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Opinions on the state of women and relationships..
i just want opinion on the state of women and relationships..
I guess I'm asking what is the role of a woman now a days?
Everyone seems to see things differently because of feminism, race, culture and religion.
I was just wondering what all of you think?
What are the roles of each sex?
I guess I'm asking what is the role of a woman now a days?
Everyone seems to see things differently because of feminism, race, culture and religion.
I was just wondering what all of you think?
What are the roles of each sex?
No comments from any men yet? Let me be the first!
Firstly let me say that I largely agree with the comments above.
I firmly believe in equality of opportunity, mutual respect, and that neither men nor women should seek to control each other.
I believe that women and men are different, mentally as well as physically. All activities and careers etc. should be open to both, but it's daft to deny that there are some that are better suited or more appealing to men, others that naturally attract women more, and that it's not just because of people subscribing to "traditional roles".
I also believe that choosing to raise your children yourself, and not to work while you have young children, is a valid choice for women that should be respected and applauded just as much as those who concentrate on their careers. Full respect for megochick on that one. In fact I'm envious, as it's an option that is not really available to men - when babies are young we lack the basic biological equipment (breasts); when children are older there's no practical impediment but full-time child rearing is still not seen as a socially acceptable choice for a dad.
Don't get me wrong here, I also respect and encourage career women - my sister has a pretty high-flying career and took 6 months off after birth before returning to full-time work and employing a nanny, and that's a perfectly good choice. I just think it's a shame that feminism has promoted following a career so hard as being the only option that full-time mothers are not given the respect and honour they deserve these days.
Within a relationship there should be equality and mutual respect, mutual encouragement, mutual trust, mutual support for each others choices and desires. That doesn't mean each partner has to be identical, that it's essential that each partner does 50% of the housework or brings in 50% of the income, there's room for a division of labour.
There are some insolvable problems in this. There's frequently a fuss made in the UK about the low proportion of female politicians, and senior management in large companies; but these career paths are much harder to tread if you also want to dedicate any time and effort to family, and that's something more men are prepared to sacrifice than women; if women postpone career, inevitably they will find themselves a decade behind the men they are competing with when they return. It also seems like this is related to the different mental approaches of the sexes - men are, on average, more risk-taking than women (and of course there are plenty of exceptions in both directions), and while some men may be destroyed by this, it will help others climb higher up their chosen ladder.
Okay, enough of an essay, I'll shut up now!!
Firstly let me say that I largely agree with the comments above.
I firmly believe in equality of opportunity, mutual respect, and that neither men nor women should seek to control each other.
I believe that women and men are different, mentally as well as physically. All activities and careers etc. should be open to both, but it's daft to deny that there are some that are better suited or more appealing to men, others that naturally attract women more, and that it's not just because of people subscribing to "traditional roles".
I also believe that choosing to raise your children yourself, and not to work while you have young children, is a valid choice for women that should be respected and applauded just as much as those who concentrate on their careers. Full respect for megochick on that one. In fact I'm envious, as it's an option that is not really available to men - when babies are young we lack the basic biological equipment (breasts); when children are older there's no practical impediment but full-time child rearing is still not seen as a socially acceptable choice for a dad.
Don't get me wrong here, I also respect and encourage career women - my sister has a pretty high-flying career and took 6 months off after birth before returning to full-time work and employing a nanny, and that's a perfectly good choice. I just think it's a shame that feminism has promoted following a career so hard as being the only option that full-time mothers are not given the respect and honour they deserve these days.
Within a relationship there should be equality and mutual respect, mutual encouragement, mutual trust, mutual support for each others choices and desires. That doesn't mean each partner has to be identical, that it's essential that each partner does 50% of the housework or brings in 50% of the income, there's room for a division of labour.
There are some insolvable problems in this. There's frequently a fuss made in the UK about the low proportion of female politicians, and senior management in large companies; but these career paths are much harder to tread if you also want to dedicate any time and effort to family, and that's something more men are prepared to sacrifice than women; if women postpone career, inevitably they will find themselves a decade behind the men they are competing with when they return. It also seems like this is related to the different mental approaches of the sexes - men are, on average, more risk-taking than women (and of course there are plenty of exceptions in both directions), and while some men may be destroyed by this, it will help others climb higher up their chosen ladder.
Okay, enough of an essay, I'll shut up now!!
