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After exactly 4 weeks - question
Dear all, thank you all for your help ever since my incident exactly 4 weeks ago now. I regret it very much and have had a hard, hard time. I have rang hotlines and from the forums here have been told I am at no risk for HIV from my activities below.
My incident is below:
Went in to a massage parlour in London and saw a elderly white gentleman who told me the sex worker was from Ivory Coast. He assured my she was clean and "that the parlour was also a clinic". She herself assured me she was clean but had a bad attitude and was almost certainly an illegal immigrant. Not sure what odds we are talking here in terms of infection but she was from West Africa which is worrying.
I got a brief massage with her hands, then I turned over and she placed the condom on my semi erect penis (before wiping my penis with a wet wipe). Gave protected oral for around 3 minutes (asked me if I wanted unprotected - worrying) then I got up and inserted it into her (did not grind against her for fear of HPV/Warts). This lasted about two minutes (protected vaginal sex).
The risk was when I withdrew from her I immediately touched the condom, masturbating myself. Therefore her vaginal fluids definltely were on my hand. Then I asked for oral to which she said no unless I used another new condom. Here there was a brief delay where I hope anything harmful would have dried/died. She then removed the condom and put a new one on and gave me protected oral. I am certain I masturbated myself unprotected with that hand though between her taking it off and putting it on.
I then removed the condom myself (carefully this time) and masturbated to completion on my own into a tissue.
My question is at this stage 4 weeks down the line what STD symptoms could or would have shown? What can I rule out? Touch wood I have had no real symptoms to speak of, I had an awful flu but so did my whole family. It's a lingering one and I have had a headache all day. Just hoping to goodness that I don't develop any other symptoms or a fever again as I'll go crazy with fear.
I believe I suffer from HIV anxiety - not sure if it is justified phobia or not. Through the support of people here I've been told I can have unprotected sex with my girlfriend which I did yesterday for the first time.
Basically I want to move on and want to know what STD's should I still be considering to show after 4 weeks from this incident.
Thank you
My incident is below:
Went in to a massage parlour in London and saw a elderly white gentleman who told me the sex worker was from Ivory Coast. He assured my she was clean and "that the parlour was also a clinic". She herself assured me she was clean but had a bad attitude and was almost certainly an illegal immigrant. Not sure what odds we are talking here in terms of infection but she was from West Africa which is worrying.
I got a brief massage with her hands, then I turned over and she placed the condom on my semi erect penis (before wiping my penis with a wet wipe). Gave protected oral for around 3 minutes (asked me if I wanted unprotected - worrying) then I got up and inserted it into her (did not grind against her for fear of HPV/Warts). This lasted about two minutes (protected vaginal sex).
The risk was when I withdrew from her I immediately touched the condom, masturbating myself. Therefore her vaginal fluids definltely were on my hand. Then I asked for oral to which she said no unless I used another new condom. Here there was a brief delay where I hope anything harmful would have dried/died. She then removed the condom and put a new one on and gave me protected oral. I am certain I masturbated myself unprotected with that hand though between her taking it off and putting it on.
I then removed the condom myself (carefully this time) and masturbated to completion on my own into a tissue.
My question is at this stage 4 weeks down the line what STD symptoms could or would have shown? What can I rule out? Touch wood I have had no real symptoms to speak of, I had an awful flu but so did my whole family. It's a lingering one and I have had a headache all day. Just hoping to goodness that I don't develop any other symptoms or a fever again as I'll go crazy with fear.
I believe I suffer from HIV anxiety - not sure if it is justified phobia or not. Through the support of people here I've been told I can have unprotected sex with my girlfriend which I did yesterday for the first time.
Basically I want to move on and want to know what STD's should I still be considering to show after 4 weeks from this incident.
Thank you
Thank you Grace and God bless you. Everytime I feel a bit tired or sniffly I start worrying again. But I will keep repeating this...no risk...sorry I'm such a headcase. Thanks again.
no you didn't get hiv from this!!!! good grief!!
this encounter was not a risk for std's. write that on a post it note and keep reading it until you believe it!!!
this encounter was not a risk for std's. write that on a post it note and keep reading it until you believe it!!!
I know grace. I don't have that kind of money though or time.
At this point I just want to move on from it. It's been a month now, can I write it off? Not sure what type of medical experience you have but after 4 weeks of relatively no symptoms can I just forget about it? Or are there STD's that can be in me for years?
I know the BIG one (I can't even write it right now) can lay dormant but I read from Dr Hook and HHH most people will get ARS between 2 to 4 weeks?
Thank you
At this point I just want to move on from it. It's been a month now, can I write it off? Not sure what type of medical experience you have but after 4 weeks of relatively no symptoms can I just forget about it? Or are there STD's that can be in me for years?
I know the BIG one (I can't even write it right now) can lay dormant but I read from Dr Hook and HHH most people will get ARS between 2 to 4 weeks?
Thank you
Thank you grace. I actually really hate myself for what I did. I keep making bad decisions when I have a good life - why do I try and jeapordise myself? If I can put it behind me and move on healthily I'll be happy.
just fluids on your hands isn't a risk.
you are fine dear other than your anxiety over all of this.
you are fine dear other than your anxiety over all of this.
I'm also just asking as I genuinely don't want to cause any harm to my girlfriend - I am petrified of that more than harm to myself.
I know that some STD's are asymptomatic too. Is there anything at all I can rule out after 4 weeks? What would have shown?
It is such an AWFUL feeling not knowing whether I am fine and healthy or not due to the vindictive nature of these viruses. In that they can be asymptomatic and only "show" after months.
I know that some STD's are asymptomatic too. Is there anything at all I can rule out after 4 weeks? What would have shown?
It is such an AWFUL feeling not knowing whether I am fine and healthy or not due to the vindictive nature of these viruses. In that they can be asymptomatic and only "show" after months.
Can I just ask one more thing though - is in not theoretically possible that the vaginal fluids on my hands could have infected me? I vigorously masturbated myself. I have been told this has never happened for HIV but what about STD's?
Has this ever been known to happen?
I'm just trying to cover all possible risks so I can move on from this. Thanks
Has this ever been known to happen?
I'm just trying to cover all possible risks so I can move on from this. Thanks
Thanks grace. I know we discussed it and believe me you and the others have helped immensely in improving my mental health - this site is literally the most important thing to happen to the internet.
Touch wood if no symptoms come I am on the verge of moving on from this. Apart from some whitish spots on my outer thighs and legs that hopefully are linked to dry skin (they are most visible after a shower) I have not seen anything that appears to be worrying touch wood.
Your reassurance that I could not even have got STD's from this encounter greatly re-assures me. I don't have therapy money nor am I able to do it without leading a double-life but hopefully this is an awful chapter of my life that I can close and move on from, never to put myself in it again. I will be living a moral life from now if I can get past this healthily.
Touch wood if no symptoms come I am on the verge of moving on from this. Apart from some whitish spots on my outer thighs and legs that hopefully are linked to dry skin (they are most visible after a shower) I have not seen anything that appears to be worrying touch wood.
Your reassurance that I could not even have got STD's from this encounter greatly re-assures me. I don't have therapy money nor am I able to do it without leading a double-life but hopefully this is an awful chapter of my life that I can close and move on from, never to put myself in it again. I will be living a moral life from now if I can get past this healthily.
we discussed this previously in your original post on this forum on this encounter.
your anxiety is the issue. you were not at risk for a std from this. seek out professional help for your anxiety over this since you aren't getting over it on your own.
grace
your anxiety is the issue. you were not at risk for a std from this. seek out professional help for your anxiety over this since you aren't getting over it on your own.
grace
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