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electronic cigarette

Any thoughts on the electronic cigarette? I'm unsure how the nicotine dose is regulated and any health issues. Could inhaling this vapor cause lung fungus? I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
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We are not allowed to discuss smoking products on this forum. This is for the support of quitting. If you want to know, google it and read
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This is for trying to quit. It tapers the nicotine dose down to eventually help you stop all-together. It is really no different than using nicotine gums and meds like Chantix. And I did google it and read, but was wondering if anyone had tried it successfully or knew any information re: health. Thanks for the support.
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sorry but there is no such thing as a "taper quit"........just doesn't exist no matter what they say.
The only way to quit is just to quit.
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Buuuttt...............the point of quitting smoking is to eliminate the nicotine from your system as well as breaking the "hand to mouth" habit which is a huge part of the whole addiction.  It seems to me this product just reinforces these habits.  

I don't get it.....
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I don't think atomizer was a real person......just someone who was trying to plug a product and a very bad one at that. This wasn't the forum so I reported him/her/them.

It looks like Jade is talking to a phantom person, sorry : )
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Oh!  Duh!

Hahaha.....I did get a strange feeling from that person, but guess I'm a little slow in recognizing b.s today :)

Glad SOMEONE'S awake!!!
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@kathyjo
I have to disagree about 'taper quitting'.  For some it has been a successful method.  I quit that way so my smoking cessation wouldnt be so severe.  I do believe it requires a lot of willpower to not take another than another, but if you commit to specific intervals and make out a plan over a course of a few days or more I don't think its an unreasonable plan.  Granted for some it absolutely does not work, but cold turkey isnt the only working method for everyone.
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I am new to the site and just joined this group. I don't think grumpygirl's question is a spam or one promoting a product. I too have questions about this product's health issues (I wouldn't have found this thread had I not typed in the product's name in my search here) and my web searches have come up with conflicting reports and not a complete set of answers. Of course, I can always ask my doctor when I enter the smoking cessation course at the hospital this week.
That said, I am on my last day (I hope) as a smoker. Been diagnosed with very mild emphysema and its been a real wake up call for me. But I am fully not looking forward to the withdrawl (withdrawal) symptoms at all. For some cold turkey does work and I am hoping it works for me too.
I am able to go long stretches without smoking when around family (all non-smokers), however, where I work a lot of the customers smoke (in a separate smoking room, that has been approved by the State of Nebraska--no 2nd hand smoke to deal with if not in the room), but I can easily see inside the room. Also, many of my friends smoke, so I am not shielded from it like I am when with my family.
I am going to assume that everyone in this group is an ex-smoker or ones trying to quit this nasty habit. Any words of advice you can give me would be greatly helpful. Will keep folks posted on my progress. Wish me luck. Thanks.
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Welcome : ) Congrats on your decision to quit!
First off "atomizers" post(s) was deleted. Grumpygirl was responding to atomizer which isn't something we should encourage, especially when his WAS an ad....replacing one thing for something else, example; nicorette or the losenges which are not a "quit" method. In my mind it's like a drug addict replacing a pill with alcohol......it just doesn't work.
I didn't quit cold turkey either. I used chantix and I was lucky not to have had some of the side effects that others did. No matter what your quit choice is, you will still have withdrawals. Good news is the physical w/d is 3 days/72 hours! You can do it!
You mentioned that you have the beginning of emphysema. I have COPD which is probably the same : ( Most of us here have quit have had health scares. It's a shame that we waited until then but at least we had the motivation.
Try reading some articles on whyquit.com There are great tips and stories there. Bottom line is just how determined you are to take back your life and not to be a slave to cigs. We are a great source of support but gather your family around and ask them to help. Tell everyone so they can hold you accountable should you start to waver on your decision.

After smoking for 40 years, I am quit and if I can do it, anyone can!

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3y 1w 2d 11:12 smoke-free, 24,315 cigs not smoked, $5,835.60 saved, 2m 3w 3d 10:15 life saved

