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Undiagnosed Excessive Gluey Saliva

I'm a 59 year old female in poor health since visiting central Mexico 11 months ago.  I live with a spit cup because my mouth is constantly producing large amounts of gluey, sticky, thick, bubbly, whitish to yellowish stuff instead of normal saliva.  NP said it was a sinus infection, but sinus meds made it worse.  GP said it was fungus, but Fluconazole just made my hair fall out and my lips peel off daily.  Saliva test for candida was negative.  ENT prescribed Nystatin oral, which caused rashes everywhere and did not help anything.  IM doctor said I was "more toxic than most people" and tried to sell me supplements including zeolite and colloidal silver.  I've tried Itraconazole and lots of OTC herbs.  Is this viral, fungal, bacterial, or something else?  Please help.
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Hi,
How are you?Are there other symptoms present?  Excessive saliva could be due to overactive salivary glands or because you're swallowing less often. It can also be a side effect of some medications or difficulty swallowing which is caused by muscle or nerve damage in the mouth or throat. Diagnosis of bacterial, fungal or viral infection will depend on the culture of a sample of the saliva. Check with your doctor or get another opinion for proper evaluation. Take care and do keep us posted.
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I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM

I've seen an ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICINE DOCTOR, NATUROPATH, ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE, NEUROLOGIST, GASTROENTEROLOGIST, INTERNAL MEDICINE, RHEUMATOLOGY., INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR.

I'VE HAD several supplements:  Zinc, Golden Seal (blood cleanser)6-N-1,SF-3,

        Nature Defense, Total micorchondria, Med Caps DPO, Cholacol, AF Beta Food,

        tons of liver detox and digestive detox

        MolyGolenum, Gastrofiber, SF722, THREELAC, antioxidant, burbur

        detoxification, samento, Alpha liopic, protein, amino acids,creatine,

        Acids, 2 colonic cleansing 6 foot baths that did not do anything For me.

        detoxification, probiotics, ZEOLITE DROPS/powder and tons of other

      pills also DR. SHULTZ #1 formula. and other Supplements etc.

December 2009 I'm feeling cold, heaviness, stingy, spitting up heavy, thick glue-like saliva also white cloudy stuff build up in my saliva and mucus and burning in the eyes. This is from my head to my feet literally.

        

