I could pass herpes to my children...just by carrying them in the womb. You don't need to have an outbreak to pas the virus, which is why the doctors could be worried about Cole having the herpes virus.
I also wanted to add, since I have the cold sore variety of herpes, it can grow anywhere on your body and even INSIDE your mouth where it isn't visible.
The only way to get an accurate result of whether or not you have any type of herpes is during an outbreak as the rash/sore needs to be tested. If you have never had any bumps or sores on your vagina does not mean you do not have genital herpes, herpes can lie dormant in the body for YEARS! Thats why a lot of people will have cold sores often and then go years without a break out...kind of like remission.
Genital warts are different from genital herpes. Genital warts looks like a skin tag, I know because my ex husband had them, and genital herpes is more like a blister which opens up and becomes sore and leaks pus....kind of like a cold sore on your genitals. I had a skin tag on my vagina a year ago, and had it biopsied to make sure it was not a genital wart, as my ex husband had them, and it was negative, however...I could still have them, but the virus is just dormant.
ANY STD can lie dormant for years in your body, whether it be herpes, Chlamydia to name a few. I had the clap for god knows how long, and did not represent any symptoms until I developed PID(Pelvic Inflammatory Disease). My husband at the time was also tested, and his came back negative, but 6 months later at a retest it was positive...therefore I had been reinfected with it through him after I had it cleared up. My now ex husband NEVER had a single symptom of the clap.
I'm not saying you need to question the faithfulness of your DF, IF you had cold sores growing up as a child, you could have touched your cold sore and then touched your vagina while wiping after using the bathroom for example, which then could very well transfer it to that area. You can even get herpes in your eye, which can cause blindness. Your mother could have easily passed the herpes on to you during delivery. I could pass herpes to my children...just by carrying them in the womb. You don't need to have an outbreak to pas the virus, which is why the doctors could be worried about Cole having the herpes virus.
Well as far as other people go, all you have to tell them is simply that he had a virus, the rest is none of their business.
ugh.. finally.. my phone will let me post!! I've been trying to tell you that my daughter had this about 4 months ago.. i have never had a cold sore in my life but somehow my daughter who just turned 3 was running a high fever which she's never sick besides common colds anyways took her in and found out she had what they called herp-an-gina don't know the exact spelling.. anyways she was sick for like 5 days now everytime she gets a cold a cold sore comes with it. But i remember a nurse telling me when i had my daughter to be very careful around her because ppl who carry the cold sore virus can pass it to her. i've never had one in my life but DH gets them occasionally and so does him mom. Hope that helps you understand more clearly.:)
Well he hasnt had any sores or outbreaks. there saying that his live emzymes are low or something, i cant really ever understand anything they tell me. but they said if his temp stays down till 4am we can go home first thing in the morning. and yea i thought we got the test back in the morning. but now idk, they put him on the medicine for the herpes crap anyway, they said even if he didnt have it it wouldnt hurt him to have it or not have it. this is soo depressing, either way if its my fault or not, people can be so cruel, and are just gonna assume it is, and spread rumors. and ill never hear the end of it, plus i work at our local bar, and people will just be a holes about it.
It just depends. Most likely it's Simplex 1, especially since you said you've had cold sores, but don't go blaming yourself. Herps Simplex 1 is a widely misunderstood and misdiagnosed virus. Most people have NO IDEA that is what causes cold sores. If he didn't have exposure from you, he would from any number of other people. I have 4 kids. I, too, too have the simplex 1 virus so I'm fairly sure that's where DS5 (i mistypedabove I meant DS not DD) got it from. But out of 4 kids, he's the only one who has. There's no telling who will get it and who will have a good enough resistance to it.
I doubt if this IS what is wrong with Cole that it's Simplex 2. Simplex 1 is normally tested for since it doesn't commonly affect the genitals.
My pediatrician told me that if it is caught early...like on the first "outbreak" and the medication is given to treat it, it is far more likely the child will never have another occurance, or will have fewer occurances than if the child has several outbreaks before it's diagnosed and treated properly. The earlier it's caught the better becuase, with the help of medication, they can build up the resistance to it. While they'll never be RID of it, it's less likely to affect them later in life.