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Thanks, I am going to need a lot of luck with it. Still trying to get hold of my doctor at the VA to give me some chantix. Worse case scenerio is that I can get my theropist (spelling?) to put me on the program when I see him Thursday. But going to try to start the quitting process tomorrow if I can.
Any advice you can offer me would be helpful. Did you have any (slip-ups) in the first few days when you quit or did the chantix help control that? I am hoping that I don't, but being realistic here, knowing myself quite well, I will need that extra help.
This is really hard on me, since I really had no plans on quitting until I got the news about my emphysema (yes, emphysema is one type of COPD).
Sorry about not understanding the grumpygirl/atomizer's situation, but that was long before I hopped onto the forums. Then again, everything has a reason...I wouldn't be posting on this forum had I not ran my search, so for me, it worked out.
Well, it is now just past midnight, I had what I hope is my last cigarette just minutes before the bewitching hour. I have the feeling tomorrow is going to be a very long day. LOL.
And with any luck, a good friend of mine on the internet has a perscription for chantix that he never used and is now planning on using it so we can quit together. Yeah, my sudden news of COPD has scared a few of my friends into thinking about quitting as well.
Once again, will keep you posted on how I am doing. Thanks for taking the time to give me encouragement.
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As much as you need to quit, you really have to want to or else, it just won't work. If you go into the quit already making excuses for a slip, then you will slip.

Chantix worked well for me, but there are some very negative things being said about it so I would REALLY do my homework. My cousin is using it now but he has serious medical issues and was also a first responder on 9-11. He is experiencing some side effects, minimal, but he also has pain all of the time.
If you can, try cold turkey. Even using chantix I had withdrawals for the 3 days when I put the smokes down. You have to prepare yourself mentally for it and the sooner you realize just how smoking has a hold of you, the sooner you can battle your demon. It's difficult, no lie, but it's completely doable!

One of my favorite articles at whyquit.com is:

My Cigarette, My Friend?"
by Joel Spitzer

How do you feel about a friend who has to go everywhere with you? Not only does he tag along all the time, but since he is so offensive and vulgar, you become unwelcome when with him. He has a peculiar odor that sticks to you wherever you go. Others think both of you stink.

He controls you totally. When he says jump, you jump. Sometimes in the middle of a blizzard or storm, he wants you to come to the store and pick him up. You would give your spouse hell if he or she did that to you all the time, but you can't argue with your friend. Sometimes, when you are out at a movie or play he says he wants you to go stand in the lobby with him and miss important scenes. Since he calls all the shots in your life, you go. Your friend doesn't like your choice of clothing either. Instead of politely telling you that you have lousy taste, he burns little holes in these items so you will want to throw them out. Sometimes, he tires of the furniture and gets rid of it too. Occasionally, he gets really nasty and decides the whole house must go.

He gets pretty expensive to support. Not only is his knack of property destruction costly, but you must pay to keep him with you. In fact, he will cost you thousands of dollars over your lifetime. And you can count on one thing, he will never pay you a penny in return.

Often at picnics you watch others playing vigorous activities and having lots of fun doing them. But your friend won't let you. He doesn't believe in physical activity. In his opinion, you are too old to have that kind of fun. So he kind of sits on your chest and makes it difficult for you to breathe. Now you don't want to go off and play with other people when you can't breathe, do you?

Your friend does not believe in being healthy. He is really repulsed by the thought of you living a long and productive life. So every chance he gets he makes you sick. He helps you catch colds and flu. Not just by running out in the middle of the lousy weather to pick him up at the store. He is more creative than that. He carries thousands of poisons with him which he constantly blows in your face. When you inhale some of them, they wipe out cilia in your lungs which would have helped you prevent these diseases.

But colds and flu are just his form of child's play. He especially likes diseases that slowly cripple you—like emphysema. He considers this disease great. Once he gets you to have this, you will give up all your other friends, family, career goals, activities—everything. You will just sit home and caress him, telling him what a great friend he is while you desperately gasp for air.

But eventually your friend tires of you. He decides he no longer wishes to have your company. Instead of letting you go your separate ways, he decides to kill you. He has a wonderful arsenal of weapons behind him. In fact, he has been plotting your death since the day you met him. He picked all the top killers in society and did everything in his power to ensure you would get one of them. He overworked your heart and lungs. He clogged up the arteries to your heart, brain, and every other part of your body. In case you were too strong to succumb to this, he constantly exposed you to cancer causing agents. He knew he would get you sooner or later.

Well, this is the story of your "friend," your cigarette. No real friend would do all this to you. Cigarettes are the worst possible enemies you ever had. They are expensive, addictive, socially unacceptable, and deadly. Consider all this and NEVER TAKE ANOTHER PUFF!

Joel

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Kathy,

Well cold turkey was a disaster for me. However, that same Tuesday, found I was entered into the smoking cessation program at the VA hospital on Thursday. Because of my anxiety meds, the doctor put me on the patch/lozenge program, then he sent me on my way telling me to start the patch/lozenge first thing Friday morning. BTW, the quit smoking doctor is an ex-smoker himself (took him 14 attempts to quit, but he did it). Really helped me feel comfortable with him, since he could honestly relate to how I felt and what I was going through.

