Hey! Hi everyone, I actually remembered about tonight!! My badk had been hurting pretty bad today, it was fine up untill I took my dogs for a walk, and then it just started seizing up on me, so now I am sitting here with my trusty laptop and a heating pad... So how is everyone?
Thanks Molly!! good to be here. Dame, I have a question for you, you don't have to answer if you don't want too, but I was reading your other post and was wondering what happened with the Excederin? Did you OD ?
My neurologist has recommended to me last time i was there, when he perscribed the Fentanyl that I should get an epidoral shot in my back, I am seriously scared of needles, has anyone had this done? is it the same thing as a nerve block?
I thought that life as I knew it was over....I tried to switch from the Fentanyl to Suboxone and see if I couldn't manage my pain that way...well, I ended up in a hospital room the next day and couldn't remeber a lot of it...It was scary
I thought I was reading that you had a bad experience with Excedrin migraine? I take that as weel for migraines. Sometimes I need something stronger, like Treximet.. but those are so expensive, even with ins. paying!!
I have had the epidural shots and they were not too bad. They gave me some sedatives and numbed up the area so didn't really feel any pain at all. Was a little stiff and sore for a few days but other then that, it didn't help my pain.
yeah, Excedrin has acetominaphen in it, along with caffeine and some other stuff. You really need to be careful how often/much you take of any OTC med, just like any prescribed thing. They just didn't explain that to me in time.
huh.. .maybe i won't get the epidoral shots then.. I am very leary about it bacause about a year ago, I had cortisoid shots in my back and all those did was cause MORE pain than i was already in! And when I told the PM doctor who administered them, she just shrugged and said "well, the pain isn't prom the shot, I don't know what caused it " I couldn't even walk my legs hurt so bad!!
Evening all,posting from my Blackberry at Costco. Just had a less than pleasant steroid injection in my left elbow. Picking up prescriptions, may not be able to keep up between my big fat thumbs and the rubbish 3g coverage here. I'm at 6/10. Pain, with my elbow bloody throbbing. Can't wait to get home from some dinner of percocet. Hope u r all as well as can be expected?
They are doing it in the nerves coming out of L4-L5-S1 and anywhere else they can fish around in and find something that produces pain and then numb it. Then if that works I will go in for a nerve burning. From what I've read most people just have the nerves grow back or other ones take over. But atleast my little pmp is a sweetie and will enjoy my jokes (and cussing) while he does it!
Brian...SO SORRY to read of ALL the pain and unpleasantness:-( I hope they hurry up and home is SOON for you. Have a restful night plus a soothing bath. We'll talk with you soon. Julie:-) Oh, BE CAREFUL and STAY SAFE!!!!!!!
yeah, my doc's older and more conservative when it comes to opiods. It's frustrating because I fell that Demerol helps the pain more than anything else I've tried. So when the pain gets that bad, I end up going to the ER and getting an IV of it.
OK, so here it goes.....My Story of what happened with the Suboxone.....
As you know, I have been using the Fent.Patch for over a year now. I started at 75mcg's and crept up to 100mcg's over that year. Now mind you, I don't quite know what was going through my head at the time...well in part I do. I was so tired of my Husband and Son telling me that the Fentanyl was ruining just about everything about me. My Son and I had a discussion about whether or not I could live with a lesser pain med and I thought..well maybe I could. I've never tried. At that point, my Son had offered me some Suboxone to ease the w/d's and steer me in a different direction. ( possibly just Oxycodone would be enough).....man, what was I thinking.....
last Wednsday during the morning hours I took the patch off and started the process. (keep in mind that my Doctor knew nothing about this).
The day went quite well, nothing major to speak of and even into the night was alright. I awoke around 9am and still felt alright and then early evening fell and I was beginning to get pretty uncomfortable. I decided that it was time to take the first Suboxone Tab. 8mg sublingual. An hour went by and still felt horrible so I took another 4mg. MISTAKE!
The Suboxone set in gear high speed w/d's....everything all at once. My skin was burning so bad that I was tearing at it. I couldn't breath very well, I was shaking so bad that I could not get up, everything was blurry, the sweat was streaming down my face and I was screaming in pain. Thank God that my Husband was here. He called 911 and the Paramedics were here in minutes. At that time, my BP was 200/110 and my heart rate was 140. They didn't take time to assess me, they just whisked me off in the Ambulance and the driver went a high speed. It felt like the cot was going to come rolling over around every corner. This next part is when everything started to get really bad...and I thought what I'd already gone through was bad enough.