Just as it was nothing your parents could have done to prevent YOU from being exposed, there's nothing YOU could have done to prevent Cole from being exposed. As I said, if it wasn't you (and there's not guarantee it WAS) he could ahve been exposed by someone else later down the road.
BUT, there's no point blaming anyone, especially right now, the tests haven't come back so you don't know for certain that is it.
I doubt if this IS what is wrong with Cole that it's Simplex 2. Simplex 1 is normally tested for since it doesn't commonly affect the genitals.
My pediatrician told me that if it is caught early...like on the first "outbreak" and the medication is given to treat it, it is far more likely the child will never have another occurance, or will have fewer occurances than if the child has several outbreaks before it's diagnosed and treated properly. The earlier it's caught the better becuase, with the help of medication, they can build up the resistance to it. While they'll never be RID of it, it's less likely to affect them later in life.
Just as it was nothing your parents could have done to prevent YOU from being exposed, there's nothing YOU could have done to prevent Cole from being exposed. As I said, if it wasn't you (and there's not guarantee it WAS) he could ahve been exposed by someone else later down the road.
BUT, there's no point blaming anyone, especially right now, the tests haven't come back so you don't know for certain that is it.
So that explains it. Ive had cold sores alot growing up as a kid but not so much now. so now im thinking this is all my fault. but if it is simplex b, how is that. i know you say you can have it without an outbreak but like i said ive been tested 4 times in the last year and half. and like my mom broguht up, when your pregnant these things show up more then likely if you wernt pregnat. and three of those tests were when i was pregnant.
It wasn't so long ago that I researched it....at the beginning of the year is when they FINALLY told me that was what was wrong with DD5. His fever was hovering around 104, the sores popped up etc. They told me he had streptococal tonsilitis or some crap but after several days the antibiotics weren't doing jack and i took him back to a diff ped in the same practice (the older one who's been around awhile) and he said it was herpes, they gave him a round of acyclovir and some cream for his sores and he was better with in a day or two. So it's pretty fresh in my mind LOL. Probably the only reason *I* remembered!
My bad LOL like I said i THOUGHT it was B but I couldn't remember LOL. Glad someone had a bit more insight to it because I knew I was on the right track but I hate to give incomplete info!
Herpes doesn't necessarily mean what you normally thing of as an STD. HOWEVER, you can be a herpes carrier and never have symptoms. But depending on which simplex it could be Simplex 1 which is the strain that causes cold sores etc or Simplex 2 which is the one most often known for genital warts. Simplex 1 is FAR more common than most people want to think. Anyone who has ever had a cold sore has Simplex 1. My DS5, somewhere along the line, was exposed to the simplex 1 virus. Every once in awhile he starts to get the cold sores on his lips...sometimes just one, sometimes a cluster of them. If it's really bad, he gets a very high fever, feels sick to his stomach and gets white spots on his tonsils. It's been mistaken for strep throat and tonsilits. Unfortunately there is no way to tell how he was exposed to it. It could have been a kid who sneezed on him, someone he drank or ate after, or who knows what. I hope that he does not have it becuase it never goes away and there is no cure. There are ways to manage the symptoms tho.
I did want to point out that Ashelen has it backwards ( sorry girl LOL) Simplex 1 (or A) is the "cold sore" variety of the virus...it can manifest in several different ways...Simplex 2 (or B) is the one most commonly associated with gential herpes and as an STD.
Unfortunately even if you or DF WERE to test positive for it there is NO WAY to know when it was contracted. The herpes virus can be dormant for YEARS and never cause an outbreak...or it can be dormant for years and an illness or something that compromises the immune system cuases an outbreak.. As I said before, some people can be carriers of the virus and never experience a single symptom and never know they have it. So, on the off chance one of you WERE to test positive, it does NOT mean that whoever was unfaithful it could very well be from years ago. Anyway, I'm really hoping this is NOT the case, but as Ashelen said you need to knowWHICH herpes simplex they are suspecting.
