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The way I see it, he's avoiding a divorce because that comes with lawyer's fees, child support for more than one child, and possible alimony. It has nothing to do with him fearing he'll never see his kids again. It's the money he'll have to spend.
So why divorce, especially when he's got you on the side to give him the physical and emotional attention he wants whenever he wants it?
In my humble opinion: what a selfish, conniving, unfaithful jerk.
Like mayflowers said, he has a serious character flaw. Why would you find that acceptable in a man?
And mayflowers is right...if he's cheating on her...if he was to marry you he would start cheating on you. It happens over and over again.
Yes, you are crazy. This guy says he is going to stick with the 6 month plan to work on his marriage. This is BS, he doesn't sound like he is working too hard if he is having sex with other women. He has probaly just started screwing around with someone else also. This will give him time to decide who he wants to have sex with. If you told him that you are willing to wait till hell freezes over, why should he worry about leaving his wife? When are women going to wake up and realize that married men use them as free prostitutes? I bet he doesn't have to spend much taking you out and sex probaly has to be quick and easy because there isn't much time.
How long has he been married?
Please don't tell me that you are his first fling.
2. I agree with Jo- find a single man! There are plenty out there, you don't need to be screwing around with someone who is married and kids. It says equal amounts of your character and his - or lack thereof.
3. Yes you are crazy thinking he is going to leave. He says he wants a 6 month break but he is still texting you while "trying to work it out with his wife."
4. He is not your soul mate- he is someone else's. The woman he is married to.
I pray that you continue to have the strength to stay away from him. In the future make sure the men you see are really single not just on a break from their wives. Make sure they are truly divorced or have never been married in the first place.
I worry about you and the pain you are bringing into your life and I pray that you can make better choices in the future!
Please, please, please don't have any contact with him again. No matter how much he begs via text messages (I'd change my phone number) or says it's just for one final good-bye. Don't tell him you're seeing someone else since you know that will make him pursue you.
You are doing well. It's clear you are hurting, but you would be hurting far worse down the road if you were to continue the affair.
All the best to you.
I finally realized it doesn't matter if he loves me or not. It's about me. I have COMPLETE CONTROL over my own life. I have to love myself more and realize I can be with someone who can be wholly committed to my happiness. Don't get caught up in figuring out what he's going to do, why he's going to do it or not, if he's going to leave, etc. You will find out eventually that you just spent so much time out of YOUR life wondering about whether someone else will affect it. He may be mulling over these things as much as you, but when he's mulling over whether to leave...while he might be distraught over the decision....he still has the luxury of having the control over what he wants. You're letting him, then, have control over what you get. Don't let this happen.
The only one who can affect your life is you. Walk away gracefully. You can still chat and miss one another. Go out and live your life and find someone new. Stay positive about each other, and maybe down the road, you'll both be single at the same time and still want to be with one another. In the meantime, get back in control. I promise you won't regret it. I'm still very sad about having to leave my relationship and will be for some time because I love him very much and can't imagine loving anyone else as much, but I'm willing to bet on me. If you can't bet on yourself being able to get through and find a new love, no one else will. If I have to be single forever, at least I will be in control over my own destiny and will never be able to complain that my lot was because he didn't do what he said he would. Good luck! You can do it!
The karma bus hit me full force and I am endlessly sorry for the pain and suffering I caused his former wife. She did not deserve that and I would apologize to her if she wasn't deceased. I did cheat her by stealing what was hers - his love, energy, time and after nearly two years as "friends", sexual attention as well.
Ladies, you are 100% right - women need to stick together and always, always maintain: MARRIED MEN ARE OFF-LIMITS. PERIOD.
Congratulations, wannabefree330 - stay strong and keep the faith. As momagain59 said, the man you deserve WILL come along!
So, ditching him is the best decision you could've made, he doesn't want to give himself to you and leave her, so don't give yourself to him. Have the willingness to see he has treated you as his bit on the side, before you consider him again. Because he hasn't created this affair to be with you, and start a future with you, has he?
I think this whole affair should've only happened if his marriage was over, eg, preparring for divorce/ going through divorce etc, knowing maybe you would have had a future together then, knowing his realtionship with his wife had come to an end.
