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Too Much Mucus,,, No cure in the 'Medical Industry'

Especially after eating I get a Post Nasal Drip....
Been through two ENT's,,, Too Many GP's and taken to Hospital 3 times in 2008!
The Hospitals do bugger all! As has the medication that any one percribed me.
I'm not one of those try it for a week and drop it. I took Acid Reflux pills for 8 months non stop... Did bugger all!
The only things that help and helped alot was ye old Vicks inhaling.... and doing the nebulizer...
COughing all day most of the time.. Antibiotics tried them twice with no effect!
BUT; when my Doctor said that wehave exhusted all possible means, he told me that he was reluctant as its against his practise to recomend any Natural Doctors, but he couldn't stand prescribing me things that did not help at all. He said to Try an Iridologist and or Chinese Medicine. I did!! The results were amazing!
For over a year Many types of Doctors and emergency ward doc's did not have a clue, or could they help in any way.... So, I found a Doc Qualified in Iridology, CHinese Med and Holistic Med !! And guess what she was also an X-Practise MD, she said she just knew too much about the Pharma companies and couldn't continue down that road.... I didn't dig any further, but wasn't suprised with all the deaths you hear relating to Meds.  
She gave me a few test,, e.g. gave me a drink and then all my symptoms started!! Man, that was tough.. she sat there and watched me taking notes.. then gave me another drink and it stopped all the symptoms... She ased a few basic life questions, and diet questions,, then did the Iridology thing on me....
No problem she said, I'll be back with your Herbal Med..
I was driving home still not feeling good and though why not I'll take it now while driving,, and within the first couple of sips and Mucus symptoms started to stop!! Man, if that was the Placebo effect! That was pretty powerful and I think it wasn't.
I was given something that cured me in a matter of hours.. yet couldn't be cured within 1 year by many Doc's.
If there is anyone out there who has my problem too,, excessive white sticky mucus, post nasal and cough,,, DO NOT GOTO YOUR GP PLEASE! You'll save money by going Alternative and I hear its pretty rare for a practising Doc to refer you to Alternative med! Mine did and I went back and secretly thanked him big time! He said he wasn't surprised at my results and said he understand if I'm angry with the Med Industry.
I've also been told, and am now trialing Hydrogen Peroxide (up to my 5th day, and its going well),,, I'm looking to now cure my Asthma.
My GP has given me the Confidence (unwantingly) to go out and treat yourself naturaly... I never would have thought if my GP didn't recomend this action, I don't know where I would be today after so many Ambulance rides,,, and for WHAT REASON ? To be sent home in the same condition.
So my qustion is if My GP can eventually say this has any one else had any simular experiences? (Either with your GP saying to head off to the Alternative pool or my SYmptoms and have not had help from the Med Industry).


