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Hypothyroidism
I'm a celiac with hypothyroidism. I started out at 50 mcg of synthroid and just recently my GP took the dose up to 75. He said it'll probably keep having to go up until eventually my thyroid completely stops working. Gack!
I want to be pro-active and heal my thyroid and not just bandaid it. The same GP told me that I'd be on Prozac for the rest of my life for depression. I stopped taking it because it was horrible and have never gone back on it.
I'm not in a financial position to see an orthomolecular physician or a naturopath right now, any alternative, natural ways to heal the thyroid that anyone knows of? Thanks!
I want to be pro-active and heal my thyroid and not just bandaid it. The same GP told me that I'd be on Prozac for the rest of my life for depression. I stopped taking it because it was horrible and have never gone back on it.
I'm not in a financial position to see an orthomolecular physician or a naturopath right now, any alternative, natural ways to heal the thyroid that anyone knows of? Thanks!
I was just sent an email telling me to choose a "best answer" and to thank everyone for replying. I think I did say thank you. But how do I choose a best answer???? The email that was sent to me has a "noreply" email address. Very confusing. :S
Oh, I take digestive enzymes too, I'm pretty sure they're the same brand, very pricey but worth it. thanks for your caring reply.
I told my doctor that I couldn't tolerate gluten (a year ago) and he was adamant that I take a celiac blood test. He said that it was negative, unless I hadn't been ingesting any gluten in the past couple of months. I told him that I had been completely clear of gluten for 2 years. He said OK then go ahead and eat some gluten and then we'll retest you so we get a proper reading. Yahhhh, OK! NOT! Doctors are nuts! If I get the slightest bit of gluten (in soy sauce or anything) I have to run to the bathroom within a very short time and I sometimes feel like I've been poisoned for some time after that. I don't really care what it's called, I just stay clear of all grains (including quinoa) and corn. The only soy product I use is soy sauce on sushi. I use VH brand or another without wheat. It doesn't seem to bother me.
Mon63
Oh I forgot to add that I have had Hashimoto Thyroiditis for 12 years. When they did a thyroid panel my internal medical doctor only checked Tsh, Total T4 and 3 uptake or free T4/3. It came back normal. I was so upset because I knew it was my thyroid because of all the symptoms.
I went home and researched ( back in 2001) realized that their are 3 or 4 ways of getting thyroid disease. . Primary overt hypothyroid and Autoimmune thyroiditis (Hashimoto's), secondary and tertiary.
Primary hypothyroidism is a condition characterized by the failure of the thyroid gland to produce sufficient thyroid hormones.
Secondary and tertiary hypothyroidism are both referred to as central hypothyroidism. The pathology of secondary hypothyroidism lies in the pituitary gland and its failure to secrete TSH. Tertiary hypothyroidism is caused by a deficiency in the hypothalamus, which fails to regulate the pituitary gland through the secretion of thyrotropin-releasing hormone.(TRH)
However, both will exhibit low Tsh with low T4 and sometimes low T3.
So now I called my internal medicine doctor to see if he checked thyroid peroxidase antibodies or thyroglobulin antibodies; it was not done. He said he only checks antibodies if Tsh is elevated to then find out the reason or which thyroid disease exist.
So i found a really good endo, to help me further. Not all doctors check thyroid properly. Even my new endocrinologist now tells me a person can have a normal or high end range Tsh with low or normal Free T3 or T4. My antibodies were 850 and the range is 0-35 peroxidase thyroid antibodies and 0-20 for thyroglobulin antibodies.
So make sure you find a doctor that checks both antibodies. They think Graves and Hashimoto is the same disease in one. For some reason if flip flops, back and forth in some people.
Sorry if I made typos as I have very bad arthrits in my hands.
Take care
Nikki
Oh I forgot to add that I have had Hashimoto Thyroiditis for 12 years. When they did a thyroid panel my internal medical doctor only checked Tsh, Total T4 and 3 uptake or free T4/3. It came back normal. I was so upset because I knew it was my thyroid because of all the symptoms.
