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Hashimoto's patients, are you TH1 or TH2 dominant?

Hashi patients, do you know if you are TH1 or TH2 dominant? I'm TH2 dominant. Coffee and green tea make my neck swell. I've given up caffeine and I take my Echinacea and Golden Seal each day and the flareups are gone. (Well, except when I eat chocolate). Which are you? Do you know if what you're eating could be causing auto-immune flareups?

Below is a part of the TH1/TH2 transcript taken from a video by Dr. Geronimo. Here's Dr. Geronimo's website:
http://www.powaychiro.com

I don't have enough room to post the entire transcript.To read the full transcript see my journal entry below:
http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/182243/Hashi-patients--Are-you-TH1-or-TH2-dominant

:) Tamra

"An autoimmune condition occurs when one branch of the immune system over dominates another branch. This is called an either a Th1 or Th2 dominance. A dominant TH1 response means that the natural killer cells and cytotoxic t cells are responsible for attacking the body, while a TH2 dominance indicates that your bcells and antibodies are mounting the attack. A blood test is needed to find out which branch is dominant. Thus to treat an autoimmune disease, it is critical to find the dominant branch and to balance the seesaw by stimulating the other branch. For example, if a patient’s autoimmune disease was TH1 dominant, treating it would require that we strengthen the Th2 side to balance out the immune system. If the patient were Th2 dominant, we would stimulate the Th1 side to regain balance. It’s a pretty simple solution, but so many people suffer needlessly because the immune system has been ignored, until now.

This is where clinical nutrition and natural medicine comes into play. It is well documented in clinical research that Th1 stimulants are Echinacea, maitake mushrooms and golden seal to name a few. Th2 stimulators are caffeine, green tea, and grape seed extract. So in the example I gave in the previous slide, if a patient with an under functioning thyroid is TH1 dominant, then I would prescribe supplements containing caffeine, green tea, and grape seed extract to stimulate the TH2 side to regain balance. If they were TH2 dominant, then Echinacea, mushrooms, and golden seal would balance out their immune system. Since most people with autoimmune conditions have no idea which branch of their immune system is dominant, they can actually make their condition worse by taking over the counter immune boosters. Lets say for example you were Th1 dominant and you catch a cold. A friend tells you that Echinacea helped them so you take it yourself. Unknowingly you would be flaring up your already dominant Th1 response and cause even more destruction to your thyroid gland."

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Below is an article from Mary Shomon about T4/T3 treatment vs the standard T4 only therapy. A new study shows T4/T3 therapy superior.

Drink Virgin coconut oil for the thrush. Seriously. 1 tbsp per day and work up to three per day over a few weeks. Also, quit gluten, yeast and sugar for a few days and see if you feel better.

http://thyroid.about.com/b/2010/05/17/t3-superior-t4-levothyroxine-hypothyroidism-thyroid.htm
:) Tamra
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Has anyone else experienced a white coat on the tongue, and grit on the teeth, when I take a drink of water it tastes bitter...the Dr. treated me with diflucan for 5 days, and it did nothing! He asked if I am a mouth breather? And, suggested it is dry mouth syndrome, it all started when I was given the radio active iodine. He said, he did not thing that would cause this...I guess I wonder if it is either one medication, Levo, or Synthroid, or the Hyomax for IBS...though I went off of it for several days, and had no relief what so ever...just lots of discomfort from IBS....Does anyone have suggestion as to how to get some measure of relief from this,....I brush my teeth and tongue several times a day...chew gum and dissolve altoids in my mouth, I also use Biotene toothpaste and mouthwash....This is the pits...I don't see the Dr. again until Oct. our town is really hurting for medical professionals...and available appointments. Thank you, for anyone who may have experienced this or has some suggestions.
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1220571 tn?1274841195
Re read my post, NOT a CT scan, BUT rather an ULTRA SOUND, of the thyroid....sorry for the mistake....My brain knew what I meant, but my fingers did not type it!
Thrush is back as bad as when it began...I do see the Dr. today...for that! Hopefully I can get some other questions answered, as well...
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1220571 tn?1274841195
Where can I find the information, about why we need to have FT3 and FT4 as opposed to T3 & T4? I'm trying to learn what I don't know! I want to learn all I can about this autoimmune disease, since I have to live with it...I also want to take facts to my Dr. and see how he responds to them...He seems like a Dr. who will research it, and not just po po it....I don't even know what questions to ask, at this stage of the illness, but am trying to learn.
Thank you.....so much.
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1220571 tn?1274841195
I've had one biopsy, my Dr. said, he plans to do another...I know he has me scheduled for a CT scan in Oct., and blood work...
Thank you, so much, what a help and blessing you have been to and for me...
;-) Sharon
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Hard nodules are more worrisome. I would not stress over this nodule. Request a biopsy to be sure. It is less painful than a trip to the dentist. So glad the mouth thrush is improving. :) Tamra
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