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selle

i engaged in deep, prolonged french kissing, many times. can ui get gonorrhea, chlamydia or syphillis this way>?
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are u saying I'm at no or little to n risk for  HIV? what are the standard stds? i tested negative fo gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, trichomoniasis, i already have had hepatitis B vaccine, and hepatits A and C are not transmitted via the activities i described, and i dont have pubic lice, scabies, NGU,(since i dont have chlamydia),  chancroid, or molluscum. i have had normal pap smears too. i have no herpes break outs as well.
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Selle,

I think you may be obsessing. :) As I've indicated, I believe your risk for HIV is quite minor. Perhaps non existent. But its impossible for me to fully determine what exactly happened and whether or not you were exposed to anything of major consequence. Judging from your description I would say very little to none. I would say your biggest issue of concern would be the unprotected oral sex which does poses a risk for transmitting "standard" STDs.
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also, someoen said to me that if i were that easily transmited, that more people would get it in terms of my semen on finger part where,  i 'got some of his semen on my index
finger, and then wiped it off on his shirt, then
stupidly grabbed my labia minora with that same finger
a few secodns later. I'm sure most of the semen should
have come off, although i didn't see it?' i mean if it were that easy, than more people would easily have it, no? its never been documented to be transmitted this way.

what do u still say about my overall risk, from what i wrote here and my the activities too?
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i think this is the confusing part but i'll rewrite it: nd got some of his semen on my index
finger, and then wiped it off on his shirt, then
stupidly grabbed my labia minora with that same finger
a few secodns later. I'm sure most of the semen should
have come off, although i didn't see it. what's my
risk for getting HIV, if at all?

this, along with the other activities, what would u assess my risk, if any?
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here's my exposure again to clarify the semen part?
engaged in deep, prolonged french kissing a few times, received unprotected oral sex
from a guy a few times, was fingered a few times, and
sat on a guy's penis(which was covered by his
semen-soaked underwear, and I had NO underwear on at
the time), and got some of his semen on my index
finger, and then wiped it off on his shirt, then
stupidly grabbed my labia minora with that same finger
a few secodns later. I'm sure most of the semen should
have come off, although i didn't see it. what's my
risk for getting HIV, if at all?

whats my risk(if any) after carefully reading it again?

also, i knwo one doesn't need stds for HIV to occur, but based on the activities that occured from the sentence i mention above, and the fact that the other stds are easier to acquire than HIV, and that i tested negative for these stds, doesn't it seem feasible to conclude that my chance of testign positive for HIV is also low to non existant?
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To Selle:

From what you described earlier, you mentioned that he had semen on his fingers when he fingered you.. that is why I brought it up as a possibility of concern. If he did not... there shouldn't be any problems unless his fingers were bleeding.

As for testing negative and other STDs and HIV....one is not required for the other to happen. However, being positive for STDs can increase your odds of contracting HIV. If he was negative.. it doesn't matter at all. But as to your activities, I would say that you have very little to worry about with HIV.
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However, there is some issue for the fingering scenario if he had lots of semen on his fingers when he penetrated  you.

what do u mean here? are u talking about when he used his fingers to finger me? he had no semen on his fingers when he did that, to my knowledge.

if i tested negative for gonorrhea, chlamydia and syphilis, as well as trichomoniasis, so is it feasible to ay my chances of getting a positive result for HIV are also unlikely, since i tested negative for all else, and never had penetrative vaginal or anal sex, and never performed oral sex?
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However, there is some issue for the fingering scenario if he had lots of semen on his fingers when he penetrated  you.

what do u mean here? are u talking about when he used his fingers to finger me? he had no semen on his fingers when he did that, to my knowledge.

if i tested negative for gonorrhea, chlamydia and syphilis, as well as trichomoniasis, so is it feasible to ay my chances of getting a positive result for HIV are also unlikely, since i tested negative for all else, and never had penetrative vaginal or anal sex, and never performed oral sex?
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Selle,

Yes..oral contraction of Gonorrhea from a man giving cunnilingus to a woman is possible, though not as likely as penetrative sex.