I went home and researched ( back in 2001) realized that their are 3 or 4 ways of getting thyroid disease. . Primary overt hypothyroid and Autoimmune thyroiditis (Hashimoto's), secondary and tertiary.
Primary hypothyroidism is a condition characterized by the failure of the thyroid gland to produce sufficient thyroid hormones.
Secondary and tertiary hypothyroidism are both referred to as central hypothyroidism. The pathology of secondary hypothyroidism lies in the pituitary gland and its failure to secrete TSH. Tertiary hypothyroidism is caused by a deficiency in the hypothalamus, which fails to regulate the pituitary gland through the secretion of thyrotropin-releasing hormone.(TRH)
However, both will exhibit low Tsh with low T4 and sometimes low T3.
So now I called my internal medicine doctor to see if he checked thyroid peroxidase antibodies or thyroglobulin antibodies; it was not done. He said he only checks antibodies if Tsh is elevated to then find out the reason or which thyroid disease exist.
So i found a really good endo, to help me further. Not all doctors check thyroid properly. Even my new endocrinologist now tells me a person can have a normal or high end range Tsh with low or normal Free T3 or T4. My antibodies were 850 and the range is 0-35 peroxidase thyroid antibodies and 0-20 for thyroglobulin antibodies.
So make sure you find a doctor that checks both antibodies. They think Graves and Hashimoto is the same disease in one. For some reason if flip flops, back and forth in some people.
Sorry if I made typos as I have very bad arthrits in my hands.
Take care
Nikki
Mon63
Hey, I have rare adrenal insufficiency called Addison, Hashimto Thyroiditis and Sjogrens and I do not have celiac disease, Celiac is the severe more of gluten where villi is completely destroyed so you have a lot of minerals deficiencies in the ratios which are very hard to balance because we do not have definitive testing in mineral or their ratios.
Their people are are developing a non celiac gluten sensitivity. Non-celiac Gluten sensitivity and celiac disease were used interchangeably in medical literature. However, research indicates that gluten sensitivity has a broader scope than celiac disease. If the medical history of a patient, along with clinical tests, rule out celiac disease and wheat allergy, a diagnosis of idiopathic gluten sensitivity can be considered.
I found a study on gluten sensitivity released in early 2011, prominent celiac researcher Dr. Alessio Fasano concluded that "gluten sensitivity" represents a completely different condition from celiac disease, and most of the people who suffer from gluten sensitivity will never develop celiac. While his research is certainly of interest to the medical community, it's important to note that his research has not yet been replicated and so the medical community at large still considers this a theory in development.
Dr. Fasano and a group made up of prominent celiac disease researchers, including Drs. Peter Green (head of the Columbia University Celiac Disease Center) and Dr Marios Hadjivassiliou (a consultant neurologist and expert in gluten ataxia), followed up the initial study with a consensus statement released in February 2012 proposing ways to differentiate between celiac disease, gluten sensitivity and gluten ataxia.
Additional researchers also have chimed in with findings. Some studies show that some gluten-sensitive people have similar metabolic profiles to diagnosed celiacs, indicating that there might be a pre-celiac condition. Other studies back Dr. Fasano's findings that gluten can trigger symptoms in people who don't have classic celiac disease.