I did want to point out that Ashelen has it backwards ( sorry girl LOL) Simplex 1 (or A) is the "cold sore" variety of the virus...it can manifest in several different ways...Simplex 2 (or B) is the one most commonly associated with gential herpes and as an STD.
Unfortunately even if you or DF WERE to test positive for it there is NO WAY to know when it was contracted. The herpes virus can be dormant for YEARS and never cause an outbreak...or it can be dormant for years and an illness or something that compromises the immune system cuases an outbreak.. As I said before, some people can be carriers of the virus and never experience a single symptom and never know they have it. So, on the off chance one of you WERE to test positive, it does NOT mean that whoever was unfaithful it could very well be from years ago. Anyway, I'm really hoping this is NOT the case, but as Ashelen said you need to knowWHICH herpes simplex they are suspecting.
I'm so glad that Cole's temperature is going down and it looks like he'll be released soon (I hope you're back home with him now!!)
Daniel, my older son, was in the hospital for 3 days when he was just 2 weeks old (for eye sugery) and so I know what you mean about it being so hard to see them like that, so helpless :-(
We all got really sick with a bad cold virus back in February when Gil was just a couple of weeks old and our doctor's office told us to just take him right to the hospital if he developed a fever - they don't mess around with these things with little babies, which is a very good thing!! :-)
Daniel, my older son, was in the hospital for 3 days when he was just 2 weeks old (for eye sugery) and so I know what you mean about it being so hard to see them like that, so helpless :-(
We all got really sick with a bad cold virus back in February when Gil was just a couple of weeks old and our doctor's office told us to just take him right to the hospital if he developed a fever - they don't mess around with these things with little babies, which is a very good thing!! :-)
Well if they truly suspect it's herpes they HAVE to test to rule it out because it will require a different treatment plan. If he does come back positive there are a few options...one, you and DF need to get tested....two...are they saying what KIND of herpes? there are several different types and only ONE is genital like you're thinking. the herpes simplex virus (I think simplex B) is actually the same one you get when you have cold sores...it may or may NOT cause bumps, lesions, rashes and/or FEVER. almost everyone has it, but some people simply react differently to it. For instance I had a little rash break out on my finger in 2007 and I couldn't figure out what it was and when the doctor said herpes I was like...WTF?!?!? freaking out...but it turns out it's just that cold sore virus and there's no way to get rid of it but you can treat outbreaks very very easily.
the third option is that somebody ELSE has the simplex virus and has held/kissed/snuggled Cole since he was born and transferred it...but I would be very sure to ask what kind of herpes the doctor suspects because that will determine what your next step would be if he comes back positive (STD testing for DF since you know you haven't strayed...sorry to be blunt but that's always something to keep in the back of your mind if it comes back positive for genital, because that would mean you would have it now too and through you Cole...and the other option would be to ask family and friends if any of them have a strange bump/rash anywhere on their bodies and have them tested for the simplex.)
the third option is that somebody ELSE has the simplex virus and has held/kissed/snuggled Cole since he was born and transferred it...but I would be very sure to ask what kind of herpes the doctor suspects because that will determine what your next step would be if he comes back positive (STD testing for DF since you know you haven't strayed...sorry to be blunt but that's always something to keep in the back of your mind if it comes back positive for genital, because that would mean you would have it now too and through you Cole...and the other option would be to ask family and friends if any of them have a strange bump/rash anywhere on their bodies and have them tested for the simplex.)