No matter where Gonorrhea is incubating in the male urinary tract, it will eventually come in contact with semen thus making it infectious.

Bacteria are a self sustaining organism as opposed to a virus that requires host cells to survive. Bacteria can survive the environment longer because they've evolved to do so and they have a cell wall.

Judging from what I read in your "experience", I would say that your risk for HIV is very low at best. You shouldn't have anything to worry about. However, there is some issue for the fingering scenario if he had lots of semen on his fingers when he penetrated  you.

You have to decide what is acceptible risk for you. I personally get checked for STDs after every partner I engage  in sex with. Yes.. that limits my number of partners I have because I have to wait through all the window periods before engaging in sex again. But for me that is acceptible. My "guess" is you will be fine and your HIV test will be negative. But if you're uncertain, test at 6 weeks. 98% of people will seroconvert by that time frame.
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this is my full exposure and tell me what u think my risk for HIV is: i'm a female who engaged in deep prolonged french

kissine a few times, received unprotected oral sex

from a guy a few times, was fingered a few times, and

sat on a guy's penis(which was covered by his

semen-soaked underwear, and I had NO underwear on at

the time), and got some of his semen on my index

finger, and then wiped it off on his shirt, then

stupidly grabbed my labia minora with that same finger

a few secodns later. I'm sure most of the semen should

have come off, although i didn't see it. what's my

risk for getting HIV, if at all?

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planned parenthood said it's possible to get genital gonorrheal infection from a man's throat, but very unlikely. does that sound right? maybe i didn't write it correctly.

if gonorrhea or chlamydia is in the urethra of the man, then is it infectious in the semen in the urethral part?

also, why wud u think that the gonorrhe and chlamydia bacteria survive longer than HIV once outside the body?
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HI Selle,

I agree with Planned Parenthood that transmitting gonorrhea via deep kissing is unlikely, however I personally do not rule out the possibility from what I've discussed with my STD doctor. I also disagree with their assessment that a male can't infect a woman with gonorrhea if he has an oral infection and performs oral sex on her. I will admit that its not the starndard route of transmission..and I'll also admit the likelihood is considerably less.. but to say it can't happen is short sighted.  Would you really trust that assessment if you were asked to have oral sex with a man you knew was infected with oral gonorrhea? I wouldn't. There are also documented cases of women with gonorrhea transmitting the bacteria to a man's mouth via oral sex. Again.. its less likely, but it can happen.  As for herpes.. that's definitely possible.

Now.. onto HIV. Yes..HIV is a fragile virus. It will start dying once exposed to the environment, however, it can survive on surfaces for short peroids of time especially if suspended in fluid like semen. If the semen dries, HIV's infectious capabilties fall off dramatically. As for comparing it to gonorrhea or chlamydia, I would say the bacteria stand a considerably better chance of surviving outside the body than HIV does.

As for whether or not gonorrhea and chlamydia are found in semen depends on where the infection is located at. If its in the urethra, its brought along with the ejaculate when it leaves the penis. If its deeper, like in a man's prostate, its found within the prostates fluids which is mixed in with the semen.. thus making it infectious.
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i talked to some peopel at planned parenthood and they said it's extremeely unlikely for a woman to get gonorrhea or chlamydia from a man who has either infection in his throat and does oral sex on her b/c the bacteria are in the back, and the woman's vagina and external geneitalia really dont make contact with the back of the throat, unlike the penis in oral sex, which does, which is why we don;t see trnasmission via kissing, b/c it's a similar concept, does that make sense? even syphillis is much less, sicne the chancres usually don't prefer the mouth but the genitalia.

and thus the only real risk a woman is at from this exposure is herpes, what do u say?

also, from the semen on hand then fingering a woman's vagina scenario,
as for HIV, doesn't the virus start to get weak once it hits the air, meaning it's viral load is reduced tremenduously?  

on a side note, which die quicker when exposed to the air, the HIV found in semen, or gonorrhe and chlamydia found in semen?

and why is it possible for gonorrhea and chlamydia to be passed this way? are they found in semen like HIV is too?
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To Selle:

Q: Can you, as a female, get gonorrhea through oral sex from a man who has an oral infection of gonorrhea in his throat?

