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Has anyone else experienced a reaction similar to mine on a very low dose of Synthroid? If so, what was the outcome? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
It sounds like you are experiencing some hyper symptoms.
Some of us are very sensitive to thyroid meds and have to start off at a very low dose and increase at a snail's pace. My last increase was 6.5 mcg, but it drove me right over the edge to hyper. My endo told me not to take anything for three days and then resume my former dose. If you're 1) over 50, OR 2) have been hypo for a long time, or 3) have a history of cardiac arrythmia, 12.5 to 25 mcg is the recommended starting dose.
Do you know what the actual numbers were for your free T3, free T4 (and FT3 and FT4 reference ranges) and TSH before starting Synthroid? The two possibilities here are that 25 mcg was too high for an initial dose, or that it's too high for you period.
Were you having hypo symptoms before starting on Synthroid?
Some people also find that switching brand names alleviates some of the side-effects. Fillers seem to be the culprit there.
Goolara has made some valid points but a long time ago, I discovered that the jittery, anxious feeling you get when Hyper, can also be from hypo too.
Most think that the fast heartrate and the anxiety (panic attack type stuff) is from hyper when in actual fact, I have felt them both ends of the scale....both hyper and hypo.
The only difference being that when Hypo I ache like Hell and when Hyper, I could clean the house in 1/2 hr flat.
If it is the Synthroid, you would start to feel better by the 2nd day of the missed dose.
See yr Doc and see what he/she says.
Goolarra, I am 30 years old and have suspected that I am hypothryoid for a long time (since finishing college). My great-grandma, grandma, and mom are all hypothyroid as well. Previous bloodwork 2 years ago resulted in everything being in normal ranges according to the doctor but he didn't quote any numbers at that time and I was shy about asking. Things started getting bad in September of 2008 and kept getting worse. I had pretty much every symptom of hypothyroidism with the exception of the fingernails being dry and brittle. In Dec/Jan I started noticing alot more hair in my hairbrush and in the shower drain. I told myself it must be the new brand of shampoo and conditioner I was using. I started my period in mid-January (after having skipped a few in late 2008) and was still bleeding in mid-April. That's 12 weeks of constant non-stop bleeding!! I kept putting off going to the doctor, because I told myself it would stop anyday now. Finally in mid-April, I became so weak and fatigued and could no longer deal with the bleeding, so I went to both my PCP and OB-GYN.
My PCP did a bunch of bloodwork and called me a few days later and said, "Hey, how are you doing? No wait, don't answer that. I can tell you how you are feeling based on the bloodwork ..... You feel like ****!" He went on to tell me that the bloodwork showed I was hypothyroid. He said my free T4 was low. He quoted the value and acceptable range, but I cannot remember it exactly. I just know it was below the acceptable range. I know he tested the TSH, but he didn't mention it and I failed to ask because the conversation quickly transitioned into treatment with Synthroid. 25 mcg Synthroid to start and I was to come back in 6 weeks for follow-up bloodwork.
The first 2 weeks on Synthroid I felt nothing, good or bad. The 3rd week I started feeling more mentally "clear" and could focus and concentrate better and felt a little more energy. I was thinking, hey ... this stuff is really helping. When I reached the 4 week point, that is when all the problems started as described above. I last took it on Saturday, which would have been 5 weeks and 1 day on Synthroid.
Since skipping Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday I am feeling better. I actually slept last night for 9 hrs (much needed). So I definitely think it is the Synthroid pushing me hyper. It still seems odd for such a small dose, but perhaps I am just super sensitive to it. Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to call the doc today. While I don't want to take it and feel like ****, I was definitely seeing some benefits at 3 weeks. At this point I am torn about whether to keep taking it. Perhaps 12.5 mcg will do much better for me.
I am definitely in the "extremely sensitive" category, too. It may be that you could eventually end up taking 25 mcg (or even more), but that you just have to start very low and increase very slowly. You have to give your body a chance to adjust to the "new" hormone.
I also feel that I was probably slightly hypo for a very long time...like I came out of the womb that way! And, suffice it to say, that's over 50 years ago. Since I've been on levo for the past year and a half, I feel in some ways better than I felt all my life. For instance, I've maintained my weight since being on levo...never before could I do that for even a month.
I fit all three of the categories above for starting out on a low dose. My PCP started me at 88 mcg....yikes! That lasted about two weeks, and I started having side effects. PCP lowered the dose to 44 mcg. Two weeks later and down to 25mcg and I still had side effects. I know the 25 still bothered me...don't know how much the residual 88 and 44 affected that. Then I got on something to counter the levo side effects(I was starting to go slightly crazy) and started building very, very slowly - it took me a year to get to my current dose of 75 mcg. I'm still not ready for 88!!!
