Chlamydia has an origin, so where is the origin?

[Kestrel_eye]

It seems rather presumptive to me that a doctor can simply say that a bacteria is passed along via sexual intercourse, but this doctor does not have the knowledge to explain the origin of a bacterial disease such as Chlamydia.

These diseases just don't happen, there has to be an origination somewhere. The gods don't just say one day, well I think we'll infect someone with Chlamydia today and see what happens.  Bacteria comes from the earth, just like we did, so where is the does this particular bacterium originate?  

Sure Chlamydia is 1000's of years old and passed in humans sexually, but it is also carried by Cats, Dogs, Birds, etc. There are different strains of Chlamydia that can cause pneumonia, or other area's of the body to be affected, including the eyes.  

It's pretty bad when there is no ability with our technologies to trace the origin of a bacterium that is prevalent in more than just human beings.  It's also fairly ignorant of a Doctor to simply say, it's caught via sexual intercourse.

It doesn't matter how much education you think you have, if you lack the ability to continually learn and evolve your understanding of the world around you, you're either arrogant or ignorant.

Now if someone asks a doctor a question and the only answer they can give is that it's an STD, there's a problem and that Doctor needs a little more education.


This discussion is related to Chlamydia.

[auntiejessi]

We have years and years of studies and data about chlamydia trachomatis, the form of chlamydia that infects the genitals.  We know, after all these years, how its passed.

I'm sorry if that's hard to hear, or if it makes you angry.  I think its presumptive to assume that your doctor or medical professional is ignorant because they are basing their answers on years and years of science.

What real difference does it make knowing how chlamydia originated?  If you had strep throat, would you be wondering how it originated?

[Kestrel_eye]

I wasn't commenting about my doctor, I was commenting about the doctor from the original thread in this forum.

If there are years of study, then why is there little to no information about the bacterium on the net?

I've had surgery on my ureter, between my kidneys and bladder, before and after that time I've had a few UTI's because even though I am a male, I am more prone to get them.

About 6 years ago, I was tested for every STD and the results came up negative to make sure I was clean.  The only girl I've been with since that point is my girlfriend of 5 years and I'm her first and only partner and she has been my only partner since those tests were done.

To tell me that you doctors don't understand the origination of a bacterium and I mysteriously caught a bacterial disease from my girlfriend, who I trust with my life, who's been my only partner since my last test and I her only partner ever, is pretty ludicrous.

Now, as per the original thread... Can you catch it other ways? Yeah, I think you can catch it other ways... because there is no other possible explanation, other than to say my original test 6 years ago were WRONG. Putting the fault again at the feet of doctors and medical testing.

If it's the case where my negative tests from 6 years ago were wrong, and this causes my girlfriend any adverse affects, such as PID, I'll be taking legal action. If it's a case where the tests now are wrong and I was just given medication to treat something that isn't there, I'll more than likely be taking some sort of action.

So... you know how it's passed?  I don't care how it's passed.  What is the origination? If one knows the original source, ie: how humans came to contract it, then maybe we'd be a little further on in this conversation than we are now.

Unless of course I hurt your well educated feelings?

[Kestrel_eye]

"I'm sorry if that's hard to hear, or if it makes you angry.  I think its presumptive to assume that your doctor or medical professional is ignorant because they are basing their answers on years and years of science."


http://www.clinlabnavigator.com/Tests/ChlamydiaDetection.html

"Excessively bloody specimens may cause false positive. Excessive mucus in endocervical samples may cause false negative results."

Apparently Science isn't always all it's cracked up to be, and there are still more things to learn and discover out there.

I'll be having a word with my Dr, because I know there was blood in the second specimen (since when did we have to pee in two cups) because I pinched off to stop the flow (probably shouldn't have done that) and it cause a sharp pain in my urethra near my scrotum and a few blood droplets to go into the urine in the second cup upon the completion of the urination.

[Vance2335]

Yes false positives do happen just like false negatives, it's part of life. It's rare but yes it can happen.
You want to know where clymida came from...I think there are bigger things to focus on in science and in life in general. Science wants to find a cure for HIV and cancer and is not concerned about where chlymida came from.

And don't come on here and snap at people who are here to help. If you don't like the answers then don't come back. This is not a site to complain about this or that, this site is dedicated to help people. You came on here not looking for help but just to complain.

[you_bu451]

Hey there, I believe I may have an understanding as to where your question is coming from or how your asking it, let me know if im wrong.
My question is similar... Did chlamydia come from some sort of bacteria caused by having sex? I mean I have not been the most honest person these last couple of months and feel as if I may have been the cause in my case.
I have been seeing 2 people at the same time for a couple of months now. Not to be trashy, just im young and trying to figure out what I want. Unfortunatly I ended up with something I did NOT want. Chlamydia. I'm wondering if it could be caused by having two sex partners in one day and the bacteria from both of them coming together forming a disease?????? Or did one have to have it already and pass it on? I guess im not sure if my question is making sence.. i really just want to know if its possible that I started it or not? Because through all this I have gotten a severe case of PID and having already lost my first and only child during delivery it would be heart breaking to have any complications in future pregnancies. I just kind of want to know.. ya know?

[auntiejessi]

No, chlamydia is its own bacteria.  Its not something that comes together.  One of your partners had it, and you got it.

I'm sorry about the loss of your baby.

Aj

[STAR7]

HI,

I AM VERY CONCERNED WITH THIS. BECAUSE THE ONLY ANSWER I RECEIVED FOR WHY I HAVE CHLAMYDIA IS THAT IT IS SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED? I KNOW THAT. BUT MY BOYFRIEND IS THE ONLY PARTNER I'VE HAD...AND HE SWEARS HE PUT IT ON HIS MOTHERS LIFE HE HASN'T CHEATED AND NOT BEING NAIVE BUT I BELIEVE HIM. AND I KNOW I HAVEN'T DONE S***, SO HOW DID WE GET THIS? WE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR 2 1/2 YEARS. CAN IT JUST START WITH US HAVING SEX WITHOUT A CONDOM? AND THAT'S HOW THE BACTERIA EVOLVES INTO CHLAMYDIA? THAT IS MY QUESTION AND I CANNOT SEEM TO GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER.....EVEN THOUGH I TRUST MY PARTNER.....ITS KILLING ME TO NOT GET THE ANSWER AS TO HOW IT COMES ABOUT? YES, SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED BUT HOW? WHY? IT CANT JUST BE THAT THE ONE YOU ARE WITH CHEATED ON YOU AND THEY GOT IT AND NOW YOU HAVE IT? NO...I BELIEVE THAT BACTERIA LIES IN THE SEMEN, OR IN THE FLUID FROM THE VAGINA AND HAVING SEX WITHOUT A CONDOM JUST MAKES THE BACTERIA TURN INTO THE CHLAMYDIA? BUT HAVE NOT RECEIVED AN ANSWER? ILL KEEP LOOKING, BUT HOPEFULLY SOMEONE CAN HELP!!!

[Vance2335]

It is a STD. One person has to have it in order to give it to another. That is the only way. It does not manifest from something else.
You or him could have had it for a long time and not known it. It would be on the long side but possible. If you or him just started to develope symptoms within the last month then it is a new infection.

[thatgirl82]

actually it can be caused by the insertion of an IUD (intrauterine device) because it facilitates the upward spread of vaginal and cervical bacteria
see www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00031002.htm