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Breastfeeding LAW???
http://www.divine.ca/en/fun-and-entertainment/news-and-gossip/c_50_i_bs2bs114545/gisele-bundchen-wants-breastfeeding-law-1.html
Did anyone hear about this? I breastfeed my 6 month old (and BFed my oldest son until he was 6 months old) and, while I do think it's the most "natural" option for a baby (and even companies that formula, like Nestle, even state this on their packaging), I'd NEVER EVER make a blanket statement like this, that it's wrong or cruel for a woman to feed her child formula. There are so many variables.....and some women CAN'T breastfeed. And some choose not to. No woman should be made to feel guilty for her inability to BF or for a choice she has made to not do so.
Did anyone hear about this? I breastfeed my 6 month old (and BFed my oldest son until he was 6 months old) and, while I do think it's the most "natural" option for a baby (and even companies that formula, like Nestle, even state this on their packaging), I'd NEVER EVER make a blanket statement like this, that it's wrong or cruel for a woman to feed her child formula. There are so many variables.....and some women CAN'T breastfeed. And some choose not to. No woman should be made to feel guilty for her inability to BF or for a choice she has made to not do so.
Cassandrajane, don't apologize...you were trying to help, and I appreciate that. I wish just stimulation would have helped, but it didn't unfortunately...maybe this time it will.
aha.... Projectile squirting LOL... I can just see baby Grey stand one side of the room and you squirting to see if it will get in his mouth... Like a game throwing grapes in the air and trying to catch them LOL... Sorry:) (It is you that has baby Grey right?? If I am wrong I will look such a ***)
And I am not saying formula is bad because it isnt I was brought up on it, and my baby will have it as well. I just wanted Peanut to have breastmilk as well, and my only way of that is pumping because of these things on my nipples. LOL...
But either way baby has certain bottles that have a breast shaped teets (I cant spell sorry) so it gets the feel because it cant have mine! :( If they didnt puss, I would BF, but as they do I cant :( STUPID! LOL
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And I am not saying formula is bad because it isnt I was brought up on it, and my baby will have it as well. I just wanted Peanut to have breastmilk as well, and my only way of that is pumping because of these things on my nipples. LOL...
But either way baby has certain bottles that have a breast shaped teets (I cant spell sorry) so it gets the feel because it cant have mine! :( If they didnt puss, I would BF, but as they do I cant :( STUPID! LOL
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Yeah I get what you're saying no worries..
Not sure how the pumping will work for you. I personally can hardly Let Down into a breaspump so I always get tiny little bits but when I BF the baby can gorge himself...and I can squirt quite a bit out just from squeezing my nipple so I know I just don't do well with pumps. IMO they're handy but pumping suuuucks, lol.
Not sure how the pumping will work for you. I personally can hardly Let Down into a breaspump so I always get tiny little bits but when I BF the baby can gorge himself...and I can squirt quite a bit out just from squeezing my nipple so I know I just don't do well with pumps. IMO they're handy but pumping suuuucks, lol.
Yeah, I like helping people and things, and sometimes when I don't know much about something, I do sometimes put I am not 100% sure on this, but other people on here know ALOT more than me so they can help better but I will help where I can if that makes sense?
But with the pumping thing, I was at work and thought I would rather learn from experience rather than research. Because I thought it would be better, and easier :)
And sorry Smjmekg, I thought Stimulation might help it... Sorry. :D...
Don't worry at all, you don't sound like you're being mean and I understand :)...
I do learn from other peoples comments,Like yourself... and then I try and help people by knowledge (that needs to grow) from what I learnt from comments and answers that you and other members have posted who do know what you are talking about and do help me alot even when it isnt asked for, by answers you give other members,and I take that knowledge and try and help others with it if that makes sense???
Like I take your answers, put them in my noggin, and try and use them later on in life to help others :)
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But with the pumping thing, I was at work and thought I would rather learn from experience rather than research. Because I thought it would be better, and easier :)
And sorry Smjmekg, I thought Stimulation might help it... Sorry. :D...
Don't worry at all, you don't sound like you're being mean and I understand :)...
