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How many rounds of IVF do you attempt after 5th try at age 45?

Hello everyone! I am 45 years old and I just tried a 5th round of IVF with my own eggs with no success.  Has anyone my age or older tried IVF with their own eggs as many times as I have had? I don't know if I should continue or just give up.  My husband is not talking very much about what we just went through which makes me think that he might be done but I am afraid to ask. I would appreciate your input.
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Hi...I am 43 and have been through 4 IVF cycles...I will continue trying as long as I can afford it and as long as I can take it emotionally and physically....It's like a jackpot, you never know when you are chances are better than the last time...

Brooke Shields was successful after her 7th attempt...I know someone who was successful after her 9th attempt and another on her 10th attempt. Jane Seymour went through "nuemrous" IVF cycles and had twins at 45 and of course we have Celine Dion who was successful after 8 cycles....Marcia Cross also at 45...

With these celebrities, we don't really know their real age! But the fact that they have had unsuccessful cycles and then ended up giving birth to singletons and multiples does indicate that there is a chance to be successful!

I am at this point now that I don't even obssess about it and don't even have that much side effects after the injectables, just because I am not so emotionally involved as I was in the past...I am able to stay calm and adopt an attitude that it WILL happen...it's just a matter of time....with each cycle, my hcg do get higher...the nurses think that my body finally recognises the embryos and have started accepting them..I don't know if this is true but I accept any positive statements that helps my mind believe that it will happen!!!!!! LOL!

I think it will also help if you speak to your husband...you need to be in this journey together...I went through the painful discussion with my husband...it was tough for him seeing me go through all the pain, to the point he felt enough was enough but I convinced him that I will stop when I can no longer bear it....we have also discussed adoption, which we hope to do whether I am successful or not....the discussion will reduce the stress for the both of you...It's a tough journey for our husbands too....

Hope this helps a little!

SSBD to you!
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Hi,

I just came across your posting.  I'm 44 years old and starting my 6th IVF cycle.  I had one successful IVF which produced 1 embryo, now frozen in the bank.  I'm trying to get one more before I have surgery on 12/15.  I have a very large fibroid in my uterus that needs to be removed before we go ahead with implantation.  

Everyone is different, and although a lot of these older celebrities are getting pregnant, what they are not telling truthfully is that many of their embryos were frozen years ago.  Not all of them, but a good handful of them.  So its hard to say they are successful with their own eggs at their present age.  But you never know, some feel as long as your producing eggs still, why not?  I only produce one egg a cycle.  So my chances of getting another good embryo will be a miracle.  I do try to stay positive, but after 4 IUI"S, and going on the 6th IVF, sometimes its difficult.  

You really should talk with your husband if you can.  It's important to be on the same page and to communicate openly about all your concerns, worries and the possiblity of continuing your treatments.  

Good luck to you in whatever you decide.  I was ready to use donor eggs two cycles ago, but my RE wanted to keep trying with my own, so I gave it a shot.  Because of that, I have one good one.  

All of us ladies here understand everything you are feeling, so feel free to reach out when you need to.
Best of luck to you,
Joann
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Thank you ladies! Reading your posts brought tears to my eyes. It was wonderful to hear your perspective.  I appreciate the advise.  I hope much success for you in your journey.

P.S. - Can someone explain what these acronyms stand for:
RE
AF
BB
BFN
BFP
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This is what I think:
RE - reproductive endocrinologist
AF aunt flow (menses)
BB don't know
BFN big fat negative (test shows no pregnancy) :(
BFP big fat positive (test shows you are pregnant)! :)

Enjoy!
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Unfortunately I didn't get pregnant after my first IVF attempt two weeks ago on 12/19.  I'm 44 years old and had two failed IUIs in the spring and summer of 2010.  This cycle produced 1 embryo.  I planned to use donor eggs for my next cycle but after reading journey2motherhood's post, think I'll try to see if I can get another embryo after talking with my RE.

Best of luck to you all and happy new year!
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I am 45 years old and have tried IVF for 3 time with no luck. both of my tubes were closed. and my RE was always so discouraging that after my 3rd IVF he wrote the report that he does not recommend further IVF ,though i had 6 embryos for my 1st IVF, 4 for 2nd and 3 for 3rd IVF. he did not even willing to do laparoscopy to open the tubes. I had it done from outside of the country and now I don't know what to do . should I only try natural TTC or look for another Dr who can do IVF for me?...pl advise
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You could call around to other clinic's in your area.  It wouldn't hurt to ask.  You never know what they will say if you don't.  
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Hi Hon...like you, I have done quite a few rounds!! but I am not close to giving up....as long as I can afford it, even if I end up using all of my savings...I am 43 years old, will be 44 in 6 months...

I always end up with good embryos but have implantation issues....mainly due I think to chromosome abnormalities....I suspect that at our age, its a matter of finding the right eggs....so why not look around for another doctor?

Someone at my clinic was successful after 10 times!  and after that was able to concieve (conceive) again on her 2nd cycle...

If you want to stop trying because it's getting too difficult, physically and emotionally.... I can understand.....but don't stop trying because of your doctor!

