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Interesting Info I received today for pregnant women
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This Debate Group encourages lively/healthy discussion about the Pro's & Con's relating to the Swine (H1N1) Flu Vaccine. The FDA approved the Swine Flu Vaccine ... Will you be getting it? ---- Is it safe? NO PERSONAL ATTACKS ---- please, keep it a healthy debate!

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Interesting Info I received today for pregnant women

So I think I have mentioned before that the organization I work for is very involved in the pandemic planning for our province (I live in Alberta Canada).  I am therefor lucky enough to get almost daily updates on the latest CDC recommendations for pregnant women and H1N1.  Here is the latest..

Women over 20 weeks can go ahead and receive the H1N1 vaccine without having to wait until the thermisol free version comes out (here where I live thermisol free is not available for another 2 weeks or so)

Women under 20 weeks should wait until thermisol free is available.

It is now considered completely safe to receive seasonal flu vaccine and H1N1, even at the same time.

I had my seasonal today and will be getting H1N1 (with thermisol) towards the end of the week.  

Again, these are CDC recommendations, just posting as they came out.  Good luck everyone on whatever you decide!!
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Hi Adgal,

THANKS for the up to the minute info!

I've been swamped and unable to keep up with the posts ... so everyone, feel free to jump right in and post the updates!

C~
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9mh9f_swine-flu-1976-propaganda_webcam

Good INFO for the BRAIN

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/03/What-We-Have-Learned-About-the-Great-Swine-Flu-Pandemic.aspx
Good Luck everyone it is a hard Choice, however  though the swine flu may be real, that does not mean these vaccines are safe, my suggestsion, a-ask your dr what is in them, im sure he does not know, b. see if the dr or schools, govt will write you a letter telling you that this vaccine is 100 safe, even 99%, they wont. They have made mistakes with the past swine vaccine and recently the gardisil, and it worries me that this was so rushed that it is possibly going to have very bad effects later on in life, not now. Please i encourage all to check out these two videos in order and then do your research later on google, to see that the people are real. GOOD LUCK ALL, and remember just because a Dr says to jump doesn't mean you say how high. All dr will tell you something diff, but ultimatly they do not know a lot about Neurology, and do work for a higher figure!
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Also remember the CDC is the one who was dead wrong and made up lies the first time. I dont really trust them....I wrote them a letter asking them how they know people even have swine flu since they are not testing for it. Seems odd. They wrote me back a letter confirming they do not test unless you are really sick, basicly a lot of people being reported with Swine have something else.
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I actually do feel very confident it is safe.  It is the same vaccine as the seasonal flu, the only change being the dna strand used (which is dead).  Every year the seasonal changes this way as well as that flu mutates every year.  It is proven safe for use, including in pregnant women.  Numerous studies have been done over the course of many years.  Getting H1N1 is however, very dangerous for pregnant women.  That is a proven fact.  And the majority of Dr.s are giving the same message...advising pregnant women to get the vaccine.  Our bodies do not have immunity for this and we are in the high risk group for complications.  I have had the vaccine and had no problems, with the exception of a sore arm for 2 days.  My OB had it, her daughter had it.  All the Dr.s I work with have had it, including one that is pregnant and due not long after I am.  They have all had their children vaccinated.  There is absolutely no factually based evidence that the vaccine is harmful.
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From what i understand it has not mutated at all like they thought. And also from what i hear it is def not the same vaccine as the reg flu shot, but im going to do my research more before i put that in stone. It is only proven to be safe as a hear say, no dr or school or dept of the cdc will put anything in writing stating it is 100 safe. I know only because a women i was talking to didnt want her kids to get it, so they left her alone when she asked can you please put it in writting, they can not and will not do that, not to mention if you ask most dr what is in the shot they will not be able to tell you, there is a lot of stuff in it, a long list from what i hear. We can go back and forth and to each their own, i only advice people to check out the links on my web site and make their  descion from there. Also research who the people in the link are, as i did and make sure they are real drs. and check out the 60 min clip on how the cdc has been sadly mistake with the last Swine Flu vaccine. Also the issue is not how you feel after the shot it is what the long term effects are! If you are looking for proof from the govt or cdc who controls the shot that it is harmful you wont, and the drs only know as much as they are told so they are not to blame, all my research has been from a few Neorsurgeons, since  we are talking about possible brain problems later on in life, a obgyn would not know about that, and i do think they think it is harmless. Good luck all!!
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I think you would have trouble having any Dr., pharmacist, the FDA or CDC putting in writing that any drug is 100% safe.  I have not had a medication, Dr. administered or over the counter that has not had a list of "possible" side effects. Some have a bad reaction to Tylenol, yet it is safe for the majority of us.  Of course there are some that will have trouble with this or any other vaccine.  And yes, the seasonal flu mutates annually. New flu's arrive every year.  We can only be vaccinated against those they know about.  Yes, you can still catch influenza after being vaccinated. However, common sense dictates that if many are getting sick from something and few are getting sick from the vaccine, you should be vaccinated.  Some should not receive this vaccine, I have no doubt.  Penecillian is a widely recognized antibiotic and considered safe, including in pregnancy. But we know some are allergic.  There is no such thing as a drug that is 100% safe for everyone.  I don't care if it's cough syrup or anything else.  
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Even 98% safe i would go for.
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And are those possible side effects paralisis or autism? Did you ever get a chance to listen to the interview with Dr Blaylock on the link i listed, he states that this new virus has not mutated as stated. Im not meaning to go back and forth with you, i just do not trust that the govt and cdc do not neglect certain sittuations when it comes to our best health interest. And this has been proven in the past to be true, and i cant help but to think that the links i listed just make too much sense to ignore, including the fact that pregnant women are not a high risk. And that it effects pregnant womens immune systems negativley. You have some good points. but since they do not know what it is exactly that is making people react diff they i do not think they should be so quick to give it to everyone. And again i do not believe it is the same vaccine as the reg one. Take a look at those links and tell me what you think. Have a good one!
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