I do learn from other peoples comments,Like yourself... and then I try and help people by knowledge (that needs to grow) from what I learnt from comments and answers that you and other members have posted who do know what you are talking about and do help me alot even when it isnt asked for, by answers you give other members,and I take that knowledge and try and help others with it if that makes sense???
Like I take your answers, put them in my noggin, and try and use them later on in life to help others :)
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Cassandra~~~I tried everything I could think of, researched, and talked to a lactation consultant. If I'm not mistaken not being able to BF was the initial reason for me joining this site. Either that or I was still pregnant...I don't remember, anyways. Some people just aren't as lucky as those who over produce and can pump and store extra milk. My whole point is just because this girl was able to BF and doesn't understand the complications/difficulties of others' experiences does NOT give her the right to say they should make a law requiring women to BF. If that were an enforced law a lot of babies would die because they aren't being fed because mom can't BF at all, or they aren't getting enough and they're starving. People who have never been in a certain situation can never fully understand it. She didn't have problems BFing, so therefore she doesn't see why women don't, or can't...she just thinks they're in the wrong, period, when in fact she is for not being sympathetic and compassionate. A lot of women, myself included, are heart broken when they can't give their babies milk from their breasts. It's such a special moment, and a bonding moment for mom and baby. And I don't put down a single person who is choosing not to BF, because they have their reasons.
The ONLY thing you are trying to achieve is feeding your baby, and IMO as long as your baby is fed, and not starving...do what you feel is right for you and your child. Whether that be BF, formula, or a mix of both is up to you and you alone. It's a personal choice, and sometimes it's not a choice at all...as long as baby's tummy is full and baby is growing and gaining weight, it doesn't matter how.
The ONLY thing you are trying to achieve is feeding your baby, and IMO as long as your baby is fed, and not starving...do what you feel is right for you and your child. Whether that be BF, formula, or a mix of both is up to you and you alone. It's a personal choice, and sometimes it's not a choice at all...as long as baby's tummy is full and baby is growing and gaining weight, it doesn't matter how.
No and I agree that you should ask questions...but you do give a lot of advice that you clearly don't have any knowledge on and while I really think you're a nice person and you mean absolutely the best, sometimes it's best just not to answer when you don't know because A) you might hurt someone's feelings and B) you might give them bad advice...and that can be really harmful when it comes to pregnancy.
I'm not trying to be mean like I said I know you mean no harm but it really does help to only answer the questions you personally have experience with, OR admit that you don't have any as a sort of "caveat emptor" (buyer beware) for the person you're giving advice to so they know to take your advice with a grain of salt.
i just think it's really important that girls on the forum are getting as accurate advice as possible because pregnancy advice given wrong can go very very wrong...not that anything you've said has been harmful, but that's where I'm coming from as far as researching things goes. I've seen you post long quotes from sites where you've researched things for the original poster and that's WONDERFUL that's exactly what a person should do when they don't have an answer...so kudos for that :).
I'm not trying to be mean like I said I know you mean no harm but it really does help to only answer the questions you personally have experience with, OR admit that you don't have any as a sort of "caveat emptor" (buyer beware) for the person you're giving advice to so they know to take your advice with a grain of salt.
i just think it's really important that girls on the forum are getting as accurate advice as possible because pregnancy advice given wrong can go very very wrong...not that anything you've said has been harmful, but that's where I'm coming from as far as researching things goes. I've seen you post long quotes from sites where you've researched things for the original poster and that's WONDERFUL that's exactly what a person should do when they don't have an answer...so kudos for that :).
Thats what I meant... do it when her milk has developed... untill she gives birth and about 5 mins before she is due to feed.
Its just the lumpyy things on my nipples, they aint peeling, I got spot things I have has since I was 12 that puss.. and I can cover them up (The lumps with plasters) when I want to express but cant if I wanted to breastfeed, because the baby puts the whole nipple into the mouth... If that makes sense.... and because of my Anorexia that I havent fully gotten over, I have been discharged from the clinic.. but I am still trying to eat 3 full meals a day, instead of little and often and small portions... Like a littleone basically.... I dont and wont take in enough to give the baby all the goodness it needs after a month or so... If that makes sense as well....??