                                            MY SYMPTOMS



My name is Mr. Tyrone Scott I have had this 6-8 years or more sickness going inside my system and body. I am stiff and hard as a rock and I burn all day long. When I wake up every morning from sleep I have whelps all over my body from the position where I had slept on ( imprints from the sheets). I NEED HELP PRETTY SOON . I AM 50 YEARS OLD AND HAS BEEN SEEN BY MANY DOCTORS THAT COULD NOT HELP ME. PLEASE RESPOND BACK. MY CELL  = 910-330-3796.home- 910-346-7710 WK -910-451-7290.
Wk- 910-451-7290. THERE IS SOME TYPE OF CHEMICAL OR SOLUTION INSIDE OF MY BODY IS MAKING ME STIFF AND HARD When I set down. MY WHOLE BODY FEELS TIGHT WHEN I SIT  ESPECIALLY MY  NECK, BACK, CHEST AND ABDOMINAL AREA.
I'M IN PAIN FROM STINGING 24 HOURS A DAY. I CAN'T GET ANY REST IT FEELS A THOUGH I HAVE A STRANGE CHEMICAL REACTION GOING ON INSIDE OF MY BODY. I HAVE TAKEN THE . EEG TEST, EMG TEST FOR NERVE S AND MUSCLES, MRI OF T-SPINE, BRAIN AND STOMACH, ULTRASOUND, SMALL BOWEL FOLLOW THROUGH, 2 CAT-SCANS, 2 ENDOSCOPY, 1 COLONOSCOPY, BUNCH OF BLOOD WORK BUT NO-ONE CAN SEEM TO FIND THE PROBLEM, I HAVE SEEN A PSYCHOLOGIST, PSYCHIATRY,  ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICINE DOCOR, SEVERAL HOLISTIC/ ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE AND STILL NO RESULTS. THEY THINK I HAD PARKINSON'S DISEASE at Duke but came back and said later after
2-3  months of seeing and treating me  3 Neurologists came inside at once there they decided that it wasn't Parkinson's Disease and that they said it was nothing neurological going on with me. I've also been
diagnosed with  IBS, MUSCLE CRAMPS, BLASTOCYSTOSIS, but out that I did not
have those diseases either: THEY THOUGH I MIGHT HAD STIFF MAN'S DISEASE, ETC. AND STILL I HURT THE SAME AND THE PROBLEM HAS BECAME WORSE. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU.  I HAVE 4 KIDS, MARRIED AND LIVE IN JACKSONVILLE, NC AND A 20 YEAR VETERAN FROM US NAVY AND HAS NOT BEEN EXPOSED TO ANY WAR FARE CHEMICALS.. I NEED YOUR HELP BAD AND QUICK. MY BLOOD WORK ALL IS NORMAL 98.6 TEMP. 128/72 BLOOD PRESSURE, GOOD PULSE BUT SOMETHING IS EATING THE INSIDES OF ME. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN A NEW HOME FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS, FRESH PAINT, NEW CARPET, ETC.  I CAN DO EXERCISES BUT WHEN I FINISH MY WHOLE BODY FEELS AS THOUGH I HAVE SPREAD THIS DISEASE AROUND INSIDE OF ME. I have also noted that my saliva is pretty thick and "sticky like glue." Maybe what's I have inside of me is of a clear, glazed, acrylic nature and that's why it don't show up on X-Ray . But I have been tested several times for heavy metal and it comes out negative. My forehead is always cold. My eyes burn all day long. My co-workers states that they smell a snuff like smell in my office and I can relate to that because that's the fume that I have been telling everyone about I smells. I'm eager to try your system. I Hope your system can find out what's going on inside of my body. It appears to me this all started years ago when I kept felling something burning my stomach in 1999.
My whole entire
body gets hard, heavy and tight.  I pray to "GOD" that you can help me. It
feels as though ever time that I sit I'm sitting on AIR BUBBLES and this sticky stuffs runs out my mouth because it disintegrate all over by body as I sit down Like it does when a kid is blowing bubbles  through a toy piece.
It feels soft and mushy between my thighs and buttock. If I stand up for a while this flows through my legs and make them tight and sticky. It appears to freeze up when I'm a sleep or don't move for a while but as soon as I move or wake up it melts and feel fizzy and fuzzy like and burns and spreads out bubbling all over and it has this odor in it. My face is always cold and fizzy, fuzzy and my chest is also tight and heavy. "IT'S NOT MUSCULAR RELATED, PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT. MY NEUROLOGIST FROM  JOHN HOPKINS CALLED ME  AND TOLD ME THAT IT WASN'T THAT (PARKINSON'S/DISEASE).  
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I HAVE THIS STRANGE FUNGUS, MOLD OR SOMETHING THAT'S EATING UP MY INSIDES AND  NEED TO COME OUT OF ME.


**** I FEEL SO HEAVY, HEAVY, HEAVY AND COLD FROM THIS STUFF NOT MY BODY BUT THIS STUFF IS COLD AND HEAVY INSIDE OF ME.

Here are some of the supplements I've been on:

I've taken in the past several supplements:  Zinc, Golden Seal (blood
cleanser) 6-N-1 ,
SF-3,
Nature Defense, Total micorchondria, Med Caps DPO, Cholacol, AF  Beta Food, tons of liver detox and digestive detox MolyGolenum, Gastrofiber, SF722, THREELAC, antioxidant, burbur detoxification, samento, Alpha liopic, protein, amino acids, creatine, Acids, 2 colonic cleansing 6 foot baths that did not do anything for me.
detoxification, probiotics, ZEOLITE DROPS/powder and tons of other pills and NAC, MUCINEX ECT.  

Supplements etc.

6 COLONIC CLEANING THAT BROUGHT OUT A LOT OF THICK MUCUS LIKE , JELLY LIKE, GLUE-LIKE STUFF.

When I drink or eat something cold / hot it melts this stuff on the inside of me. Then I start stinging and feeling like cold bubbles or suds all inside me. It's not just in my stomach it's all over my inside. I spit constantly sticky, white. Soft jelly-like glue -like stuff. When I cough my entire back and body gets tight. It burns my eyes and spurts out of my mouth and buttocks when I sit down and sticks to the back and buttock. In other words this has turned into a paste/ syrup and part of my system. I fizz all day long and soon as I drink or eat something cold or hot it melts this stuff and then gets hard and start bank fizzing in millions of tiny little bubbles THAT STICKS LIKE GLUE AND MAKES MY BODY REALLY COLD AND SMELLS. When I walk bare feet my feet sticks to the floor.

Cell- 910-330-3796
HOME E-MAIL IS ***@****
Home ph. # is - 910-346-7710

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You are the first person who has said they have the same gluey mucus problem.  Did you go to Mexico at any time before it started?  

