hypo vs hyper definitive symptoms

[Brucergoldberg]

Hello,

I was curious if anyone knew if there were some definitive signs that a person is either hyper or hypo.  I am in between labs and I really cant tell where i am.  On my last tests, I was a little hypo.  I went from 125 mcg to 131 of t4  ( i take 1/2  125  and 1/2 137 every day).  I am still really fatigued and have some whackyness going on.  But i cant tell if im hypo or hyper.  I want to make it to 6 or 7 weeks before i test.  Right now im right at 4 weeks of the tiny increase.

So since each is so closely related in symptoms, how can i tell which is which ?  or can I?   labs only?

[Brucergoldberg]

thank you.    SO an update for you -  I decided to stray from the pack for two days and take my medication during the day.  BIIIIG mistake.  I am definitely a night time hormone taker.   I felt like i could barely keep my eyes open at night on that stuff.   SO looks like ill be taking synthroid at night for the rest of my life.   Im ALMOST there.  I feel like if i could just take this one step further, i would be out of the water.   I make it til about 5 pm and then the ears start ringing etc.   blood test is tuesday.  cant freakin wait.  I hope i need one more slight increase..  

[Barb135]

A missing gall bladder should not give you diarrhea; however, your diet may, especially, if you eat a lot of high fiber foods, like veggies, etc.

Working out daily doesn't guarantee the absence of muscle aches/pains.  I worked out daily for months and still had them.

If you are taking a T4 only medication, it really doesn't matter whether or not you take your med before you have a blood draw or not, because the T4 in your blood will not reflect what you took that morning, it will reflect what you took a couple of weeks ago.  

Because T3 med is fast acting and in/out of your system in a few hours, it should not be taken before a blood draw, because it will give false high results.

[Brucergoldberg]

i think this is me, but i do have diareah, but that could be from the missing gallbladder:
Fatigue
    Increased sensitivity to cold
    Constipation
    Dry skin
    Unexplained weight gain
    Puffy face
    Hoarseness
    Muscle weakness
    Elevated blood cholesterol level
    Thinning hair
    Slowed heart rate
    Depression
    Impaired memory

i dont have muscle aches either way, i work out daily.  I dont have menstrul problems obviously.  

I took my hormone this morning instead of last night.  I slept better last night, didnt get jolted out of bed at 4 am.   so today i am on hormone as of 9 am.   I can feel the hormone creeping in.   Ears starting to ring and fatigue.

****  also,   now that im taking hormone during the day, i have a test coming up in 2 weeks.  I dont understand the theory of testing before medication.  if i am on thyroid hormone most of my waking hour, dont i want to know my level ON hormone?  why would i test before taking my hormone?  that doesnt make sense to me.  I want to know my levels ON hormone *****???

[Barb135]

From Mayo Clinic, the following are prevalent symptoms of hypo:  

    Fatigue
    Increased sensitivity to cold
    Constipation
    Dry skin
    Unexplained weight gain
    Puffy face
    Hoarseness
    Muscle weakness
    Elevated blood cholesterol level
    Muscle aches, tenderness and stiffness
    Pain, stiffness or swelling in your joints
    Heavier than normal or irregular menstrual periods
    Thinning hair
    Slowed heart rate
    Depression
    Impaired memory

Also from Mayo Clinic, the following are prevalent symptoms of hyper:

    Sudden weight loss, even when your appetite and the amount and type of food you eat remain the same or even increase
    Rapid heartbeat (tachycardia) — commonly more than 100 beats a minute — irregular heartbeat (arrhythmia) or pounding of your heart (palpitations)
    Increased appetite
    Nervousness, anxiety and irritability
    Tremor — usually a fine trembling in your hands and fingers
    Sweating
    Changes in menstrual patterns
    Increased sensitivity to heat
    Changes in bowel patterns, especially more frequent bowel movements
    An enlarged thyroid gland (goiter), which may appear as a swelling at the base of your neck
    Fatigue, muscle weakness
    Difficulty sleeping
    Skin thinning
    Fine, brittle hair

Note that the constipation is mostly hypo, while frequent looser stools is typically, hyper..  Weight gain, is mostly hypo, while weight loss is typically, hyper.  Slower heart rate (bradycardia) is, typically, hypo, while fast heart rate (tachycardia) is, typically, hyper. Increased sensitivity to cold is, typically, hypo, while sweating more, is "often" hyper, but I had both, cold and sweating, when hypo.

They list "enlarged thyroid (goiter), as hyper, but as we know, that's also hypo.

It can be confusing, trying to figure it out.  

I can't help wonder if your fatigue could related to something else, because no matter what your thyroid levels have done, that hasn't gone away.