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1461759 tn?1295320765

Is it rape?

I just started drinking about 5 weeks ago first thing i ever drank was 2 and a half cans of bud light. And a friend of mine let me try vodka well this time it was stronger vodka then what I've tried before. It was me and about maybe 6 other people and we were all having a little party I got drunk and I don't remember anything after seeing my closet friend dancing (John) and after that I was kind of out of it and I'm guessing I passed out. Well i don't know how long i was out for but i opened my eyes and i couldn't really move cause when i tried to my body felt so heavy and my words couldn't come out right i guess i was still buzzed but while i guess i was doing all this someone was on top of me i didn't know who it was til i turned my head and saw his brother standing next to the bed. I didn't know what all was going on until i felt him push and then i knew i could hear the younger brother telling him to move so he could get back on and when i looked back over. He was straddling his **** to keep hard and then his older brother just told him to wait and hold on. I was really surprised and when his older brother got off he got on i don't know how long they were "Taking turns" but i passed back out after a few pushes and when i got sober enough to where i could walk i left i didn't care how cold it was i just wanted to leave. I went my ex's house to tell him what happened cause i had no one else but he couldn't come out the next day my vaginia really hurt and it was dry so i guess they were going at it for a while. It was eating at me really bad and when i told a friend of mine she was so mad she wanted to tell cause she said it was rape i asked her not to i don't know why but i did and she talked me into telling John (His the closet i have to trusting anyone right now) I told him and after school when we all got together again to hang John said it wasn't rape so i guess he talked to them cause the younger one was mad at me. He wouldn't talk to me or even touch me so i stayed close to the older one and the girl i told cause John said it wasn't rape. But Sierra and her best friend says it was i don't know. This happened like 2 weeks ago on the weekend....Is it rape or not?....Also this passed weekend i got drunk again and I don't remember anything but a friend of mine said i had sex with the younger one and i don't remember but my vaginia was hurting again and it was dry like last time too....Was this also rape?
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Hey FallinAngel,
  It was rape, gang rape, and statutory rape.  Research all of these terms.  
The reason people are telling you any different is because they are either protecting the rapists, or because they are ignorant (many high school students, especially high school BOYS, simply do not know the difference).  
  Also, rape makes people feel ashamed, when really what is needed is support for the victims.  People will deny the truth and lie about the truth, but the truth is still the truth.  
  I bet if you talked to a trusted school counselor, parent, family friend- in other words an adult who you trust- they will tell you it was rape.  Now, if you talk to an adult who does not have good values and who is leading a terrible life, then you may be setting yourself up for more misinformation.  
  You have to tell someone.  And it is great that you already talked to Sierra and John (even though John was wrong to say it wasn't rape).  Kudos that you had the courage to open up.  
  You have to process this with a therapist.  Again, there are many ****** therapists out there just like there are ****** adults, but you can find the right one.  
  This happens to young girls (and women and children) all of the time.   You can make a difference by reporting this.  While you do not have physical evidence, because you did not take a rape kit, it sounds like you may have witnesses (others who were there at the party).  If you get hold of a video all the better.  
  If you are able to build a case against these two men, they will go to jail where they belong.  
  This should not have happened to you, it does not have to happen to you again, and it shouldn't happen to anyone else either.  
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1310633 tn?1430224091
And another thing... I'm not going to tell you not to drink anymore, because that's an exercise in futility. What I CAN tell you to do is, GET YOUR OWN DRINKS.

Don't let anyone GIVE you a drink.
Don't let anyone GET you a drink.
Don't let anyone POUR you a drink.
Don't let your drink out of your sight.

If you're going to drink something at a party, or someones house, or at a club, or anywhere... get it yourself.

No one can slip something into your drink if you get it yourself. Keep it with you at all times. Keep your eyes on it. Don't let it out of your sight.

I've said it to you 100 times on private-messages... you need to tell someone. It's not too late.

Don't let your worthless ex-boyfriend and his brother get away with this.
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1310633 tn?1430224091
So they video-taped the rape as it was happening? Is there any way you can get your hands on the video?

Have you told anyone about this yet?
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1461759 tn?1295320765
Thanks for the advice
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Avatar universal
most likley they slipped you a rophy or tranquilizer. when i was thirteen i drank 3 beers and a few shots in the space of 2 hours and didn't even feel drowsey so passing out after 2 beers shouldn't happen.
it's 100% rape if you didn't consend so either call police or go to the cop shop. if you dont want to then hold your head up and get on with your life, dont let them hold you back in life
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As a male this was 100% rape. Some people might call it date rape or whatever it was rape. And at the very least you might be able to have them locked up for statory rape. Sex with a minor.

I would encourage you to tell your parents and the police. I doubt this is the 1st time they have done this and doubt it is the last time.
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1503780 tn?1289650491
Yes it was rape!
I am so sorry that this happened to you! I was raped twice (once when I was 12 once when I was 14) and it is a terrible thing to go through! Tell someone; your parents, a teacher, a guidance counselor, any adult that can help! Do not minimize what happened! Do tell them that you were drinking; while they may be angry that you were drinking, they will be more concerned about what happened between you and those two boys!
Please, please stop drinking! I first got drunk at 14 and it is not a good habit to start! It can lead to situations like yours, and worse. They may be slipping something in your drink, or you may have a low tolerance which would explain why you're passing out. Don't hang out with people that encourage you to drink or hang out with these boys if you aren't comfortable!
The age difference makes it statutory rape. You are a minor, and they are adults. Even if you were "blacked out" (doing things you don't remember while drunk) and you asked them to have sex with you, THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE. THEY ARE THE ADULTS. WHEN A MINOR ASKS AN ADULT TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM, THE ADULT NEEDS TO SAY NO. THE ADULT NEEDS TO SAY NO, EVEN IF IT WAS THE MINOR'S IDEA. IT IS STILL WRONG.
If your friends don't believe you, then they are either in shock, or they really aren't your friends. I was ostracized by a group of people for about a year when I told them about being raped by "Dan" (changed the name). They didn't believe me, and told me I was just mad about him never wanting to date me. A year later, one of the girls in the group called me, and told me that he had raped her.
This is why you need to tell someone immediately, and press charges. If your rapists are allowed to walk free, they will be able to victimize others. You need to do all you can to make sure that that does not happen!
Please tell someone ASAP if you haven't already! Both of my rapists are walking free because I was afraid no one would believe me. Please do something before it's too late!
You will be in my prayers, and in my heart. Good luck!
Lottie
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I agree with the others.
1st. It's rape. Contact the police. Chances are if they did it once they'll do it again.

