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Are you in the U.S.? Hopefully, you have access to abortion where you live. If you opt for abortion, do it as soon as you possibly can - the Supreme Court just ruled that mid-term abortions are illegal even if the health of the mother is at risk. Doctors who perform these procedures will be jailed. (Yes, it's an abominable ruling--the judiciary is essentially praticing medicine from the bench.) But first-term abortions are still legal in many areas of the country.
So if she is pregnant, she needs to make a fairly quick decision about whether to keep the baby or not. You probably are aware that keeping this kid will change your life pretty much forever, and most teenagers are just not emotionally ready to handle raising a child. I opt for abortion for teens.
Good luck to you.
how many days late should she be before its serious time to get a test??
If she's not regular then she may not be due at all for her period, but you could still test with a grocery store test to set your minds at ease.
My experience - once you test, your period starts within the hour.
we talked about it
and shes keeping it because she says her mind will be messed up if she aborted it.
but i dont want a baby now
so even if she does have a test
shes keeping it
i dont know what to do
please help me
If I could go buy you a test right now I'd do it - that's what you need to set your minds at ease.
Prayers this works out for you.
i have no one else to turn to
thank you all so much
xxx
Her not wanting to abort is really a drag, liam. I feel for you. Is there a trusted adult she can discuss this with? Because once she has that kid, she's putting huge - and I mean huge - limitations on her life choices (and yours), both socially and economically. This is not "best interests of the child," in my book. I hope someone can help her sort out the different perspectives and realities of having a child at such a young age.
I still favor abortion in this situation. But holy mother of dog, don't let her wait until the second term to make this decision. (The Supreme Court already made it for her). She needs to talk to a trusted adult, if possible.
Did she have plans for college? What were her career choices? Her plans? Because her plans for her future will be forever changed if she decides to become a mother.
As an aside, liam, if you don't know how to properly put on a condom, start practicing - on yourself! Planned Parenthood has a decent website (with pics!) with instructions on condom use.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/birth-control-pregnancy/birth-control/condom.htm
i dont think its a good idea for us to be judgemental, but in the same breath i couldnt bite my tongue on this one, sorry ,it is soooo wrong to say that teens should get abortions if they become pregnant, shame on you
however my question was i dont know if its natural or not for her to be late after having sex or if she is pregneant
i dont know :(
You may be "tay's" mommy, but you are certainly not mine, and the patronizing attitude really isn't necessary. It also makes you appear quite ridiculous.
I never suggested that this young woman be "forced" to have an abortion. What I support is this girl being told what every option is for her, if in fact she is pregnant. That is why I recommended she speak to a trusted adult about the situation.
I'm not aware of any studies indicating that abortion causes "devastating effects" for women in later life. I'm sure there are anecdotal cases of this, just as there are anecdotal cases of women feeling great relief at having an abortion. BearHitch, please provide those studies if you have access to them.
Abortion is one of the safest medical procedures, and studies have consistently borne this out. Legal abortions are ten times safer than childbirth. Hofferth & Reid in 2002 found that teens who become parents are at higher risk of social and economic disadvantages throughout their lives than women who delay childbearing. So I would argue that becoming a parent as a teenager could have "devastating effects" on this young woman because she will be less likely to graduate from high school and more likely to be poor than if she had delayed childbirth until later. I would only add that ACCESS to abortion is essential to the economic well-being of women and girls, and it is important that women have the ability to control their reproductive lives, and that would include access to abortion.
As far as this forum getting more "liberal," I see that as a good thing. This forum is about relationships, and reactionary conservative attitudes about relationships, in Western society at least, have had devastating effects on women, children, and relationships in general, both socially and economically.
I find it interesting that it is generally conservatives (the "less" liberal among you) who favor cutbacks in social services, including cuts in public health clinics, cuts in family and food aid benefits, and cuts in jobs programs and public school funding, yet continue to insist that abortion not be an option. This clearly speaks to the importance of the "fetus" and not the child once it is born. How is that in the "best interests of the child?" I for one would like to know how those of you who support such policies reconcile this obvious disconnect between wanting what's best for the child but then denying basic services to economically disadvantaged women who you would also "insist" not have an abortion. Any takers on that one, folks?
The more choices a woman has to control her own body and her own reproductive health, the greater the opportunities for her economically, and socially. I stand by my opinion that this young woman requires counseling from a trusted adult who can lay out for her ALL of her options, including abortion, adoption, or deciding to become a teen parent, with all that that would entail for her, and what it would mean for her future.
JaybusHChrist, you better hope she's just late.
