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Has anyone else Heard the study on Soy?
Has anyone ever thought they were allergic to soy products. Well you weren't far off from the truth Just saw a study that suggests that soy is not good for people with thyroid and autoimmune disorders. If you look up SOY AND THYROID you should bring up some of the recent scientific studies done on patients with these disorders and what soy products do to them. It could be quite dangerous for us to use soy in abundance. With all the products out there that include soy for the "health" benefits it is hard to avoid it all together but we must try. I believe that when this catches on there will be many products reformulated. JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW
well this is interesting because I just found out I am allergic to soy and although I am extremely healthy it is suspected that I may develop type 1 diabetes like others in my family.
Hi,
I had posted something about soy. I read what a couple of sites had to say about soy. Like anything, I think in moderation soy is okay. I have read that it can block the absorption of iodine in the gut. So, one shouldn't take it near the time they take thyroid drugs. And others, especially with a family history of thyroid disease should make sure that they have adequate iodine intake and minimize soy. But I don't believe that soy is the main cause of cancers and thyroid disease. Nor do I think it is all good or all bad. Anything in the cabbage family is a goitrigen also. But I also read that there are some properties of vegetables in this family that counteract the goitrigenic ones. Also, we can cook those and it supposedly destroys that property. But how many people have said to eat these things raw. All foods contain good and bad things, I believe. I think the jury is still out on soy, and to totally eliminate it unless allergic, is probably not necessary.
I found a link that I thought was a good one. Take a look at it. I found it interesting. http://web-mcb.agr.ehime-u.ac.jp/gmo/rec_data/related/Safety.htm
My mom had breast cancer and her doctor told her to eat a varied diet, and I think that is the best we can do. I mean if we are worried about hormones and toxins, meat and seafood are pretty much out, because they are being pumped full of hormones (animals) and well our water isn't the cleanest.
One of the articles I read that was talking about how bad soy was also contended that high cholesterol was good for women and men. It discredited most of the article for me. That is just plain ridiculous. I know we need cholesterol, but high cholesterol. I am no doctor, but I am not doing it. Anyway, that is my 2 cents worth on this topic.
Keep using that soy sauce Jenipeni.
Later,
Cheryl
I had posted something about soy. I read what a couple of sites had to say about soy. Like anything, I think in moderation soy is okay. I have read that it can block the absorption of iodine in the gut. So, one shouldn't take it near the time they take thyroid drugs. And others, especially with a family history of thyroid disease should make sure that they have adequate iodine intake and minimize soy. But I don't believe that soy is the main cause of cancers and thyroid disease. Nor do I think it is all good or all bad. Anything in the cabbage family is a goitrigen also. But I also read that there are some properties of vegetables in this family that counteract the goitrigenic ones. Also, we can cook those and it supposedly destroys that property. But how many people have said to eat these things raw. All foods contain good and bad things, I believe. I think the jury is still out on soy, and to totally eliminate it unless allergic, is probably not necessary.
I found a link that I thought was a good one. Take a look at it. I found it interesting. http://web-mcb.agr.ehime-u.ac.jp/gmo/rec_data/related/Safety.htm
My mom had breast cancer and her doctor told her to eat a varied diet, and I think that is the best we can do. I mean if we are worried about hormones and toxins, meat and seafood are pretty much out, because they are being pumped full of hormones (animals) and well our water isn't the cleanest.
One of the articles I read that was talking about how bad soy was also contended that high cholesterol was good for women and men. It discredited most of the article for me. That is just plain ridiculous. I know we need cholesterol, but high cholesterol. I am no doctor, but I am not doing it. Anyway, that is my 2 cents worth on this topic.
Keep using that soy sauce Jenipeni.
Later,
Cheryl
Hi,
I had posted something about soy. I read what a couple of sites had to say about soy. Like anything, I think in moderation soy is okay. I have read that it can block the absorption of iodine in the gut. So, one shouldn't take it near the time they take thyroid drugs. And others, especially with a family history of thyroid disease should make sure that they have adequate iodine intake and minimize soy. But I don't believe that soy is the main cause of cancers and thyroid disease. Nor do I think it is all good or all bad. Anything in the cabbage family is a goitrigen also. But I also read that there are some properties of vegetables in this family that counteract the goitrigenic ones. Also, we can cook those and it supposedly destroys that property. But how many people have said to eat these things raw. All foods contain good and bad things, I believe. I think the jury is still out on soy, and to totally eliminate it unless allergic, is probably not necessary.