I know there is alot of things I don't know,I am rather stupid and oblivious to somethings and I know that. I am honestly trying to learn, I do read books, and I find the best way of learning is by asking... But I didnt know you could breastfeed after having breast implants because its something I wouldn't experience so I havent bothered looking it up. If that makes sensse.
And as I haven't experienced pumping, and the books I have read on it, doesn't explain if it hurts or not, so I asked someone who has done it, and has experience, as I feel I would benefit alot more and understand better like that than searching and getting annoyed and things, and I was told straight and I do understand... if I pump all the time, I will get sore, it doesn't hurt as such and things like that. :)
I am trying :) I do have alot to learn, and I wish I could learn faster. But I learn and understand more by asking questions. :)
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Its just the lumpyy things on my nipples, they aint peeling, I got spot things I have has since I was 12 that puss.. and I can cover them up (The lumps with plasters) when I want to express but cant if I wanted to breastfeed, because the baby puts the whole nipple into the mouth... If that makes sense.... and because of my Anorexia that I havent fully gotten over, I have been discharged from the clinic.. but I am still trying to eat 3 full meals a day, instead of little and often and small portions... Like a littleone basically.... I dont and wont take in enough to give the baby all the goodness it needs after a month or so... If that makes sense as well....??
I know there is alot of things I don't know,I am rather stupid and oblivious to somethings and I know that. I am honestly trying to learn, I do read books, and I find the best way of learning is by asking... But I didnt know you could breastfeed after having breast implants because its something I wouldn't experience so I havent bothered looking it up. If that makes sensse.
And as I haven't experienced pumping, and the books I have read on it, doesn't explain if it hurts or not, so I asked someone who has done it, and has experience, as I feel I would benefit alot more and understand better like that than searching and getting annoyed and things, and I was told straight and I do understand... if I pump all the time, I will get sore, it doesn't hurt as such and things like that. :)
I am trying :) I do have alot to learn, and I wish I could learn faster. But I learn and understand more by asking questions. :)
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no, that doesn't help until the milk is already in.
Cassandra I would really advise doing a lot of pregnancy and breast-feeding research I really think it would help you. We on the forum can tell you things but every now and then you say "i didn't know that!" to something VERY Important and I really think that it would help you to get some books and research. I'm not sure that you'll be able to pump if you can't breast-feed, but I don't know the reason you say you can't breast-feed so I'm not 100% sure on that. peeling nipples and/or nipple lesions are going to affect pumping too. but peeling nipples don't mean you can't BF...there are things called nipple shields. like I said you might really want to borrow some books and do some research on it I really think it would help.
Cassandra I would really advise doing a lot of pregnancy and breast-feeding research I really think it would help you. We on the forum can tell you things but every now and then you say "i didn't know that!" to something VERY Important and I really think that it would help you to get some books and research. I'm not sure that you'll be able to pump if you can't breast-feed, but I don't know the reason you say you can't breast-feed so I'm not 100% sure on that. peeling nipples and/or nipple lesions are going to affect pumping too. but peeling nipples don't mean you can't BF...there are things called nipple shields. like I said you might really want to borrow some books and do some research on it I really think it would help.
I dont know if this might be able to help.... smjemkg have you tried massaging your breasts about 4 - 5 times a day??
I dont know if it helps, But it might??
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I dont know if it helps, But it might??
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WOW! OMFreakinG...Ya know, I cried so so so many times because I wasn't able to produce more than an ounce at a time from BOTH breasts WITH the help of medication...I tried pumping every hour in between the two hours I tried to BF DS...NOTHING helped me, and I was SO mad that my mom kept telling me how she was able to BF me my brother and sister from day one, and at the mere thought or sight of a baby turned her into Niagra Falls...that article REALLY p!ssed me off. Now I'm hoping and praying with this baby that I'll be able to have a completely different experience, because I wanted nothing more than to be able to BF. My pregnancy and BF experiences were the exact OPPOSITE of what I wanted. I had a c/s with DS, and was unable to BF. I wanted all natural, no pain meds, as little medical intervention as possible. Now I'm trying this time around for my perfect birth and BF experiences I wanted with DS, but who knows...if I can't BF OH WELL! At least I can look at that bottle of formula and see exactly how many ounces my baby has taken in, and know that my baby is no longer hungry, and is eating! I really wish there were some way to reply to her and let her know exactly how we feel about what she has said. It is 110% wrong for her to say anything about other women...everyone is different and not everyone will have the same experience.