Talk to your doctor, and see how he feels about cutting you back to 12.5. After five weeks, you can repeat the bloodwork, see how you're feeling, and try a slight increase then if you and your labwork feel you need it. Don't wait too long to get back on meds. You don't want to start feeling hypo again. Slow and steady will get you there.
Yes, I have Hashi's too, and I'm sure that contributes. Our thyroids periodically decide they want to work for a minute or, worse yet, "dump" some extra hormones. However, I think there's also something to just being extraordinarily sensitive to thyroid meds Smilerdeb doesn't have Hashi's, and she's unbelievably sensitive, also. I feel like my thyroid has most likely always functioned at a pretty low level, and all this replacement hormone has shocked my body like crazy.
Banana27 could definitely have antibody tests (TPOab and TGab) to see what's going on with an autoimmune condition. Good suggestion.
True Goolarra....I have Graves Disease and although I had RAI and TT, I am still super sensitive to meds (any kind of meds).
I cannot tolerate Codein, Morphone or Pethidine....the only surgical pain relief I can tolerate is Tramadol.
I cannot take any penicillin, and there is only one anti-biotic left now that I can take so I dont take them unless I am dying literally.
I get anaphalctic shock from most meds now.
So I lean more to natural therapies for colds, coughs, flu etc.
Eutroxig (sodium Thyroxin) is the same ....I started at 25mcg, went to 50mcg, went to 75mcg then BANG! went hyper.
So I had to start from scratch all over again increasing my dosage by 1/4 tab (12.5mcg) weekly.
I am now on 62.5mcg 7 days a week and my Doc doubts whether I will ever get up to 75mcg again.
Some people are just super sesitive....and thats when baby steps should be taken with doses.
Each fortnight if labs show an increase needed ...only increase dosage by 12.5mcg weekly until you get the levels right.
Baby Steps lol.
After my initial start at 88 and backing back down to 25, I took those baby steps, too. 25 to 37.5 to 44 to 50 to 62.5 to 68.5 to 75 to 81.5 (and that took me a year!). And I hit the wall at 81.5 and I'm now back to 75. I have my doubts about ever getting to my original "starting" dose of 88, too.
Yeah Goolarra......I have doubts on hitting 75mcg.
It just goes to show that everyone is different depending on symptoms.
Feeling great at the moment...lady of leisure for 3 weeks lol :)
listen i went yrs so tired gained 100 pounds or more unknowinlgy i found out my thyr was barely functioning. it took 3 months to get my levels correct and i did start loosing weight without trying. but it is IMPORTANT to not miss your endo appts. I did and became real sick. So alwasy keep your endo appts and communicate with your dr. If he rushes you out the door say I am not finished. He will sit back down and let you finish. It maybe about money for them it is about your life with you. Fight for your life. I did and it paid off. Synthroid has worked great for me plus i have a GREAT endo dr in houston texas. He took me up small increments. He spceializes in thyroid and ddiabetes. His name is dr Orzack onM ain Street. At .125 I lost 10 pounds without trying.
Yeah I too have lost 10kgs (22lbs) of the weight I gained (17kgs) before RAI but only as my levels stabilised.
I havent been on a diet...the treadmill also has cobwebs on it lol.
I suspect you need some T3. You may ONLY need a T3 replacement. You don't mention what your Free T3 was. This can show us that if it is low, that the T4 replacement you are taking is pretty much 'backing up' and causing you hyper symptoms.
I suspect the doctor was trying to raise the Free T4 by giving you Synthroid. This usually works for most people. Some people have trouble converting the T4 into Free T3.
The fact you were having hair loss and heavy periods, shows me that your body is not needing a T4 but a T3 replacement. It would be worthwhile getting your Free T3's checked, if they haven't been done already. Also you are entitled to ask for your results. I would ask your doctor to give you a T3 replacement for a short evaluation time. Discuss this with your doctor.
Some of us are very sensitive to thyroid meds and have to start off at a very low dose and increase at a snail's pace. My last increase was 6.5 mcg, but it drove me right over the edge to hyper. My endo told me not to take anything for three days and then resume my former dose. If you're 1) over 50, OR 2) have been hypo for a long time, or 3) have a history of cardiac arrythmia, 12.5 to 25 mcg is the recommended starting dose.
Do you know what the actual numbers were for your free T3, free T4 (and FT3 and FT4 reference ranges) and TSH before starting Synthroid? The two possibilities here are that 25 mcg was too high for an initial dose, or that it's too high for you period.