US doctors do not seem to have any idea what to call this condition or what to do about it.  They just order tests.  I've switched from Fluconazole to Itraconazole as an anti-fungal.  At least Itraconazole does not seem to make my hair fall out as badly, though I have little left to lose.  Plain old mineral oil applied to lips several times a day helps lips.  Brushing teeth with baking soda, then washing the toothbrush with antibacterial soap and rinsing it with vinegar is much better than tea tree toothpaste, which was what was recommended before.  Using a tongue scraper as often as possible also helps, though it makes me gag and spit terribly while I do it.

A Chinese medicine advisor told me to drink cinnamon tea and use cinnamon spice.  Cinnamon tea and green tea seem to cut the mucus down a little.  As far as supplements, my most recent additions to the 37 or more I've tried are pau d'arco and olive leaf.  Although I still spit and gag constantly, sometimes to the point of being unable to breathe, after the first hour or so in the morning it seems to be reducing slightly.  Also, during the day (all day long) I suck and chew on pieces of licorice root.  I still swallow mucus, but it tastes better!  Licorice root is supposed to be a "mild anti-fungal."

If you have ANY information about whether this is viral, bacterial, or parasitic, please post a comment.  Also, if you find ANYTHING that helps, I'd love to know.  I'm going on two years now with this horrible, unknown disease.  I strongly suspect that it's viral and/or parasitic.  

A Mexican doctor said I have colitis, a kidney infection, monilia, an ear infection, and a viral infection.  He suggested Lidamidine, Ciprofloxacin, Itraconazole,  Cipro ear drops, and Acyclovir.  US doctors usually have no training in parasitology, and unless you have AIDS they don't know about viruses either.  I think we need to seek medical advice elsewhere.
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I have a crazy gum thing going on,its thick gluey sticky saliva,that is constantly in my mouth, its like when your mouth gets watery at times ,only mine are like this constantly they get so soft they go inbetween each tooth and my mouth waters and makes me chew my gums my tounge pushes the gums around swirly ,any of this sound fimilar?
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All pharmaceuticals have side-effects, short and long-term, and even can cause secondary illnesses from long-term use. What they don't tell you is that many symptoms are not listed and you have to tell your doctor to request them from the pharmaceutical company.  Even those that are are usually the more severe side-effects reported in trials or in practice - but again many side effects are not reported from practice after the drug has earned its approval from the FDA.  And also even many symptoms are not considered when reported by the patients in trials and practice, because they are just not considered to be symptoms, especially if you describe them as "bubbles" - those will definitely be considered out of context - the medical context defined by a consensus of doctors at the round table of medicine (just like the contents of the Bible was decided upon).

I've had those "bubble" effects and they too were discounted by my medical doctor, when I began to have the supposed acid-reflux.  Thank goodness I was just trying to rule out any serious disease, because I usually use natural medicine through natural practitioners to help any health condition, after a long illness I had that no MD could help - but was helped with natural medicine which can include chiropractic, or osteopathic manipulative therapy by an Osteopathic Doctor (DO) who specializes in OMT (the other DOs are just medical doctors as DOs).  Those are great with any nervous system problems not defined yet by medicine, as well as with balancing/stimulating the endocrine system.

Anyway they wanted to give me drugs (Proton Pump Inhibitors - they inhibit the production of stomach acid), but I already knew that they produce more problems like creating Osteoporosis (which I already have the beginning of ) as they inhibit your bones from absorbing calcium to create new bone and eventually degenerating the ability of your pancreas to produce enzymes to break down your food in the intestines, leading to eventual pancreatic cancer as well as liver problems and cancer there too.

With the bubble feelings inside me I also had loads of saliva-mucous which I didn’t have before, and I learned is your body’s attempt to protect mucous membranes – the acid reflux burning your esophagus and throat, even if you do not feel it doing so, as well as seeping into your lungs, which in my case cause me severe coughing bouts that induced hours of vomiting as well, and bladder incontinence (full release all day).  I eventually could not eat anything at all, even WATER, without inducing all those symptoms in a catastrophic way.  I could not afford even a natural doctor.  So I realized that it was my diet that for some reason was not working for me anymore (I believe it is the decades of constant and unrelieved stress of 7 years of sleep deprivation due to an autistic child plus marital problems, that shot my nervous system – responsible for all processes in body – and in turn shot my endocrine system (namely adrenals) which then disturbs all other organs and most obvious is the digestive system.  For there is a multitude of nerves running through your intestines, a group in particular referred to as the “abdominal brain” that has pathways directly to the brain carrying nutrients there thru the blood-brain barrier – more on that later – very important.  But also our foods are too processed namely Flour – big culprit of acid reflux and digestive problems as is ALL refined foods).