In some cases, their physician says they can eat gluten in moderation, or they are told to follow the gluten-free diet but that they don't need to be as careful as celiac patients. Others are told they're "potential" celiac disease patients, and to check back in a year or so for more testing to see if they've developed the condition. So it can be confusing. I limited my gluten because it has phytic acid which blocks zinc, calcium, and magnesium. Soy and have high phytic acid too, this is why we should rotate foods and not eat the same thing daily, (as in our favorite foods). Soy is in every thing it seems which I think is causing the thyroid epidemic. I had a friend that was in menpause and eating so many things with soy to get more phytoestrogens to help with. Hot flashes etc and she develpoed antibodies to Hashimoto...'go figure! I told her that I am surprised your doctor did not tell you this but when she went to endocrinologist he told her to back off the soy. Her antibodies came down, but eventually she still had to start thyroid meds. :(
there is plenty yet that some people do not know about soy! Soy contains several naturally occurring compounds that are toxic to humans and animals...soy toxins such as phytic acid...have the ability to target specific organs, cells and enzyme pathways and their effects can be devastating....As with any toxin there will be a dose at which negative effects are not observed. Soy Online Services have examined the scientific data on the soy toxins and have uncovered several alarming truths...There is no legislation to protect consumers from soy toxins in raw soy products...all soy products, no matter how well treated, contain low to moderate levels of soy toxins; processing cannot remove them all of any of them. Companies still push soy making false claims because it is big big money. A little soy does not hurt,but if a person consumes soy daily with every meal then it will pose as a major risk, especially with thyroid.
I take digest gold enzymes with each meal (2-4) and it helps a great deal.
Warm regards,
Nikki
Hey, I have rare adrenal insufficiency called Addison, Hashimto Thyroiditis and Sjogrens and I do not have celiac disease, Celiac is the severe more of gluten where villi is completely destroyed so you have a lot of minerals deficiencies in the ratios which are very hard to balance because we do not have definitive testing in mineral or their ratios.
Their people are are developing a non celiac gluten sensitivity. Non-celiac Gluten sensitivity and celiac disease were used interchangeably in medical literature. However, research indicates that gluten sensitivity has a broader scope than celiac disease. If the medical history of a patient, along with clinical tests, rule out celiac disease and wheat allergy, a diagnosis of idiopathic gluten sensitivity can be considered.
I found a study on gluten sensitivity released in early 2011, prominent celiac researcher Dr. Alessio Fasano concluded that "gluten sensitivity" represents a completely different condition from celiac disease, and most of the people who suffer from gluten sensitivity will never develop celiac. While his research is certainly of interest to the medical community, it's important to note that his research has not yet been replicated and so the medical community at large still considers this a theory in development.
Dr. Fasano and a group made up of prominent celiac disease researchers, including Drs. Peter Green (head of the Columbia University Celiac Disease Center) and Dr Marios Hadjivassiliou (a consultant neurologist and expert in gluten ataxia), followed up the initial study with a consensus statement released in February 2012 proposing ways to differentiate between celiac disease, gluten sensitivity and gluten ataxia.
Additional researchers also have chimed in with findings. Some studies show that some gluten-sensitive people have similar metabolic profiles to diagnosed celiacs, indicating that there might be a pre-celiac condition. Other studies back Dr. Fasano's findings that gluten can trigger symptoms in people who don't have classic celiac disease.
In some cases, their physician says they can eat gluten in moderation, or they are told to follow the gluten-free diet but that they don't need to be as careful as celiac patients. Others are told they're "potential" celiac disease patients, and to check back in a year or so for more testing to see if they've developed the condition. So it can be confusing. I limited my gluten because it has phytic acid which blocks zinc, calcium, and magnesium. Soy and have high phytic acid too, this is why we should rotate foods and not eat the same thing daily, (as in our favorite foods). Soy is in every thing it seems which I think is causing the thyroid epidemic. I had a friend that was in menpause and eating so many things with soy to get more phytoestrogens to help with. Hot flashes etc and she develpoed antibodies to Hashimoto...'go figure! I told her that I am surprised your doctor did not tell you this but when she went to endocrinologist he told her to back off the soy. Her antibodies came down, but eventually she still had to start thyroid meds. :(
there is plenty yet that some people do not know about soy! Soy contains several naturally occurring compounds that are toxic to humans and animals...soy toxins such as phytic acid...have the ability to target specific organs, cells and enzyme pathways and their effects can be devastating....As with any toxin there will be a dose at which negative effects are not observed. Soy Online Services have examined the scientific data on the soy toxins and have uncovered several alarming truths...There is no legislation to protect consumers from soy toxins in raw soy products...all soy products, no matter how well treated, contain low to moderate levels of soy toxins; processing cannot remove them all of any of them. Companies still push soy making false claims because it is big big money. A little soy does not hurt,but if a person consumes soy daily with every meal then it will pose as a major risk, especially with thyroid.