So i dont think anyone seen my question a few posts back. but they are testing my baby for herpes.. wtf is that? I have been tested my whole life and always negative. blood work and vagina work. and I even had 3 pap smears during my pregnancy. and I dont have any bumps or never had a problem with burning or anything while i pee. Neither has DF.. they say it only takes 6 months to show up, okay so then its not like i could have recently got it, i got checked before i got with DF and so did he, and weve been together for a year and half with only each other. and Ive been checked 4 times within that year and a half. and i told the stupid pediatrition that, and he acts like he dont believe me, like hes set on that being what it is. why in the hell is he being so stupid and not listening to me.. and i asked the nurse and she tried telling me its possilbe for a newborn to get it if the mother dont have it, and i asked her how and she said from inside the womb.. okay he was in my womb and i dont have it so how in the hell could he have it? Im so annoyed, and Df keeps making jokes about us havin herpes and stuff. all though i know we dont, i dont think its very funny, and cant find the humor in it that he does. and im worried that someones gonna hear that there testing him for herpes and me being from a tiny tiny town, people are gonna start spreading rumors.. does any of this make since to u, cause it dont to me
Thank you, but theres nothing about this thats quick lol.. we have been here since Friday. its so exhausting. it smells so bad in here, i hate the smell of hospitals, and all the introuptions. nurse walk in here every 5 mintues. cant get no sleep... lol..
But his temp was 98.5 at 6 am, and then at 11 am it was 99.2. so still low. and they said we can go home whenever his temp stays down for 24 hours and when we get his last blood test tomorrow. I hate how long blood work and stuff takes..
But his temp was 98.5 at 6 am, and then at 11 am it was 99.2. so still low. and they said we can go home whenever his temp stays down for 24 hours and when we get his last blood test tomorrow. I hate how long blood work and stuff takes..
Hi Ammanda, I am really sorry to hear about Cole. I cannot imagine what you must be going through to see your little man in sucha vulnerable state. I am only 6 months pregnant and couldn't even imagine seeing my little guy in the hospital. Please keep us posted on Cole's recovery, and I am wishing your family for a quick return home!
Good Luck .... I know this is all exhausting - but he is in the best place he can be right now.... Please keep us updated!
Oh no im sorry to hear that. what is wrong with him? I hope all is okay. Were still in the hospital been here since Friday and will prolly be here till Tuesday or longer. his temp just wont stay down, it goes down for like an hour then goes right back up. he was doing so good on his own laying in bed by himself and sleeping, then today he got to have a couple family visitors, and of course they wanted to hold him. so now he wont let me and DF put him down. I love him so much and want him to be okay and get well, im so exhausted and drained.. I hope we can go home soon. I wish they would come to our house and watch him and take care of him lol.. I hate hospitals. plus me and DF are sharing a bed, and it *****. and the food here *****. and im sick of fast food. I want to be home cleaning and working out, and taking care of cole and all his stuff. here all i can do is lay down and watch tv, and worry about him. ugh im just venting...
But anyway. we should get his xray results back tomorrow morning, so ill update with that.
But anyway. we should get his xray results back tomorrow morning, so ill update with that.
OMG... Ammanda I can totally relate. We were at the hospital all night last night with Seth and got back home this morning. My heart breaks to see him sick like that and don't wish this on any mother. Take good care of little Cole and I'll pray for his speedy recovery.
Oh my... i realize that you may be a tough spot as far as child care, but what happened last night clearly illustrates that she does not use good judgement when it comes to the baby's health. And she clearly does not respect your concerns about health and safety. Do you have any alternatives at all? A virus simple enough to cause her only a sore throat could easily cause the condition he has.
WOW, I hope you gave DH hell about his mother doing what she did. I'd be pissed and frankly I'd tell the hospital under no circumstances was she allowed back to visit regardless of what DH says and I would explain why.
I hope they get you some answers soon and you get to take him home, I know it's frusterating having to be in the hospital with a little one. :(
I hope they get you some answers soon and you get to take him home, I know it's frusterating having to be in the hospital with a little one. :(
Thanks for your response. And yea the dog is the sweetest thing in the world. and i hate how people catorgize pitbulls for being mean. this dog is so sweet, but hes never been around a baby. and everytime the baby cries he comes running and wants near him. I dont know if its a protective thing or if he is threatend and doesnt like him. and his tail is always wagging and it hurts when hit with it. and there house is so small, and hes a pitbull so hes like bigger then all the furniture and tables. and his tail scares the **** out of me.. they see me get irritated all the time when im there about the dog, and they put it in his room. but then Dfs brother who is the owner of the dog, lets him right back out. its so frustrating.
