interesting info on teeth

[DLA]

Went looking for something about my teeth, this is the third one that has done this, and did not find anything about thyroid disorders and what is called "dental caries" or rampant tooth decay.  Did however learn that one of the causes of this is radiation to the head or neck.  Hmmmmm.....  How many of us have had something like that you think?  Gee, great.

Here's the web site if interested, but be warned it has pictures!  :-(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_caries#Other_risk_factors

Read at your own risk!
Dac

[KB1205]

I agree with the theory that dental work isn't a cause of thyroid disorders, it may aggravate the condition but as a sufferer I tend to believe that the mass chemicals we add to our body through food etc. is most probably the cause... and then we procreate ... and it is passed on.
Anyway about the whole tooth decay issue - I am a genetic product of bad thyroid genes, although doctors have been late in diagnosing I have experienced many problems and one would be my teeth. The dentist kept on telling me no boiled sweets, no coldrinks etc brush morning and evening for at least 3 minutes and magically I would have better teeth. I only have two molars and two wisdom teeth in the back left. Can the body attack the teeth or is it caused by the acidity (often get blisters in the mouth as well as joint stiffness from the acidity of my body? The teeth that had the most amalgam in have had to be surgically removed because they just completely crack around the filling until all that is left is the filling.

[hope4thegoodstuff]

Maybe we should just have them all yanked and get falsies.  I have thought about that.  I never had any cavities until my daughter was born.  After that they'd just grind up and powder away.  It was awful to wake up with a mouth full of ground up tooth.  Now, having had thyroid problems with the rai, I'm just waiting for it to begin again.  HOW RUDE.

[Tempitis]

The danger of tooth decay is heightened by dry mouth caused by many prescription meds.  The person who wrote about the pH of saliva is probably right on target.

I've just come from the dentist.  My tooth decay is worse today than it was two weeks ago.  My dentist says this could be - among other things - the residual effects of one month of beta blockers to slow my heart during a bout of thyroiditis.  One month of a low dose of meds five months ago!  The effects can be immediate and long lasting.

My advice to anyone with thyroid trouble resulting in dry mouth is to go to the dentist!  I'm not sure about the toxicity of various filling materials, but tooth decay is a general health risk.  Our teeth are mighty close to our thyroid glands!

[pewe]

Thank you for posting information about people you know that suffered similar problems as others without amalgam fillings. Ive read sites where some suggest that root canals are the culprit as well. I just believe that one has to work with what we have. I do believe that tuna consumption probably gives us more mercury than what we have in out teeth. Perhaps some of us are more sensitive to these things than others but I refuse to believe that we should pull all our teeth out and have people drill out cavitations in our jaws. This would cause irreparable damage to our mouths and have a profound effect on nutrition.

[Christy1950]

I posted the same thing about 4 months ago because I had just had some dental work done with xrays to the jaw and then a full mouth xray and on top of that had an amalgam filling taken out and redone with the new stuff. Two things worried me about all this was that my dentist didn't use a neck cover just chest and abdomen cover. And didn't use any special precautions whilst removing this huge amalgam filling. I had my 6 monthly check for thyroid and it had dropped dramatically but then after next 6 months it was back up again so I am sure that one or both of these things effect my thyroid.

[Liz94]

I not only made it to adulthood with no cavities but I've never had tarter on my teeth either.  I went 15 years without going to the dentist and  when I went it took him 5 minutes to clean my teeth. He said it had something to do with the PH of my saliva. Of course, now I'm all jacked up. My tongue burns, my teeth hurt all the time and I have canker sores.  Life stinks! I'd rather have a cavity.

[nissah46]

Sometimes I feel like we are doomed.  I got a new dentist about 6 years ago, when mine retired.  He started replacing fillings with the white ones.  I have 2 permanant crowns with gold posts since 1979.  A few years ago I was complaining about a metalic taste in my mouth. Neither my dentist or GP had any ideas as to what it may be. Then 2 years ago I'm diagnosed with thyroid cancer, and my endo said it had been growing for a while.  Did the dentist stir up a hornets nest by taking out the original fillings?
Trish

[Thypatient]

bobh1 - Be careful what you read and listen to.  There are many sides to this issue.  

BTW - The parathyoids are four small glands outside (para means outside) the thyroid.  They do not control the thyroid and other than location have nothing to do with it.  Their job is to control the regulation of calcium between the bones and blood.



Liz94 - Be careful of those tests, as they can be inconclusive and leave a lot of guessing.

Gee, how did you get to adulthood without any fillings?

[Liz94]

Well, not to poop the party or anything but I've never had a filling of any kind in my teeth and I have thyroid cancer. Is there a blood test they can do to check your mercury levels?  I know there's a health food store near my house that will do a hair analysis for you and tell you everything in your system that doesn't need to be there. But, it takes a while to get the results and it's expensive.