Everyone thinks differently because everyone IS different(doubt that helps you hehe)
My current role in the relationship is a stay at home mom. I take care of the kids/household duties and my husband works and makes money and takes care of the financial aspect. Same as centuries ago lol
Me personally, I wanted to be a stay at home mom because my mother raised us by herself and had two jobs to support us until i was 13 and yes she spent time with us and cared for us and loved us, but we were either in school or with babysitters when she was working and I personally wanted to be home with my kids and wanted to be able to know that if they ever needed me at any time, i would be able to be right there in a seconds notice. If my background had been different, who knows what my role would be now? I may have been a working mom, which I don't see any problem with, it just wasn't right for me when I first had my son. But now I'm planning on rejoining the work force in a while(maybe just part time, haven't decided yet) and it's just so great that i even have that option. I can go to work, I can stay home, i can do both part time i guess lol. And then both my husbands and my roles will be changed as either one of us chooses to do something different.
And i'm going on and on here and I don't even remember the point I was going to or trying to make haha But anyways my role is the same as woman for centuries. lol
My current role in the relationship is a stay at home mom. I take care of the kids/household duties and my husband works and makes money and takes care of the financial aspect. Same as centuries ago lol
Me personally, I wanted to be a stay at home mom because my mother raised us by herself and had two jobs to support us until i was 13 and yes she spent time with us and cared for us and loved us, but we were either in school or with babysitters when she was working and I personally wanted to be home with my kids and wanted to be able to know that if they ever needed me at any time, i would be able to be right there in a seconds notice. If my background had been different, who knows what my role would be now? I may have been a working mom, which I don't see any problem with, it just wasn't right for me when I first had my son. But now I'm planning on rejoining the work force in a while(maybe just part time, haven't decided yet) and it's just so great that i even have that option. I can go to work, I can stay home, i can do both part time i guess lol. And then both my husbands and my roles will be changed as either one of us chooses to do something different.
And i'm going on and on here and I don't even remember the point I was going to or trying to make haha But anyways my role is the same as woman for centuries. lol
your posts were very interesting, to me, and i just wonder if you would mind reading my new journal and making a comment, if you would like to share these views jo
my new post is Hopes ans Dreams
my new post is Hopes ans Dreams
Although I won't get into a relgious debate with anyone, whether they are religious or not, time's have changed since biblical times,because life is constantly changing. Could you imagine if there was not change, but the number one best selling book in the history of the world is still the book written thru the holy spirit thru the prophets by God 2000 yrs. ago, the bible.
p.s. I think your a smart girl with good questions and topic for discussions :)
p.s. I think your a smart girl with good questions and topic for discussions :)
We all need good examples and role models to continue to inspire up to be good human beings. I'm blessed to have role models right in life life right now. My father and fiance who are both males were and are there for me and my family during the darkest days (years) of my life recent death of my mother. Life is a journey and I hope that I am a positive role model now and to future generations.
That all sounds well and good but, in this day and age any woman would be foolish to lean on a man financially for all those reasons I previously stated. Relationships are not lasting and when the dust settles, if your relationship does not work, who provides the rent and the light bill? The world is different, welfare is overloaded with mothers and their children not being "protected and cared for", and alot of the time it is the mothers decision to leave! The system is overun with the whys you cannot depend on a man to be protector and provider. Guys dont even think they should go it alone anymore. Women have gotten so smart they have screwed themselves! Guys think if women wanna be so independent, they can help pay the bills! Just the times we live in,
There's no paper, I'm just curious.
Anyways, I definitely think us women need to revaluate what it is we are fighting for. In past era’s it made sense to take a stance on reproductive rights, the right to vote and equality in the workforce (something we have yet to obtain), but as far as fighting for a “man’s role”, we need to stop be being to so stubborn and hard-headed and let a man be a man. I don’t judge the new millennium and the switching of the roles if that’s naturally how your family works. For example, stay home dads or career bound women. Sometimes a fresh perspective is more amicable. However, I do think that women forget it is in a man’s nature to provide and protect. Why not embrace it?
I have no problem being independent. In fact, I think its necessary to know you’re able to be independent and provide for yourself. But I also have no problem letting a man take some of that over, as long as he’s worthy of it, and is able to allow me to support him (not necessarily financially, because that’s not everything) when he needs supporting. That’s what it’s all about.
The key is not to try to play a gender-based role, but to fill the role that needs to be filled in your relationship by whomever is best able to fill it. You are a team, a dynamic duo, where both are moving in-step to the music together. Sometimes he may need to lead, sometimes she may. Other times you both may need to do some synchronized movements. Either way - so long as you are moving to the same beat, you’re all good.
Anyways, what do you all think? Do you agree, disagree? I am a christian too, I just think things have really changed since biblical times. I don't know...
A man once told me..
"A woman RARELY grows up to understand the dynamic of what a relationship should be like, if she didn’t grow up seeing one, and she RARELY truly understands what a real man is, if she didn’t have dad there laying the groundwork."
Can you know your role without seeing a good example?