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Apart from the cost of IVF and all the added stress that comes with it all,its entirely up to ourselves to decide to carry on or not.We can all give advice and help hoping that it offers some sort of comfort but really,honestly,the only person who can make that decision is ourself.But if it was me and i was 45 and had went through numerous IVFs then i would honestly give up.I think you need a line where you need to stop and my line has unfortunately come to an end.But i wish you all the best of luck in what you decide to do love and best wishes Bev xx
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I just wanted to add... you don't have to "give up" per say, you could always look to donor eggs or embryos.  It's just another possible way to become a mom.  You get to carry the child, and you get to reap the benefits of becoming a mom, either the first time, or again.  
I know it isn't for everyone, but, it is an option.
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I agree that it's a personal decision regarding whether we should continue to pursue our dreams or not. As for me, I've been through clomid treaments, 2 etopic pregnancies and 3 IVF cycles. 1st cycle resulting in an angel baby at 16weeks, 2nd cycle failed and last cycle resulting in pregnancy. It's defintely been an emotional rollercoaster but at 41, I know what I want. I knew what I was getting my self into when I started this process and its been extremely difficult sometimes but somehow, it's become alot easier to deal with because of the ladies on this site. The support I have found from the women on this site has been extremely helpful and refreshing especially as I was going through my miscarriage.

I would say pursue your dreams with reasonable expectations and don't obsess. Stay positive and expect something good to happen. Know your body and make sure you are receiving the best treatment plan for your therapy. Check into other options. Check out the failed and success stories and why they worked or didn't work out. It's not enough to dish out money to the RE's. We have to take ownership. Have a plan B or C and don't give up until you're ready.

A the moment, I don't have a set time to stop but I defintely will not bankrupt myself emotionally or financially. My RE stop's using my own eggs at 45. I have a sister who is 15 years my junior who has volunteered her eggs if needed so I guess I'll continue on until my heart tells me otherwise.
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Well said.  I also have heard of a place in Colorado that specializes in "older IVF" and has great success rates.  I have heard it's very expensive, but if you would be willing to travel, and want the best... it may be worth looking into I think it's around 20,000 for a round But they have Very High success rates for women over 40.  It is CCRM (Colorado Center for Reproductive Medicine).
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I think they may be worth checking out.I'm going to check them out online.
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I was really impress with there stats, they are great for your age group (your young : )  ).... let me know what you think!
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My heart just melts for you. But please do not give up your dream of being a natural mom, carrying your baby, and pushing them out into life. It is the best most wonderfullest experience in the world.
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Hi Ladies I am new to this group. I share your pain and frustration. This is such a difficult journey. I am 40 and had 3 rounds of IVFs and 1IUI. I am at the point that I am tired of all the hormone injections. I started acupunture with herbal drinks a months ago.  When I brought my medical records to the acupuncturist (who specializes in infertility treatment), she pointed out that this particular fertility center I went to seemed to focuse on quantity over quality. When I had my egg retrival at 37, they retrieved 20 and froze 12 embryos, but all failed. I am still not giving up the dream of being a natural mom. Has anyone tried acupunture with good results? We have "unexplainable" infertility.
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Hi everyone!

I was wondering...

Are there options for paying for IVF?? My insurance doesn't cover the cost. I had a consultation with an infertility specialist and found out that it will cost me 12000.00 (they want 6000.00 down). I don't have that kind of money or credit. I'm 40 and I have no children yet.

Is there any funding programs/grants/etc for someone like me? I feel as though life just won't be complete until I have my own baby. :(

Any information will be appreciated....HELP!
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Hi Ladies,

DFBB,  Welcome to our group! There are many women that do seem to benefit from accupunture.  I'm sure you will hear from those who felt it helped them.  I haven't tried it and to be honest probably won't.  It's just at this point, I don't think it will make much of a difference for me.  It is difficult and frustrating to go through this, but if you can try to see another RE - maybe there are different protocols you can try.  Hang in there! Just remember all of us are hear for you.

Miss_Amy_2009, I just came across a clinical trial yesterday at the center I am going to.  Unfortunately I do not qualify for it, but for those of you who are interested in it, the only cost is your pretests, after that IVF is completely free.  They are located in NYC, and they do work with out of state patients if you're willing to travel.  It's called the New Hope Clinical Trial, NY.  There are also a lot of other places that do these trials, and yes offer grants, you just have to really research where they are and what they offer.  I've been lucky that my husbands insurance has covered everything.  It's difficult enough when you having trouble ttc, but when you add finances on top of that, its more difficult.  I wish you the best of luck in your journey, and I'm sure a lot of women will answer your question as well.  We are all here for each other.

Take care, Joann
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Hi Ladies,

Its so heartbreaking to read all of your stories and personally know how your heart feels with all your hopes and dreams and disappointments.

I just wanted to give you all some encouragement because so many people on here gave it to me when I needed it most.