2nd. Don't drink. You are MUCH too young. Your actions prove that. Drinking isn't cool and it gets you into trouble.
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1310633 tn?1430224091
The more I think about this, the more ILL it makes me.

This very same thing happened to my wife while she was in college. She went to a party and had drinks, and passed out. She woke up with a guy on top of her, was able to get him off her, and she ran out.

She never told anyone, until I came along and she confided in me, and she's in therapy because of it (among other things).

You really need to get this off your chest and tell a loved one & the authorities. This will haunt you if you bottle it up and keep it inside.

My wife used to blame herself for the incident when it was CLEARLY not her fault. I just don't want you to go through the same things she's going through still, to this day (and she's in her mid 30's now, so it's been almost 12 years since it happened).

We're her to support you kiddo.
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973741 tn?1342342773
Oh honey,  I'm sorry this happened to you.  Don't be confused and they aren't either.  They know it was wrong.  They aren't asking you to do that when you are sober, are they?  Yes.  They raped you.  They are of age and you are not.  What they did was illegal.  

I know we all want you to report them so they don't hurt any other girls like this again.  But whatever you do------------- YOU stay away from them.  

Please do not put yourself in this situation again. Can you tell your mom about this?
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1310633 tn?1430224091
If you did not consent, whether you were coherent or not, then it's rape.

Sounds to me like the 2 brothers knew EXACTLY what they were doing, and if I had to guess, slipped something into your drink. Passing out from 2.5 beers isn't normal, even for a non-drinker. Possibly Rohypnol (rophy)?

But even if nothing was slipped into your drink, and you simply passed out from consumption, IT IS RAPE.

The 2 of them should pay for what they did to you... PERIOD.
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If you did not agree to have sex with 1-2 males PRIOR to you drinking (when you were totally conscious of what was going on) then it was RAPE PERIOD! A man cannot have sex  with a woman thats unconscious. That's like having sex with a dead body.

If you don't want to press charges, just try to move on with your life and NOT put yourself in a sitatuation like that again. ALSO, YOU SHOULD NOT BE DRINKING!! YOUR BODY IS NOT THAT FULLY DEVELOPED TO HANDLE ALCOHOL!!! SO STOP THIS NONSENSE!!!! PLEASE!!!!
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1461759 tn?1295320765
No i didn't want it to happen I'm just confused cause people keep acting like it wasn't all that bad in it bugs me. The only person that really told me it was rape and was worried about me was my friend Sierra. By the way they're 21 and 22 and im 15 but me and her are more worried about the whole passed out and sex thing. I told them i was gonna quiet drinking.
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if you want to drink do it slowly and know what you are doing and keep a friend close to you now tell the truth you wanted to do it get laid with two guys because you dont seam to upset about it, I cant beleive you are doing al that at 15 but just play it more safe
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I forgot to add: You also need to go to ur local Police Department and file a report against them, or else they'll keep doing this to someone else!
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There's a reason y alcohol age limit is 21 and not 15. Christ ur only 15 years old and taking vodka shots? I understand if it's 1 or 2 bud lights or something, it's a curious age, but damn 15 is way to young to try vodka. Your brain cannot handle this much intolerance.

Now back to your situation. YES it was a 100% Rape. Because those two jugg heads did not have your fully consent to have sex with you. As far as I know there could've been a date rape drug mixed in ur drink. Even If u were fully conscious you are too young to be having sex, if those guys were 18 years old or over then that's a felony for having sex with a minor.

You need to seek help immediately by going to your doctor, check for your pregnancy status, get checked up for STD's. And most importantly tell your parents or your guardians.

AND DON'T DRINK TILL UR 21
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684030 tn?1415612323
What your described is gang rape. If you don't wish to involve law enforcement, at least consider counseling for both the sexual victimization that you were subjected to and with what appears to be the early signs of alcohol problems.

You might also want to choose a better class of friends to hang out with. If he was a true friend, "John" would have been looking out for you... and protect you... instead of denying that you were assaulted!
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1420648 tn?1295809833
I agree it's rape, at the end of the day they had sex with you while you where passed out, I wouldn't like to come round after passing out to find 2 guys taking it in turns ******* me. Regardless of what they say!
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176495 tn?1301280412
It's highly possibe they put something in your drink, but this should be a very clear lesson to you, particularly at your age...you are too young to drink and you SHOULD NOT BE drinking at all.  And it does sound like rape to me.  I don't believe it's too late to involved the authorities and if I were you I would.  These guys clearly know what they are doing.

Bottom line:   YOU ARE FAR TOO YOUNG TO BE DRINKING..You are building a reputation for yourself that you are not going to want in a couple of years.


Jim
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you also didn't say your age and the guys ages.
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You need to stop drinking alcohol and leave it at that! There is no purpose in drinking alcohol if you're going to over drink it to the point you are passed out and unconscious and not aware of what's going on.
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