Also, before getting involved with him you should've considered whether him having children was going to be a problem for you and / or him, and really worth you getting involved with this guy for - ie. someone who has a full-blown family - wife and kids, so is unlikey to be compatable with as a partner for life.......
And so asked yourself if this, realistically, on the basis of everything, would ever materialise.
If you knew he was unsure about leaving his wife, why allow yourself to get attatched to a man in that situation, and so declare you will always be waiting for a man who is unavailable. If he was going through a divorce then that would illustrate the marriage had collapsed and so it wouldn't have been better for you to see a future.
It seems his wife is his prority, always has been, that is clear. He was not that unhappy, or he wouldn't have given it another shot with her. So, it's difficult to trust him when he talks about being unhappy in his marriage as his justification for having an affair.
You'll do better without him. He's been stringing you along, and just like many women in love, you are blind to it. You didn't see what he's been doing.
!!!****It's nice to hear you've realised you can do better and have a man that adores you and you alone****!!!
Well done to you and Best wishes !!
Kate
I had the same situation in my life, the man said to me; I am divorced from my second wife, then turned out he has a third one now on. I was shocked by the news since he was not at all my best choice around, but he is pretty charming guy, so he knew how to hit my knees, back then I struggled to make him a space in my life, since he was interesting to me, until found out he is actually married for 3rd time, now I am "friends" with him due some business issues, I try to never call him. in my life he is not my best choice, so that's the thing, regardless how much we can talk or meet the "us" situation is completely a no happening.So having this clear to me there is no much doubting around it...do you know what I mean?..
I think what I am trying to say is it is really up to YOu to define the situation with him.
Plus having a man like this once in your life can give you apretty good idea how a man who really care for you is...and trust me there is a sweeter taste in the mouth when the man only have eyes and words for you. Hope you are now living a different life experience!.
Being a mistress is a painfully sad and lonely life.
But, it's far, far worse for the man's wife... especially, if she's
aware of the adultry... there are no winners... everyone loses!
First off Do not listen to anyone but yourself and your heart.... You will have women tell you its ok, no its wrong, your horrible, but only YOU are going through this...
We dated in 6th grade lost contact and he recently moved back home, he found me and at first we were JUST friends, I knew he was married and had a 2 year old with his wife... I told myslef I would Never have a relationship with him while he was married because I know its wrong. Well guess what? I lied to myself. We are SoulMates.....................
Its hard Im not going to lie... We talk/text every day and He's their for the kid because he also to cant live w/o his daughter... I told him to stop telling me he would get divorced and leave her cuz lets face it, actions speak much louder than words!!!!!
So i date other people and carry on our relationship, I only see him twice a month so it is was it is..... DO Not let anyone judge you cuz it can eat you alive!
Sorry by the way that post was meant for "SCANTY"
now as far as you being crazy. yes. how many times do you hear about married men saying...i'll leave my wife and kids. i promise. i'm so unhappy with her/them? all the time. do they ever leave? 99% of the time....no they don't. you could just be an easy piece on the side for him. he might just be bored with his sex life knows he can just string you along for a while and when he's bored with you (which seems like he's starting to since he's giving you only 6 more months) he'll drop you like a sack of hot potatoes and move on to the next easy one. good luck with it.
I take pity on women who have to cheat with married men...especially those who do it relentlessly...they definitely have serious issues.....what a horrible way to live a life, knowing that you are destroying others....revenge belongs to God....not me.
I guess you could be glad that it wasn't 5 years, or 10 years, or whatever, but this is just pathetic. Walk away from this now. If you can't do it alone, get a therapist to help extract you from this sad situation - which will only turn out badly for you. What a shame.
I have been reading all the advice about being involved with a married man or the mistress is a home wrecker and ****, but what about those who get involved with a married man and don’t know he is married?