I found a link that I thought was a good one. Take a look at it. I found it interesting. http://web-mcb.agr.ehime-u.ac.jp/gmo/rec_data/related/Safety.htm
My mom had breast cancer and her doctor told her to eat a varied diet, and I think that is the best we can do. I mean if we are worried about hormones and toxins, meat and seafood are pretty much out, because they are being pumped full of hormones (animals) and well our water isn't the cleanest.
One of the articles I read that was talking about how bad soy was also contended that high cholesterol was good for women and men. It discredited most of the article for me. That is just plain ridiculous. I know we need cholesterol, but high cholesterol. I am no doctor, but I am not doing it. Anyway, that is my 2 cents worth on this topic.
Keep using that soy sauce Jenipeni.
Later,
Cheryl
I had posted something about soy. I read what a couple of sites had to say about soy. Like anything, I think in moderation soy is okay. I have read that it can block the absorption of iodine in the gut. So, one shouldn't take it near the time they take thyroid drugs. And others, especially with a family history of thyroid disease should make sure that they have adequate iodine intake and minimize soy. But I don't believe that soy is the main cause of cancers and thyroid disease. Nor do I think it is all good or all bad. Anything in the cabbage family is a goitrigen also. But I also read that there are some properties of vegetables in this family that counteract the goitrigenic ones. Also, we can cook those and it supposedly destroys that property. But how many people have said to eat these things raw. All foods contain good and bad things, I believe. I think the jury is still out on soy, and to totally eliminate it unless allergic, is probably not necessary.
I found a link that I thought was a good one. Take a look at it. I found it interesting. http://web-mcb.agr.ehime-u.ac.jp/gmo/rec_data/related/Safety.htm
My mom had breast cancer and her doctor told her to eat a varied diet, and I think that is the best we can do. I mean if we are worried about hormones and toxins, meat and seafood are pretty much out, because they are being pumped full of hormones (animals) and well our water isn't the cleanest.
One of the articles I read that was talking about how bad soy was also contended that high cholesterol was good for women and men. It discredited most of the article for me. That is just plain ridiculous. I know we need cholesterol, but high cholesterol. I am no doctor, but I am not doing it. Anyway, that is my 2 cents worth on this topic.
Keep using that soy sauce Jenipeni.
Later,
Cheryl
I wanted to post an informative post, but it would be too complicated. Soy is a goitrigen, as was pointed out, and blocks the absorption of iodine in the gut, and consequently lead to goiter. However, cabbage, brussel sprouts, brocoli, cauliflower, and the list goes on, have goitrigenic properties. However, we have been encouraged to eat these things, because they also have healthy properties. And we have been encouraged to eat vegetables raw. Cooking these things apparently helps and there are also chemical properties that act against the goitrigenic ones. I think a mix is better. While I do agree that soy can and does interfere with the absorption of iodine in the gut, thereby possibly affecting the thyroid, most foods (including soy) also contain iodine. It is thought that most people get plenty in their diet in the U.S. for the most part.
I want to write more about this after some more research, but I do not think we can find one food-soy-and decide that it is a "bad" food because of recent articles. I think that everything needs to be eaten in moderation. Thyroid disease runs in my family amongst other diseases of the endo system. My father eats meat, vegetables, fruit, and probably some other, but is a big proponent of meat. What is in our meat? What hormones and carcinogens are in these things?
If one's diet is diverse (everything in moderation), there is proper iodine intake with the soy, foods like cabbage are cooked, and one does not take soy anywhere around the time of replacement, I think it is too much to eliminate a food entirely unless allergic. Many other foods have bad properties as well. I am providing an initial link. And some "toxic" things are used in the medical community. If we spend our whole lives avoiding anything that contains carcinogens, toxins, goitrigens, then we are not going to be able to live.