A: Yes. You can. Although this method of transmission is far less likely than having regular sex. But he must have gonorrhea in his throat for this to happen.

Q: Can ejaculate on fingers pass gonorrhea or other STDs to a woman he fingers?

A: Yes. There is potential for gonorrhea and chlamydia to be passed this way. I'm not sure about trichomoniasis. As for HIV, the possibility is there, but it would highly depend on the amount of ejaculate, how long his semen was exposed to the environment, if he was HIV positive, how high his viral load is, if he has any other STDs, if you have any other STDs, and if any potential damage occuring to the walls of your vagina by his fingernails. HPV and Herpes could also be spread this way.

Fingering with semen is not a very smart idea...use lubricant first... and at last resort spit before using ejaculate. Finger cots, latex gloves, or even a normal condom, is recommended for fingering to help prevent damage to the mucus membranes.
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also, if a guy ejaculates semen on his hands, then
fingers a girl, can the girl get gonorrhea, chlamydia,
trichomoniasis or HIV that way, assuming he has all or
any o these diseases?
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i also received unprotected oral sex a few times as a female. can i get gonorrhea this way? also, if a guy who has gonorrhea in his genitals ejaculates semen on his fingers then fingers a girl's vagina, can the girl get gonorrhea from him this way?
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Well consider that Gonorrhea lives on the mucus membranes at the back of the throat and tonsils. In many ways its similar to a Strep infection of the throat. In order for gonorrhea to infect the throat it has to find its way back there. It doesn't live well in the front of the mouth where there's more oxygen and potential mechanisms to kill it. So.. somehow it must be delivered back there. Normally sucking a man's member is a guarenteed way of depositing the bacteria at the back of the throat and that's what causes nearly 80-90% of oral gonorrhea infections. However, deep kissing could provide a similar mechanism...especially if you do it for long periods of time and stick one's tongues down each other's throats. Oral sex on a woman who has gonorrhea is also documented as transmitting the bacteria, but its not as efficient as oral sex on a man. Likewise, a person who has oral gonorrhea can transmit the bacteria to a man's member by sucking on it. So again... theoretically,  the transmission of gonorrhea bacteria from one person's mouth to another is possible, especially if the tongue dives in for a little tonsil hockey. :) Another thing to consider is what kinds of activities the other person has been engaging with before kissing you. If he or she had recently engaged in oral sex with another person and then kissed you...transmission possibilties increase.

As for syphilis, I don't have enough data to know if transmitting the bacteria via kissing can happen without an active syphilis chancre. You'll have to do your homework on that one.

As for HIV. Can a person get HIV from getting a blowjob? The odds are very small. Saliva does not transmit the virus. It would be like deep kissing. The odds are really really low. However, say the person has blood in their mouth or has had recent dental work (like within a hour or two before giving you oral sex) there is a chance that blood could enter the urethra (if you're male) and transmit the virus to you. But there are no real documented cases of this happening... so realistically, receiving a blow job is pretty darn safe for HIV...but herpes, gonorrhea, syphillis, or hpv are NOT our of the question.
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what do u mean 'theoretically yes' for gonorrhea? whats that supposed to mean?  and what if the person doesn't have syphilitic chancres on his lips?

i also received unprotected oral sex but tested negative for syphillis, gonorrhea, chlamydia and syphillis for it. what are my risk for HIV from this?
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Chlamydia: Nope
Syphillis: Possible if the other person has a chancre on his/her lips.
Gonorhea: Theorectically yes if the other person has an active oral infection of the throat.
Mono: Definitely
Herpes: Definitely
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