Becoming a parent as a teenager will not have the devastating effects that an abortion will. It confuses me when there is this huge push that women should have the right to do whatever they want to their bodies and that they should have access to something that will only harm them more than carrying a baby to term. Why not consider adoption? There are many women in the United States who are unable to have children- why not give them a chance at a family? Why kill an innocent child? If teens are going to have premarital sex, they should be ready to take on the results of what happens sometimes- and that is pregnancy! Why is it no longer acceptable to learn from the things that we do? I used to work in a crisis pregnancy center, and I never heard a client tell me she regretted carrying her baby- no matter what her age was.
Why do you lump all of these "conservatives" into one group and say we all stand for the same thing? What a generalization! I will remove myself from the group and say that I support most social services, and in fact am in involved in delivering most of those services to those in need. And I can still say that abortion is not in the best interest of the child in the womb or outside.
And I too will stand by the opinion above and my opinion that while she should talk to a trusted adult she knows, she should talk to someone who KNOWS all of the options in full- including the effects of an abortion- and not someone at planned parenthood who will push them right in and assure them- as you said, that it will not devastate her.
http://www.abortionfacts.com/reardon/after_effects_of_abortion.asp
http://www.troubledwith.com/ParentingTeens/A000000640.cfm?topic=parenting%20teens%3a%20crisis%20pregnancy
http://www.afterabortion.org/
http://www.epigee.org/pregnancy/psychological.html
Let me know if you would like more.
me asking whether its natural or not is a question becuase i do not know.
im sorry if that offends you
and i do realise that it will affect my entire life.
i do know how to use a condom so stop sayin that for starters
i jsut want to know if being a few days late after sex is natural or not.
i dont care for your arguments im in need of advice and if u want to argue about abortion start another forum becuase im on here for help not arguing.
You are certainly entitled to your opinions, BearHitch, and it looks like it's always just the two of us in a discussion : ) but what I want to know is why you would discount the decision a woman makes to HAVE an abortion. If in fact a woman goes to one of these "counseling" centers and is told what her options are, and she still decides to have an abortion, why would you possibly discount that? In essence, you are saying that a woman really can't make her own decisions about her. own. body.
That's the problem I run up against with the anti-choice crowd. There are probably millions of women whose lives were saved, psychologically, economically and socially, by having an abortion. But you appear to be telling me that they are extremely f*cked up even though they say otherwise?
The other HUGE issue I have is that you people want to fight to abolish abortion. (I'm talking about the States, here, not some other country.) If you are against abortion, then don't have one! But why do you insist on taking away the option of abortion for women who DO want it?
And BTW, I am one of those women who had an abortion and was not "psychologically or emotionally damaged" by the experience. I was in law school at the time, and there was no way I was going to have it. It was a huge relief for me, and I am fortunate that I live in a state where abortion is still safe and legal. Because, as we all know, the anti-choice crowd is making that less and less possible.
I guess my biggest issue is, if you are "against" abortion, don't have one! But stop trying to legislate it out of existence for others. You folks are really not about "live and let live, though."
its none of my business if they choose to abort, but i dont think people should be telling this impressionable boy that abortion is right for teens, what if he takes your advise and goes on to tell her he wants her to abort? i think they should definatly talk to an adult to dicuss their options, because like i said before, the last thing a scared pregnant teenage girl needs is her boyfriend comming to her saying that her life i going to be over, and she should abort,
When teenagers become parents, studies have shown that they are significantly compromised in terms of their future economic earning potential. Fewer teenage parents graduate from high school and attend college. More teenage parents than any other age group of parents live in poverty. Male teens generally aren't economically advantaged enough to provide child support, so child support payments are iffy at best in these situations. We already live in a society that is cutting back on social programs for the poor and economically disadvantaged. How would becoming a parent IMPROVE this girl's economic situation, in her present and in her future? How would it do that? And, in turn, how would it be an advantage for the child?
Again, I ask you, how is that in the best interests of the child? I see "best interests of the fetus" all over this forum, but I sure as sh*t am not seeing any arguments about the advantages of a teenage mother becoming a parent. But you tell me - do you think liam is going to come through as a source of child support for this girl? This kid can barely spell his way through an on-line message forum in complete sentences. His level of emotional maturity about this seems lacking. He sounds defensive and insecure and appears unable to grasp the enormity of the situation he may be thrown into, including his responsibilities as an economic provider for this child. And, as I stated, studies have shown repeatedly that teenage parents are poor providers of child support, clearly putting the mother and her child at an economic disadvantage.