But also, I find it hard to swallow (no pun intended) that soy is the big cause of a lot of thyroid problems. There are so many factors. Autoimmune diseases like Graves' seem to be hereditary. Consider the Bush family? And John F. Kennedy and John F. Kennedy, Jr.? I don't know that a causal relationship has been established between soy and the development of autoimmune disorders like Graves'. Much more study needs doing and animal study or reviewing old research isn't enough. But I think the leap is too big that both breast cancer and thyroid disease are prominent in developing these problems. That said, I try to eat a wide variety of foods.
I hope I haven't ticked anyone off, but I think it is important to be reasonable but also research when we hear things change back and forth in the medical community.
http://web-mcb.agr.ehime-u.ac.jp/gmo/rec_data/related/Safety.htm
Good night
I want to write more about this after some more research, but I do not think we can find one food-soy-and decide that it is a "bad" food because of recent articles. I think that everything needs to be eaten in moderation. Thyroid disease runs in my family amongst other diseases of the endo system. My father eats meat, vegetables, fruit, and probably some other, but is a big proponent of meat. What is in our meat? What hormones and carcinogens are in these things?
If one's diet is diverse (everything in moderation), there is proper iodine intake with the soy, foods like cabbage are cooked, and one does not take soy anywhere around the time of replacement, I think it is too much to eliminate a food entirely unless allergic. Many other foods have bad properties as well. I am providing an initial link. And some "toxic" things are used in the medical community. If we spend our whole lives avoiding anything that contains carcinogens, toxins, goitrigens, then we are not going to be able to live.
But also, I find it hard to swallow (no pun intended) that soy is the big cause of a lot of thyroid problems. There are so many factors. Autoimmune diseases like Graves' seem to be hereditary. Consider the Bush family? And John F. Kennedy and John F. Kennedy, Jr.? I don't know that a causal relationship has been established between soy and the development of autoimmune disorders like Graves'. Much more study needs doing and animal study or reviewing old research isn't enough. But I think the leap is too big that both breast cancer and thyroid disease are prominent in developing these problems. That said, I try to eat a wide variety of foods.
I hope I haven't ticked anyone off, but I think it is important to be reasonable but also research when we hear things change back and forth in the medical community.
http://web-mcb.agr.ehime-u.ac.jp/gmo/rec_data/related/Safety.htm
Good night
I wonder if I should get rechecked for soy allergy. I was told years ago before I even had a thyroid problem that I have a soy allergy (and it has been confirmed by the allergic reactions I've had). Maybe it's not a true allergy at all. I've been trying very hard for the last few months to eliminate all soy & corn from my diet (I'm also allergic to corn) and I agree that it's almost impossible unless you eat completely fresh & organic. If you are looking for a soybean oil substitute I recommend rice bran oil - it's made by a company in California and although it's a bit more expensive than regular soybean oil it's flavorless and has an amazing amount of antioxidants in it.
This does not surprise me because Soy flour products are listed on the prescribing information of Synthroid (brand name for levothyroxine sodium), (and the Australian equivalent) under Drug Interactions. See;
www.synthroid.com
under 'Prescribing Information'
Apparently soy flour, cotton seed meal, walnuts, and dietary fiber may bind and decrease the absorption of levothyroxine sodium (drug name)from the GI tract.
The prescribing info for the Australian equivalent brand name Oroxine also lists soy flour, along with;
sodium polystyene sulphonate?, aluminium hydroxide, magnesium hydroxide, calcium carbonate and ferrous sulphate - stating that they all reduce clinical effect by interfering with absorbtion from the gastrointestinal tract.
Calcium supplements and Iron supplements are not the only one's to take 4-6 hours apart from your thyroid medication. Beware many commercial Antacids contain aluminium hyroxide, magnesium hydroxide and calcium carbonate.
So anyway it seems Soy is no good for you whether you have a thyroid or not (in large doses - I'm still having my soy sauce on fried rice, try and stop me!).
www.synthroid.com
under 'Prescribing Information'
Apparently soy flour, cotton seed meal, walnuts, and dietary fiber may bind and decrease the absorption of levothyroxine sodium (drug name)from the GI tract.
