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depression-side effect of thyroid?
How many here have or had depression/anxiety with Hashimoto. How long did it last and what are you or did you do about it. I am waiting for my blood results, they haven't come yet. I hope today. But when I wake up in the morning I know it's there and there's that word again it is scaring me that it is not going away. I am changing from holistic doctor to reg psychiatrist as I posted before and will see him on Tues. In the meantime I am still on the holistic stuff. I know everybody is different but the Lord specifically told me that this was not mental but all of it was physical from the thyroid . What I can't understand is what is keeping it from going. I am not sure where my tsh is right now. My last test was 4.19 (0.40-4.50) My endo said come back in 3 - 6 months and we will check it again. I just had it checked on Monday and haven't gotten the results as I have been feeling so bad. I have a foggy mind and not much energy and the depression is more here than gone, I am going to be getting an antidepressant. Has that helped you to feel better. Did you have to take it for long. What is your experience with depression with hashimoto? Linda
I would have to say the Therapist can be a good thing, but since alot of us have Thyroid problems, a Therapist cannot fix the chemical imbalance in our bodies with just counseling.
Sadly, medication is needed, however miracles do happen and you may not need the meds for long. But I am at the point of asking for antidepressants. I can talk and talk all I want to my wife or my parents or brother about what I feel, however when you are alone and the hormones in your body get out of whack, sometimes there isnt anything you can do to bring yourself out of it because it is a mental issue but also a physical issue of chemical imbalance.
Try the antidepressants for a bit and see if they work, then in the meantime get something to have your thyroid regulated.
There have been times where I felt like nothing mattered, my job, my wife, all that. I felt I wasnt good enough and felt there was no point in me trying. Often days I would have to hold myself from tears at work for no reason, then the next day I was fine. Thyroids are serious business :(
Sadly, medication is needed, however miracles do happen and you may not need the meds for long. But I am at the point of asking for antidepressants. I can talk and talk all I want to my wife or my parents or brother about what I feel, however when you are alone and the hormones in your body get out of whack, sometimes there isnt anything you can do to bring yourself out of it because it is a mental issue but also a physical issue of chemical imbalance.
Try the antidepressants for a bit and see if they work, then in the meantime get something to have your thyroid regulated.
There have been times where I felt like nothing mattered, my job, my wife, all that. I felt I wasnt good enough and felt there was no point in me trying. Often days I would have to hold myself from tears at work for no reason, then the next day I was fine. Thyroids are serious business :(
Do you think that the antidepressant is going to be the answer for me for a while. I was thinking that your thyroid does jump around when you have nodules that produce. I am in the very bottom of normal but it jumped there in less than 3 weeks. Jesus has been giving me a song everyday to get me through. Yesterday it was I'm holding the hand of the man who walked on water. Today it is "I healed your body, I healed your mind, I saved you just in time, Look what the Lord has done. Look what the Lord has done.
I do have some issues that could be taken care of with counselling but I think the thyroid issues aggregate so that they torment me. I am just getting through each day with what the lord is giving me along with my regular meds and today thank God I have slept alot. I don't know what the future holds. I want to get better and get on with my life. I don't even feel like writing any more. You are so kind and I am doing the best that I can. Thanks Stella. I really don't think at this time i can do any better. Do you think that the regular psychiatrist will really help instead of the naturual Md. I know you don't take an antidepressant do you. linda
I do have some issues that could be taken care of with counselling but I think the thyroid issues aggregate so that they torment me. I am just getting through each day with what the lord is giving me along with my regular meds and today thank God I have slept alot. I don't know what the future holds. I want to get better and get on with my life. I don't even feel like writing any more. You are so kind and I am doing the best that I can. Thanks Stella. I really don't think at this time i can do any better. Do you think that the regular psychiatrist will really help instead of the naturual Md. I know you don't take an antidepressant do you. linda
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You have been writing these posts on your depression this past week pretty hard. You also had a blood test to PROVE there WAS a change.
I think God has answered a bunch of prayers for you on your health !! Let me explain.
He first gave you this depression (or symptom) to alert your soul and mind that you needed a different prescription. You were in tune enough with HIS way of telling you a change needed to be made......... and you listened. He also guided you to getting a blood test at the right time before the Hyper diagnois became a danger situation for you. He also gave you to power of knowledge to understand the blood test and know you are going hyper. And you may not see it at the moment - but he gave you the strength of a strong mind to move on to a better physician that will heal you.