Anyways, I definitely think us women need to revaluate what it is we are fighting for. In past era’s it made sense to take a stance on reproductive rights, the right to vote and equality in the workforce (something we have yet to obtain), but as far as fighting for a “man’s role”, we need to stop be being to so stubborn and hard-headed and let a man be a man. I don’t judge the new millennium and the switching of the roles if that’s naturally how your family works. For example, stay home dads or career bound women. Sometimes a fresh perspective is more amicable. However, I do think that women forget it is in a man’s nature to provide and protect. Why not embrace it?
I have no problem being independent. In fact, I think its necessary to know you’re able to be independent and provide for yourself. But I also have no problem letting a man take some of that over, as long as he’s worthy of it, and is able to allow me to support him (not necessarily financially, because that’s not everything) when he needs supporting. That’s what it’s all about.
The key is not to try to play a gender-based role, but to fill the role that needs to be filled in your relationship by whomever is best able to fill it. You are a team, a dynamic duo, where both are moving in-step to the music together. Sometimes he may need to lead, sometimes she may. Other times you both may need to do some synchronized movements. Either way - so long as you are moving to the same beat, you’re all good.
Anyways, what do you all think? Do you agree, disagree? I am a christian too, I just think things have really changed since biblical times. I don't know...
A man once told me..
"A woman RARELY grows up to understand the dynamic of what a relationship should be like, if she didn’t grow up seeing one, and she RARELY truly understands what a real man is, if she didn’t have dad there laying the groundwork."
Can you know your role without seeing a good example?
I agree with Teko, I believed a woman can choose to marry later in life now a days. We have freedom of choice in the USA that other countries do not have and I'm so grateful for that freedom. I put myself through college, like to come an go as I please without having to ask anyone permission on my whereabouts. Women have freedom and choices that they never had before. A role of both genders are what we want it to be. For a woman traditional roles are no longer the norm of past generations, which were get married in their 20', raise a family, and take care of the home. In this generation she can choose what role she wants to be in, a homemaker, career oriented, we can be the best that we can be, if that is what we choose. Also religion, here in the USA, we have the freedom to chose any relgious denomination or athiestism. I am blessed to be in the USA, because in other countries and cultures women are still considered subservants to men and have no voice.
I am one of those that belong to that generation that raised their kids thinking that the boys needed the education because they would take care of a family and us girls would get married and have babies. I was a teen back in the hippy days when everything was undergoing change. I was caught between that generation and this one. I ended up raising my children alone with little or no education. It was hard but I did it.
Now days, I think everyone should concentrate on education, making it possible for them to provide for themself no matter what. Back then you dated, married with the belief that it was forever. No room for anything else. Now people date, sleep with the partner try em out so to speak, go to the next and do the same until they find someone they think they are compatible with. Then it seems more often than not, 5 years into it are bored, unhappy because the relationship no longer suits their fantasy.
I would say that the role of a woman nowadays would be anything that interests her. Wether it be marriage and family, staying single, joining the corporate world or even a balance of all those things. Women are no longer put into a box like they once were, but I believe also women today must be very careful about sharing thier lives in marriage, slow it down, make sure both have the same goals for life not just in the now. I think marriage as we know it is on its way out. Jee I got wendy! Sorry
Now days, I think everyone should concentrate on education, making it possible for them to provide for themself no matter what. Back then you dated, married with the belief that it was forever. No room for anything else. Now people date, sleep with the partner try em out so to speak, go to the next and do the same until they find someone they think they are compatible with. Then it seems more often than not, 5 years into it are bored, unhappy because the relationship no longer suits their fantasy.
I would say that the role of a woman nowadays would be anything that interests her. Wether it be marriage and family, staying single, joining the corporate world or even a balance of all those things. Women are no longer put into a box like they once were, but I believe also women today must be very careful about sharing thier lives in marriage, slow it down, make sure both have the same goals for life not just in the now. I think marriage as we know it is on its way out. Jee I got wendy! Sorry
Hi, are you working on a paper or just stimulating tought? In my relationship we both are "equal". We both make decisions together, we agree to disagree and when we argue, we say what we have to say and get over it. He's a great guy, because I have a strong personality and I'm not afraid to speak my mind and he understands me and I just love the man for it.
People are different, so we all view the world differently, this includes different cultures, genders, race and religion. I'm Christian Catholic and when I say that I mean, I am who I am, yet I go to mass every Sunday..yes, every Sunday. My other half is Catholic and doesn't. It's important to respect each other as human beings and respect each other views. That's about all I can say right now...interesting questions makes you think and stimulates the mind..Judy
People are different, so we all view the world differently, this includes different cultures, genders, race and religion. I'm Christian Catholic and when I say that I mean, I am who I am, yet I go to mass every Sunday..yes, every Sunday. My other half is Catholic and doesn't. It's important to respect each other as human beings and respect each other views. That's about all I can say right now...interesting questions makes you think and stimulates the mind..Judy
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