Upon entering the ER I started convulsing....it weird because I knew what was going on, I just couldn't stop it. I managed to vomit and then proceed to soil myself...how embarrassing. I wasn't given drugs to counter act my W/d until my drug test came back from the lab. I had told them that I don't do street drugs but they wanted to make sure. As I had said...it came back clean. I was then given drugs to stop the w'd's. They gave me Ativan, Narcan, more Ativan and finally Fentanyl. I don't remember the rest.
I awoke the next morning in a private room feeling exhausted and run over by a truck. The Doctors had evidently put 125mcg patch on my back to bring me back up to speed. I was given 5 patches and quite a bit of 15mg Oxycodone and sent home.
NOW....I have to face my Doctor. OMG...what is he going to say? I can't even fathom it. I have asked my Mom to go with me to help explain my family circumstances and why I did what I did. Oh, my Mother and my Husband also ripped my Son a new *******. I guess it wasn't really his fault...I took the Suboxone.
So there my friends. That's the story. I was told by the ER Doctor that the Fentayl is such a potent drug that the w/d's are from Fentanyl are the worst he's ever seen. He said that he would NEVER prescribe it to his patients unless they were end stage cancer patients. Somehow, I believe him......I am now going to ask my Doctor to get me off of the Fentanyl and put me on a pain med that's not so dangerous. I can live with a little added pain.
My Primary is an older guy, in fact he has been my parents doctor ever since he started practiciing, he's a good Dr. don't get me wrong, but he does not care for my neurologist bcause he thinks he gives out the narcotice a little to liberally... But I day, he's just understanding about my pain.. He suffers from Migraines as well, so he knows something about what I am going thru!
Oh wow you did have a horrible sudden w/d! Yeah that sounds like an instant Narcan injection. I used to be a paramedic and when we found heroin overdoes we gave them narcan. Give a little too much and instant W/D! which wasn't pretty
I can't blame you there. The IMPORTANT things we do for our children are worth the pain we experience. I felt SO MUCH pain in my neck for so many years just to see and experience the joy with my children. EVERY second was worth it:-)
I'm still on the Fentanyl....My Doctor was very cool about it. He knew that I had poor judgement on that day. We talked for about an hour and he kept my meds about the same.
He wants me to decide what I want to do next, either stay at my dose or reduce...it's up to me
My last time in they suggested I should decrease down for a bit and then up it so I'm not soo tolerate. Or just start weaning down and trying something else. I'm going to talk more about it with him on the 3rd with my procedure as I really want off the stuff.. 75 lbs lighter now and still going. I'm the incredible shrinking woman!
i'm born ans raised in Wisconsin, used to hate it here, but now, I can't imaging living anywhere else, well I've always wanted to live in Seattle, cause it rains there alot, and ILOVE the gloomy weather
I do not want to say anything to scare you. My previous Pain Management doc was NOT good! I just changed Pain Management doctors because of nerve blocks AND a 4 nerve burn in my neck he did that has caused MORE damage:-( I just got a CT scan last Thursday and MRI both with and without contrast. I see the new Pain Management doctor and her husband who is an Orthopedic and Neurologist Surgeon this Thursday. I have seen them once already and they were AMAZING, so far. As long as you have confidence in your physician and know he/she is knowledgeable about what in the world they are doing, I say GREAT! I just pray for no more pain!!!!!!!!!!
you know what bothers me? I have been married to my husband for 2.5 years, and he has never ONCE asked me about my accident, I mean, he knows about it, but he has never asked, same goes for my family, they don't ask, it makes me feel like they don't care, like it wasn't a big deal,
I want to talk with them about it, I don't want to keep it bottled up, for 10 years, can you believe no one as asked me to talk about it? isn't it natural to get that stuff out there, and talk about what happened? I have 10years of emotion and feelings bottled up, and no one cares..
I am So Sorry I missed this discussion last night. I really want to attend these open discussions. 7PM is an awful time for me. We eat a late supper and than there is Dad's after dinner meds and treatments. I am never free to 8PM. But next week I will do my best to rearrange my schedule so I can be here.
Molly you are close but I do not live in Reedsburg, Wisconsin. I live on a beautiful Lake between La Valle and Mauston, Wisconsin. I am just 20 minutes from Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin. The Waterpark Capitol of the USA.
Dustybrown is from the Milwaukee, WI area also. And Missing_me is also from Madison, WI. There are several more but their screen names escape me. So there are a lot of us Wisconsinites on this and the PM Forum.
It is a Winter Wonderland here today. The snow is gently falling on the majestic pines out side my sliding glass doors with the lake as a back drop, it is breathtakingly beautiful!!!!
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