[bobh1]

Silver amalgams are 50 - 65% mercury. The mercury over time expands, cracking the tooth. Then you need a crown. Crowns are metal or have metal in them. The cement insulates the two metals. Usually within five years the cement has leached out and decay has set in. The decay makes an electrical connection between the two dis-similar metals creating a battery. The current flowing through the mercury, causes it to out gas eighty times greater. In my case, the mercury has created a low parathyroid condition. The parathyroid controls the thyroid.

Gold crowns are not made of gold. They are made of palladium, and is not a good material to put in your body. For more information go to healthline.cc, there is some information there, check for the time and radio frequency to listen to Dr. Marshall's radio program, or get the phone number to call in.

[turtlekeeper]

Being the resident dentist (oops don't know if I should have admitted that :), it is interesting to see what everyone is writing here.  I've never had any amalgams in my mouth and here I am.  My parents both have autoimmune conditions (rheumatoid arthritis and BMMP (pemphigoid)) and I have also had another immune condition prior to Graves called ITP.  They have not had amalgam fillings either.  If anyone is looking for the best materials to use in the mouth, I would suggest porcelain and gold.  Gold is very well known for being very compatible in the body.  Dental restorations done nicely in gold are gorgeous.  In more esthetic areas, porcelain is quite inert.

Having said all this, I really doubt that dental work has any effect on all of us developing the various problems with the thyroid.  Amalgam fillings do contain mercury but if the mercury all came out, you'd have disappearing fillings and those things last a long time in people's mouths!  It is just another chemical that we unfortunately end up adding to our bodies.  There is a ton of mercury in tunafish and some other related food products.  As well, the toxins floating around in our breathing air these days is horrifying.  My theory is all the debris/toxins in the air over time from all the various forms of manufacturing (plastics, etc.) is what is poisoning our bodies more and more as the years go by.

Anyways, just my two cents :)  And, no, I wouldn't mind if they discovered a vaccine for cavities.  I'd love to have a perfect excuse to stay home with my daughter :)

[DLA]

Yeah, been wondering that myself.  Need to go have crown put on and 2 wrotten teeth taken care of ASAP but now am kinda freakin' about it. =(   Maybe that was the heavy metal in my detox foot bath.  LOL

Dac

[msfergy]

So you think our dental work could be are problems and not the thyroid, ok scary thought here because i did have some dental work done sometime prior to my problems, i still have the temporary crown because i havent been back to get the main one since i been ill. Hmmmm so should we be getting our mercury checked now,lol o boy. OOOOPs I did have a heavy metals test done and it says mercury was a 2 ug/l, whatever that result means.

[DLA]

Boy, that was pretty freaky, huh?  Now I know why mouths freak me out so bad!  BLUCK!

Does GL have knowledge on everything or just know where to find it all?  Sometimes I think she has to be 107 to have gained all this knowledge.  But she still looks sexy in the bikini!  LOL  ;+)

Heard a little bit about them finding there is something in dark chocolate that helps prevent cavities.  Okay, wipe the drool off your chins, it doesn't work very well no matter how much of it you eat!  ;)  Said they have to extract it to make something out of it to use.  Dang, huh?  Know what.........?  I don't even like chocolate.  Weird, ain't I?s

Dac

[ChitChatNine]

I did have two mercury fillings pulled and white bondings put in and guess what .. that was the decline of my teeth and ended up with 3 root canals right next to one another .....ahhh .. if it ain't broke don't fix it .. that is what I am doing with the rest of my metal ones LOL ....they can remain as loose as the want but if not causing decay or any problem mine are remaining in from this point fwd.  :0

C~

[ChitChatNine]

be careful on reading the mercury websites .. there are many not well documented .. at least that is what I encountered many yrs ago as I searched the web for mercury and my daughters reative arthritis issues.

C~

[ChitChatNine]

My daughter who is severe nickle allergy only gets the white bonding fillings .. dentist said no way is he taking any chances with a known severe nickle dermatitis (not outgrown and she is now 14) and history of reactive arthritis.  For all we know, perhaps all her immune issues settled down once her baby teeth with these metal fillings fell out ... we'll never know ... she was born with low IgG's so that is the clinical reason for her immunity issues, but one cannot help but wonder if the metal coupled with the known medical issue was a double whammy.

