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Vaginal fluids to wound?
Hello doctor.
Hope you are doing great. I am posting this question since I am lost in a worry well since some weeks. My situation is as follows:
-25th February 2012 .. My First ever encounter. I had protected oral sex with a CSW. No penetration at all.
Prior to putting the condom, my penis may have brushed against her buttocks or genitals. I really do not remember this though. I fingered her using a water based lubricant. She also sucked my fingers lightly. Subsequently I rinsed my hand under water (no soap as far as i remember). I then saw a little inflamed follicle on my pubic area near the base of the penis shaft. I popped it and pus came out. After 1 to 1.5 hours I reached home. I touched that popped hair follicle again while undressing. Then i had a shower using soap and gel. I washed my hands obviously and dried them. When I got out, i scratched vigorously and squeezed that part of the pubic area again with my fingernails to liberate the hair and I ended creating a wound there with some blood. I put alcohol in it and it burned a bit. After 4 days it was healed.
I saw no lesions or ulcers on my genitals till now. I had no cut or hangnails on my fingers.
I understand that protected oral sex carries no risk of STD whatsoever. (from other posts)
My concern is as follows:
1) Any risk for STD from the probable 2 to 5 seconds touch (brush) of my bare penis to her back, belly or buttocks or from my fingers being in her mouth?
2) Am I at any risk for a STD from popping the hair follicle and creating a wound there after showering and washing my hands? My concern is mainly Hepatitis B or any other virus such as Herpes which could have survived in my fingers even after the shower or when i popped the hair follicle after rinsing my hands...and got transmitted to me.
3) Do I need to wait and test for anything?
Im considering to see a therapist to move on if this is not a risk.
Waiting for you answer doctor.
Caesar
Hope you are doing great. I am posting this question since I am lost in a worry well since some weeks. My situation is as follows:
-25th February 2012 .. My First ever encounter. I had protected oral sex with a CSW. No penetration at all.
Prior to putting the condom, my penis may have brushed against her buttocks or genitals. I really do not remember this though. I fingered her using a water based lubricant. She also sucked my fingers lightly. Subsequently I rinsed my hand under water (no soap as far as i remember). I then saw a little inflamed follicle on my pubic area near the base of the penis shaft. I popped it and pus came out. After 1 to 1.5 hours I reached home. I touched that popped hair follicle again while undressing. Then i had a shower using soap and gel. I washed my hands obviously and dried them. When I got out, i scratched vigorously and squeezed that part of the pubic area again with my fingernails to liberate the hair and I ended creating a wound there with some blood. I put alcohol in it and it burned a bit. After 4 days it was healed.
I saw no lesions or ulcers on my genitals till now. I had no cut or hangnails on my fingers.
I understand that protected oral sex carries no risk of STD whatsoever. (from other posts)
My concern is as follows:
1) Any risk for STD from the probable 2 to 5 seconds touch (brush) of my bare penis to her back, belly or buttocks or from my fingers being in her mouth?
2) Am I at any risk for a STD from popping the hair follicle and creating a wound there after showering and washing my hands? My concern is mainly Hepatitis B or any other virus such as Herpes which could have survived in my fingers even after the shower or when i popped the hair follicle after rinsing my hands...and got transmitted to me.
3) Do I need to wait and test for anything?
Im considering to see a therapist to move on if this is not a risk.
Waiting for you answer doctor.
Caesar
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Welcome to the forum and thanks for your question. I'll try to help.
You're obviously very anxious, far more than warranted by the exposure described. My guess is that you have been conditioned by inaccurate and perhaps biased health education. Young people today can easily get the impression that society is soaked in STDs and that you can't expect to have sex without being at risk. It isn't true.
Second comment, which comes having only read as far as "I had protected oral sex with a CSW. No penetration at all." That being so, you can safely assume you are at zero risk for any STD. Oral sex is generally safe sex even without a condom -- not completely risk free, but there is no risk for some STDs and for all others much lower risk than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. In other words, you had safe sex and shouldn't be worried.
Having now read the rest of your question, my theme of reassurance will continue. The minor exposures to secretions that occur despite condoms generally are not to be worried about. The reason certain bacteria and viruses are sexually transmitted is that they evolved to require direct exposure of susceptible tissues in the urethra, cervix, vagina, etc. With rare exception, they cannot be transmitted by superficial contact with secretions etc; if they could, they would be much more common and would be frequent in people without sexual exposure.
For those reasons, there is no risk for any infection from the specific events described in questions 1 and 2, and for sure you do not need to be tested for any STD. Just put this incident behind you and stop worrying about it. When you become truly sexually active, just plan on condoms for vaginal or anal sex and otherwise don't worry.
I hope this helps. Best wishes-- HHH, MD
You're obviously very anxious, far more than warranted by the exposure described. My guess is that you have been conditioned by inaccurate and perhaps biased health education. Young people today can easily get the impression that society is soaked in STDs and that you can't expect to have sex without being at risk. It isn't true.
Second comment, which comes having only read as far as "I had protected oral sex with a CSW. No penetration at all." That being so, you can safely assume you are at zero risk for any STD. Oral sex is generally safe sex even without a condom -- not completely risk free, but there is no risk for some STDs and for all others much lower risk than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. In other words, you had safe sex and shouldn't be worried.