Were you having hypo symptoms before starting on Synthroid?
Some people also find that switching brand names alleviates some of the side-effects. Fillers seem to be the culprit there.
Most think that the fast heartrate and the anxiety (panic attack type stuff) is from hyper when in actual fact, I have felt them both ends of the scale....both hyper and hypo.
The only difference being that when Hypo I ache like Hell and when Hyper, I could clean the house in 1/2 hr flat.
If it is the Synthroid, you would start to feel better by the 2nd day of the missed dose.
See yr Doc and see what he/she says.
My PCP did a bunch of bloodwork and called me a few days later and said, "Hey, how are you doing? No wait, don't answer that. I can tell you how you are feeling based on the bloodwork ..... You feel like ****!" He went on to tell me that the bloodwork showed I was hypothyroid. He said my free T4 was low. He quoted the value and acceptable range, but I cannot remember it exactly. I just know it was below the acceptable range. I know he tested the TSH, but he didn't mention it and I failed to ask because the conversation quickly transitioned into treatment with Synthroid. 25 mcg Synthroid to start and I was to come back in 6 weeks for follow-up bloodwork.
The first 2 weeks on Synthroid I felt nothing, good or bad. The 3rd week I started feeling more mentally "clear" and could focus and concentrate better and felt a little more energy. I was thinking, hey ... this stuff is really helping. When I reached the 4 week point, that is when all the problems started as described above. I last took it on Saturday, which would have been 5 weeks and 1 day on Synthroid.
Since skipping Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday I am feeling better. I actually slept last night for 9 hrs (much needed). So I definitely think it is the Synthroid pushing me hyper. It still seems odd for such a small dose, but perhaps I am just super sensitive to it. Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to call the doc today. While I don't want to take it and feel like ****, I was definitely seeing some benefits at 3 weeks. At this point I am torn about whether to keep taking it. Perhaps 12.5 mcg will do much better for me.
I also feel that I was probably slightly hypo for a very long time...like I came out of the womb that way! And, suffice it to say, that's over 50 years ago. Since I've been on levo for the past year and a half, I feel in some ways better than I felt all my life. For instance, I've maintained my weight since being on levo...never before could I do that for even a month.
I fit all three of the categories above for starting out on a low dose. My PCP started me at 88 mcg....yikes! That lasted about two weeks, and I started having side effects. PCP lowered the dose to 44 mcg. Two weeks later and down to 25mcg and I still had side effects. I know the 25 still bothered me...don't know how much the residual 88 and 44 affected that. Then I got on something to counter the levo side effects(I was starting to go slightly crazy) and started building very, very slowly - it took me a year to get to my current dose of 75 mcg. I'm still not ready for 88!!!
Talk to your doctor, and see how he feels about cutting you back to 12.5. After five weeks, you can repeat the bloodwork, see how you're feeling, and try a slight increase then if you and your labwork feel you need it. Don't wait too long to get back on meds. You don't want to start feeling hypo again. Slow and steady will get you there.
Banana27 could definitely have antibody tests (TPOab and TGab) to see what's going on with an autoimmune condition. Good suggestion.
I cannot tolerate Codein, Morphone or Pethidine....the only surgical pain relief I can tolerate is Tramadol.
I cannot take any penicillin, and there is only one anti-biotic left now that I can take so I dont take them unless I am dying literally.
I get anaphalctic shock from most meds now.
So I lean more to natural therapies for colds, coughs, flu etc.
Eutroxig (sodium Thyroxin) is the same ....I started at 25mcg, went to 50mcg, went to 75mcg then BANG! went hyper.
So I had to start from scratch all over again increasing my dosage by 1/4 tab (12.5mcg) weekly.
I am now on 62.5mcg 7 days a week and my Doc doubts whether I will ever get up to 75mcg again.
Some people are just super sesitive....and thats when baby steps should be taken with doses.
Each fortnight if labs show an increase needed ...only increase dosage by 12.5mcg weekly until you get the levels right.
Baby Steps lol.
It just goes to show that everyone is different depending on symptoms.
Feeling great at the moment...lady of leisure for 3 weeks lol :)
I havent been on a diet...the treadmill also has cobwebs on it lol.
I suspect the doctor was trying to raise the Free T4 by giving you Synthroid. This usually works for most people. Some people have trouble converting the T4 into Free T3.
The fact you were having hair loss and heavy periods, shows me that your body is not needing a T4 but a T3 replacement. It would be worthwhile getting your Free T3's checked, if they haven't been done already. Also you are entitled to ask for your results. I would ask your doctor to give you a T3 replacement for a short evaluation time. Discuss this with your doctor.