Use of Emergency Contraceptive with pregnant women?

[Hammaxster]

Everything I have read and researched indicates that the morning after pill is not effective is a woman is already pregnant. Everything I can find on the web indicates that it would not harm a fetus or cause a miscarriage - HOWEVER, one of my close friends tells me that her doctor told her to take a double dose which may cause termination, despite that she is 2 weeks pregnant...

Am I wrong to be suspicious and not beleive what she is saying?

[Bisous1977]

Holy Moly - just read all this!  Defo be more choosy of ur partners but don't let this make u too suspicious - us women are not all like that!  She just happened to be a minority and a serious psychopath ( i can hear the soundtrack of psycho!) ;o)  Good luck!

[Hammaxster]

I have been contacted by the hospital and the doctor. The letter is 100% FAKE. The hospital is taking legal action against her. Case closed. Moving on with my life.... Thanks again for everybody's help and support.

[Hammaxster]

More drama... this past Friday she actually produced a letter that was directed to me by name and signed by her doctor. Along with the letter she showed me several documents that looked official (test results, etc) and all of a sudden I started to think that she actually was telling the truth all along. I felt pretty bad and I found myself wondering if I actually had been a jerk for doubting her and for pushing so hard for this proof... I knew that if I could get her to give me a written letter from the doctor that this would be the only way I could actually get to the bottom of this and know for sure if she was lying - because that's the only way the doctor would speak to me about it.

So, even though the documents she showed me looked official - I decided that I needed to verify the letter that I was given. I called the doctor's office and asked to speak to the doctor. They told me that the particular doctor was not in on Friday... that she had not been in at all on Friday... So, how could the doctor have written me this letter dated Friday 12/7 if she was not even in the office on Friday 12/7??? I wondered about the possibility that MAYBE she sent it from home, but that didn't seem likely... I explained the situation to the secretary and she was nice enough to break the rules and told me that this person had been in the office, but only saw a nurse that day... She said that I had good reason to be suspicious and suggested that I call back on Monday to speak with the doctor....

Over the weekend I got harassed by this crazy woman AND her friend even sent me txts & emails calling me a ********* and telling me to be a man and "be there" for her because she needed me. I ignored everything...

Monday I called the doctor and spoke with her. When I asked her about the letter she had no idea what I was talking about, said that she was not in the office at all on Friday and had not seen this woman at all; that there was no record of any letter written to me, and assured me that the letter most certainly did not come from her. She asked me to fax in a copy of the letter so that she could get to the bottom of things. She said that she'd take a look at the letter and that either she - or someone from the office would get back to me...

I waited all day on Monday for a call back, but didn't get one. Guess who did call though - yeah, the crazy person called me and said that her doctor had contacted her (I assume to ask about the letter and where it came from) and told her that "I was unstable" etc...

So then yesterday I called back to the doctors office and they wouldn't speak to me. The receptionist stated that "I've been instructed not to speak with you. This has gone beyond this office." I'm assuming that the doctor may be looking into taking legal action against this crazy girl for creating a false letter, but at this point I really don't know.

Today I called the legal dept at the hospital and they referred me to the patient advocate group. I spoke to someone there and am waiting to hear back. I'm not certain what else I need to hear as proof that this was all a hoax, but I guess I just want to get more of an explanation... It would be great to know if the hospital was taking legal action against her - but I might not get to find that out.

Anyway - that is where I'm at. I'm now 99% positive that this was all a lie. She was dumb enough to create a false letter and forge a doctors name and hopefully now that she got caught she'll have to deal with some serious consequences. I'll write another post when the patient advocate group gets back to me.... Pretty freakin crazy story, huh?

[mamafessler]

wow...this is better than drama on TNT.  I am truly sorry for the **** she caused you, but it makes for great online reading.  Id suggest if she does try to get a restraining order print this forum out..its like a journal of all her ****.  Good Luck and hope you find a stable woman to procreate with someday.

[Sara113]

Could it be possible she was pregnant by someone else? Which might make positive pregnancy tests appear if she pulled the same drama with someone before she was with you. What I mean is... If she was with someone 2 weeks before you then if pregnant a HPT would show up positive because she would have been 4 weeks preg. Did she ever show you any of these HPT's that were positive?

[njeosys]

Yes... my husband has seen Fatal Attraction and it gives him the heeby jeebies! Well, I'm glad you got your head screwed on straight. I've known men who've fallen for women like this and married them because they didn't want to "hurt their feelings". Now they are the most miserable creatures you would ever see. Kudos to you! Hope you find some hot babe who has ambition and a brain. ;-Þ

[tarajanes]

Fatal attraction it is she is a bunny boiler,mate.you know the truth and she knows the truth,she will come unstuck at some point,even if she could produce letter from docs,you would know its real,as of the letter headings on docs letters,man i feel for you.her coment of being sick,is definately  true.glad you have cut all ties from her.change your mobile number,

And just totally ignore her,you must be some catch,LOL.
Na seriously im glad its all resolved,and a blessing she isnt pregnant.for your sake,as for your work situation,she behaves in a possesive manner,so im sure her work collegues already know whats she is like,it will blow over,good luck.and dont get involved with work collegues,bad mix..