I can multitask LOL :)
Ahh..I get it now, I assumed that cause of silicone and things you wouldnt be able too...
But you know what they say about assuming,
if you assume you make an A$$ of u and me...
*I hate spelling you like that LOL....
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Ahh..I get it now, I assumed that cause of silicone and things you wouldnt be able too...
But you know what they say about assuming,
if you assume you make an A$$ of u and me...
*I hate spelling you like that LOL....
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Cassandrajane - I just sent you a message.
Being able to breastfeed if you've had implants or tissue removed all depends on how they cut you.
And pumping does not hurt, it takes extra time but if you can learn to multi-task it isn't that bad.
Being able to breastfeed if you've had implants or tissue removed all depends on how they cut you.
And pumping does not hurt, it takes extra time but if you can learn to multi-task it isn't that bad.
Oh, I thought implants effected it personally! I dont intend on getting them, so I havent learnt anything about them... But I honestly thought it effected it all... Hmmm. I suppose they have to make them as natural as possible!
Thats always annoying when people steal your future husbands LOL....
Please dont feel like a failure... it's not your fault, It wasnt your fault and I bet your little one is happy.. :)
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Thats always annoying when people steal your future husbands LOL....
Please dont feel like a failure... it's not your fault, It wasnt your fault and I bet your little one is happy.. :)
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Nowadays, most women with saline implants (under the muscle) are still able to breastfeed if there are no other "issues." It doesn't affect breastfeeding at all.. I am still fired up about Gisele's comment. What a dumba$$..I personally did not produce milk.. It was emotionally devastating, and I felt like a failure.. Ignorant comments regarding breastfeeding hit a serious nerve with me.. Maybe I will start a "I hate Gisele" website.. I was already mad she stole my future ex-husband... (Tom Brady..LOL)
Really? I thought it would because of the implant being in the way, or them changing things... Hmm learn something new everyday. Thank you for that. :) I honestly thought it couldn't happen.... Shows what I know LOL...
Can I ask you a question cocacopanda...
Does it hurt to pump? As that is my only option for the first month as I explained... Does it hurt??
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Can I ask you a question cocacopanda...
Does it hurt to pump? As that is my only option for the first month as I explained... Does it hurt??
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It's wrong to even say that! Some women have issues breastfeeding and by putting a law or statement like that out makes them feel much worse about not being able to continue breastfeeding. At 4 months I had to start adding formula to our son's diet due to supply issues thanks to some medication, by 6 months I was pumping/feeding every 2 hours for at LEAST 30 min each time (longer in the evenings when I was home), and I was lucky to get 5-10 oz.
Some women also find it hard to fit into there schedules. I know a few teachers who just don't have the time to pump during the day because they get 30 min for lunch (which most of it consists of walking to the other side of the building to get there lunch and/or heat it up). The teachers I know stressed about it so much that it was taking there attention away from there new baby and they started to get depressed and regretted even having a baby. Then when switching to formula they were finally able to "bond" with there child and enjoy the part of motherhood they were hoping for.
Also, with "fake" boobs, if you get the bob job done correctly it won't effect any of the milk glands and you are still able to breastfeed.
Some women also find it hard to fit into there schedules. I know a few teachers who just don't have the time to pump during the day because they get 30 min for lunch (which most of it consists of walking to the other side of the building to get there lunch and/or heat it up). The teachers I know stressed about it so much that it was taking there attention away from there new baby and they started to get depressed and regretted even having a baby. Then when switching to formula they were finally able to "bond" with there child and enjoy the part of motherhood they were hoping for.
