Fat loss and toxin release, is there a correlation?

[hm05]

I have read that many toxins are stored in the fat cells in the body, and when one loses weight, or burns fat so to speak, these toxins are released.  If this is true, then where exactly are these toxins going?  Through which organ are these toxins filtered if at all?  I am assumming it would be through the liver.  I know that many specific toxins like THC, are stored in the fat cell, and when one loses weight, this can be released in to the blood stream.  Is this true? I have heard of people becoming very ill, even more ill than if they did not lose weight, when these toxins are overloaded in the system. What other toxins that we are exposed to, are we releasing when we start burning fat? I am wondering if there is a correlation between significant weight loss, (not by Gastric bypass), toxin release, and the development of disease.  We are always told how unhealthy it is to be obese, but rarely hear about people getting very sick, after a significant weight loss.  Is it possible, that this "shock" to a system, could spark off an underlying problem? I just know that personally, when I have lost a good amount of weight, I sometimes feel terrible, worse than before, and wonder if this is some type of toxin overload into the system. Could someone tackle this question please, Thank you.

[WeightLossTraveler]

You probably know that while we (me too) were/are smoking weed, that we may have accumulated fat, a storage site of THC. Lose weight, get high! The lighter side of weight loss surgery.

[Barb135]

You've attached to a very old thread and none of the previous posters are active on the forum any longer.  You might try googling for the images you're looking for... google "chia seeds microscopic images"

[IndigoCrow37313737]

Also from a microscopic perspective chia seeds have tons of tiny holes in them so the toxins get pulled in through that gelatinous film & trapped in those holes, then expelled from body. I'm trying to find some good microscopic images of chia seeds.

[wingman79]

Anybody who does a detox is a complete idiot. If you are in search of better health you need to do the work you know you should be doing. Stop lying to yourself and others.
Here is a foolproof plan for better health guaranteed:

1) Eat right (you know how, just do it)
2) Exercise regulary
3) See an actual Medical Doctor once in a while and not a Chiroprator
4) Stop spending money on quick fixes

Do this for 3 months

Presto like magic, your healthier!!!

Your welcome

[ImprovingMyHealth]

I've had serious health problems with weight gain over the previous 5 years. My doctor discovered my hormone levels were all critically low. I've been on bioidentical hormones for six months and what a difference it's made in my quality of life. I'm taking Estrogen, Testosterone, Progesterone (morning and bedtime), DHEA, a thyroid booster and a special Vitamin D (50,000 IU). I never dreamed I would ever feel good again, but I do. I didn't see any appreciable weight loss, but I feel great when I wake up in the mornings and can handle stressful situations again like a pro.

I'm now focused on detoxing my body. After taking an herb from India called Manjishtha (blood purifier) for six weeks, the results are nothing short of remarkable. I'm feeling better than have in 10 years, and my dark purple circles under my eyes are completely gone. I've lost an incredible 15 pounds (most likely fluid, as I suffer from severe edema). My cravings are gone, and when I feel satisfied when I eat.

I've been doing manual lymph drainage massage for my lipedema; I use a special handheld massager with a cellulite attachment, and have lost several inches in my thighs. I'm doing it every other day, so there has been a tremendous commitment in time to pursue better health. After much research, I will start on a regime of brown seaweed which is said to detox the digestive tract and remove the bad heavy metals we accumulate in our lifetime. The brand I'm using was effective at removing radiation poisoning from cancer patients. Of course, there are plenty of healthy benefits from the seaweed also. I'm excited to see how adding this regime will improve my health further.

Perhaps some people don't believe in the detox approach to aid in good health. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. For me results speak for themselves... I will continue to find ways to improve my health based on personal experience rather than cynicism.

Wishing all those pursuing better health tremendous success!!!