[Hammaxster]

It feels more like that movie "fatal attraction" at this point... I woke up this morning to the following txt messages:

"U truly are a cruel & psychotic person who only cares about himself"

"I hope you are very happy w/ yourself. U have made this situation a nightmare for me which is wrong"

"I have asked nothing of u nor do u have any right to ask anything of me. I am terrified and sick from all the mental duress u have put me thru"

I guess that I'm not going to get to see any doctor's letter now since she is saying I "don't have the right" (even though she offered just last night) - obviously she can't show me proof if there is none.

I have cut all communication with her all together and hope that she just goes away. I'm no longer scared of the possibility that she is going to have my baby - but I do have a whole new set of fears about her stalking me and trying to slander me and ruin my reputation at work... Fun stuff.

[njeosys]

I feel like I'm in a soap opera... whoa! I can't believe this woman. Too many things not adding up. I don't think she would be told at the ER that she could no longer have children. A specialist would have to do labs and all sorts of tests to determine that. Miscarrying will not cause you to not be able to have children. I have a baby daughter, conceived two months after my m/c.

Don't even give her the satisfaction of contacting you again about this! Just drop it. Gosh I sound heartless, but when a person is screwing with another person over a PREGNANCY when there are millions of women out there crying over their dead children or unable to have babies... I get mad.

[Hammaxster]

So she is now back from her work trip and tonight I firmly told her that if she can't show me this letter or can't let me go to the doctor with her tomorrow then I can't speak with her any longer... She had a lovely reaction - claims that she is going to go to HR at work (not sure what that will accomplish) and she is also going to get a restraining order against me!!! (If anyone is going to need the restraining order I have a feeling it's me)

5 mins after this conversation - she calls and leaves me a message saying that she will get me a letter from her doctor tomorrow. I guess she has some forging homework to do tonight... If she truly does produce a letter then I suppose I can go to the doctor myself and ask them to verify (although not 100% sure the doctor will or can though based on HIPPA laws in the states).

This nightmare is finally almost over - and I may even get the satisfaction of being able to PROVE she has been lying if she is dumb enough to forge a letter...

Even if somehow this whole thing IS real - then at least she is not pregnant any more and I can get as far away as possible. Common sense and logical thinking all but proves she is lying though.

[tarajanes]

You shouldnt feel embarrased,i admire you for standing up to the posibility that she maybe preggers,but mate she aint,its all lies.as you say she wont let you see any letters,as she probably hasnt gotten any,a lesson learnt aye...

[Hammaxster]

Very convenient indeed... and yesterday I spoke with her and told her that she has 2 choices: either she proves that this is real by letting me go with her to the doctor and hearing first hand that she was truly pregnant - or I am completely done speaking to her at all.

Well, at first she said that I could go with her to the doctor - but that she is not comfortable speaking with me being there and speaking with her doctor. I pushed back hard and said I need proof and to hear directly from your doctor that you were pregg... Well, as you might expect she flipped out on me and screamed at me and cried and said she hates me and that I am a horrible person and all of these hurtful things - and that she will deal with this on her own. Isn't that quite convenient as well.

I guess at this point I have 2 things going for me... Most likely she is lying - which means that I do not have to worry about being responsible for a child; and if she is telling the truth then she says she's no longer pregg - so I don't have to worry about being responsible for a child.

The only lingering fear that I have is that she was being honest about being pregg, but is now lying about NOT being pregg... and that she actually has the child. Seems like there is an extremely low chance of that being the case at this point though.

I may decide to take a look at this "letter" and the blood tests that she says she has when she gets back from her trip tonight, but I'm expecting that when I say I want to come see them she will find a way to fight with me and tell me that I can't because I don't trust her, etc.

I guess that at this point I just have to get as far away as possible like everyone has suggested. Thanks very much for the help and advice and information. I have not been able to talk to anyone about this because I am so embarassed - so I really appreciate the online support that you've provided.

[tarajanes]

Well to me mate it seems convinent she has now bleed and tests show she is no longer pregnant,if she is claiming a miscarriage,then she can still have children later on,most of us on this forum have gone through these,and your uterus contracting is just expelling all that is left,you get this during a period also.im not sure about in the states,im from the uk we dont get given letters to confirm pregnancys,or blood tests,for blood tests we ring up about 3 to 4 days after.if she is fit enough to go on works trip,she not ill,not in that way anyway,maybe in the head.you really need say see ya,to her and move on.if she says she is no longer pregnant,then why do you feel you have to go to see a doctor.its over,if it ever started,ask her to show you the letters,but to be honest mate you have had a lucky escape,leg it.