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Hi
Three years ago I had swine flu it left me with a verry bad cough I couldn't get rid of
To date I still have a cough and white sticky mucus
I took a trip to the doctors who referred me to a Hospital consultant ,he prescribed Lansoprazole 30mg(gastro-resistant capsules) &Fexofenadine
Hydrochloride 120mg (anti histamine) it helped for a short wile but now the cough is back with the same sticky mucus nothing seems to work
What was the name of the medicine the natural therapist gave you ?
What was the he's prognosis with your condition ?
I think it's what I have by the way you describe your symptoms ,it so head to get rid of can you or anybody else help me.
Gemmax
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Ok can u please tell me what "bugger all" means. Im American and we don't talk like that. It makes it hard for me to understand u when u use weird language.
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Can u recommend anyone in melbourne iridologiset , sorry about the mistake. or suffering with this for almost a year my throat is filled with chunky ieces fo mucas sometimes white sometimes yellow makes me feel like ther is something stuck there, I have asthma too, loose my voice, on and off or it becomes too tired when I talk, feel my chest get tightens, no wheeze though, get some relief since I started taking benadryl one day for mucas relief and antihistamin the next stated a coule of fridays ago,, ENT said have ost nasal dri, and gastrocsoy said to take zorton thAT IT COULD BE SILENT REFLUX NOTHING NOTED THOUGH H YLORI WAS NORMAL SOME of the keys dont work so there might be missing letters
Going to another ENT as i was not too hay with the first, my immunoglobulin E serum test came out as 1666 to be recise normal reading zero to two hundred so Dr said I have quite a lot of allergies and can go and get them tested with a dermatologist and they could give me injections to get me immuned to it. Zorton made me bur a lot or I just strugfgled to bur like haveing colic, I was also ut on valrim 5 mg but I was getting uset and emotional, still am but not as bad as I was, it made me slee when I slee I am qite good until the cough wakes me u but if had a dose of the cough medicine hels me to have a good night slee.  If you know of a good natural theraist I dont mind giving it a go itf it hels I live in melbourne victoria australia my email is ***@****
Thanks
heather
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How is everyone doing? I have have had some good results using pau d acro tea three times a day. Also Gluthamine powder three times a day in a little warm water.   It helps heal the gut It also acts as a pre botic, this feeds the good bacteria in the gut. My stomach feel more settled.I still have mucus in the morning Which does seem to be related to what i eat,Wheat and milhk etc. I also take digestive enzyme with betaine HCI with meals.Plus  ginger teasHope this may help others. Remember we are all different.It is so sad the doctors will not work with us. But do not give up trying different thing to see what suit you needs, and do be carefull if using meds . Best wisher to all Hotchillipeper
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Hi  rhunt47    Have         you tried probotics? It is also possible that loww stoamch acid may be involved. This can encourage an overgrowth of bad flora in the gut like candida ect.This can cause what is known as leaky gut.This allows food that is not properly digested to enter the blood stream causing problem such as alleries and toxic conditions.   ALSO EXCESSIVE MUCUS IN THE STOMACH AND THROAT. I understand that you have to be very careful of what you take when on blood thining meds.Also you will not find many doctors who ackowledge the possibilty of people having to little stomach acid and the problems this can cause including indegestion,lack of absorbtion of certain vitamins and som autoimmune illness.Most alternative therapist seem to be aware of these problems. There are some great site on goggle.If you type in your symptoms But do be careful becuase of your other conditions. Will post again take care Hotchilliper
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Your post was just fine.  Thank you for reading mine.  I find that the candida thing is very interesting.  I have always wondered if it was an overgrowth of yeast I was having trouble with.  I can tell it is not so bad when I eat less.  I do eat a lot of sweets and fruit so that can be part of the problem also.  Also I don't know if I will be able to go to herbal meds since I am now on coumadin and have been told to stay away from green leafy foods, don't know it it will include herbs but whenever I eat them my coumadin goes crazy so I just stay away from them.  Thank you so much, I will keep coming back to see if there is anything new on this subject.
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Please excuse spelling and lack of spacing in my last posting. Hope it is readable            Hotchillypeper
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Hi rhunt47 sorry to hear about your suffering. I haveing only been suffering for too years and it does get you down. Im thinking of trying chinese herbal medicine.The detox way also makes a lot of sense. The immune system seems to be involved,and the body seems to be overloaded. It is difficult when the medical profession does not want to know. there are doctor out there that do deal with natural therapies that assist the body in the healing process. unforunatly your average medically trained doctors are only allowed to prescibe what the establihment allows them to.and this seems to be dictated by the drug companies.Doctors that go against the establishment can be stopped from practicing.So most will not stick their necks out.I hope you feel better sone you have been suffering along time. Any new ideas I can come up with i will post.I will not stop triring to find a solution.Luck to you all. Hotchillypeper
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Thanks for all the information will have to read over it again.
I have been suffering from this for over 10 years.  No help from anyone, and I have tried herbs, had all the test done in the world.  Including lung, stomach, nose and throat. Been on all the acid meds and nose sprays and allergy meds.  Have a bag daily that I cough mucus in all day long.  I have had two open heart surgeries and the last one I choked so bad I think I died and came back, at least my med records says the resusitated me. One day I told my cardiologist about this and he told me about Benzonatate (tessalon pearls).  I tried them and they worked, then it started up again.  But after I got out of the hospital and almost opened my chest back up from the coughing I decided to try it again.  Well this time it worked, and I've been on them every since.  It stop the coughing, but the mucous still comes up.  What it does is take off the stress of the coughing and you don't choke off of the mucous.  I started taking 200mg three times daily and had to go down to 200 mg twice daily.  It helps but the problem is still here.  But I was really bad before to the point where I was ready to give up on life.  So this helps a lot I guess. Now I'm suffering with numerous sinus infections and wonder if it's from taking the Benzonate.
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hi tzintax, some very interesting iiformation thanks for taking the time to post it.Are you suffering with this condition too. What you say makes sense. As anyone else tried this method i know there are a lot of people suffering with this condition.