[ImprovingMyHealth]

I've had serious health problems with weight gain over the previous 5 years. My doctor discovered my hormone levels were all critically low. I've been on bioidentical hormones for six months and what a difference it's made in my quality of life. I'm taking Estrogen, Testosterone, Progesterone (morning and bedtime), DHEA, a thyroid booster and a special Vitamin D (50,000 IU). I never dreamed I would ever feel good again, but I do. I didn't see any appreciable weight loss, but I feel great when I wake up in the mornings and can handle stressful situations again like a pro.

I'm now focused on detoxing my body. After taking an herb from India called Manjishtha (blood purifier) for six weeks, the results are nothing short of remarkable. I'm feeling better than have in 10 years, and my dark purple circles under my eyes are completely gone. I've lost an incredible 15 pounds (most likely fluid, as I suffer from severe edema). My cravings are gone, and when I feel satisfied when I eat.

I've been doing manual lymph drainage massage for my lipedema; I use a special handheld massager with a cellulite attachment, and have lost several inches in my thighs. I'm doing it every other day, so there has been a tremendous commitment in time to pursue better health. After much research, I will start on a regime of brown seaweed which is said to detox the digestive tract and remove the bad heavy metals we accumulate in our lifetime. The brand I'm using was effective at removing radiation poisoning from cancer patients. Of course, there are plenty of healthy benefits from the seaweed also. I'm excited to see how adding this regime will improve my health further.

Perhaps some people don't believe in the detox approach to aid in good health. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. For me results speak for themselves... I will continue to find ways to improve my health based on personal experience rather than cynicism.

Wishing all those pursuing better health tremendous success!!!

[rh7]

Dear all,

This article is from the National Health Service in the UK (they have no agenda other than to keep people healthy).

Please read part "4" on detox diets and the last 2 paragraphs about how to live healthily and lose weight.

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/loseweight/Pages/how-to-diet.aspx

The other thing than really helps if you want to lose weight or eat healthily is to find a "buddy" who will go through the process with you to help motivate you when you feel like giving up (this is much easier now with the internet (blog sites / social networking etc.

All the best,

Rob

[Aliciancody]

Toxins from everything, drinks, foods, medicines, cosmetics (lotions perfumes, makeup) are all stored between fat cells.  Picture a glass of ice.  Add juice.  The ice is your fat cells, ll combine together but add juice and the float around. This is where cellulite, jiggle, and other prob areas come from....these toxins can also cause things like rashes, blemishes, stretch marks, irritated pores...etc. Losing weight can release these toxins nd make some people sick.  there are a few ways to detox to get these toxins out
Easily and without getting sick.  It makes u healthier on top of trimming and toning you, slimming you down. I'm a professional who helps people with weight loss and detoxing all naturally!  Email me anytime for more info ***@****

[patricia565]

Did you know that your brain makes its own chemical called anandamide that is nearly identical to THC?  That's why THC is not experienced by the body as a toxin. It's very close to something your own brain makes. THC does not harm any cells in your body. Socially and politically, it characterized as a toxin, but that has nothing to do with the physical reality.

However, if you are really deeply concerned about THC, then there is one chemical that is known to "detox" you from THC -- and from anandamide too. It's called Rimonabant. Taking Rimonabant is known to completely remove the  marijuana high. It blocks the THC from your brain  and body completely.

Problem is, the side effects of Rimonabant include multiple sclerosis and suicidal depression. So maybe you're safer with the THC than you are would the drug that has been developed to counteract it.

[pojet123]

Hi, I'm trying to figure out why I am having terrible rashes surrounding my thighs. Just googling and found this discussion. It seems that my recently activity going to gym to loose weight might have something to do with these rashes. But, still not sure. Could anyone confirm that exercises and sweating can actually trigger toxin released through skin and initiate rashes?

[DeeDee35]

Hi Blondo,

Yes I have a rash as I continue to lose weight, sweat, exercise immensely after being very heavy for 2 years I am melting it off. The past 2 months have
been difficult it seems I break out after a heavy work out, I eat much healthier
and drink alot of detox natural foods. I believe this has brought some chemical from my fat loss my skin and body is reacting too but I am not sure.
What are your symptoms?