It is awful being depressed - but he only puts enough on your plate that he knows you can handle. This is his way of teaching you - your limits. Giving up is not in any teachings the Lord wrote about - but he did write about rising up and taking control and looking to him for guidance. Life has it's trials and that is what we had been put here for. To teach his word. Speak of him and cast the "bad". Don't let the bad in.
If you battle with infirmity,sickness, or some other problem, "pray incessantly" for help so that you do not become a victim of discouragement. (1 Thess. 5:17, 17)
As my spiritual book goes on : Of course you are likely to have emotional ups and downs, but try to focus on the positive, spiritual things, and hsi teaches he provided to you for a strong mind especially our precious Kingdom of
hope.
I know you can handle this - breathe the fresh air today. Get out a walk - Do for Linda today and not the others. Have peace in the Lords presence today with you and your husband.
Tuesday will come and answers will be there.
You have been writing these posts on your depression this past week pretty hard. You also had a blood test to PROVE there WAS a change.
I think God has answered a bunch of prayers for you on your health !! Let me explain.
He first gave you this depression (or symptom) to alert your soul and mind that you needed a different prescription. You were in tune enough with HIS way of telling you a change needed to be made......... and you listened. He also guided you to getting a blood test at the right time before the Hyper diagnois became a danger situation for you. He also gave you to power of knowledge to understand the blood test and know you are going hyper. And you may not see it at the moment - but he gave you the strength of a strong mind to move on to a better physician that will heal you.
It is awful being depressed - but he only puts enough on your plate that he knows you can handle. This is his way of teaching you - your limits. Giving up is not in any teachings the Lord wrote about - but he did write about rising up and taking control and looking to him for guidance. Life has it's trials and that is what we had been put here for. To teach his word. Speak of him and cast the "bad". Don't let the bad in.
If you battle with infirmity,sickness, or some other problem, "pray incessantly" for help so that you do not become a victim of discouragement. (1 Thess. 5:17, 17)
As my spiritual book goes on : Of course you are likely to have emotional ups and downs, but try to focus on the positive, spiritual things, and hsi teaches he provided to you for a strong mind especially our precious Kingdom of
hope.
I know you can handle this - breathe the fresh air today. Get out a walk - Do for Linda today and not the others. Have peace in the Lords presence today with you and your husband.
Tuesday will come and answers will be there.
ooooh yeah baby! Don't get ME started on depression and Hashimoto's! I suffered for over 15 years! Darn G.P. sent me off to the psych and subsequently I was given 575mg of Efexor tablets...this went on for 8 years...kept telling the psych I think something else is wrong...No no no, he said, you have typical clinical depression brought on by your circumstances(husband left me with 3 kids under 6 years of age, all had health problems, no family etc etc) One day I discovered by sheer fluke that my new pharmacist was quite worried I was taking too much dosage. Only turned out the psych made a mistake! I should have been on that dose for only 2 weeks in a psych hospital for observation!
One thing I will say though is, although the dose was very high, I swear I do not know how I would have coped without it. Man! Those bursting into tears at the supermarket or any old place were so weird!
Last year I got diagnosed with Hashimoto's Disease...(oh I have been off the anti-depressants for nearly two years...the high dose was causing kidney damage, new psych made me go off them!) Mynew psych is Chinese and he studied up Hashimoto's and he agrees that my depression was a SYMPTOM of the disease not an external causation. Many endo's, G.P's etc find depression a hard one to pin to any one disease and being female use everything else to blame rather than accepting the patient themselves know they aren't right.
I spent many an appointment arguing with the doctors.....and to no avail....till last year when the nodules got so big they were obvious to a blind person!
It took at least 6 weeks with anti-depressants to feel better but I never felt totally good. Now I know it was Hashimoto's I am not sure they were the answer. Probably changing my diet has helped. I have wheat intolerance and I notice my depression gets worse when I forget and have something like pasta. Two days later I get really grumpy and teary. I guess everyone is different and how high your antibodies are too at the time...but rest assured you are not alone or going nuts!
Cheers!
One thing I will say though is, although the dose was very high, I swear I do not know how I would have coped without it. Man! Those bursting into tears at the supermarket or any old place were so weird!