Does anyone know if Angus is still keeping well? Good look to all.

Hotchillipepper
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Found a book called Arnold Ehret's Mucus Free Diet System. German guy from before the second world war who researched this topic to death because it nearly killed him. He did all of the stuff everyone is suggesting with great success. It cost him several years and a fortune to find all of this out before the internet. When he had recovered he found that he kept sliding back into the problem over and over again and had to go through several rounds of treatment! Sound familiar?

He eventually ran a spa and sanitorium for people with mucus related illnesses. Wild eh? He made it clear that all of the good stuff that everyone has been talking about on this forum should be done more or less as need and experience dictates. His own experience was that there are many ways to cause the problem of too much mucus. It can form in response to many irritations, therefore different solutions to the mucus will make sense accordingly. A great misunderstanding can often happen when a treatment a first gets good results and then symptoms worsen drastically, so they quit because they believe that the solution was the wrong one. However its his contention that the curing process releases all kinds of historic junk and irritants which can make the symptoms worse. It might make sense to back off for a while and try anothr piece of the puzzle. We want a straight up answer in our culture and here are all these extra things and multifacets to deal with. How do we deal with this release of waste and the worsening symptoms?

Arnold believed that the underlying root of the problem of too much mucus was that the body could not clear its self of the daily irritants within its system fast enough. An illness, allergy or healing crisis would put some peoples internal sanitary system into overload quite easily. His thesis was that since we use the same system to take in nourishment as we do to rid ourselves of internal waste a conflict can of use and timing in the system can lead to back ups into the tissues. Gross! So as long as we keep the alimentary canal which is both our digestive and waste track busy with taking in food all of the time it won't be able to deal with any special problems of eliminating waste. He developed a very comprehensive fasting method to allow the digestive system to shut down and the eliminations system to operate at full capacity. He was very careful to talk about dangerous forms of fasting as well.

He used the term dross meaning not poison but just useless extraneous stuff in the corners, basement and attic of your body that your body has to slow down to avoid tripping over. Think of it like this; every cell in the body has to exchange food, waste and product through a membrane to work effectively. The cell walls may become like dirty windows and blocked doors. The cells then can not produce enzymes, control their contractions, filter the blood, clean themselves or exchange oxygen. A hundred symptoms of wildly different diseases appear.

So anyway, its not about how many times your bowels eliminate a day as much as figuring out if all of the lymph ducts, interstitial spaces between cells and cell walls can pass the junk down the line to the bowel, skin, lungs etc. The whole concept is about not going all out all of the time like we do in North America. Giving time to rest and recover. But also, it is about the fact that nearly none of us know how to rest and recover! How many of us would know to stop eating, take a couple of days off work, take walks, have a sauna or two, drink lots of water, tea, read a book, meditate and fast?
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Hi Angus nice to have you back on the site. I have been doing some research myself.My own expereince of the medical proffesssion leads me to believe that they are all in the pockets of the drug companies.my own GP said if I wanted to find out what was wrong with me I sould go to Harvard  {you know the big hospital in America. I am trying coconut oil and garlic which does thin the mucus.

My own problems started after I took Zantac for indigestion. I now understand that blocking the acid in the stomach creates an ideal envirnment for fungus overgrowth.Since 70% of the immune system resides in the gut you can imagine the chaos.Its like gut ferementation with a lowered immunity.

Do you know whether oxy silver is the same ascolloidal silver?  

Keep in touch and good luck to all of you out there suffering dont give up

regards Hotchillipepper
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Thanks for putting up with my grammer, and above I double pasted a sentence.
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Hi Waylon77,

Pau d'Arco herb! Wow, too bad this herb is mainly in America. It sounds brillient. Just spent a great deal of time reading up about it on many sources. I'll have to get some.

5-6 Years is no less than a depressing experience. I truely hope you feel the effects of wellbeing soon. How has the coconut oil been serving you?, i know a lot of people say to go slow on it, but I have huge amounts of this stuff! And it is now even seeping into the mainstream media in Australia (god forbid). But I agree, on the taste side of life, oats and coconut oil is very nice.

There is one thing that I didn't add on this site, besides Oxysilver that I posted above, but Cabala Juice isn't so bad either. CABALA (Carrot, Apple-Red, Beetroot, Apple-Green, Lemon, Apple-Yellow). Just chuck the whole lot in a blender, of cause best if organic, add a little water, and its not too bad. Apparently highly nutritious with this combination. If you research CABALA juice, there is a lot of interesting stories out there on it.
Please let me know how your doing. There are so many choices to make and so many avenues to take with health, though I think we all agree allopathic medicine no matter how much begging, won't deliver a thing.