Also, with "fake" boobs, if you get the bob job done correctly it won't effect any of the milk glands and you are still able to breastfeed.
Haha. She needs a slap in the nashers. She is so disrespectful and hurtful to the people who either CAN'T have children and so they can't BF, and or can't BF...
Stupid!!
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Stupid!!
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Suprised a Model has real boobs actually! So I am suprised she can BF... normally their boobs are fake.
I am slightly mad in the head.. so I actually come out with the weirdest things LOL.... Just the way I am, and its taken my Boyf 2 years to figure out, I am a nutcase deal with it. I will be hyper and mad and I can also be mature!!
I bet this model person wasn't breastfed!!
But I am actually suprised a Model has real boobies that can producee milk! LOL
Might be silicone gel not milk... LOL
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I am slightly mad in the head.. so I actually come out with the weirdest things LOL.... Just the way I am, and its taken my Boyf 2 years to figure out, I am a nutcase deal with it. I will be hyper and mad and I can also be mature!!
I bet this model person wasn't breastfed!!
But I am actually suprised a Model has real boobies that can producee milk! LOL
Might be silicone gel not milk... LOL
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cassandrajane lol!you always make me laugh with your parting shots.lol.
Well,not everyone can breastfeed due to various reasons so lets not force pple to do what they can not do.If she can breastfeed, she should go ahead but she has no right to force others to as well.
Well,not everyone can breastfeed due to various reasons so lets not force pple to do what they can not do.If she can breastfeed, she should go ahead but she has no right to force others to as well.
Like I said previously, I can't breastfeed, I have lumps on my nipples that have been there since I was 12 and sometimes since I was 12 they will puss, and I will get scared, Where as if I express I can cover them up and then produce milk so no puss can get in. If I decide to puss then. Also I dont take enough of ANYTHING in to be able to produce good milk after a month, and would basically be water after a month.. (This is what I was told by my midwife)... So I cant. And thats not fair ONE person saying people HAVE to BF, what if they can't do you expect their baby to go hungry???
Or find a boob donor... They don't exist, Sperm donors yes, boobie breastmilker donors NO. Formula is there for people like me and jbyrd1105 who wont be able too or cant/couldn't breastfeed!!!
Selfish moo head!!
(gotta cut down my swearing)
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Or find a boob donor... They don't exist, Sperm donors yes, boobie breastmilker donors NO. Formula is there for people like me and jbyrd1105 who wont be able too or cant/couldn't breastfeed!!!
Selfish moo head!!
(gotta cut down my swearing)
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I tried BF my daughter when she was born, but shockingly, it turned out my breast milk was giving my daughter Jaundice. I BF for 4 days, then the day before we were released from the hospital, they told me she had high levels of jaundice. So I stopped immediately and gave her formula til she turned 1. So no in my case, I wouldnt have been able to..
oh ya and breast feeding doesnt help every mom loose the baby weight. glad your still a size 00 giselle
are you kidding me!? I bfed my dd for 14 months and i do strongly feel it is the best thing for your baby. However that being said many mothers cant breastfed, no milk, cant latch or whatever now where would those baby's be without formula? get real Giselle!!
on her home birth, good for her and honestly I would love to do the same but she basically says its bad for us to have hospital births, yes in the old days it was the norm but it was also normal for alot of babies and even mothers to die.that has cut down thanks to medical intervention.
I myself had high blood pressure while in labour and that could have been a big problem but i had an iv after my dd's birth and was ok. my good friend hemorraged so bad she has to have surgery and with that 2 bags of blood...what would have happened if that was a home birth.
good for you Giselle but its not realistic for some of us
on her home birth, good for her and honestly I would love to do the same but she basically says its bad for us to have hospital births, yes in the old days it was the norm but it was also normal for alot of babies and even mothers to die.that has cut down thanks to medical intervention.
I myself had high blood pressure while in labour and that could have been a big problem but i had an iv after my dd's birth and was ok. my good friend hemorraged so bad she has to have surgery and with that 2 bags of blood...what would have happened if that was a home birth.
good for you Giselle but its not realistic for some of us
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