"i dont think people should be telling this impressionable boy that abortion is right for teens, what if he takes your advise(sic) and goes on to tell her he wants her to abort? i think they should definatly(sic) talk to an adult to dicuss their options, because like i said before, the last thing a scared pregnant teenage girl needs is her boyfriend comming(sic) to her saying that her life is going to be over, and she should abort. . ."
Yes, that is your opinion. Mine is that a scared impressionable pregnant young girl needs to know every option available to her, including abortion. The last thing she needs is somebody telling her that her life will be peaches and cream if she decides to have a child and that there. is. no. alternative.
Liam, a girls period could be late for a number of reasons. She is still young and her body is still going through changes. It could be late because she is very stressed regarding possibly being pregnant, it could be late because of hormonal changes during puberty. Is she always regular with her cycle? At 15 is she aware of how many days her cycle is? Maybe she didn't ovulate this month, than she wouldn't get her period. If she's a few days late go get a pregnancy test and have her take it. This way you won't have to keep guessing. It's not that expensive and it only takes a minute or so to find the anwer.
and yeh she is regular usually and can predict when its coming but this month she has had alot of stress not jsut from this but other stuff. her parents are constantly arguing and she has to find a job soon becuase shes a school drop out. do not take that the wrong way though. she had to drop out of school because of anxiety issues not becuase of lazyness.
i keep telling myself that it is stress thats causing the lateness but deep down i have a huge fear she is pregneant.
im not an irrespoinsible teen if thats what anyones thinking jsut the average teenager gettin Bs and As at school nothing out of the ordinary.
and if she is still not on her period by saturday (when i next see her) were going out to buy a test so we know what position we are in and what move to make next
Since her period is already late, have you gone to check out some pregnancy tests?
as she lives a couple of miles away
and i can only go there friday nights/saturdays
so im going saturday with her and gettin one then
i understand you cant give a yes or no answer i jsut wanted to know if it is natural or if she most likely is pregneant, but i suppose u cant say unless u know what shes like and stuff.
It sounds like you have a plan for getting to the next step of this situation (good!). Don't feel targetted by all the discussion on this thread - there are many strong feelings for AND against abortion. Teen pregnancy is one topic that certainly fuels this debate.
I agree with some previous poster that don't think about these things too much - not until you know she is pregnant. Otherwise you will be pulling out your hair for the next few days. If you can be relatively calm about this, you'll be better off to make smarter decisions.
How is your girlfriend feeling about all of this?
You don't sound irresponsible Liam, you just sound young. We are not placing judgement against you as a person, we just want you to know that sex is something that feels really good but has a lot of consequences attached to it. Getting pregnant by accident at age 15 is 100 times worse than getting pregnant at age 26 or older. Either way if you are not ready for a pregnancy it could be hard to handle no matter what age you are. We just want you to be safe and not have to experience something like this again until you're ready as an adult.
and uspet
she wants to start her period now
i think the stress of having to be on it might be making it prolong
but thats based on the fact that stress can prolong it
all we want is for her to start and know she isnt
and about yur comment about pulling yur hair out
its already happening im afraid
btw before u mention if u were going to mention anything else about American law changing and stuff i would like to say i live in the UK jsut north of london so its not gona help me im afraid
i thank you for your comment
and yeh, iv already asked her about gettin a test before i get there so we can know sooner but she has no money and her parents wont give her any coz they'll ask why
so sorry about that
Consider yourself lucky. Being a teenage parent in Amerika is the worst possible situation you could find yourself in.
but i dont want to be a teenage parent anyway
well thanks everyone for you help to this stage and i will definately post on here the results from the test and hopefully wont ask for anymore help
thanks so much for your help
and lets hope wen i next inform u on something its all clear and good
how do i find out where the nearest clinic thing is?
Now that's a family planning policy I can get behind. Thanks for posting this, marra. Good luck to you and your girlfriend, Lima.
remember her body experiensed something new, so dont worry!!
we took the test.
shes not pregneant.
thnkgod
and thankyou to everyone for your help
i hope to never have to do this again but if i did this is my first port of call.
thankyou to everyone for your help and everything now has been resolved
I hope this hasn't ruined your relationship with your girlfriend. There scares happen, no matter how old you are or where you are in life. A little bit of reading never hurts, so take the time to read up on birth control. Tell your girlfriend to think about going on the pill. Last thought: don't let this ruin sex for you (especially your girlfriend). Be responsible with your bodies, and this shouldn't happen again :) Glad to hear it turned out okay.