[DeeDee35]

Hi ZCA,

I am wondering if I am having the same symptoms of this from FAT loss.
Extreme weight loss in the past 2 years but recently started getting a painful
itching rash all over my body. what were your symptoms? Can you share?

Thanks DEE

[teatee222]

Chia seeds attach to toxins and take them out of the body.  If you soak the chia seeds in water they go all gelatinous and slimy, this slimy effect takes the toxins out of the body.  You can add the Chia seeds to smoothies or juices.
Aloe Vera also works very well as it too is slimy and works well at releasing toxins also.  Toxins are fat loving not water loving - that's why the gelatinous, slimy stuff get them out of the body.
Hope this helps.

[MarcoDiaz]

alot of that "toxin" stuff is bs.

[Blondo57]

I am an active 57-year-old who couldn't lose weight even though we eat very health and I exercise.  I decided to try a detox process which has included colon, parasite, liver, lymph and kidney cleanse.  I'm losing weight, but not without consequences.  Very shortly my neck, along wrinkle lines and around the tear duct of one of my eyes, broke out in something that looks like psoriasis.  If I stop cleansing it gets somewhat better.  I'm guessing something is coming through my skin at night with sweats that is causing this issue.  Has anyone else had a similar problem?  If so, what did you do about it?

[constantissues]

thanks for all the great info...I've recently gone of anti depressants after 10 yrs. Med's caused slow/no metabolism in turn causing weight gain of 30lbs. Happy to say metab has kicked back in. Have been doing alot of cardio and now having break outs and itching. Felt it must be from the release of toxins...what do you think?

[ZCA]

Hello HM05,

Sorry, it has taken so long to respond to this post.  My condition and the recession has taken a toll on me and prevented me from following up on this post for nearly a year and a half.

Since my original post and the presentation of my theory on the release of toxins during a period where adipose tissue is tap for energy stores, I have finally obtained significant results of investigation.

In December of 2008, I manage to locate a physician with laboratory resources that could test fat biopsies for the a specific toxin along with a few other common ones.  Several areas were selected based on the characteristics of adipose tissue.  Also, blood was drawn within an hour after a significant onset of an episode.  Blood was drawn specifically after aggressive physical fitness activity and under very specific symptom criteria.  Otherwise, the blood would not be drawn.

To the surprise of most professionals, the toxins found were not the one to which I was exposed.  The laboratory did identify the presents of two highly unusual toxins in both fat biopsies from taken from the two different areas of the body with nearly the same quantities present

The blood did test positive for one of the two unusual toxins, which happen to be the one with the highest concentration in the adipose tissue.  That toxin happens to completely lack an explanation as to how it entered the body and accumulated in the fat tissue.  The source of both toxins has yet to be determined by additional product testing and a very, very good toxicologist.  It is known that the human body can metabolize one toxin into another toxin or several other toxins before leaving the body.  Additional testing is planned to determine the trend of decrease in the quantities in the tissue over time.

So, there you have it, HM05.  After tremendous persistence and $1,000, there is your proof that toxins are released into the blood stream from where they accumulate in fat tissue around the body.  Even after 4 years has past since the exposure was discovered and stopped.  It is amazing what you can discover through true scientific method and good testing equipment.  Real science, real results, real facts.

ZCA

[KailaJane]

The questions above are for any general public who has some insight or information on the topic.

[KailaJane]

You seem to be very knowledgable about the body's detox process. If a heavy marijuana user is trying to detox, will working out or exercising cause an increase of THC in the body and urine? Can the toxins that the fat cells release be detected directly through urine tests or would a hair test or blood test have to be performed?

[hotrodgirl]

Have you ever tried a total body cleansing system with the side benefits of weight loss?  I've just started using a system and so far so good.  I really like it.  I'm on the 30 day program, so I cleanse one day a week - this is my first week.  I feel sooo much better after the cleanse.