I especially noticed problems when I ate sugar, flour, white rice, and potatoes.  I tried at this point to eat veges and even those I could not eat, but I found that cooked fresh spinach soothed me and was able to hold down, and eventually to hold down water.  So I ate these for a month and one half, then tried steamed veges and water, then added raw salads, then more varied veges, then chicken but NO FRIED FOODS, NO POTATOES, NO FLOUR/BREADS, or WHITE RICE in anything.  I recovered completely, no more mucous, no more coughing or bladder incontinence – within 3 months.

What I feel is that your years of all those medications (Efanil is an antidepressant! messing around with your brain and nervous system – may be the culprit for your burning sensations – again not yet defined and approved by medicine) directed at your digestive system, have just screwed up your intestines and pancreas and in turn are messing now with your brain-nervous system.  Lets face it, our digestive system rules our life – we eat to keep our organs and cells functioning!  Research and you’ll find that if you prohibit acid (which is types of enzymes that break food down) from your stomach, then that unbroken down food is passed to your small intestine through the duodenum connection(reason for your ulsers), which then has to carry the weight of working harder along with the gullbladder (gallbladder) which adds bile as well.  At which point it sends signals to the pancreas/gallbladder to overproduce and release extra enzymes (acid - the one it was prohibited from releasing to the stomach) and bile.  Eventually your pancreas and or gallbladder becomes dysfunctional and cannot produce more enzymes to send to the intestines and these then overwork but cannot break down the food that comes in whole from the stomach, which ends up in all sorts of problems including that food in delivered undigested to your blood, going undigested to your liver, as well as putrifying and fermenting in your intestines producing and absorbing by-products from this (gases toxins) that should not be absorbed but instead expulsed through the colon, and eventually they get passed to the liver which also overworks until it cannot anymore.  The small intestine also passes this putrefied food to your large intestine, where the toxins are carried to the colon which re-absorbs it all into your blood – where it is distributed to your whole system and organs.  If you have problems with your duodenum you will have nutrient absorption problems which leads to many other illnesses and break downs in the body.

What they should have told you to do was to get on a strict diet of LIVE FOODS and Probiotics - NO REFINED FOODS, NO WHITE RICE, NO BREADS/FLOUR, NO JUNK FOODS WHATSOVER – ANYTHING that comes in a package is refined, even ALL FAST FOODS.  Also NO HYDROGENATED OILS – these are artificial, NO VEGETABLE OILS ON THE SHELVES – artificial!-  NO CORN OIL, NO CANOLA OIL, NO SAFFLOWER Oil, NO MARGARINE – only unsalted organic BUTTER and ORGANIC COLD-PRESSED OLIVE OIL on salads (salad dressings have the fake oils) with lemon. You’ll get used to it.
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Look up all your prescriptions on the internet for their “package inserts” where all side-effects are listed. Study those and  see if you are having similar or related reactions.  With your first one alone you can see them.  Are you not dumfounded with all the side-effects that are allowed and still the drug gets approved ???   If I caused those side-effects on my children, I’ll get arrested for abuse!  Your stomach and illnesses are obviously because of these secondary causes.  Your first cause for the ulsers you were trying to get rid of is because of the refined foods causing digestive dysfunction.  Refined foods wreck havoc on the stomach and digestive process.  Eventually you will also have diabetes.  Hippocrates  said “Let food be your medicine and medicine be your food” – so what the hell happened?!!
You may need to do proper cleansings on a long term basis with the years of drugs you’ve been pumping into your system – but the body does HEAL itself, otherwise it would not be in constant repair or reproduce its organs as it does.  Have perseverance and patience.  Find a Naturopathic Physician – look that org up.  They are best prepared to guide you with the proper combinations of supplements.  I would also go to a holistic chiropractor who uses Standard Process glandular extracts (look one up at standardprocess  website for your state – put different zipcodes to find nearest).  ALSo you must read Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, MD, neurologist and brain surgeon’s book “Gut and Psychology Syndrome” and also her website.  She gives an excellent Diet to HEAL YOUR DIGESTIVE SYSTEM – she is curing many mental illnesses with it – remember….abdominal brain.  You want to live to enjoy your grandchildren!  There’s also much info at Jon Barron as well as Natural News.  Lot’s of helpful info to make you understand natural foods and body. DO THAT – GOOD LUCK!   I came back from the Living Dead with it!!

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