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Genital wart characteristics/confusion and questions on transmission
by NegativeCreep, Apr 04, 2009 03:04PM
Hi. I've been kind of seeing this guy and when we discussed sex, I aske dhim if he had STDs or anything. He said he has what he believes his ex gave him, "a genital wart". Oh I said. He said he never had it confirmed to be a wart and one person (guy who gave his a vasectomy) said it's probably nothing to worry about but another (somebody at the health department who can't treat anything besides like chlamydia) said it could be a wart and to get it checked for sure.
Well we didn't have sex but later I checked it out. He said he already has this big, brown birthmark that's been there all his life and it's in the fold of like his "cut" region where like the pubic area ends and the upper thigh begins. Then he shows me the "wart" and it looks JUST like it. It isn't on his penis tip, it isn't on the shaft, and it's like maybe an inch or slightly less from where the penis begins and maybe a little over an inch from where the pubic hair starts at it's highest point on his pelvis. I guess I should say that REALLY dense, hairy part that's around the base of a penis, it's right outside of that.
I asked him more stuff and he said he's had it for 5 years and it's gotten bigger but hasn't gone away, there was never another one, and it just kind of sits there. The only other thing is the birthmark he's had all his life. He also said he's never seen it on his ex with whom he's been intimate with until last Christmas or so and to whom he attributed the transmission to.
Well last night, we DID end up having protected intercourse. The thing did not touch me at all; the only part that did was the condom covered penis.
I should also note I have had all three doses of Gardisil.
Yeah I know I did somethign stupid but we're really close and it happened. I did everything I could to remain safe. I'd like to get as much from here as I can so here is the rundown:
- it is brown - STARK brown like chocolate - to his pale skin
- there is only one
- he's had it for 5 years and none others have appeared
- we wore a condom and the only thing that touched me was what the condom covered and in fact I covered the "area" with my hand lest it did touch
- my gardilsil treatment ended in January
So...
a) what are the chances it's a wart? (note: it's appearance when I looked in the light is more wart-like/tag'y than I thought and it reminded me a bit of a Mandarin orange slice)
b) if it is, what is the degree of protection Gardasil afforded me?
c) does it matter that it didn't touch me?
I'm really scared! I know I always say that but I am. Yet now I've realized much of me being scared before had to do with guilt. But can somebody give some insight?
Well we didn't have sex but later I checked it out. He said he already has this big, brown birthmark that's been there all his life and it's in the fold of like his "cut" region where like the pubic area ends and the upper thigh begins. Then he shows me the "wart" and it looks JUST like it. It isn't on his penis tip, it isn't on the shaft, and it's like maybe an inch or slightly less from where the penis begins and maybe a little over an inch from where the pubic hair starts at it's highest point on his pelvis. I guess I should say that REALLY dense, hairy part that's around the base of a penis, it's right outside of that.
I asked him more stuff and he said he's had it for 5 years and it's gotten bigger but hasn't gone away, there was never another one, and it just kind of sits there. The only other thing is the birthmark he's had all his life. He also said he's never seen it on his ex with whom he's been intimate with until last Christmas or so and to whom he attributed the transmission to.
Well last night, we DID end up having protected intercourse. The thing did not touch me at all; the only part that did was the condom covered penis.
I should also note I have had all three doses of Gardisil.
Yeah I know I did somethign stupid but we're really close and it happened. I did everything I could to remain safe. I'd like to get as much from here as I can so here is the rundown:
- it is brown - STARK brown like chocolate - to his pale skin
- there is only one
- he's had it for 5 years and none others have appeared
- we wore a condom and the only thing that touched me was what the condom covered and in fact I covered the "area" with my hand lest it did touch
- my gardilsil treatment ended in January
So...
a) what are the chances it's a wart? (note: it's appearance when I looked in the light is more wart-like/tag'y than I thought and it reminded me a bit of a Mandarin orange slice)
b) if it is, what is the degree of protection Gardasil afforded me?
c) does it matter that it didn't touch me?
I'm really scared! I know I always say that but I am. Yet now I've realized much of me being scared before had to do with guilt. But can somebody give some insight?
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His symptoms sound nothing like a wart, but he can get checked by calling the health dept and asking what services they offer for those with no insurance.
AJ
Anyway thank you. I am going to tell him that I found a PP near us he can probably go to I believe for $60. As I learned when I had that issue last year, MetroDetroit STD clinics are NOT helpful and can be quite hostile. I care about him a lot and don't want to to hurt or embarrass him. He is of a different generation that I, 14 years older, and seems clueless about the whole thing but in no way dismissive or deceptive.
However would the Gardasil protect me against infection? And that I only came into contact with what the condom covered, does that mean anything?
If he has insurance, PP takes that, too, if he's concerned about price.
If it is hpv, the Gardasil shot will offer you protection if its a strain covered by that.
Condoms help a lot too.
Aj
Now his penis (what the condom covered) is not where the thing is but that was the only part that touched me as we made sure. Does that make any difference?
And if it is indeed a wart and it's either the 6 or 11 strain (or whatever), how much am I protected?
I don't know exactly how much protection it offers offhand, but check out HPV forum for that.
Aj
Anyway I didn't find much about how much protection Gardasil provides me from the warts it includes, just that it "only protects against those".
I'd REALLY like to know, though, if it matters that the only thing on him that touched me was his condom-clad penis which of course isn't even where the thing is. Avoided contact with anything the condom didn't cover - that mean anything?
Oh and I called a 24 hour hotline. Freaking USELESS. :(
OK what I've been able to find is that Gardasil prevents 90% of genital wart infections, and 70% of the high risk HPV infections. For those, it offers 96-100% protection. http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_pi.pdf table 6
It also says this: "Prophylactic efficacy against overall cervical and genital disease related to HPV 6, 11, 16, and 18 in
an extension phase of Study 2, that included data through month 60, was noted to be 100% (95% CI:
12.3%, 100.0%) among subjects in the per protocol population naïve to the relevant HPV types.
GARDASIL was efficacious against HPV disease caused by HPV types 6, 11, 16, and 18 in women
who were naïve for those specific HPV types at baseline." That's right below table 6 on pg 12.
Hope that helps.
Aj
It seems I wasn't searching using the correct qustions to get something as detailed as what you found. But I suppose it may be easy to do with something like HPV where the science of it isn't even very clear. Grrr...
And yes, *only* what the condom covered (ie. most of his penis) touched me and that wasn't even where the thingy is (a few centimeters above the base of his penis). While I understand that it's still the general area in many ways assuming this is a genital wart that it isn't exactly like only touching his arm, but indeed it would lower the risk?
He just needs to get it checked, if not for him, for you. You need to find some answers here.
Aj