There is a website in my profile...look at it if you want to - watch the videos too.  I'll let you know how I do on the program - just give me a few more weeks.  I just started last Thursday but I've lost 5 lbs already.  The day after my cleanse day...I feel sooo good.

I do have a few health issues that I was worried about - I take meds for IC and Hypthyroidism.  So, I wasn't sure about taking vitamins/supplements/minerals, etc.  However, I have to admit, I now feel better, have more energy, am finally sleeping better at night and my hot flashes (I had a partial hyster back in Sept) are less often and not as intense!  So, for me, the cleansing system is a wonderful gift!

[eltigre]

I saw this thread and it caught my attention.  I've gone through a "de-toxing" stage when losing weight.  I thought I was crazy, but whenever I'd have a good inch loss or even weight loss (scale wise) there would be times when I could have sworn I could smell Morphine, goofy gas, or Demerol.. all which I had during several surgeries in my life.  I asked around and others experienced the same thing.  I guess (I'm no expert) than when the toxins are initially released into the body, then go to protected places such as fat pockets.  When that pocket is disrupted by weightloss and water intake, the toxins are released into the body... BUT if your water intake is good and your colon functions properly... they move on out within 24 hours.  I've had it happen and the "high" you asked about isn't anywhere near the same as the initial drug reaction from the surgeries (I never was an illegal drug user... hate the stuff).
I make sure my colon functions properly by taking extra Magnesium each day, which was recommended by my colon doctor.
Just thought I'd chime in.

[Maya1981]

I am not having a proper bowel movement for which I feel uneasy for the whole day. I dont get the pressure in the morning. If at all I get, its very scanty and semisolid. Its also very sticky. Please advise on this as I feel you have a better suggestion for this.
Is there any chance that if I dont pass my stool regularly I'll gain weight???

[ZCA]

Sorry, HM05.  I thought I was replying to MedHelp.  My reply directly addresses and answers your question.  Sorry, it took over three years to reply.  At the time of your post, I had not yet discovered the poisoning responsible for my multi-system symptoms.

CAZ

[ZCA]

ABSOLUTELY, like you can't even imagine if you were poisoned like me.

I can validate the truth of this subject, because I have a very closely documented experience of acute toxin exposure from an organic solvent (lipophilic) stored in my body fat throughout my whole body.

A specialist said the only way to get it out of the body was to metabolize it along with the fat.  However, that can be a very dangerous treatment and I can confirm that.  The only way I could proceed with that approach was that I was and am in very excellent health prior to the exposure.  He also said there is no chelating agent that can retrieve it from the fat cells.  But, keep in mind a healthy diet with a lot of fiber will help bind the metabolites release into the GI tract with your bile from your liver.

During the process, patterns of symptoms were identified and correlated with medical issues/symptoms prior to the recent poisoning.  My nearly 1000 page symptom log validates this.  It was discovered from these patterns there are even toxins created from the break down of Aspartame stored in the body fat, as well.  I highly suspect this is what is the cause of symptoms associated with Fibromyalgia.

Aerobic fitness activity would guarantee a release of the toxin into the blood stream in what I call an episode.  They can very from occurrence to occurrence based on the area of fat tissue from which they are released.  Reduced caloric intake will also create an episode as the body taps into fat stores for energy.  Unfortunately, medicine and the medical profession is not advanced enough to realize this as nearly all of them have been educated to see only the tip of the iceberg or ignore it.

I have come to realize this by consulting with my father (a physician) and many other doctors.  In some cases there has been a lack of cooperation in all areas of medicine.  What I experienced is fact as I have over a thousand episodes duplicating the results just as many times.  Duplicated results are a definition of fact.  I have spent over 3 years aggressively burning the toxin out of my body and still defining the behavior of this toxin as I head down into the lower percentages of body fat.

But, my view of medicine's approach to this is my perspective.  I am a big cynical, only because I have been left to suffer and recover on my own.

CAZ