The prescribing info for the Australian equivalent brand name Oroxine also lists soy flour, along with;
sodium polystyene sulphonate?, aluminium hydroxide, magnesium hydroxide, calcium carbonate and ferrous sulphate - stating that they all reduce clinical effect by interfering with absorbtion from the gastrointestinal tract.
Calcium supplements and Iron supplements are not the only one's to take 4-6 hours apart from your thyroid medication. Beware many commercial Antacids contain aluminium hyroxide, magnesium hydroxide and calcium carbonate.
So anyway it seems Soy is no good for you whether you have a thyroid or not (in large doses - I'm still having my soy sauce on fried rice, try and stop me!).
A comment on how our food is treated. Approximately, three months ago the FDA in the states approved adding the listeria virus to cold cuts and deli meats (they are already full of salt, sugar, nitrates, growth hormones, antibiotics, GMO's, etc...anyways). They said that too many people die and get sick from pathogens in the meat (1000/yr die & 5000/yr get sick out of the entire population of the U.S.--pretty small numbers)which listeria apparently kills? Makes sense to you and me??
I was working out when I heard the news. I got SO mad and started walking much faster on the treadmill! It's just lobbier trying to make more $$$$--they don't care if we get sick. Our food is already full of so many unhealthy things...
even eating mostly organic foods and being very careful what I eat, I wonder sometimes how really healthy that is?
Cat
I was working out when I heard the news. I got SO mad and started walking much faster on the treadmill! It's just lobbier trying to make more $$$$--they don't care if we get sick. Our food is already full of so many unhealthy things...
even eating mostly organic foods and being very careful what I eat, I wonder sometimes how really healthy that is?
Cat
**THAT** explains why soy is on the "no no" list for the low-iodine diet.
You know, sometimes it's so frustrating when one study contradicts another. I remember soy being touted as the wonder food, now people are claiming it causes cancer?!?!
I'm going through a similar situation with my hormone-replacement medication. Had my last ovary removed last spring due to PCOS and was put on HRT since I was only 39 at the time. Now, less than a year later, I'm having serious second thoughts because of the recent study shows avoiding HRT lowers the risk for breast cancer (which my family has a strong history). It's maddening. Even my doctors can't agree.
I've pretty much decided that *everything* causes cancer in one way or another so the best we can do it eat right, exercise, and stay on top of our health.
Now if I'd just listen to my own advice. :-)
You know, sometimes it's so frustrating when one study contradicts another. I remember soy being touted as the wonder food, now people are claiming it causes cancer?!?!
I'm going through a similar situation with my hormone-replacement medication. Had my last ovary removed last spring due to PCOS and was put on HRT since I was only 39 at the time. Now, less than a year later, I'm having serious second thoughts because of the recent study shows avoiding HRT lowers the risk for breast cancer (which my family has a strong history). It's maddening. Even my doctors can't agree.
I've pretty much decided that *everything* causes cancer in one way or another so the best we can do it eat right, exercise, and stay on top of our health.
Now if I'd just listen to my own advice. :-)
Yes, I am aware and have been for years. Its hard to avoid for soy oil/products are in almost all processed foods. I also read all food labels/ingredients and avoid artificial sweeteners among a lot of other ingredients.
I have a site with an article written by a young lady who claims she got breast cancer from eating soy products. Here I thought soy was God of the proteins which at one time I was hoping to heavily rely on for my source of protein due to being a vegetarian.
And that is not half the story to what they are doing to our foods. Pet Peeve! Wonder I even eat - will just about hardly!
Happy New Year!
I have a site with an article written by a young lady who claims she got breast cancer from eating soy products. Here I thought soy was God of the proteins which at one time I was hoping to heavily rely on for my source of protein due to being a vegetarian.
And that is not half the story to what they are doing to our foods. Pet Peeve! Wonder I even eat - will just about hardly!
Happy New Year!
I have read an article that states soy products increase thyroid hormone levels. It is not recommended for thyroid cancer patients who are on hormone repressive therapy.
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