And about the cleaning thing. we have been talking about there dirty house from the moment I got pregnant, and his mom will say yea were gonna clean it or whatever and never does. She is on disability and has back problems that in my opinion she babies too much. so she dotn do anything. and DFs brother and sister are such losers, they live there for free one is 20 and the other is 17, the 17 year old dont go to school, and the 20 year old, doesnt have a job, lisence or a car. the 17 year old only leaves his room to get food and go to the bathroom, all he does is play video games. and all the 20 year old does is play on the internet or go sleep with every guy around. My s2b MIL cant get them to do anything without having to pay them or give them cigarettes. its ridiculous. Df has even tried going over there and telling her he will help her clean up, and she always has an excuse to why she cant. and another thing that pisses me off, is his mom called yesterday and said she couldnt come up here cause she had a sore throat which is fine i didnt want her here anyway. There wasnt supposed to be visitors here, and i had told my mom and sister that they couldnt come up here, so t wouldnt be fair for his mom to come. well i went to work last night, and he calls me saying shes coming up here so he can go outside for a bit cause he was going crazy in the room. so i told him to get her a mask to wear and not to let her hold him, and he agreed. well i get back here and shes feeding him, talking about how she feels better. it dont matter if you feel better obviously there was a reason for the sore throat and it just doesnt go away in a couple hours.
i just want my baby to be okay again. his iv fell out last night, so they left it out for the night and just put it back in, my poor baby. but they said he didnt cry at all when they did it. hes so strong. but his temp. is stil 101.4. his cultres and everything came back negative so its just a tiny virus i guess. im so sick of being in the hospital and i just want to go home with my family. stupid pedeatrition was saying that sometimes for a fever not to start going down or anything after 3 days that it could be herepes or something. wtf, i asked how he would get herpes and he said from the birth canal.. well okay thatsfunny i had 3 pap smears during my pregnancy and it was all clear.. so hes so stupid and i even told him that but there gonna test him anyway..
And about the cleaning thing. we have been talking about there dirty house from the moment I got pregnant, and his mom will say yea were gonna clean it or whatever and never does. She is on disability and has back problems that in my opinion she babies too much. so she dotn do anything. and DFs brother and sister are such losers, they live there for free one is 20 and the other is 17, the 17 year old dont go to school, and the 20 year old, doesnt have a job, lisence or a car. the 17 year old only leaves his room to get food and go to the bathroom, all he does is play video games. and all the 20 year old does is play on the internet or go sleep with every guy around. My s2b MIL cant get them to do anything without having to pay them or give them cigarettes. its ridiculous. Df has even tried going over there and telling her he will help her clean up, and she always has an excuse to why she cant. and another thing that pisses me off, is his mom called yesterday and said she couldnt come up here cause she had a sore throat which is fine i didnt want her here anyway. There wasnt supposed to be visitors here, and i had told my mom and sister that they couldnt come up here, so t wouldnt be fair for his mom to come. well i went to work last night, and he calls me saying shes coming up here so he can go outside for a bit cause he was going crazy in the room. so i told him to get her a mask to wear and not to let her hold him, and he agreed. well i get back here and shes feeding him, talking about how she feels better. it dont matter if you feel better obviously there was a reason for the sore throat and it just doesnt go away in a couple hours.
i just want my baby to be okay again. his iv fell out last night, so they left it out for the night and just put it back in, my poor baby. but they said he didnt cry at all when they did it. hes so strong. but his temp. is stil 101.4. his cultres and everything came back negative so its just a tiny virus i guess. im so sick of being in the hospital and i just want to go home with my family. stupid pedeatrition was saying that sometimes for a fever not to start going down or anything after 3 days that it could be herepes or something. wtf, i asked how he would get herpes and he said from the birth canal.. well okay thatsfunny i had 3 pap smears during my pregnancy and it was all clear.. so hes so stupid and i even told him that but there gonna test him anyway..
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