Hi Waylon77,

Pau d'Arco herb! Wow, too bad this herb is mainly in America. It sounds brillient. Just spent a great deal of time reading up about it on many sources. I'll have to get some.

5-6 Years is no less than a depressing experience. I truely hope you feel the effects of wellbeing soon. How has the coconut oil been serving you?, i know a lot of people say to go slow on it, but I have huge amounts of this stuff! And it is now even seeping into the mainstream media in Australia (god forbid). But I agree, on the taste side of life, oats and coconut oil is very nice.

There is one thing that I didn't add on this site, besides Oxysilver that I posted above, but Cabala Juice isn't so bad either. CABALA (Carrot, Apple-Red, Beetroot, Apple-Green, Lemon, Apple-Yellow). Just chuck the whole lot in a blender, of cause best if organic, add a little water, and its not too bad. Apparently highly nutritious with this combination. If you research CABALA juice, there is a lot of interesting stories out there on it.

Please let me know how your doing. There are so many choices to make and so many avenues to take with health. But if you haev survived 5-6 years of this, I truely hope that you have some improvement soon. Though all my suggestions do help, I have even cured my asthma (that I had since I was 3 at the same time) they are long term. Cells take time to repair and your environment could be taken into account too.

Just for anyone who requires what i did again to get rid of all the dibilitating mucus.
1. Exercise - I did Yoga or pushed myself to do bike ridding etc.
2. Ate no chemical foods (though difficult at first - some people will say 'are you crazy'.
3. Took good Fats
4. Used Hydrogen peroxide
5. Pictured something positive happening to my body.
6. Took very good quality supplements and vitamin C.
7. Filtered my water with 4 stages and reverse osmoses (though quantum physics does not agree with reverse osmoses).
8. Get a good amount of sun.
9. Meditation when I could (the difficulties here are breathing, with mucus,, almost impossible to fully relax).
I want to honestly say here. I have been researching alternative health and seeing an Alternative health lecturer here in Australia for a while, and want to stress that everyone’s body mentality, ideas and expressions are different. I’ve known people to cure themselves from eating raw meat, others from becoming vegetarians and others with cooked food and others with raw food. Once I knew these things it really confused me. Why did I get well? Of cause, being open was best... but like us all, with too much mucus, and no cure, we have little left but to be open! I think if this never happened to me, I’d still be going about my life as if Allopathic Medicine is just called ‘medicine and likewise, a Doctor would never have been called an ‘Allopathic medicine doctor to me.  I’m glad and happy my path has changed greatly and that I do not believe in a cure anymore from Allopathic medicine.
Sorry if this is reiterating......... apologies I know nearly all people who read this page are already knowing of the following facts... BUT,,,
I don’t have the real answer. But there are some things we can be sure on, dividing things down to ‘live’ foods and ‘dead’ foods, and I think we know more than 90% of our shelves are ‘dead’ foods. AND I can be certain that we have huge amounts of cells in our bodies dyeing and millions more being built, and we need live materials for the cells, and good fats to create the membrane of the cell, which no doubt is the first and foremost protector of our cells.
Second of all, I am certain that our mentality plays a big part of our bodies electromagnetic communication systems, including our nervous system, happy people and those with less electromagnetic interference have much smoother communication between the brain and cells.
YET! Then you throw in ‘Intention Experiments’ and the ideas of what is consciousness and Physics and biology suddenly are thrown into a whole new world. One book on this would be ‘Biology of Belief’ and another book, umm with an obvious name, ‘Intention Experiments’.
Anyway, I know, that right now most people reading this are no doubt, not having much fun with Mucus. And really really want to hear your stories, if you had a good week, please post it up on here, and maybe state the reasons why etc..
Cheers,
Angus1223




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Hi,

Yes, Bottled Water would be fine with H2O2. You will still recieve that extra oxygen.

All water is ok in my research in Newtonian Physics, though Modern Science (going quantum) would suggest that 'live' water, water that has been moving has the best health qualities. If you want to go more alternative, though some people do shun this guy, Dr Emoto from Japan has some very interesting experiments.

There are some other very alternative things out there, but it is so difficult to know if something is a hoax or not, Oxy Silver is something new, and was used by NASA, in my own experience it has shown to be just as effective as H2O2.