Last year I got diagnosed with Hashimoto's Disease...(oh I have been off the anti-depressants for nearly two years...the high dose was causing kidney damage, new psych made me go off them!) Mynew psych is Chinese and he studied up Hashimoto's and he agrees that my depression was a SYMPTOM of the disease not an external causation. Many endo's, G.P's etc find depression a hard one to pin to any one disease and being female use everything else to blame rather than accepting the patient themselves know they aren't right.
I spent many an appointment arguing with the doctors.....and to no avail....till last year when the nodules got so big they were obvious to a blind person!
It took at least 6 weeks with anti-depressants to feel better but I never felt totally good. Now I know it was Hashimoto's I am not sure they were the answer. Probably changing my diet has helped. I have wheat intolerance and I notice my depression gets worse when I forget and have something like pasta. Two days later I get really grumpy and teary. I guess everyone is different and how high your antibodies are too at the time...but rest assured you are not alone or going nuts!
Cheers!
thank you for your comments. When the Lord was speaking to me he was talking about my thyroid and the effect it was having one me and still is. I just found out my tsh in 3 weeks went from 4.4 down to 0.42 , it actuallydid that in 2 weeks. That was when the depression and anxiety and my whole self fell apart. I have been clinging to him to just make it through the day. I am taking a natural prozac and same and lorazapam which were not working for me during this time. I am going to a psychiatrist this week but first I am calling my endo to see what he is going to do about my thyroid. He had wanted me to wait 3-6 months to have it checked but I'm glad I didn't as Iam having hyper symptoms, nervousness, fog, depression, anxiety, losing weight can't sleep. I don't know what else. I will talk to the doctor and see what he wants me to do. Up to this poin the natural was working good for me. My thyroid nodules produce and also my endo was having me take an extra 12.5 mg on Sundays. I am very sensitive to the medication and can only take 37.5 mg. Linda
i hope that when u said the lord told u it was physical it wasnt because you fear the thought of mental illness unrealistic.Mental illness is just as physical as any other illness. Our emotions are affected by our brain just as any other part of us and when u add hormone irregularitis we become even more subceptable. So please dont refuse the idea of anti-depressants. I will say it like it is, you can pray all you want but if you are clinically depressed the only thing that will truly help is medication.Depression is just as real and should be treated the same as if you had diabetes and needed insulin.
I just got my blood results faxed to me. My tsh has dropped from 4.4 to 0.42 in 3 weeks. Don't you think this is having a problem for me with the depression. This is close to become hyper. I posted so read the results and let me know. I have been getting more depressed each week for the past 3 weeks that is why I had it taken. linda
You are right when you say my depression is not as bad a yours.
It has been in the past, so I understand what you are feeling.
I spent a couple of months in 2006 thinking of suicide because the physical pain and mental torment of my depression seemed too much to bear. It was a black hole I could not climb out of.
Most of that was due to my TSH being so far off and going up and down and my hormones being out of whack. It causes depression.
The fact that I was unable to work and the doctors were not making me better just made it worse.
I still have bouts of depression, but they are not as severe now, and I can often "talk myself" out of a bad spell. The people here help a lot, because they understand what it is like and it is difficult for me to talk to my friends in town about it.
I understand your financial problems, as well. We are in a similar situation, although I am lucky that I still have medical insurance that covers most of my medical bills.
But I have no income and my pharmacy bill alone right now is over $1,500, and I owe various hospitals several thousand dollars.
Trying to keep the phone turned on and the house payment and medical insurance paid is getting harder every month.
My wife Barb keeps telling me the Lord will provide, and I know he will, but I still worry and scramble every week trying to pay bills.
Until God mails me a big check, I have to figure out ways to come up with money. I honestly believe he has a check on the way for me, but it hasn't come yet.
I think when your TSH gets closer to 1.0, your depression will lessen. I think it will also lessen as you make progress with your therapist.
In the meantime, the anti-depressant will make life bearable for you again. You may find joy in waking up and living another day. I hope so.
That is what God wants for all of us. To be thankful for the day he has given us. But he doesn't want you suffering every day. He brings adversity into our lives for various reasons, but he does not want you to be miserable all the time.
I hope the anti-depressant works for you, so you can get back to being the person you used to be, and want to be again.
We can talk any time you would like to.
I hope the coming week brings you good news and that you start feeling better soon.
It has been in the past, so I understand what you are feeling.
I spent a couple of months in 2006 thinking of suicide because the physical pain and mental torment of my depression seemed too much to bear. It was a black hole I could not climb out of.