I am 43 y/o - will be 44 in July.    I'm currently 25 weeks pg with a healthy little boy (my own egg).    I started ttc with my new dh when I was 41.    I have a 9 y/o little girl from a previous marriage and he had no children.   He is 39 y/o.     We were 37 and 41 when we started trying and my fsh was 13, his morphology was 9%, vs the 14% they like.   We tried for 6 months on our own, did get pg once, but the beta numbers never doubled.   We then went to the fertility clinic and got in gratefully with an awesome RE.   He told me that since I still ovulated regularly that my chances of still having a good egg left were good.   We just had to play the numbers game and wait for that one good egg.   The SH number was a little high, but he still thought we stood a great chance.   We agreed that he would be brutally honest with me and only spend my money on things that "really worked".    We started immediately on femara (which works better for older women than clomid) and gonal-f injections.   The theory was to bring more follies to the party each month to better increase our chances.   I went thru 3 cycles of this with IUI and nothing happened.   I was set up for my 4th IUI on christmas eve of 2009 but due to a snow storm couldn't make it in.    We did our "homework" at home and amazingly enough...I got pg :).   February 14 however I had a m/c :(.      I then tried 2 more cycles with the meds and IUI and....nothing.    I then started acupuncture because I had developed cysts from the meds.   I went to acupuncture every week for a LLOOOOOONG time.     July of 2010 I was so frustrated that I looked into donor eggs.    My emotional strength had finally given out and I knew I desperately wanted my dh to have his own child.   If this was the only way I could give him this gift, I was completely willing to do it.    We selected a donor, however were in the middle of a cycle, so I told my dh that as soon as this cycle was done, we would start to get in sync with the donor.    I went in for my CD 10 u/s, and was told that I had an extremely thin lining and a huge 39mm cyst on my right ovary.   I did have 2 follies on my left, but the RE who was always soooo positive, said "it doesn't look good".     I'd never had a bad cycle before, I always had great lining and lots of follies, but no luck.    I went home, threw everything away, declined to do an IUI and released all the stress from my heart and looked forward for once for AF to arrive.   2 weeks passed, I had all the symptoms that she was coming, however I had a very strange feeling in my heart the day she was due, so I got up, took a test and had 2 dark pink lines.    No one was more shocked than me.     I then assumed that I would m/c like always and this was only prolonging my donor situation.

Well 25 weeks have gone by, a great CVS test result, and I'm cherishing every single day and every single moment of morning sickness, sort BB's, leg cramps, and weight gain.

Looking back on everything, I had 5 IUI's with no results.   The 3 times we tried the "ol fashioned way", it worked.   I know that's strange statistically, but its what happened for me.    

Ladies......this CAN happen to you too.

Futuremama2010 said it best....its like a jackpot, you never know when that next cycle is "the ONE".    

I wish there was a magic pill, or a magic herb, or a magic treatment......there isn't.    Its just time and patience.   We all know how to do this, its just the magical moment when the sperm meets the egg.    If I could have had a crystal ball a year ago when I was so devestated to see how my life would turn out this year, it would have made things so much easier.    I do think bringing more eggs each month did increase my chances and I think the accupuncture was key to getting my whole system....just healthier and more efficient.  

I just wanted to try to give you all just one more cycle of faith and encouragment....cause it just might be "the One" for you.

Best of luck to all of you, may you all be blessed in 2011 :)
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journey2motherhood,

Thank you for the information. I completed the application for the New Hope Clinical Trial, but for whatever reason, did not qualify. :(

*sigh* I'm starting to lose hope that I may not be able to live a full life with the family that I've always dreamed about...ugh! I will keep researching...

I am grateful for any information that anyone can contribute to this post.

Thanks,

Amy
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Hi Amy,

I'm sorry you didn't qualify but please don't let that stop you from moving forward.  There has to be more programs out there, you just have to really research them.  I know Shady Grove has a program that I believes offer a money back guarantee - someone on this board should be able to give you more information on that.  

Is there anyone that could maybe help Amy out with better information than I can give her?  

Amy - never give up on your dream! Alexis was kind enough to share her story with us and she gave us all some hope that this can happen for us as well.  

Hang in there!
Joann
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journey2motherhood,

Thank you for the encouragement...I need it, as my biological clock is ticking and I have no resources as of yet.

I will hang in there and do some more searching...and if I find anything informative, I will definitely post it here to share.

Thanks again,

Amy
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My first attempt at IVF has till now shown BFN in HPT and today is day 15, after 3 embryos, (day 2, 4 cell embryos) transfer on Jan 1st. I used Donor Eggs which I have read increase the chances of success quite dramatically.

My first Blood test is scheduled for the 19th. I noticed it is mostly day 14 so no idea why day 18 was chosen by my clinic - but I am going to keep hoping until it is clearly a negative after the blood test. I am 46 and I do plan to try again. I don't know if I will stop trying ever.

I think it might help to see another RE.
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I'm devastated, im 29, done 2 cycles ivf n failed to implant, but I'm not giving up, but I will try next year, 2014, this year I want doctor to do lapcroscope.
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hello,  I'm 45 almost 46 and had my rubes tied in 2004.  I have 4 kids and am now newly married to awesome man and would love to have a child with him as he has none. I'm going crazy not knowing what is best to do. I've been researching tubal reversal for months and also ivf,  I'm soooo confused on what's best. I now found these posts also and at least you all know what I'm feeling
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