I hope this is useful information.

Sorry I didn't reply earlier, on holidays now, I would be more than happy to post any new info.. in the next couple of posts.

Angus1223.
Andrew
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Hi Angus,
Can you tell me if it is ok to use ordinary bottled water with the hydrogen peroxide as it is very difficult to locate any distilled water in the UK.

I would appreciate any information anyone has to offer on the subject.

Getting me down a bit.
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Hi Waylon77,

I also have not been able to find the 35% H202. I am a little reluctant to try the 3% H202. Can you let us all know how you get on with the 3%. In the meantime I have obtained some Coconut Oil and am going to try that. I am also using Pau D'Arco tea which is anti fungal. I am not sure whether the problem is fungal or some kind of parasite, and the doctors here are useless, as I don't think that they have the time or knowledge to help.

I live in England and have joined The Candida Society who supply helpful information.

Keep in touch.
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Angus, thank you for your in-depth post on your treatment. I have been suffering from excess white frothy mucus for about 5-6 years now, and I have been brushed off by most doctors.

I went out today and bought some Cold pressed Coconut oil and some 3% Hydrogen Peroxide. I'm still looking for the 35% but for now I will give this 3% a whirl and post my results here. I added about 2 Tbsp of the coconut oil (it is solid at room temp) into my oatmeal with some honey and it was absolutely delicious.

I really appreciate you sharing your situation with us, if this coconut oil and H202 make any headway, you will have done more for me than any doctor I have met.

Thanks again, and my heart goes out to all of you who share this awful and often ignored ailment. Good luck to you all, and be sure to post your results here, we can all benefit from our collective knowledge.

Cheers,
Waylon
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Hi Angus,

I hope things are still ok with you. I am suffering with the same problem myself for just over a year. I have done the rounds of traditional medicine as described in your earlier post. Like you say, doctors are not interested.

My own thoughts are it is some sort of gut fermentation possibly due to parasites or candida overgrowth. I am taking probiotics and pau d'arcdo tea. I am trying to find more information or a book on hydrogen peroxide and its uses.

I would be grateful for any information or updates on this matter.


Kind regards,


hotchillipepper
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Updating here about Diary. I believe most people commenting on this blog are very aware of health subjects now, controversial or not. I have been cured of this for a while now, and I want to retract my Diary statement on a few expections. After much more research, that I`m sure some of you have done. RAW milk will not create Mucus, dispite the findings that even though Cow`s milk has 200 times more calcium than Human milk, we still only get smaller amount overall. Pasturised milk WILL create mucus, the enzyms in the milk are destroyed and they become like cutting razors throughout your blood, killing cells, I`ve found RAW milk to have no Mucus effects plus mcuh research supports this.
Too Bad I live in Australia and our dimwitted government has made RAW milk illegal.
Can eveyone please e-mail the Australian government and ask for this to change. Thanks.
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Hi Nancy,
I don`t know if the 3% is going to help, the trouble is the food grade h2o2 is stabalized. Therefore I can tell you it is easier for your body to use, but the 3% one used in the industry will definatly not harm you, but can:t say it will have great effects. I`d still use a full glass of water, it doesn`t taste good.
Personally, if you can get yourself onto good fats, like Coconut Oil with medium chain fatty acids, your going to be alot better off. Above your question is a Vitamin C suggestion. If your American, I:d get Vitamin C from only a few sources, but Raymond Francis`s one from ************.com will be a great one to take. Vitamin C cleanses your liver (well good ones anyway, and there are not many good Vitamins out there, so please be careful).
By the way, how bad are your symptons and when did they begin?
Angus
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hi angus! wondering if the 3% hydrogen peroxide will have any affect if i can't get the food grade. maybe just a tbsp. of 3% in a couple of tablespoons of water instead of the a full glass with the food grade...
thanks.
nancy
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Vitamin C in higher doses is also excellent.
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Things that kill candida (which cause mucous, white and/or frothy mucous, slimky mucous, etc)

coconut oil
oregano oil
garlic oil (gel pills available)
tea tree oil (DO NOT INGEST. ONLY INHALE STEAM.)
FOOD GRADE hydrogen peroxide (VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
L-Glutamine is excellent to rebuild intestines and health

etc.

Do the research. Look at all the symptoms. I HIGHLY believe something is happening to the population, and whatever it is, our bodies are suffering from this Candida explosion.
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