That situation happened to me and I hadn’t a clue he was married and I was with him 2 years, if it had not been for friends reunited I would never of know either, when I did find out you can imagine how I felt and to add to the heartache I had a call from his wife informing me she knew from day one about us as she hacked into his email account and kept tags on us that way but yet did nothing but sit back for some reason which I will never get answers, for the last 9 months my life has been tuned upside down and trying to move on which is very hard when you get calls of him while he is in Iraq serving for 4 months trying to make amends, little does he know when I did cut ties with him I was also pregnant and I have just had my first child Archie which he knows nothing about and never will.
The moral of the story is from my experience those married men who play away will always play away as a leopard never changes it spots and am thankful I had the courage to walk away with some self dignity and don’t have to put up with the mental head games is he or isn’t he cheating on me again.
Tiggs :)
Shame on him, shame on all men and women who play with married partners, or who are married and cheat.
Lets hear it for people who have enough respect for themselves and others to walk away from these manipulators!!!!!!
YAY YOU!!!!!!!~
Hi mami1323
Thanks for your posting and questions, no I dint have any clue he was married and that’s why I was so stunned when found out as I had married guys hit on me in the past and can spot a mile but was properly fooled this time!
Seems how he got away with it was, he is in the Uk Army and was posted 30 mins away from me, I saw him couple times in the week and spent all weekend’s or most with him either at my house or we went away, we had every day contact at different times of the day or evenings if we didn’t see each other, he asked me to marry him about 13 months into our relenship, however to cut a very long story down, it turns out his wife of 4 years is also in the UK Army but based about hour and half away from him and training to be a nurse, she was living in nurse quarters there and he was in there married quarters on his post, so she would go down to him for her 2 days off a week to see him and then go back to her base for the rest of the time, so he managed to keep us both happy and have contact with us both, yes he did answer his phone calls at times or leave it in the car.
Him and his wife don’t have any children, i believe she has fertility issues as I once used too, so I can see how he got away with it, she said they went away a lot on holidays which I was told he was on exercise with work and in his job you wouldn’t think any less, he used to call me some times from over seas or send me flowers as well!
Don’t get me wrong it was not all happy, he was a typical male and if didn’t get his way he would sulk or mental play head game with me, I used to make excuses for him to my girlfriends when we talked because I loved him and I don’t fall in love very easily nor do I need a man in my life for the sake of being alone, we were well matched mentally and sexually and I have never experienced love and hate in a relenship like I did with him before, sounds corny but true, what I find and still can not get my head around it is the fact his wife knew from the start to finish that we were involved deeply, she told me he used to carry my picture in his wallet as she looked, she got my numbers of his phone and used to call them which thinking back now I just thought it was a wrong number calling me, I fell pregnant the first time but miscarried at 5 months, then again 3 months and again she saw all my scans via email I would send to him if he couldn’t make my appointments, the list goes on and when I found out all this I felt robbed of my privacy, it has took me a lot of courage and strength to get in a better place now then I was back last June /July and of course with having my son recently I have moments when looking at my son who is the double of him but I did get the better end of the deal and my life wouldn’t be content and happy if he knew about his son, as harsh as it sounds I know I made the right choice for us both and more so when found out recently he is playing away again but this time on his door step since he is now living with his wife on her base, so she might of got rid of me but for sure my place has been taken and she has the mental torture yet again he’s cheating and always will but I have no empathy for her what so ever .
Pheww sorry so long but hopes it answers some of your questions. x
Have you ever thought how his wife feels though? Maybe she had her reasons for not saying anything to him or you, like low self esteem. I think it's strange that you say you have no empathy for her. Was she nasty on the phone when you spoke? How did she handle it?
Anyhow, you're in a better place now, and it sounds like you're much better off without him in your life.
Thanks for your comments, your right I am in a much better place now and my son completes my happiness, as for the wife who choose to stay quite knowing her husband was with myself and others,is it my fault she maybe has low esteem due to the fact her husband will never be faithful…nooo!
If she chooses to stay with him knowing truly what he is like then that is down to her I can truly understand how she feels as he cheated on me which left me hurt and low esteem too and he has his ways to get back in the good books which always worked because I loved him very much, but I walked away from him for my own sanity and knew he will never change which would always hurt me when I found out about the other woman and it was very very hard to do but I did it and I made the right choice, in my view each to there own on how or what makes them happy.
Tiggy :)