C~

[Venora Moonwind]

Great now I cant  eat or brushmy teeth or wash my hair there are going to be some skanky people out there thrying not to get ccancer,
I did think that was interesting about the radiation and your teeth as I have lost 2 teeth since my RaI in mar. makes you go hmmmmm.
Love Venora

[kipland]

I prefer Splenda as well, but not in my pop - although, it's probably just something that you get used to.  I wasn't really thinking about the relationship of artificial sweetener and thyroid problems, but with cancer in general.  I don't know.  I guess if I lived in fear of everything I put in my body, I'd need some serious meds to calm me down!!!

[kitcurious]

My paternal grandmother and maternal Aunt both died young of thyroid complications long before aspertame had been invented and neither had dental fillings.

50% of people over 60 years of age have a thyroid nodule. Looks like the gland frequently starts to  wear out over time.

We're very lucky to be alive here and now. I wouldn't worry about it.

I prefer Splenda ;-)

[kipland]

I'm thinkin' if you've made it to 107, you're doing pretty darned good without them.  ;-)

You know, I've often wondered about the aspartame.  I've always struggled with my weight and switched to diet pop and yogurt at least 20 years ago.  I eat a yogurt every day, and was a popaholic for quite some time - always diet.  I personally think natural is best, but I always opted for the least calories.  Maybe not such a great idea?  I don't know.

Again, thank you for the great insite!

Lori

[GravesLady]

google - metals  effects on thyroid and vaccine fillers

Death By Vaccination -
(some/most) vaccine  contain heavy metal preservatives, which include murcery and has the same effect as in mercury amalgam fillings.  

Avoid aluminum, aspartame, silver fillings, canola oil, fluoride (as much as possible), vaccinations, genetically engineered (GE) produce and meat from animals that ate GE produce.

Shampoos Contain Toxins Linked To Nerve Damage NewsTarget.com 3-11-5 - contact with this ingredient called methylisothiazoline, or MIT, causes neurological damage. Head and Shoulders, Suave, Clairol and Pantene Hair Conditioner all contain this ingredient.

(some) Contact Lenses Solution contain Thimersol is in it. Thimersol is a cancerous substance and has been linked to Heavy Metal Poisoning and has similar affects that aspartame has.

Google nogw.com/health.html

I haven't been vaccinated since childhood with the exception of tetanus, then, when only necessary and at the moment.  

Being 107 maybe I should be. ;)

[GravesLady]

Here is something else that is interesting, although not directly to teeth going bad, but interesting and a little scary.  

Google  "mercury amalgam fillings"

Here is a little info:

The thyroid gland one of the first targets for toxins in the body.
Hypothyroidism, The Silent Disease of Toxicity.

Surface particles of elemental mercury from amalgams are acted upon by oral and intestinal bacteria to produce methyl mercury, an even more toxic form of mercury that targets the pituitary gland, thyroid gland, and the brain. Mercury rapidly absorbs across the blood-brain barrier and interferes with the transmission of nerve impulses to the rest of the body, causing tremors, shaking, tingling and numbness. Related effects on the nervous system are poor memory, inability to focus, anxiety, depression, irritability, nervousness, insomnia, dizziness, and muscle spasms.

Other symptoms related to mercury poisoning are allergies, bloating, high or low blood pressure, elevated cholesterol, fatigue, muscle weakness, back pain, colitis, headaches, ringing in the ears, metallic taste in the mouth or smell on the skin, skin disorders, canker sores, and problems with the heart, thyroid, reproductive system, urinary tract and vision. Autoimmune disorders such as Lupus and Fibromyalgia as well as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome have all been linked to mercury poisoning from dental fillings.

Mercury has an adverse effect on the immune system, inhibiting the body’s ability to fight infection.

Amalgams are a combination of different metals, they act like a battery inside the electrolyte and acid solution of the oral cavity, causing corrosion of the metals and creating electrical charges that negatively affect the brain and nervous system.

This principle also holds true for gold fillings and crowns which are actually composites of several metals because gold alone would be too soft. Even porcelain dental material contains aluminum oxide and other metals.

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Most people think their symptoms are thyroid when it could be "mercury amalgam fillings.

Makes ya want to pull all your teeth out, well at least the filled ones. For me, that's most of them ;)

[ChitChatNine]

I bet sealants are the first phase ......... I wonder if they really will develop a vaccine as too many dentists would be out of business ::::ewww, did I say that?::::::: I wondered about them losing business with the sealants on perm. molars for the kids as they do reduce the cavities.

2 of my 4 kids have awful cavities (like me) and the other 2 are fine .. they say genetics play a big part and this must be so as we all live in the same home, drink the same water, take the same vitamins w/fluourde (when we are good about it) and eat the same food with the same habits .. so I have wondered why some more than others get decay ..... but, the 2 offenders also have bad crowding so that is a factor I am certain.   Of the 2 only one is presently still high cavities as she is only 9 .. the other is 14 and very normal cavity rate finally and almost out of her braces!

C~