Yesterday was quite an adventure for me. I woke up and headed to where I keep my cigarettes for my morning smoke, instead found a box of the patches waiting for me. I would be lying if I didn't think of it as some sort of cruel joke. Also sucked on a piece of candy to keep the mouth busy, but I'd better find some sugar free stuff too. 3 years ago I lost 45 pounds and really don't want to put all of that back on.

Somehow made it through the whole day without smoking. First time I did that since I was in the hospital with pneumonia.

I did find some times when I wanted to smoke more than others, some were expected, some were a surprise.

Times I most wanted a cig:
1. After Lunch & Dinner
2. When I woke up
3. After dealing with a stupid customer at my work (which is 90 percent of them).

Times I really didn't have an urge:
1. In car driving to work or home (no surprise, didn't smoke in the car anyways).
2. When doing the dishes or laundry
3. But the biggest surprise was after work, socializing with coworkers (most of them smoke) and they were smoking and I didn't have an want for one.

Of course, they all know I have quit and I even told the person most likely to give me a cigarette not to give me one, no matter how much I asked (had to single him out, since we do golf together).

Coworkers all know I am trying to quit and been very supportive to me. A number of the customers know as well (one of them is starting the Chantix on Monday, so I will have a buddy joining me in the quit smoking effort.

A number of my friends online also smoke and they are encouraging me to quit (Some of them are so shook up over me finding out that I had very mild emphysema, that they are also considering quitting).

Woke up this morning same as yesterday. Found the box of patches and put one on. Talked to some friends online where they asked me how I did yesterday. Then decided to check on here and give you the update. One day smoke free, hopefully many more to come.
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Quitting was, without a doubt, the hardest thing I have ever done and yet, the most rewarding.
I am very happy to hear that you didn't give up after your first attempt failed and it does truly help to know and talk with others that have been where you are at now. Perhaps you can find some successful quitters as your mentors? And to hang out with a bunch of smokers! Wow, I could ever do that! I was one of the last in my group of friends to quit though there are still two, but I couldn't really be in closed quarters with them or any smokers. My state is a indoor smoke free state and that was very helpful for me.

The best advice I can offer and it was what was told to me, is to exercise, take long walks, keep yourself busy and every time you feel the need or get an urge, go on the whyquit website and read an article. I guarantee, by the time you finish, the urge will have passed. Carrot sticks and celery will help with oral fix : )
Keep in touch and stay strong. It will be well worth it, especially when you start to feel the benefits of your quit!
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About to finish my 3rd day without smoking. It hasn't been easy. One near nervous break-down and 5 pounds gained already, I do hope this gets a bit easier or I will either end up in the looney bin or having to wear a circus tent. Still plugging away though, even made it through my golf round with my friend (who smokes) without asking for one---though will admit, I wanted to. Well, off for tonight and will check in again in a few days. Thanks for your support.
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Well congrats on making in through day 3, that's the tough part! The physical withdrawal is pretty much over so now you have to prepare yourself for the emotional part.
Over time we come to associate certain things in our life as more enjoyable with a smoke. Meals, waking up, stress, hanging out, with drinks, on the phone.......these are the things that we must work on and try to break free from. For me, that cigarette after meals was the toughest. While on chantix I changed up my pattern by eating before the meal, trying to undo that mental association to meal and pleasure in my head. I think those are the toughest to break but can be done and in fairly short time! You can do it too, just breathe deep when you are feeling overwhelmed, take a walk : ) and remember that you are in charge of your life and you won't let a cigarette dictate it for you!
As for weight, it will stablize in a few months, don't waste time worrying as it only adds to your stress.
Hang tough!
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Vaping (electronic cigarettes,) are NOT smoking. There is a lot of mis-information out there. My son, myself and twelve of my friends have quit  smoking in the past three months with no problem using these devices. It is simply another method of nicotine delivery but gives the ex-smoker time to adjust while maintaining the oral fixation and ritual involved with cigarettes.
PLEASE educate yourselves as millions of lives are at stake. Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarettes and look for yourselves. e-cigs are 1000 times safer than cigarettes and have NONE of the carcinogenics found in cigarettes. Again, it is a nicotine delivery system like the inhaler, but psychologically it makes the transition so much easier. I will never smoke again, thank God I did my research. PLEASE don't equate "vaping," with smoking they are NOT the same thing.
Most sincerely
Tracy
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i think e cigarete is a great way to eliminate smoking...
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Will it work while on Chantix?  I seem to be under dosed  I'm on day 7 and just finished the starter week. No difference though I am motivated.
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