Most of that was due to my TSH being so far off and going up and down and my hormones being out of whack. It causes depression.
The fact that I was unable to work and the doctors were not making me better just made it worse.
I still have bouts of depression, but they are not as severe now, and I can often "talk myself" out of a bad spell. The people here help a lot, because they understand what it is like and it is difficult for me to talk to my friends in town about it.
I understand your financial problems, as well. We are in a similar situation, although I am lucky that I still have medical insurance that covers most of my medical bills.
But I have no income and my pharmacy bill alone right now is over $1,500, and I owe various hospitals several thousand dollars.
Trying to keep the phone turned on and the house payment and medical insurance paid is getting harder every month.
My wife Barb keeps telling me the Lord will provide, and I know he will, but I still worry and scramble every week trying to pay bills.
Until God mails me a big check, I have to figure out ways to come up with money. I honestly believe he has a check on the way for me, but it hasn't come yet.
I think when your TSH gets closer to 1.0, your depression will lessen. I think it will also lessen as you make progress with your therapist.
In the meantime, the anti-depressant will make life bearable for you again. You may find joy in waking up and living another day. I hope so.
That is what God wants for all of us. To be thankful for the day he has given us. But he doesn't want you suffering every day. He brings adversity into our lives for various reasons, but he does not want you to be miserable all the time.
I hope the anti-depressant works for you, so you can get back to being the person you used to be, and want to be again.
We can talk any time you would like to.
I hope the coming week brings you good news and that you start feeling better soon.
I am typing and crying for your understanding. You are right. I am waiting for my blood test results, the last one 4 weeks ago or so was 4.4. Part of mine is situational. We have two houses in Fla. which are not finished to sell. the one is costing us every month and a trailor that partially pays for itself by rental for 4 months but we are in between a rock and a hard place financially. The doctors don't take insurance and we have to pay for them. I am going to stop the holistic doctor for the depression and am going to the psychiatrist who also doesn't take our insurance which is medicare and aarp. I am able for a short time to sing to the Lord and preoccupy myself with making jewelry and do a few things around the house but it always creeps back in how I feel and don't know why. I don't want to say it on here by I get feeling so low so very low . I hate to say too much because it doesn't make me feel good. I feel better when I speak more positive about what is going on. My endo doesn't seem to be worried at all about the depression and actually it has just gotten worse the past couple of weeks. That is why I had my blood tested. The mail hasn't come yet. I started typing this and we had to go to the store. I sang the whole store I have my hand in the hand of the man who walks on water. It got me through. I do have issues from the past this could be thyroid induced into it and that 's why I am going for counselling to see if They can be resolved. My counsellor says we are at core issues and they are hard. She says I shouldn't worry she has seen many others get as bad as me and still get better . She also thinks I need an antidepressant now instead of the natural. I still have to wait until Tues and then however long it takes to work. thank God I have a loving husband and supportive family. But I still have to make it work. You can't get them to make you well. I think I just heard the mailman.
Ar-l0 there is nobody that I would rather hear from at this time than you as I know you have had all types of issues. I don't know how you make it. The anxiety pill lorazapam 1 mg. doesn't do much for me now. It only lasts and I have to really calm myself down to get it to work. That is why I am making the earrings I am going to send them to Thailand with my counsellor on a missionary trip in March to give to the ladies there. I have about 25 made already. I have given that many away to other people.
Please think about me and when you can write me for I value your remarks. You are not in the same depression that is hitting me or making you can make yourself calm down and change your thoughts. I work on it but at this point it doesn't stay away long.
I was going to say the name of the antidepression pill but I can't remember it. Thanks again for being here. Linda
Ar-l0 there is nobody that I would rather hear from at this time than you as I know you have had all types of issues. I don't know how you make it. The anxiety pill lorazapam 1 mg. doesn't do much for me now. It only lasts and I have to really calm myself down to get it to work. That is why I am making the earrings I am going to send them to Thailand with my counsellor on a missionary trip in March to give to the ladies there. I have about 25 made already. I have given that many away to other people.
Please think about me and when you can write me for I value your remarks. You are not in the same depression that is hitting me or making you can make yourself calm down and change your thoughts. I work on it but at this point it doesn't stay away long.
I was going to say the name of the antidepression pill but I can't remember it. Thanks again for being here. Linda
Thyroid disease brings with it chemical changes in the brain. The hormones you are lacking make you feel depressed.