Having now read the rest of your question, my theme of reassurance will continue. The minor exposures to secretions that occur despite condoms generally are not to be worried about. The reason certain bacteria and viruses are sexually transmitted is that they evolved to require direct exposure of susceptible tissues in the urethra, cervix, vagina, etc. With rare exception, they cannot be transmitted by superficial contact with secretions etc; if they could, they would be much more common and would be frequent in people without sexual exposure.
For those reasons, there is no risk for any infection from the specific events described in questions 1 and 2, and for sure you do not need to be tested for any STD. Just put this incident behind you and stop worrying about it. When you become truly sexually active, just plan on condoms for vaginal or anal sex and otherwise don't worry.
I hope this helps. Best wishes-- HHH, MD
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
I have no further comments or advice. You may not keep returning with every additional anxiety-driven "what if" or "yes but" question that comes to mind. Any more of it will result in immediate deletion of the entire thread.
Please end this thread by one last answer of the above question doc.
Truly no more post for me.
I will always be grateful for your help.
Tomorrow I am off to take a plane to visit some Islands in Indian Ocean just after visiting the psychologist. Waiting anxiously.
Thank you in anticipation. Bye bye
Caesar
Truly no more post for me.
I will always be grateful for your help.
Tomorrow I am off to take a plane to visit some Islands in Indian Ocean just after visiting the psychologist. Waiting anxiously.
Thank you in anticipation. Bye bye
Caesar
I am sorry to be posting again but this time I promise it is a last one.
I see its no risk from rubbing the penis on the buttocks. But I also rubbed my covered penis on her vagina from the back when she was on all four. Just for few seconds. My penis was covered with a condom. NO RISK here also?
Just confirming. You know my bad sexual education and anxiety led me to ask u this last one. There is nothing more and will never be.
I am currently reading from the ASHA website.
Please answer this last query. I have taken appointment with a psy already.
Please answer to help me calm my nerves and move on.
Caesar
I see its no risk from rubbing the penis on the buttocks. But I also rubbed my covered penis on her vagina from the back when she was on all four. Just for few seconds. My penis was covered with a condom. NO RISK here also?
Just confirming. You know my bad sexual education and anxiety led me to ask u this last one. There is nothing more and will never be.
I am currently reading from the ASHA website.
Please answer this last query. I have taken appointment with a psy already.
Please answer to help me calm my nerves and move on.
Caesar
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Oh come on. Read my preceding replies; the answer to this question is obvious.
The ASHA website (www.ashastd.org) would indeed be a very good source to learn about STDs and their prevention.
The ASHA website (www.ashastd.org) would indeed be a very good source to learn about STDs and their prevention.
Last question doc. Sorry my anxiety made me forget it. I wanted to post it but my computer froze
I rubbed my condom protected penis against the crack (upper part) of her buttocks when she was lying down. I assume this is no risk and no testing needed?
Just need your confirmation! This is my last post.
Will educate myself on the ASHA forum henceforth.
Thank you.
I rubbed my condom protected penis against the crack (upper part) of her buttocks when she was lying down. I assume this is no risk and no testing needed?
Just need your confirmation! This is my last post.
Will educate myself on the ASHA forum henceforth.
Thank you.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
No risk. If a bare penis (no condom) doesn't come into contact with the inside of another person's vagina, rectum, or mouth, there is no significant risk of any STD.
I missed a little part doctor. In question 1 I missed the word genitals. If my bare penis had brushed against her genitals for few seconds (i don't remember if it did really but as a worse case scenario).
Is this a Risk or NO Risk?
I mentioned it up there but I forgot it in the Question 2.
Sorry I missed it.
Caesar
Is this a Risk or NO Risk?
I mentioned it up there but I forgot it in the Question 2.
Sorry I missed it.
Caesar
Thank you doctor.
I have been taught to fear STDs too much as a result of really bad sexual education. That is why I was so worried about the viruses such as Hepatitis B and Herpes.
Since it is no risk, I am contacting a psychologist to get some good advice to move on.
Thank you a million times doctor. You made me feel alive again.
Kind regards
Caesar
I have been taught to fear STDs too much as a result of really bad sexual education. That is why I was so worried about the viruses such as Hepatitis B and Herpes.
Since it is no risk, I am contacting a psychologist to get some good advice to move on.
Thank you a million times doctor. You made me feel alive again.
Kind regards
Caesar
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
I saw this before I replied above. Still no risk.
Please note that I had popped the inflamed follicle just after fingering the CSW and washing my hands. It is after nearly 2 hours and having taken a bath that I scratched the same place and created the wound I am worried about.
Sorry to be so long. I posted all the information I could. I pray that it is not risk..
Sorry to be so long. I posted all the information I could. I pray that it is not risk..
You are reading content posted in the STDs Forum
Herpes spreads by oral, vaginal and anal sex.
Herpes sores blister, then burst, scab and heal.
STIs are the most common cause of genital sores.
Millions of people are diagnosed with STDs in the U.S. each year.
STDs can't be transmitted by casual contact, like hugging or touching.
Syphilis is an STD that is transmitted by oral, genital and anal sex.