I take digest gold enzymes with each meal (2-4) and it helps a great deal.
Warm regards,
Nikki
High iodine intake, selenium deficiency, tobacco smoke, infectious diseases and certain drugs have been implicated in the development of autoimmune thyroid disease in genetically predisposed individuals.
Research shows there is a connection between Hashimoto's disease and Celiac disease. Celiac patients are nearly 4 times more likely to develop an autoimmune thyroid condition. The most common being Hashimoto's thyroiditis and Graves' disease.
The mechanism underlying osteoporosis in celiac disease is likely to be related to calcium malabsorption leading to increased parathyroid hormone (PTH) secretion which increases bone turnover and cortical bone loss.
Research shows there is a connection between Hashimoto's disease and Celiac disease. Celiac patients are nearly 4 times more likely to develop an autoimmune thyroid condition. The most common being Hashimoto's thyroiditis and Graves' disease.
The mechanism underlying osteoporosis in celiac disease is likely to be related to calcium malabsorption leading to increased parathyroid hormone (PTH) secretion which increases bone turnover and cortical bone loss.
Well, that is very interesting indeed. I live on Vancouver Island and there is very little selenium available in our soil. I understand that too little selenium also can cause prostate cancer in men. Therefore men on the island are advised to take selenium. I didn't know about what you just said though. I'll definitely start taking some. Thank you so much! There are so many women that I speak to who are on synthroid who live here. Hmmm.
I stopped taking Prozac 10 years ago. My doctor's just an old school pill pusher. He told me last week that celiac disease and thyroid malfunction are not linked at all. I told him that my pharmacist told me they are, as is my osteoporosis. Thanks for your reply.
Selenium protects the cells from oxidative stress and free radicals. This antioxidant protects the thyroid gland from damage by excessive iodide, is essential for converting T4 into biologically active T3, may reduce TPO thyroid antibodies, and may slow down the progression of autoimmune thyroid disease.
Brazil nuts contains anywhere from 50 - 90mcg of selenium depending on the soil. Supplement wise, look for the form selenomethionine (better absorption). It is best to take selenium and vitamin E together as they facilitate each others absorption. Sunflower seeds and nuts are among the best sources of vitamin E.
Brazil nuts contains anywhere from 50 - 90mcg of selenium depending on the soil. Supplement wise, look for the form selenomethionine (better absorption). It is best to take selenium and vitamin E together as they facilitate each others absorption. Sunflower seeds and nuts are among the best sources of vitamin E.
At the moment, no, there is no way to heal the thyroid. All we can do is treat it by replacing the hormones our thyroid can no longer make.
If you have full blown autoimmune celiac disease, then the chances are great that you also have autoimmune hypo (Hashimoto's thyroiditis). If that's the case, then your doctor is right...your thyroid will fail more and more until it is kaput! (Mine is.) TPOab and TGab are the two antibody tests that would confirm Hashi's.
Depression is a symptom of hypo. If your depression is caused by hypo, you will only have to take Prozac for the rest of your life if your doctor isn't doing his job well.
Do you have recent labs to post? If so, please do and include the reference ranges from your own lab report.
Are your symptoms improving?
If you have full blown autoimmune celiac disease, then the chances are great that you also have autoimmune hypo (Hashimoto's thyroiditis). If that's the case, then your doctor is right...your thyroid will fail more and more until it is kaput! (Mine is.) TPOab and TGab are the two antibody tests that would confirm Hashi's.
Depression is a symptom of hypo. If your depression is caused by hypo, you will only have to take Prozac for the rest of your life if your doctor isn't doing his job well.
Do you have recent labs to post? If so, please do and include the reference ranges from your own lab report.
Are your symptoms improving?
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