I am not on anti-depressants, but I should be. I should have been put on anti-depressants a year and a half ago. But I'm not, and there are days I suffer for not having them.
I take anti-anxiety meds, and they stopped the anxiety, but they do not help stop the depression one bit.
I have seen you struggle with this for over a year. You need to give up on the holistic approach and try an anti-depressant. Your body is lacking chemicals it needs.
There is also the depression that scarlet mentions. I call it "situational depression", for lack of a better term.
I lost four months of work in 2006, and it hurt financially.
I had to stop working again in October of '07, and I have not worked since then. I will be unable to work for several more months, maybe a year or two.
That is depressing.
You are going through something similar. You are trying to care for these ladies to supplement your income, but it is more than you can handle every day and is keeping you run down, stressed out, and feeling ill.
That is depressing.
You need to slow down, whether you can afford it or not.
You need anti-depressants to regulate the chemicals in your brain.
You need to get your TSH down closer to 1.0, also. Hopefully your doctor will increase your med dosage a little and get your hormones in balance. You're not at the correct level yet.
Until that happens, and you have several months to heal, you need anti-depressants. It's not a sin to need medicine. Take what the doctor offers you and realize such medicines exist because the Lord allows it.
I think you and I are both standing in front of the Lord asking for help, but we do not see the outstreched hand he is offering us. Our needs are different, but his hand is there. We need to see it, and grasp it.
Does that make sense?
I am not on anti-depressants, but I should be. I should have been put on anti-depressants a year and a half ago. But I'm not, and there are days I suffer for not having them.
I take anti-anxiety meds, and they stopped the anxiety, but they do not help stop the depression one bit.
I have seen you struggle with this for over a year. You need to give up on the holistic approach and try an anti-depressant. Your body is lacking chemicals it needs.
There is also the depression that scarlet mentions. I call it "situational depression", for lack of a better term.
I lost four months of work in 2006, and it hurt financially.
I had to stop working again in October of '07, and I have not worked since then. I will be unable to work for several more months, maybe a year or two.
That is depressing.
You are going through something similar. You are trying to care for these ladies to supplement your income, but it is more than you can handle every day and is keeping you run down, stressed out, and feeling ill.
That is depressing.
You need to slow down, whether you can afford it or not.
You need anti-depressants to regulate the chemicals in your brain.
You need to get your TSH down closer to 1.0, also. Hopefully your doctor will increase your med dosage a little and get your hormones in balance. You're not at the correct level yet.
Until that happens, and you have several months to heal, you need anti-depressants. It's not a sin to need medicine. Take what the doctor offers you and realize such medicines exist because the Lord allows it.
I think you and I are both standing in front of the Lord asking for help, but we do not see the outstreched hand he is offering us. Our needs are different, but his hand is there. We need to see it, and grasp it.
Does that make sense?
Scarlet I think that it is more than just mourning the changes, I have hashimoto , celiac and other food allergies that I am adjusting too and grateful for it. Everything was going good and then wham the anxiety and depression hit and at first it wasn't too bad but it has been getting worse and now the natural stuff isn't working for me. I am praising God and receiving what I can from him and putting my mind on other things but it keeps on creeping back to the depressive feelings and thoughts of not wanting to live that this is too hard. I have a wonderful loveing Christian husband, 2 children, 7 beautiful grandchildren. Everything anyone could want. Jesus promised me many years ago he had a work for my husband (recently saved 5 years ago) and I to do. He promised me Is. 41. 11,12 and I am going to fight my way clinging to him until I receive the promises that he has promised me. I know he is real and his promises are too. His timing is not my timing. I just don't know how he will bring me out of this any more than I knew how he would save my husband but he did and that brings me hope. Thanks for you answering me. linda
Depression can come with many disorders. I think the depression comes in knowing this will be a whole life changing thing, and we sort of mourn knowing this. Once we adapt to how this affects us we CAN overcome the looming sadness.Every change takes time.
God is giving you a change in your life, it may not be the change you want or need- it's his plan for you. Take each day as it comes and thank god you are here able to post. What a great place to be too.
Hang in there- Adapt-Overcome -and practice gratiutude along the way :))
God is giving you a change in your life, it may not be the change you want or need- it's his plan for you. Take each day as it comes and thank god you are here able to post. What a great place to be too.
Hang in there- Adapt-Overcome -and practice gratiutude along the way :))
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