[Hammaxster]

Here is the latest update... I didn't mention this before but she decided to go on her work trip this week despite all of the complications that she claims she is having from the double dose of EC. She now claims that she went to the Emergency Room today where they ran a blood test and she is no longer preg. She also said that her uterus is "still contracting" and that there is now very little chance that she will be able to ever have children. (Does that even make sense?)

How can the blood tests come back that quickly? I think that I've built enough of a case to know that this is all lies...

Although she still refuses to let me go to the doctor with her on Friday, she said that she has a letter from the doctor which says she is (was) pregg and a copy of the blood tests. Does anyone know if doctors (in the states) actually provide copies of the tests and letters confirming pregnancy?

It just seems like that could easily be fabricated... I'm very close to just telling her that she is never to contact me again and just walking away from this whole crazy situation.

That is the latest - I'm still going to call a doctor and discuss this with a professional since she won't let me go with her to get verification from hers.

[tarajanes]

Alaysha is right hpt will not show she is pregnant at only 2 weeks,unless she had already missed her period.another thing you say she had blood tests,was this sat ?doctors send the blood tests of to the lab,and with being the weekend she wouldnt have gotten her results till mon the early'ist.please let us know how you get on,and yeah look for another job mate.best of luck.

[Hammaxster]

She said that on Sat (after she got the blood test results, and after she did another blood test and got more confirmed results) she did a whole bunch of HPTs and they were all positive... Blood tests would show if she were 2 weeks preg, but HPT would not? Is that what you're saying?

We don't work in the same group, so I will initially make it clear to her that she is not allowed to contact me, then I will have her number blocked on my cell phone etc, and if she does anything "psycho" and I feel harassed or cornered I will think about speaking with my boss and possible restraining order.

She has a doctor's appt on Friday (supposedly), so for now I am playing along and being nice - but if she doesn't let me go to the doctor with her on Friday and get some proof that this is real, then I will cut all communication... I don't love my job anyway, so this is all the more reason to begin an aggressive job search as well.

I really just want this to go away and be done with so that I can get on with my life!!!

[alaysha]

*sorry HPT not BFP :)

[alaysha]

*sorry HPT not BFP :)

[alaysha]

*sorry HPT not BFP :)

[alaysha]

First of all she wouldn't have gotten a + test at only two weeks on a BFP since it usually detects at about 4 weeks. If I was you when all of this is over I would explain to my boss what is going on and also get a restraining order on her. Seems like she might do anything at this point.

[Hammaxster]

I forgot to mention that I also happen to work with this woman... which only makes this mess even more complicated and unavoidable.

Hopefully in the end this will turn out to be a valuable life lesson about being selective about who I choose to go to bed with, using proper protection, and not dating people at work.

I will keep everyone posted on how things progress... and what ends up happening. Thanks again to everyone and please pray for me and wish me luck.

[tarajanes]

I truley think she is telling you lies,and you would be surprised what lengths some women do to hold on to there men.im sure that would have been first thing she would have done,(tell you sat she was pregnant.)its only when you said your not interested that she informs you she is pregnant,um alarm bells,if she wants you in her life then she has to agree to you both visiting a doctor,explain if she doesnt do this then you are walking away.at least if you get to the doctors,thinks can be confirmed for you.but honestly i would walk away,she's hurting she was obviously very fond of you.but she will get over it,and if it turns out she is pregnant,then im sure you will be there for the baby.she is playing games with you.

[mamafessler]

Run away...run far far away.  You sound like a reasonable and intelligent young man, you should not be brought down by this womans neediness.  She needs professional help, or so it sounds, but it is not YOUR responsibility to make sure she gets it.  I would recommend counseling to her and tell her you need to move on.  And move quickly and then do NOT contact her.  Next thing she will be saying she has an STD just to get close to you.  <---I knew a girl that did that to a guy.  Said she had HIV and she didnt...screwed the guy up bad though.  Seriously get out of that situation.

[Hammaxster]

Oh, make no mistake about it - I will get out as soon as possible!!! I cannot wait to run away and never look back. This is absolutely insane and no matter what happens she and I will never be.

My only hang up is that I want to know the truth. I do not want to have to spend the rest of my life wondering if I am in fact responsible for taking a life; and if I just end all contact now I'll never know the truth and there will be a large part of me that will actually feel bad, because if she is being honest then I don't want to be "mean" to her while she is going through this...

God I am such a sucker... I want to be sensitive and be a good person through this - but I also don't want to be a fool and put myself through any unneccesary pain/suffering. It's a catch 22, because either way I'll prob never know the truth... Unless in 9 months she shows up with a little me - and that would be the worst outcome of all. At this point I don't think that is going to happen though, especially since her latest story is that she is no longer pregg; that she took a HPT (without me there) and it came back negative...